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5qwerty June 13th, 2017 5:03 PM

The Dual-Generation Tournament {Winner: Dragon}
 
The Dual-Generation Tournament
Tournament and Format
Welcome to The Dual-Generation Tournament! As the name suggests, participants must use Pokémon from two different generations of Pokémon to create a team of six. Like most other tournaments with minor modifications, the matches are to be played in the [Gen 7] OU Tier.

Now, there still remain some issues with the format that have to be cleared up:
  • The teams will consists of three Pokémon from one generation and three from a different generation.
  • Splitting two/four or one/five is not allowed.
  • You can switch up teams between games/matches.
  • You do not have to stick to the same two generations.
  • Alolan Forms count as Gen 7.
  • Mega Evolutions count as the generation the base Pokémon was introduced in.
  • Ash-Greninja's base form is Greninja, so it counts as Gen 6.
  • As a general rule, Alternate Formes belong to the generation they were introduced in.
  • For example, Zygarde-50% counts as Gen 6, but Zygarde-10% would count as Gen 7.
  • Again, standard OU rules and clauses apply.

Tournament Rules
  • Battles can be held on the PokéCommunity Battle Server or on Pokémon Showdown Main.
  • The tournament is Single Elimination and is also a Best Two out of Three.
  • You MUST post all replays as proof of your victory or loss.
  • You may be disqualified for using an illegal team.

Participants:

Matchups:

Round 1:
Spoiler:
  • Dragon vs Bye
  • gimmepie vs punkysaur (1 2)
  • Aaron vs Volty Shocks
  • FireSnow vs Beatbox (1 2)
  • wolf vs Bye
  • Sam1994 vs Noa (12)
  • Choice Specs vs Omicron (12)
  • Decidueye vs Kostas (12)


Round 2:
  • Dragon vs gimmepie (1 2)
  • Aaron vs FireSnow (1 2)
  • wolf vs Sam1994 (1 2)
  • Choice Specs vs Kostas (1 2)

Semis:
(Choice Specs was selected to move on due to Kostas dropping out)
  • Dragon vs FireSnow (1 2 3)
  • wolf vs Choice Specs (1 2)

Finals:
  • Dragon vs wolf (1 2 3)

Mini-Guide:

OU Pokes: (note: you are not limited to only OU Pokes!)
Spoiler:
Gen 1:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/113.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/036.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/051.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/094.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/151.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/145.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/065-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/006-mx.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/006-my.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/130-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/127-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/003-m.png)

Gen 2:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/227.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/235.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/248.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/214-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/212-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/248-m.png)

Gen 3:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/385.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/373.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/381.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/310-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/303-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/308-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/302-m.png)

Gen 4:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/445.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/485.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/462.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/490.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/479w.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/465.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/460-m.png)

Gen 5:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/625.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/530.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/598.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/647.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/646-b.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/645-s.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/545.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/637.png

Gen 6:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/658.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/720-u.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/718.png

Gen 7:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/797.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/798.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/801.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/105-a.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/778.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/793.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/787.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/788.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/785.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/786.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/748.png


Tips:
Spoiler:
  • A lot of the OU Tier are in Gens 5 and 7, so expect many people to pick these two Gens.
  • The downside of going Gen 5/Gen 7 is that your only Mega Pokémon option is Mega Audino.
  • Gens 1 and 2 have a lot of Megas, so choose one of the two depending on which Mega you want to use.
  • Gen 6 is a very good choice as well despite having few Pokémon, as Greninja and Zygarde are both very strong at the moment.
  • Stall enthusiasts can choose Gens 1 and 2 since Skarmory, Chansey, Clefable, and Dugtrio are in those two Generations. Though, the lack of Mega Sableye may be too much.




Sirfetch’d June 13th, 2017 6:24 PM

in

wolf June 13th, 2017 7:04 PM

in

VoltYellow June 13th, 2017 7:38 PM

In coz I'll be free I guess! :)

Kostas June 13th, 2017 7:48 PM

In

punkysaur June 13th, 2017 10:32 PM

Hi

Dragon June 14th, 2017 1:31 AM

Sure I'll join~

Sam1994 June 14th, 2017 7:54 AM

In for a double generation bang!

Omicron June 14th, 2017 8:30 AM

I'm in!

FireSnow June 14th, 2017 9:57 AM

I'll join in, should be fun!

gimmepie June 16th, 2017 3:13 AM

5qwerty won't let my family go unless I join, so I'm in.

noa June 16th, 2017 8:34 PM

in

5qwerty June 16th, 2017 8:58 PM

Hi guys, a few quick updates.

1) My goal is to have at least 16 people join the tournament, we'll see whether that happens or not.
2) I WILL be doing some sort of seeding for this tournament. The reasoning for this is because I feel like players who generally place higher in tournaments should not have to face each other early in a tournament. I'm preparing to do some seeding based on previous tournament performance.
3) I will also post a mini-compendium or guide-esque thing here that makes it easier for participants to teambuild. I think I should have done this before posting the tournament, so apologies to everyone.

ddrox13 June 19th, 2017 2:29 PM

In using 4 and... uhhh... YOU'LL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH

Beatbox June 19th, 2017 2:37 PM

I would love to join, gonna bring my favorite gen pride into this tournament :P

5qwerty June 20th, 2017 1:57 PM

Ok, I'm gonna cut the number of entrants at 16, which means there are 2 spots left.

Also, I sorted the OU tier by generation: (note: you are not limited to only OU Pokes!) It's also in the first post.
Spoiler:
Gen 1:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/113.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/036.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/051.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/094.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/151.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/145.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/065-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/006-mx.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/006-my.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/130-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/127-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/003-m.png)

Gen 2:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/227.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/235.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/248.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/214-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/212-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/248-m.png)

Gen 3:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/385.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/373.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/381.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/310-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/303-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/308-m.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/302-m.png)

Gen 4:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/445.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/485.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/462.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/490.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/479w.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/465.png(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/460-m.png)

Gen 5:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/625.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/530.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/598.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/647.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/646-b.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/645-s.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/545.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/637.png

Gen 6:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/658.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/720-u.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/718.png

Gen 7:
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/797.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/798.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/801.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/105-a.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/778.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/793.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/787.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/788.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/785.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/786.pnghttp://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/icon/748.png

5qwerty June 21st, 2017 10:40 PM

Notifications:
Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Choice Specs (Post 9678463)
in

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 9678488)
in

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volty Shocks (Post 9678511)
In coz I'll be free I guess! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostas (Post 9678518)
In

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkysaur (Post 9678590)
Hi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 9678797)
Sure I'll join~

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam1994 (Post 9679060)
In for a double generation bang!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omicron (Post 9679083)
I'm in!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSnow (Post 9679149)
I'll join in, should be fun!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9680558)
5qwerty won't let my family go unless I join, so I'm in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noa (Post 9681198)
in

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron (Post 9683391)
Hi this is Rabinov signing up and getting ready to smash you all with Generations 2 & 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decidueye (Post 9683396)
In using 4 and... uhhh... YOU'LL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatbox (Post 9683402)
I would love to join, gonna bring my favorite gen pride into this tournament :P


Hi all, I got the registration deadline late by 1 day, so apologies to all for the delay.

I tried seeding by calculating ELO for everyone based on PCL signup tour and PCL weeks. The reason I did not work with the RU or LC tours is because of two reasons:
1. I don't feel that RU or LC are very relevant for this tournament, seeing as it is OU.
2. The data from the RU and LC tournaments are not very well documented in the threads, and it would be too much of a hassle (in addition to the burden I've already put on myself) to go and collect the data.

However with the PCL data, I feel like the it isn't very representative of true skill, as some players may have only played one or two weeks but have higher ELO due to winning those one or two weeks. I turned to ELO because looking at match/game win percentage presents a similar problem, and I thought that ELO would give me the results that I wanted.

In the end I decided to seed based on a combination of ELO, match-weighted win percentage, and game-weighted win percentage. Weight is based on square root of games/matches played. After seeding, the seeds are as follows in the Spoiler below. The last four seeds, 11-14, were randomly generated. If you are not pleased with your seed, please keep in mind that this is all based on data and algorithms of some sort. If anyone is curious, hit me up and I can send you the spreadsheet.
Spoiler:
1. Dragon
2. wolf
3. Choice Specs
4. Aaron
5. FireSnow
6. Decidueye
7. Sam1994
8. gimmepie
9. punkysaur
10. Noa
11. Kostas
12. Beatbox
13. Volty Shocks
14. Omicron


Thus, the Bracket is the following:
https://i.imgur.com/Tzqdz4N.png

EDIT: Ok, I'm stupid and forgot to broadcast the deadline for round one. It will be June 28th, 11:59pm EST. Please get your matches done before then.

FireSnow June 22nd, 2017 1:11 PM

won 2-0 over Beatbox

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266476
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266478

gg good sir

Beatbox June 22nd, 2017 1:12 PM

dang Tapu Lele.

Sam1994 June 25th, 2017 9:04 PM

Done battles with Noa. Well, ggs.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266772
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266773

Kostas June 26th, 2017 6:39 AM

Won against ddrox, ggs
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266810
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266811

ddrox13 June 26th, 2017 6:40 AM

(un)Surprisingly, Kostas' team of which 4/6 members had STAB super effective to Ice managed to beat my Hail team 2-0. GGs!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266810
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266811

EDIT: It has come to my attention that only 3 members of his team carried STAB SE moves. But does it matter?

Sirfetch’d June 26th, 2017 7:38 AM

won vs omi!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266815
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266816

punkysaur June 27th, 2017 8:06 AM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266907
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266908

Lost to gimme. Rocky helmet needs to be banned lol.

5qwerty June 27th, 2017 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volty Shocks (Post 9678511)
ping

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron (Post 9683391)
ping

Although neither of you made your best efforts to communicate with each other (sending visitor messages 2 days after the tournament was posted), I will have to disqualify Volty Shocks if you guys don't finish your battles in 22 hours. The reason is because Volty Shocks has not logged on in over 24 hours. However, if Aaron fails to show up at the time that he set, I will have to think of something else - probably coin flip.

VoltYellow June 28th, 2017 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5qwerty (Post 9690602)
Although neither of you made your best efforts to communicate with each other (sending visitor messages 2 days after the tournament was posted), I will have to disqualify Volty Shocks if you guys don't finish your battles in 22 hours. The reason is because Volty Shocks has not logged on in over 24 hours. However, if Aaron fails to show up at the time that he set, I will have to think of something else - probably coin flip.

I'm really sorry that I couldn't battle for the tour coz Rabi's time was too late for me (1:30 am or 12:30 am). I know I can't do this so Qwert you can disqualify me ( since it was my fault).....

5qwerty June 28th, 2017 10:07 PM

Notifications:
Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam1994 (Post 9688766)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSnow (Post 9685936)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron (Post 9683391)
Hi this is Rabinov signing up and getting ready to smash you all with Generations 2 & 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 9678797)
Sure I'll join~

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 9678488)
in

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9680558)
5qwerty won't let my family go unless I join, so I'm in.



Next round is up, please complete by July 5th, 2017, 11:59pm EST.

https://i.imgur.com/uQAtEGg.png

FireSnow June 30th, 2017 12:51 PM

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267230
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267232

A-Muk was a bit of a hassle for Rab

Otherwise gg!

Edit: Forgot to include I won 2-0

gimmepie July 1st, 2017 4:01 AM

Lost vs Shawn

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267343
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267342

Kostas July 1st, 2017 9:40 AM

Won against Chase, ggs! (I won first game because of focus blast miss, sorry, chase)
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267378
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267381

wolf July 3rd, 2017 7:30 AM

Won vs Sam, mostly ggs. Got a lucky crit on Ferro and won despite me playing crappy in the second battle.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267652
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267653

Kostas July 3rd, 2017 7:52 AM

Since I'm going to leave for vacation in 3 or 4 days. Obviously, I can't battle with wolf so it would be awesome if chase can take my place since we battled for the last round. Can something like this happen? Sorry for this but I wasn't planning on leaving that soon.

5qwerty July 3rd, 2017 7:17 PM

Notifications:
Spoiler:
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSnow (Post 9692813)
ping

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf (Post 9695279)
ping

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 9678797)
ping

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choice Specs (Post 9678463)
ping



Next round is up, please complete by July 10th, 2017, 11:59pm EST.

https://i.imgur.com/bC1DBHS.png

Dragon July 5th, 2017 2:49 PM

Won the round 2-1.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267925
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267926
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-267927

Nice games!

FireSnow July 5th, 2017 2:51 PM

Edit: ninja'd

confirming Lost 2-1 to Dragon

Game 1 was a good game and could've gone either way, Game 2 was just...not something I wanna talk about anytime soon xD Game 3 was a lot of fun, Scarf Koko got me in the end

Got one more win than I thought I'd get so can't say i'm upset with the results though

wolf July 7th, 2017 7:19 PM

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-268109
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-268110

Won vs Chase, ggs.

5qwerty July 8th, 2017 1:42 PM

Notifications:


Finals: Dragon vs wolf. Get battles done by 11:59pm on July 15th, 2017.

Dragon July 10th, 2017 4:32 PM

Won the match 2-1~
A little haxy though.. Still fun games!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-268557
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-268560
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-268561

5qwerty July 10th, 2017 10:47 PM

Ok, Dragon takes it!

Thanks to everyone for participating!


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