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pkmin3033 June 8th, 2017 10:36 AM

Forme Changes
 
So, Sun and Moon gave us two Lycanroc, two Wishiwashi, four Oricorio, and brought over Zygarde 10% and Complete formes...and a rainbow of Minior cores, if you want to count those. Already we have rumours of a third Lycanroc, and of course the mascot Legendaries of USUM appear to be some kind of forme or mode change or fusion with Necrozma so, clearly, GF are not done with tinkering with the 7th gen quite yet.

Excluding Alolan form Pokemon - obviously - would you like to see any 7th Generation Pokemon in Sun and Moon receive new form(e)s? How would they differ from their counterparts? Do we even NEED additional formes to the small lineup of the 7th gen on top of what we already have?

L'Belle June 8th, 2017 10:56 AM

I would like a male Salandit evolution, but probably not going to happen.

Hikamaru June 8th, 2017 11:28 AM

I can't see Lycanroc getting a new form since the forms it already has fit with the theme of the games, and shows off a great concept. I could see Marshadow maybe getting a new form if mythicals are taken into account.

jombii June 8th, 2017 2:15 PM

Yeah, I agree with Marshadow. I want to have that Lycanroc form and the male Salandit but I don't think it will happen in USUM.

Marshadow, on the other hand, feels so incomplete as a mythical pokemon, imo.

pkmin3033 June 8th, 2017 9:17 PM

I'd actually like another Oricorio if we have a new island...in fact, I would expect there to be one if we do, even.

Also, where is white Minior. Shiny Minior is black, and we have all the colours of the rainbow...but no white. This actually makes me a little sad.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 8th, 2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9672572)
I can't see Lycanroc getting a new form since the forms it already has fit with the theme of the games, and shows off a great concept. I could see Marshadow maybe getting a new form if mythicals are taken into account.

I agree. The most I could see them do is changing how it works and make it so that one can get both forms in the same game depending on time of day instead of having them be version exclusive.

Though... what if the Lyranrocs we have now get new forms? Like Ultra Midday Lycanroc xD. They do seem to get the solar/lunar energy from the mascots it seems (at least that's the only way one can explain them being version exclusive), so maybe the ultra forms of the mascots will allow them to have some of their own.

Hikamaru June 11th, 2017 8:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9673115)
Though... what if the Lyranrocs we have now get new forms? Like Ultra Midday Lycanroc xD. They do seem to get the solar/lunar energy from the mascots it seems (at least that's the only way one can explain them being version exclusive), so maybe the ultra forms of the mascots will allow them to have some of their own.

I'm sure the Lycanroc we saw in the announcement trailer was just a standard Midday Form Lycanroc. Also, remember that the Lycanroc forms aren't interchangeable.

Rengoku June 12th, 2017 9:42 AM

Maybe we will have a Eclipse form Lycanroc, who knows. I would love that.

blue June 12th, 2017 10:34 AM

I'm pretty sure we'll get new forms for Lycanroc and Mimikyu at the very least.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2017 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9676204)
I'm sure the Lycanroc we saw in the announcement trailer was just a standard Midday Form Lycanroc. Also, remember that the Lycanroc forms aren't interchangeable.

I didn't say anything about either of those things :/. Just speculating about their current forms being given ultra forms. I actually saw some youtubers with the same idea a few days ago xD.

LilyGardy June 12th, 2017 2:22 PM

I have a Shiny Midday Lycanroc so the Pokemon getting a new forme would be welcome.

Realistically though it will be just Legendaries getting new formes.

smocks June 22nd, 2017 11:25 PM

I don't think USUM will be introducing a TON of new forms due to the transferring of Pokémon between SM & USUM BUT new forms might be accessible in USUM from a new feature being introduced in USUM, we'll find out !

Alexander18 June 23rd, 2017 1:31 AM

I say ten at the most for new forms.

Hikamaru June 23rd, 2017 6:32 AM

Like Gardy said, my likely guess is just Solgaleo and Lunala being the only new forms of this game. But you know, I could be surprised if something unexpected gets revealed, like what happened with the Therian Formes of the Forces of Nature trio in B2/W2.

pkmin3033 June 23rd, 2017 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9686537)
Like Gardy said, my likely guess is just Solgaleo and Lunala being the only new forms of this game. But you know, I could be surprised if something unexpected gets revealed, like what happened with the Therian Formes of the Forces of Nature trio in B2/W2.

Which Pokemon do you think would be eligible for that kind of "Therian Forme" treatment, though? Honestly, with all of them being in kind of a shell - and as the only other Legendaries - I think the Island Guardians might have Awakened Formes or something for when the Ultra Beasts appear...that'd be nice, and it'd expand on their role in the games, too.

...I can't be the only one who was annoyed we didn't get to see Tapu Koko fight Pheromosa...

Hikamaru June 23rd, 2017 6:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9686559)
Which Pokemon do you think would be eligible for that kind of "Therian Forme" treatment, though? Honestly, with all of them being in kind of a shell - and as the only other Legendaries - I think the Island Guardians might have Awakened Formes or something for when the Ultra Beasts appear...that'd be nice, and it'd expand on their role in the games, too.

...I can't be the only one who was annoyed we didn't get to see Tapu Koko fight Pheromosa...

I'd probably say either the Tapus or Ultra Beasts, since I know Marshadow has a "form" where its body parts turn green but that doesn't count because that's only when it's doing stuff like its signature Z-Move.

There was also that original colouring of Magearna that resembled the regular Poke Ball colours, so maybe we could see that becoming available in US/UM via an event.

pkmin3033 June 23rd, 2017 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9686566)
I'd probably say either the Tapus or Ultra Beasts, since I know Marshadow has a "form" where its body parts turn green but that doesn't count because that's only when it's doing stuff like its signature Z-Move.

There was also that original colouring of Magearna that resembled the regular Poke Ball colours, so maybe we could see that becoming available in US/UM via an event.

I can't see the UBs getting alternate formes honestly; they don't strike me as being similar to Giratina where they would take on a different forme in their own dimension, and given their already wacky and varied designs giving them a redesign seems a bit counterproductive. It's possible - especially with USUM having that "Ultra" theme to it - but it doesn't seem likely, since they're generally not portrayed as being actual Pokemon as we understand them, so giving them formes - something other Pokemon have - would seem a bit strange.

Magearna isn't a new thing, though...although admittedly it WOULD make sense to have it in US/UM, since there is no way to change between its formes.

Alexander18 June 24th, 2017 9:04 AM

I think the day and night form were reserved as evolutions for Lycanroc
I don't see the starters getting them.

thedarkdragon11 August 5th, 2017 8:37 PM

Since a 3rd form is already confirmed for Lycanroc, given the form name I'm sure that there will also be a 4th form... Dawn Form Lycanroc, maybe?

I also think that Rotom will get another form and that Rotom Pokédex can be used in battle to level-up just to obtain the National Pokédex...

Sabrewulf238 August 6th, 2017 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by L'Belle (Post 9672547)
I would like a male Salandit evolution, but probably not going to happen.

I'd like to see this happen more than any forme change.

Something like that probably wouldn't happen until a new gen though.

LilyGardy August 6th, 2017 5:17 AM

Why would we get a Male Salandit evolution? Combee has no male evolution yet and was introduced all the way back in Gen 4.

I agree that a Dawn form for Lycanroc makes sense given the English name of the new orange form.

pixelani August 6th, 2017 7:11 AM

Based on the amount of placeholder data we noticed earlier on in the generation, I won't be surprised if there's NOT a Dawn form for Lycanroc. While it would make logical sense based on the name and the fact that we have a complex time system with multiple phases, it wouldn't be the first time Game Freak has seemingly left something out or failed to complete a circle of sorts. Just as an example, all the types that were originally special have an eeveelution - except Dragon.

However, based on that same placeholder data, I think it's pretty likely that we'll get a new Mimikyu form. But what could it be? It's lore establishes its immense jealousy of Pikachu being the basis for the disguise in the first place - so if it's based on another Pokémon, it has to be something really popular. Could it be its "true" form instead, with a different ability? Maybe even differently distributed stats?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 6th, 2017 7:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pixelani (Post 9724801)
Based on the amount of placeholder data we noticed earlier on in the generation, I won't be surprised if there's NOT a Dawn form for Lycanroc. While it would make logical sense based on the name and the fact that we have a complex time system with multiple phases, it wouldn't be the first time Game Freak has seemingly left something out or failed to complete a circle of sorts. Just as an example, all the types that were originally special have an eeveelution - except Dragon.

However, based on that same placeholder data, I think it's pretty likely that we'll get a new Mimikyu form. But what could it be? It's lore establishes its immense jealousy of Pikachu being the basis for the disguise in the first place - so if it's based on another Pokémon, it has to be something really popular. Could it be its "true" form instead, with a different ability? Maybe even differently distributed stats?

Most theories point to it being a true form if it does get one.

Seeing Lycanroc getting new forms gives me hope of more Oricorio forms (and new islands) :3.

pokestar1993 August 6th, 2017 7:28 AM

From what I am seeing, I don't think that there will be a Dawn Lycanroc, not only does the Japanese name translate to Twilight Lycanroc, the French, Italian and Spanish names call it Crepuscular Lycanroc and the German calls it Twilight Lycanroc. For some reason I think that the Dusk form might have been a mistranslation, but I do enjoy the Dusk Lycanroc. If I had to guess, two of its abilities would be Vital Spirit and Steadfast and that Keen Eye will be replaced either with an existing ability or a new ability in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. After all, they did add new abilities and moves in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.

Ida13 August 6th, 2017 10:11 AM

I would like to see more alolan forms, and a morning Lycanroc. It would be amazing if Houndour and Houndoom got alolan forms.


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