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Ho-Oh July 12th, 2017 4:40 PM

Unfezant is really quite unpleasant
 
Unfezant. Possibly the worst starting bird of all time.

Pidove looks cute but then it just... I dunno skyrockets in an awful direction? Ok firstly: has anyone actually used Unfezant for their playthrough? Has it been of any use?

If you're like me and despite loving birds, absolutely are confused about Unfezant: what would you change? How would you make Unfezant more pleasant to use?

Cool_Porygon July 12th, 2017 9:53 PM

Yeah it's my least favourite regional bird for sure. I didn't mind Tranquil though. I think I used it for HM Fly.
Hmm idk about improving Unfezant. Maybe if it was based on a stylish peacock instead. Or a Lyrebird
http://i.imgur.com/iRYI1nB.jpg

Hikamaru July 12th, 2017 11:33 PM

I did use Unfezant for a while in my first playthrough of Black, and while I did like what Game Freak were going for with its gender differences, it was unfortunately held back by learning mainly special moves despite being a physical attacker. It was pretty much a Flying-type Garbodor when you consider stats like that.

I don't think I'd change the design since the line was meant to be based on common pigeons which are often seen in city streets, which in turn fits a region based on New York itself.

FeraligatrMaster July 13th, 2017 12:40 AM

Pidove is cute, but when it evolves into Tranquill, it declines in design and starts spamming Detect and Roost. I like male Unfezant's design, but female Unfezant looks a bit generic. And overall, Unfezant is just a worse Staraptor.

As such, I've never used Unfezant. In Pokemon White, I went on without a Flying type until I could catch a Rufflet. I did, however, use a Pidove in Pokemon White 2. But I immediately permaboxed it after catching a Zubat in the Castelia Sewers.

BlazingCobaltX July 13th, 2017 1:47 AM

Unfezant is the first 'generation bird' (Pidgey, Tailow, Starly) I didn't use, mainly because of its bland design (Pidove is fine still). It's rather forgettable and it doesn't seem to have any specific stat advantages. Instead, I had set my eyes on Braviary immediately.

pkmin3033 July 13th, 2017 1:50 AM

I used Unfezant, although that was admittedly because I didn't have much of a choice, given how poor the other Pokemon along the starting routes were. I'd sooner use that than, say, Watchog or Stoutland.

I found it about as useful as Swellow and Noctowl, I guess? Not as useful as Pidgeot or Staraptor. Of all of them it's probably my least favourite...although I didn't like Talonflame or Toucannon much better.

The female design isn't quite as bad as the male one.

Alexander18 July 13th, 2017 2:13 AM

Unfezant was decent for me. I use it to Fly.

thedestinedblade July 13th, 2017 5:57 AM

It would have been so much more useful had it been special oriented; it's attack rivals Staraptor but it's physical movepool is abysmal!

Hikamaru July 13th, 2017 6:00 AM

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Originally Posted by thedestinedblade (Post 9703961)
It would have been so much more useful had it been special oriented; it's physical movepool is abysmal!

If I remember correctly, its only physical moves without breeding are Fly and Aerial Ace, which are both TMs. It has to rely on TMs if it wants a good physical Flying STAB.

That is what I call crap.

thedestinedblade July 13th, 2017 6:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9703963)
If I remember correctly, its only physical moves without breeding are Fly and Aerial Ace, which are both TMs. It has to rely on TMs if it wants a good physical Flying STAB.

That is what I call crap.

It learns Sky Attack by level up, but 2 turn moves are a no-no. {XD}

Amabilis July 13th, 2017 7:16 AM

I never really used it but knowing it's stats and move poll, Unfezant doesn't seem to bring much new to the table.

I used Braviary instead. It has a nice attack stat and a good movepool but it's a bit too slow. It's low speed stat doesn't make it as useful as Staraptor in my opinion.

Hikamaru July 13th, 2017 7:29 AM

I feel any Unova Flying-type not named Braviary or Sigilyph is pretty much terrible to begin with.

thedestinedblade July 13th, 2017 7:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9704013)
I feel any Unova Flying-type not named Braviary or Sigilyph is pretty much terrible to begin with.

No way. Mandibuzz is better than both and Archeops would be awesome without that crippling ability. Swanna is pretty decent too.

Meganium July 13th, 2017 8:05 AM

but...I like Unfezant.

Especially the male version.

I agree that it's weak but I love its design tho.

tokyodrift July 13th, 2017 8:57 AM

I actually quite enjoyed using Unfezant. It's by no means amazing, but it's decent enough. If there was one thing I could change, it would be it's levelup moveset. It's filled with Special moves when the Pokmeon itself is a Physical attacker. I could see it learning Close Combat as well.

MechaMoth July 13th, 2017 10:35 AM

I never used it beyond just fly, but I really like its design. That could be because I lived on a farm growing up, and my family raised a bunch of birds like pheasants. There really is that much of a gender difference with pheasants, so I appreciated what they were going for. They may have stayed a little too true to the actual animal, but I was happy for it.

I at least liked it better than the Staraptor line based on design alone.

Esper July 13th, 2017 2:04 PM

I don't mind its design, but I don't remember ever using one past the first few routes since I usually avoid using the regional birds once I can get something else on my team. There were just so many other Flying types to choose from.

As far as looks, I think it beats out Pidgeot, Noctowl, and Toucannon.

KorpiklaaniVodka v2.0 July 14th, 2017 9:16 AM

At least Unfezant is not Noctowl

Hikamaru July 24th, 2017 1:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KorpiklaaniVodka v2.0 (Post 9705073)
At least Unfezant is not Noctowl

Noctowl does still stand out from the others for being more special-based. Unfezant is the one who's a huge mistake compared to the other early game birds.

KorpiklaaniVodka v2.0 July 24th, 2017 2:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9713562)
Noctowl does still stand out from the others for being more special-based. Unfezant is the one who's a huge mistake compared to the other early game birds.

Noctowl can't even make good use of Fly and Brave Bird due to its lol physical attack.

You'd have to give it moves such as Air Slash, Night Shade and Psychic to somewhat work in-game, and they don't really help its 86 Special Attack... Swellow at least has Brave Bird to go with its 85 attack stat

alisaie July 27th, 2017 1:12 AM

I use Swanna over Unfezant (who was a solid team member rhank you very much). I liked Ash's unfezant until it got the generic Pokemon bird treatment after it fully evolved lmao.

Hikamaru July 27th, 2017 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ash (Post 9716441)
I use Swanna over Unfezant (who was a solid team member rhank you very much). I liked Ash's unfezant until it got the generic Pokemon bird treatment after it fully evolved lmao.

I can stand with you here. I feel the only special thing Ash's Unfezant had going for it was being female, and I admit Swanna is a better bird Pokemon since it gets that rain abuse with Hydration, Hurricane and powerful Water-type moves.

DarkArx July 27th, 2017 1:44 AM

Unfezant wasn't that bad for me in my first Pokemon Black playthrough, just stuck a scope lens on him and he went wild! Or got KO'd by axews.

Hikamaru July 27th, 2017 2:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkArx (Post 9716465)
Unfezant wasn't that bad for me in my first Pokemon Black playthrough, just stuck a scope lens on him and he went wild! Or got KO'd by axews.

Don't get me wrong. That trick with Super Luck + Scope Lens is definitely fun to use, since it's always so fun rampaging your opponent with all those critical hits.

DarkArx July 27th, 2017 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9716480)
Don't get me wrong. That trick with Super Luck + Scope Lens is definitely fun to use, since it's always so fun rampaging your opponent with all those critical hits.

With air cutter as well it's so frequent lol, just a shame Unfezant has low special attack.


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