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Hikamaru July 28th, 2017 9:59 PM

August predictions
 
So, we had a thread to discuss possible news for US/UM in July 2017, but with the month coming to an end it's fair to say it's all but confirmed to be a drought month, so I figured time for a new thread for the next month.

Like the last thread, what news are you hoping to see get covered in August? What do you think will be shown in the next issue of CoroCoro or any trailers that drop? Are you hoping that August will finally be the start of the US/UM news coverage?

Radiating July 28th, 2017 10:16 PM

I'm just hoping we can get any corocoro leaks or footage for USUM. The news has been very dry unfortunately.

pkmin3033 July 28th, 2017 10:22 PM

But it's still July

All I expect from August is at least ONE trailer. I really don't care what is in it. I doubt it'll be as extensive as what the rumours say even if it's released on the same day - and I hope it isn't the same because some of those ideas in it were awful - but just something would be nice.

Alexander18 July 29th, 2017 12:43 AM

I do want news this month. After july, it is about time for news. Just give us something please.

Hikamaru July 29th, 2017 1:31 AM

My likely guess as to when in August for US/UM news would probably be the second week of the month, since I think the first week being a break should allow for enough time for hype to build up.

I'm guessing a new trailer first, and then CoroCoro.

Famon July 29th, 2017 5:16 AM

Well , I expect USUM news before August 10.

clbgolden July 29th, 2017 6:55 AM

I'm guessing we'll get info during Worlds, at the latest.

janejane6178 July 29th, 2017 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by clbgolden (Post 9718101)
I'm guessing we'll get info during Worlds, at the latest.

When is that?

Lunar July 29th, 2017 9:45 AM

I don't think we'll get too much news this month, but I definitely think we'll get something decent. Maybe a cool trailer or something.

Leafsfan July 29th, 2017 10:27 AM

I think the reason we're not seeing anything is because there's not going to be a whole ton to see. Aside from a couple new Alola forms and possibly some new native Pokemon, the region and all the other Pokemon will stay the same. The only thing they would be able to make a trailer on would be story-related things, and they can't ruin that too much.

clbgolden July 29th, 2017 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9718207)
When is that?

August 18th-20th, I believe.

janejane6178 July 29th, 2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by clbgolden (Post 9718282)
August 18th-20th, I believe.

Ty. I really hope we get something earlier

Alexander18 July 29th, 2017 12:00 PM

Yeah. The reason is lack of news this time is that this is no brand new pokemon to introduce. SM news happen more often because they were the first games of the gen with entirely new pokemon. Obviously USUM will not have new pokemon so the amount of news would not occur as much.

Phyrrhic July 29th, 2017 1:37 PM

I'm happy to wait for news. The Sun and Moon announcement was 9 months before release, and I wasn't happy about being fed info in little drops.

That being said, if a November release in on the books, now would seem to be the time for news.

I hope to see info on the league system, as I'm hoping that gyms make a return.

janejane6178 July 29th, 2017 2:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrhic (Post 9718346)
I'm happy to wait for news. The sun and moon announcement was 9 months before release, and I wasn't happy about being fed info in little drops.

That being said, if a November release in on the books, now would seem to be the time for news.

I hope to see info on the league system, as I'm hoping that gyms make a return.

Im with u on that..
I hope that will be actually news to share ..

WingsofBliss July 29th, 2017 2:22 PM

I just realized that Worlds is in August as well, so I'm starting to doubt my previous thought about a trailer in the beginning of August. They may actually hold off until Worlds happens, maybe. Or we could still get a trailer in the beginning of August and get a new form revealed at Worlds.

Interesting tidbit, but Shigeru Ohmori is set to appear on Pokenchi next week. That doesn't mean anything since Pokenchi has been a deadweight when it comes to news, but IIRC the last time he appeared on that show was within a few days after a new SM trailer was released last year... it was either him or Masuda, I can't remember. Getting to the point, there was nothing new shown on Pokenchi but just a recap of news that had already broken. With that said, I think there's still a possibility of a trailer showing up at the beginning of August despite Worlds taking place two weeks afterwards.

Hikamaru July 29th, 2017 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9718365)
I just realized that Worlds is in August as well, so I'm starting to doubt my previous thought about a trailer in the beginning of August. They may actually hold off until Worlds happens, maybe. Or we could still get a trailer in the beginning of August and get a new form revealed at Worlds.

Interesting tidbit, but Shigeru Ohmori is set to appear on Pokenchi next week. That doesn't mean anything since Pokenchi has been a deadweight when it comes to news, but IIRC the last time he appeared on that show was within a few days after a new SM trailer was released last year... it was either him or Masuda, I can't remember. Getting to the point, there was nothing new shown on Pokenchi but just a recap of news that had already broken. With that said, I think there's still a possibility of a trailer showing up at the beginning of August despite Worlds taking place two weeks afterwards.

I wouldn't trust Pokenchi after all the failed deliveries during S/M's pre-release, but I think leaving it until midway through the month would be a good time for a trailer. The World Championships if I recall did drop a trailer around its time during S/M pre-release, the one that revealed Turtonator if I remember.

WingsofBliss July 29th, 2017 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9718466)
I wouldn't trust Pokenchi after all the failed deliveries during S/M's pre-release

While I agree that nothing will come out of it, please forgive me for being a stickler about this particular issue because it still bugs me. Pokenchi didn't "fail" at anything. They didn't promise anything, at all. What happened was the entire fanbase set their expectations up way too high despite the fact that they were warned and corrected by Serebii and other sites. The fans completely ignored and disregarded the warnings, so I honestly don't feel any sympathy for their butt-hurt.

Hikamaru July 29th, 2017 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9718573)
While I agree that nothing will come out of it, please forgive me for being a stickler about this particular issue because it still bugs me. Pokenchi didn't "fail" at anything. They didn't promise anything, at all. What happened was the entire fanbase set their expectations up way too high despite the fact that they were warned and corrected by Serebii and other sites. The fans completely ignored and disregarded the warnings, so I honestly don't feel any sympathy for their butt-hurt.

I can totally understand that it was a case of setting expectations too high, and let's admit it that ever since those disappointments I have decided to never set my hype level that high again. That's because I was also butthurt when nothing came out.

PlatinumDude July 30th, 2017 7:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9718573)
While I agree that nothing will come out of it, please forgive me for being a stickler about this particular issue because it still bugs me. Pokenchi didn't "fail" at anything. They didn't promise anything, at all. What happened was the entire fanbase set their expectations up way too high despite the fact that they were warned and corrected by Serebii and other sites. The fans completely ignored and disregarded the warnings, so I honestly don't feel any sympathy for their butt-hurt.

Seconding this. I'm guessing the drought for any US/UM news since the mini-teaser was a factor contributing into this.

Alexander18 July 30th, 2017 12:23 PM

Someone made a video on youtube that asks if GF is punishing us with no news due to illegal leaks, people getting games early and showing it before release date and of course the data mining of SM demo.

I don't know if GF is punishing us but the fans probably gave them plenty of reasons to with the above mentions i made.

pkmin3033 July 30th, 2017 12:33 PM

I don't believe GF would withold news in response to past events. No demo and maybe release date pushbacks, I could give some credit to. But there is no harm whatsoever in releasing trailers or articles; not doing so begins to be a detriment to them at a certain point as interest in the games dips, and if leaking things internally is a risky business that has probably cost more than one person their job in the past.

I do delight in how people interpret silence in this fashion, though. Show some optimism, people!

EC July 30th, 2017 12:46 PM

Imagine if, in response to the people who said they revealed too much during the run up to Sun & Moon, they reveal absolutely nothing about Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon in the run up to them.

Desert Stream~ July 30th, 2017 3:24 PM

1 trailer, something small in corocoro, something small in worlds, and then one other small thing another time is what I'm expecting.

w1f1pa55w0rd July 30th, 2017 5:06 PM

i kind of agree with alxander 18. When they datamined the oras demo and the games, they shouldn't have relaesed a demo, or they atleast should have deleted all important actual game data. This may be a way of saying that they are disappointed. i hav i simple question: what the heck is Worlds? are you talking about the pokemon competitive tournaments?
Because that would be a good time to showcase some stuff. like they did in china.

WingsofBliss July 30th, 2017 5:53 PM

I can see them holding off on a demo for those reasons, but I don't see them holding back trailers. The trailers are part of their marketing strategy, so I don't see them doing away with it. For early game releases, there's not much they can do if people in certain timezones get it before everybody else, which is inevitable.

Hikamaru July 31st, 2017 5:50 AM

Wings is right. The trailers proved to be a good marketing strategy so I can't see them abandoning that principle when it comes to releasing information, especially when you consider how fast they spread among social media.

AlolanMoonZPrincess July 31st, 2017 5:53 AM

I doubt CoroCoro will do much since it seems news comes from YouTube more now. I want news on Alolan firms for Johto pokes

Foreigner55 July 31st, 2017 7:59 AM

HI I'm new here and none of you will take anything I say seriously but I believe Pokemon is doing what Disney did with Star Wars only more extreme. Or at least that's what my optimist side believes. The Usum story better be great or I will commit murmur on game freak for giving us too much hype (kidding of course I would never kill anyone that's not in a video game)

Alexander18 July 31st, 2017 11:45 AM

It is now august where i am. Nothing yet. I wouldn't be too hopeful of the 6th or 10th. I predict that we get absolutely zero on both dates.

Foreigner55 July 31st, 2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9719589)
It is now august where i am. Nothing yet. I wouldn't be too hopeful of the 6th or 10th. I predict that we get absolutely zero on both dates.

For me August comes tomorrow. Recently checked the official USUM site. Nothing.

w1f1pa55w0rd July 31st, 2017 5:11 PM

WOOHOO! AUGUUUUUUUUST. nothing. i highly doubt that they'll reveal anything. i dont know. i would be happy for some spoiler free news,: in the sense, no new pokemon or anything. just some news. no teasing features either. just something to add to the hype. i know that poeple who dont want spoilers can not look, but u hav to agree, there was no surprise in the pokemon. and also, it was obvious that lillie was related in some way to lusamine and gladion. come one, u had to see that one coming. and about the ultra beasts, that was a twist, but it was completely post game. so in the end, i guess they just let too much slip, and they released a demo with info about the full game. yah, i dont want any news with spoliers

blue August 1st, 2017 2:27 AM

I'm feeling we'll get a trailer next week, it would be better than nothing at this point. I can't see them going through the whole of August without giving us any new screenshots/footage, that'd be like the longest we've ever gone without news for a game I think.

Hikamaru August 1st, 2017 3:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9719975)
I'm feeling we'll get a trailer next week, it would be better than nothing at this point. I can't see them going through the whole of August without giving us any new screenshots/footage, that'd be like the longest we've ever gone without news for a game I think.

This is my likely guess as well, but if I remember we did go 2 months without news after S/M's announcement. Considering we have a shorter announcement to release period this time around, only one drought month would be better than two.

Foreigner55 August 1st, 2017 4:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9720007)
This is my likely guess as well, but if I remember we did go 2 months without news after S/M's announcement. Considering we have a shorter announcement to release period this time around, only one drought month would be better than two.

Either way they have to release information soon. You don't just create a site and put nothing on it (unless your lazy. Or you don't have enough money. Wich game freak is neither sooo...)

pkmin3033 August 1st, 2017 4:39 AM

Whether or not GF is lazy is a very debatable point...

I find it interesting that people are so optimistic about news this month, although it is inevitable that the longer there is no news, the more likely it is that news is coming up. That said, I don't see anything major in the first news update we'll get, unless they're only planning on one a month...or have the worst organisational skills imaginable in terms of how they release content.

w1f1pa55w0rd August 1st, 2017 7:23 AM

look, i know most of you really want news, but dont you think they gave us too much last time? do you really want such frequent news updates that we know the pseudo legendary of the game? becuase THEY did that.

pkmin3033 August 1st, 2017 7:52 AM

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Originally Posted by w1f1pa55w0rd (Post 9720216)
look, i know most of you really want news, but dont you think they gave us too much last time? do you really want such frequent news updates that we know the pseudo legendary of the game? becuase THEY did that.

Actually no, I don't think they gave us too much, at least not intentionally. The problems came from the datamining of the demo - which was not intentional, even if responsibility for it ultimately lies with GF for the way the demo was designed - and from what I recall, officially revealed information for SM was frequent, but never particularly groundbreaking in terms of gameplay features etc.

It ultimately depends on what you define as "frequent" and what you consider a spoiler. Personally I think information should be evenly spaced across months, rather than dumped en masse towards the final run-up to release. There is likely going to be more contention with USUM's news because they won't be able to focus on new Pokemon to quite the same degree, but ultimately...well, nobody is forcing you to read it, are they? If you don't want to be spoiled, just don't look.

Hikamaru August 1st, 2017 8:54 AM

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Originally Posted by w1f1pa55w0rd (Post 9720216)
look, i know most of you really want news, but dont you think they gave us too much last time? do you really want such frequent news updates that we know the pseudo legendary of the game? becuase THEY did that.

When you look at it, S/M was the first game of a new generation so it was clear the news releases in the lead-up focused mainly on new Pokemon. Since we don't need to focus on that aspect anymore with US/UM, it's clear the trailers this time around will focus on other new features that weren't initially present in S/M.

janejane6178 August 1st, 2017 9:41 AM

Well, they surely know how to "hype us up". I sure am not... ;;

Foreigner55 August 1st, 2017 9:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9720303)
When you look at it, S/M was the first game of a new generation so it was clear the news releases in the lead-up focused mainly on new Pokemon. Since we don't need to focus on that aspect anymore with US/UM, it's clear the trailers this time around will focus on other new features that weren't initially present in S/M.

Personally I'm just thankful that were getting anything this year. I have to wait until next year for the new Kirby game and even then I don't know what time of year it's coming out.

Alexander18 August 1st, 2017 12:42 PM

Yeah. Getting new games to keep us busy is something i can be grateful. Just have to be patient with the news. It would come.

w1f1pa55w0rd August 1st, 2017 9:20 PM

u r right. the datamining was the reason, but in my opinion a bigger surprise is better than a spoiler trailers. i am hoping for news, but not about all the new features. i want somehting to hope for, until the last sedcond, until i play the game. but yeah, i do feel pissed. GF didn;t even give us marshadow stuff

PkmnTrainerElio August 1st, 2017 10:42 PM

I hope we get news this month, all they need to do is release a longer trailer with the teaser we got, showing various things that they know we will spend time speculating on.

If there are "new Pokémon" like so many people believe (I don't, but I would like to be surprised), they could give us silhouettes of three of them and we can spend ages speculating on their types and what they look like (it worked well for Gen V). I don't believe that there are any new Pokémon and I feel sorry for the people that are gonna be disappointed worldwide on November 17, when we get Pokémon like Koffing and Sentret available to catch in Alola, because they hung on to a small quote saying "Featuring Pokémon that didn't appear in the original versions".

Hikamaru August 1st, 2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by w1f1pa55w0rd (Post 9720729)
u r right. the datamining was the reason, but in my opinion a bigger surprise is better than a spoiler trailers. i am hoping for news, but not about all the new features. i want somehting to hope for, until the last sedcond, until i play the game. but yeah, i do feel pissed. GF didn;t even give us marshadow stuff

I know we did get a trailer focused on Marshadow, but that was only just to announce hit. Heck, it didn't even hint as to exactly when its event would be released at the time.

Foreigner55 August 2nd, 2017 3:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9720770)
I know we did get a trailer focused on Marshadow, but that was only just to announce hit. Heck, it didn't even hint as to exactly when its event would be released at the time.

Well since we're getting a new game it's likely marshadow will come out with that game. Otherwise game freak are a bunch of jerks.

pkmin3033 August 2nd, 2017 3:44 AM

I'd be willing to bet Marshadow will be another event-exclusive Legendary, because the ones at the end of the Pokedex always are. There's no reason that would change. The best we can hope for, realistically, is another QR code similar to Magearna's in SM.

Hikamaru August 2nd, 2017 4:00 AM

I would love to see Marshadow become a QR code event, since I think distributing Magearna through that method worked very well. But knowing me, it's probably going to be like any other event legendary.

Alexander18 August 2nd, 2017 11:59 AM

Day three of August and nothing. Some speculate 10th but i am doubtful.

Foreigner55 August 2nd, 2017 12:46 PM

Were all a bit impatient don't you think?

Altairis August 2nd, 2017 5:28 PM

Datamining is the developer's fault; I feel like they can't punish fans (a good chunk of which also don't follow leaks due to being too young, etc) for their own mistake of including all the data in the game right there. They should know by know that everything is gonna be hacked; make it unhackable (if that exists) or don't put sensitive data in there. It's silly.

Also, the person who made a video on this theory and helped spread it is Verlisify, and is he really a good source? Someone who makes videos with angry rants for
money? Every video profits him so... I think he'd report on almost anything.

I expect something at Worlds. Nothing too indepth since I don't think they spent too much time on the Crabrawler reveal last year, but something like a new form or anything. Even if it's just more of an explanation on the Necrozma forms.

Isn't there also the suspected reveal in the toy line? I haven't read too much into it, but I think something new is gonna be revealed on August 10th. Whether it's new as in from USUM (ex. new Alola form) or new as in there isn't a figure like this (ex. Marshadow figure) we have to wait and see.

I kinda doubt Marshadow will be in USUM since they just did a SM distribution for Japan, and if they did a USUM distribution that would be 2 in a row for Japan. Not sure if that's happened before but there's no way they would leave Japan out! This paragraph is mostly joking... but kinda not..

Alexander18 August 2nd, 2017 6:54 PM

I think that we can't rely on merchandise for news on games. Sometimes the merchandise shows an upcoming evolution in the anime. So merchandise is not 100% guaranteed.

Hikamaru August 2nd, 2017 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9721178)
Day three of August and nothing. Some speculate 10th but i am doubtful.

I'd say wait a week. A new CoroCoro issue will be leaking next week anyway.

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9721401)
I think that we can't rely on merchandise for news on games. Sometimes the merchandise shows an upcoming evolution in the anime. So merchandise is not 100% guaranteed.

I know a lot of merchandise does relate to the anime, so I can see what you mean.

pkmin3033 August 2nd, 2017 9:11 PM

I think it safe to say the merchandise we're waiting on is not related to the anime, so that's kind of a moot point in this instance.

Although that doesn't mean it'll reveal anything new either, I suppose.

Foreigner55 August 3rd, 2017 3:40 AM

If I was a betting man (wich I'm not) I'd be willing to bet nintendos been working on this one for a while. It's coming out in 3 months. I don't think you can get a game done in the amount of time from when they announced it to November.

pkmin3033 August 3rd, 2017 3:53 AM

The whole game? No. But a short development time of a year or so isn't out of the question, especially since it'll be based on SM so that's a lot of the work already done. So you could look at it as a game they've had in the works since they started making SM, in a way...the preliminary ideas must have been running around then, at the very least.

PkmnTrainerElio August 3rd, 2017 6:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9721686)
The whole game? No. But a short development time of a year or so isn't out of the question, especially since it'll be based on SM so that's a lot of the work already done. So you could look at it as a game they've had in the works since they started making SM, in a way...the preliminary ideas must have been running around then, at the very least.

Black and White started production in 2006, four years before their initial release, so Sun and Moon may have started production in 2013 or before... So, they had four or more years to work on US/UM.

WingsofBliss August 3rd, 2017 3:08 PM

The Lycanroc mystery in the anime sure has me interested. That's happening next week, right? The way that the whole Pokemon community is talking, I wonder if we'll get a trailer dropped sometime next week. If not, then I'm thinking Worlds will have something for sure.

Alexander18 August 3rd, 2017 4:31 PM

I think that for the anime Rockruff might become midday or midnight so i don't think that be news for next week.

Corocoro could have news. Or we can a trailer reveal before or after to display USUM news. Whatever method we get the news from, i think it be something to occupy us.

WingsofBliss August 3rd, 2017 5:39 PM

Interesting speculation go in on here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/893058259338317824

With that said, I agree with some of the posters saying we could get a USM reveal sometime before Thursday of next week. IIRC, new forms are rarely revealed in the anime before anything else, so if its true TPC would want to reveal the new Lycanroc in a trailer for USM before it's shown in the anime. The reason so many people are speculating a new Lycanroc form is because (1)dataminers found evidence of a 3rd form in SM and (2)there was something on Global Link that popped up;

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/893058942208798721

The timing of all this is too close to be a coincidence I think, with it being 3 months away from USM and Worlds happening in a couple weeks.

PkmnTrainerElio August 3rd, 2017 5:43 PM

I'd laugh so hard if Lycanroc ended up not evolving at all...

Alexander18 August 3rd, 2017 6:58 PM

Even if there is a new Lycanroc form, i probably won't use it. Didn't use the other two in SM.

I actually prefer info on the mascots/Necrozma forms.

Hikamaru August 3rd, 2017 7:02 PM

I did use a Midnight Lycanroc on my main story team in Moon. I may use Lycanroc again if a new form ends up being canon, since I may want to see how it does.

clbgolden August 3rd, 2017 8:51 PM

If Ash's Rockruff does evolve into a new form in next week's episode, I would bet that there would a be a USUM trailer showcasing it beforehand. The anime doesn't normally outright announce things (Edit: Well, aside from the Zygarde forms).

Or it evolves into Ash-Lycanroc.

Hikamaru August 4th, 2017 1:38 AM

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Originally Posted by clbgolden (Post 9722414)
If Ash's Rockruff does evolve into a new form in next week's episode, I would bet that there would a be a USUM trailer showcasing it beforehand. The anime doesn't normally outright announce things (Edit: Well, aside from the Zygarde forms).

Or it evolves into Ash-Lycanroc.

Ash-Greninja also debuted in the anime first prior to becoming available in the games in S/M.

WingsofBliss August 4th, 2017 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by clbgolden (Post 9722414)
If Ash's Rockruff does evolve into a new form in next week's episode, I would bet that there would a be a USUM trailer showcasing it beforehand. The anime doesn't normally outright announce things (Edit: Well, aside from the Zygarde forms).

Or it evolves into Ash-Lycanroc.

Actually, the Zygarde forms were properly announced through Corocoro and the official website before they debuted in the anime. They were first teased at the end of a movie (Zygarde Core and Complete Zygarde silhouette), but never actually announced. According to Serebii the only new form of an existing Pokemon that came really close to being announced through the anime was Charizard X.

clbgolden August 4th, 2017 6:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9722581)
Ash-Greninja also debuted in the anime first prior to becoming available in the games in S/M.

True, but Ash-Greninja wasn't really that big of a deal (and barely had anything to do with Alola). A new Lycanroc form would be a bigger deal.

Edit: Nearly forgot, Corocoro leaks early during August since it releases early (on the 13th I think) as there's a Japanese holiday on the 15th. Just so you guys know.

Hikamaru August 4th, 2017 12:45 PM

Thanks for that reminder regarding CoroCoro. Kinda forgot the September issue leaks earlier than usual due to a holiday.

WingsofBliss August 4th, 2017 6:52 PM

Now that will be interesting. If TPC plan on releasing a trailer, that means it would be sometime in the first part of next week. That's if what may in the trailer might be the same in corocoro, as that's how it went last year.

strangerhypno August 4th, 2017 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9722581)
Ash-Greninja also debuted in the anime first prior to becoming available in the games in S/M.

Wasn't Ash-Greninja an anime only thing originally?

Hikamaru August 4th, 2017 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by strangerhypno (Post 9723244)
Wasn't Ash-Greninja an anime only thing originally?

Yes it was, since it wasn't in the 6th Gen games.

pkmin3033 August 4th, 2017 10:08 PM

I really hope they don't bring in anime-only things into the games again...Ash-Greninja was just plain ridiculous, and let's face it, the anime does not have what one might call a good track record when it comes to making sense. I suppose they COULD coincide a new Lycanroc form announcement with an anime episode, but...well, after Ash vs. Alain, I wouldn't even consider using the anime as a basis for expectations, personally.

Hikamaru August 4th, 2017 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9723388)
I really hope they don't bring in anime-only things into the games again...Ash-Greninja was just plain ridiculous, and let's face it, the anime does not have what one might call a good track record when it comes to making sense. I suppose they COULD coincide a new Lycanroc form announcement with an anime episode, but...well, after Ash vs. Alain, I wouldn't even consider using the anime as a basis for expectations, personally.

There has been speculation news would drop next week, and next week's anime episode will have Rockruff evolving. But considering Rockruff's eyes glowed green while looking at the sunset in the preview, it could be hinting a new "twilight form" for Lycanroc or something like that.

If a trailer not revealing it officially doesn't come next week, then this will unfortunately be another situation where the anime debuts something before its official game debut, like the Zygarde forms and Ash-Greninja.

And even if a new trailer doesn't come out, new CoroCoro leaks will still be happening next week.

pkmin3033 August 4th, 2017 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9723405)
There has been speculation news would drop next week, and next week's anime episode will have Rockruff evolving. But considering Rockruff's eyes glowed green while looking at the sunset in the preview, it could be hinting a new "twilight form" for Lycanroc or something like that.

If a trailer not revealing it officially doesn't come next week, then this will unfortunately be another situation where the anime debuts something before its official game debut, like the Zygarde forms and Ash-Greninja.

And even if a new trailer doesn't come out, new CoroCoro leaks will still be happening next week.

All signs pointed to Ash trashing Alain in the Kalos League final too, and look how THAT turned out. My point was only that the anime frequently defies hopes and expectations, not that those aren't invalid. Just that I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again. Fan expectations are frequently crushed by GF, and there is always a lot of speculation and "evidence" and, looking at it historically, I don't see how this instance is any different.

...of course, sometimes its been true. But any one of these instances could have been. I just wouldn't be surprised if this time it turned out to be false, the same as so many others.

Alexander18 August 4th, 2017 11:02 PM

Actually no. There was no sign of ash beating alain. Ash was never gonna win the league. Past regions confirm this. Alain was better and earn the win fair and square.

As fo this months new on august, if the early corocoro thing is true then we would see it around the tenth.

Edit: bad news. Apparently the cover of corocoro mentions nothing about USUM. Looks like another month of no news.

Hikamaru August 5th, 2017 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9723433)
Edit: bad news. Apparently the cover of corocoro mentions nothing about USUM. Looks like another month of no news.

Guess I can't trust CoroCoro anymore if they're shoving Pokemon into the background like that. Remember the scans haven't shown yet so don't come to a conclusion on this being a drought month since there are still the possibility of new trailers.

It would just be so terrible if US/UM have no info revealed in the lead-up to release. Sure, it would be great for those who like avoiding spoilers, but not so good for discussions here since a news drought means this section will suffer from a lack of new info to discuss. It would just feel weird if US/UM become the first main series games to have no info revealed between announcement day and release day.

The lack of news has made this section's activity feel dead, and the only way it's thriving is by bringing up topics that have already been brought up before.

Alexander18 August 5th, 2017 1:34 AM

It seems Lycanroc might have a new form. Serebii has put up the cover of corocoro on the site and if you look closely then you would see a wolf like creature. But i hold my expectations until further confirmation.

Hikamaru August 5th, 2017 1:37 AM

Here's the picture if anyone wants to see it:



Bit hard to see, and while it's not confirmed at this stage if US/UM news will be covered, this new Lycanroc form's appearance may suggest US/UM news will be shown.

WingsofBliss August 5th, 2017 3:40 AM

The Serebii website Twitter account also states there will be USM news on Pokenchi tonight.

It's happening, man down the hatches people.

janejane6178 August 5th, 2017 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9723690)
The Serebii website Twitter account also states there will be USM news on Pokenchi tonight.

It's happening, man down the hatches people.

Omg really? In how long??

Hikamaru August 5th, 2017 4:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9723690)
The Serebii website Twitter account also states there will be USM news on Pokenchi tonight.

It's happening, man down the hatches people.

Wait, Pokenchi? And I thought I lost faith in that as a news source due to their failure to reveal any new info during S/M's pre-release period. I did hear that Shigeru Ohmori was going to appear or something, so I do feel it'll be something important.

janejane6178 August 5th, 2017 4:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9723709)
Wait, Pokenchi? And I thought I lost faith in that as a news source due to their failure to reveal any new info during S/M's pre-release period. I did hear that Shigeru Ohmori was going to appear or something, so I do feel it'll be something important.

I really don't count on that. If I remember right, we had some lame news in Pokenchi

pkmin3033 August 5th, 2017 4:41 AM

It would be unusual for Pokemon news to be confined to Japanese media now I think. Pokemon is a global franchise, and it has been for years. SM's Western sales in particular more than prove that any news, should we get it, should be released worldwide simultaneously, likely straight from Nintendo. Just because CoroCoro might not have anything doesn't mean we won't be getting anything this month.

...although in the event Japan does get something first, I'd expect a Western announcement within the day.

Foreigner55 August 5th, 2017 4:47 AM

Why is game freak keeping news from us. Pokemon is one of the big three franchises along with the likes of Mario and Zelda (who both got tons of trailers for they're new games mind you)! The more trailers they release the more money they will make! Game freak has tons of money! They can spare a few dollars (er... Yen?) into making a trailer!

pkmin3033 August 5th, 2017 5:12 AM

Bad marketing strategy. Basically.

That said, the most important time to release trailers and provide information is in the run-up to release, and we're still three months away. Frustration of people who will likely buy the games regardless doesn't really mean much from a business standpoint.

WingsofBliss August 5th, 2017 5:12 AM

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Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9723697)
Omg really? In how long??

7pm Eastern Time:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/893809169844891648

Also, I think we need to be really patient you guys. I'd hazard a guess on getting an international trailer released by Monday at the earliest. We're at least getting something in less than 12 hours, I'll take anything at this point.

Hikamaru August 5th, 2017 5:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Meyneth (Post 9723722)
Bad marketing strategy. Basically.

That said, the most important time to release trailers and provide information is in the run-up to release, and we're still three months away. Frustration of people who will likely buy the games regardless doesn't really mean much from a business standpoint.

She's right. Building up to a new Pokemon game release without dropping trailers from time to time would be a bad move, considering how successful the trailers were in the lead-up to S/M.

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9723723)
7pm Eastern Time

That should be about 6pm for me since I'm not currently in daylight savings (doesn't start again in Sydney until October 1st if I recall aka my birthday). Not too bad.

janejane6178 August 5th, 2017 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foreigner55 (Post 9723716)
Why is game freak keeping news from us. Pokemon is one of the big three franchises along with the likes of Mario and Zelda (who both got tons of trailers for they're new games mind you)! The more trailers they release the more money they will make! Game freak has tons of money! They can spare a few dollars (er... Yen?) into making a trailer!

You're so right.
At this point, I think there AREN'T any news to share.

PkmnTrainerElio August 5th, 2017 7:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9723433)
Actually no. There was no sign of ash beating alain. Ash was never gonna win the league. Past regions confirm this. Alain was better and earn the win fair and square.

As fo this months new on august, if the early corocoro thing is true then we would see it around the tenth.

Edit: bad news. Apparently the cover of corocoro mentions nothing about USUM. Looks like another month of no news.

Oh for crying the Hell out loud, not another news-less month.

Guys, don't get your hopes up... I'm afraid it looks like we're getting the original Pokémon Sun and Moon again, just with a new coat of paint and new features and forms slapped on.

If these Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are in fact a third version, like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, then we'd better get new artwork of characters.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 5th, 2017 7:28 AM

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Originally Posted by clbgolden (Post 9722764)
True, but Ash-Greninja wasn't really that big of a deal (and barely had anything to do with Alola). A new Lycanroc form would be a bigger deal.

Edit: Nearly forgot, Corocoro leaks early during August since it releases early (on the 13th I think) as there's a Japanese holiday on the 15th. Just so you guys know.

There was also Ho-oh in the very first episode xD. There were a ton of pokemon shown in the anime before official announcements during the Original and Advance Saga. They stopped doing it in DP and beyond.

janejane6178 August 5th, 2017 7:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hau (Post 9723846)
Oh for crying the Hell out loud, not another news-less month.

Guys, don't get your hopes up... I'm afraid it looks like we're getting the original Pokémon Sun and Moon again, just with a new coat of paint and new features and forms slapped on.

If these Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are in fact a third version, like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, then we'd better get new artwork of characters.

I think you're right. I think that the reason we get no news is because there is nothing to share, except for new forms here and there.. I have a feeling its going to be a typical 3rd version. If they wanted to hype us up they would have done that by now

pkmin3033 August 5th, 2017 7:45 AM

I think there is plenty to share, just nothing that would be appropriate. I imagine the differences in USUM will be comprised mostly of the story, the postgame, and a few new Pokemon forms, and of those three things, the first two aren't really the sort of thing you'd expect to see in trailers months before the release date.

clbgolden August 5th, 2017 7:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hau (Post 9723846)
Oh for crying the Hell out loud, not another news-less month.

Guys, don't get your hopes up... I'm afraid it looks like we're getting the original Pokémon Sun and Moon again, just with a new coat of paint and new features and forms slapped on.

If these Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are in fact a third version, like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, then we'd better get new artwork of characters.

I mean... Isn't that what were expecting in the first place? :P

Either way, between CoroCoro and Pokenchi, I think we may actually get news this month.

Alexander18 August 5th, 2017 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hau (Post 9723846)
Oh for crying the Hell out loud, not another news-less month.

Guys, don't get your hopes up... I'm afraid it looks like we're getting the original Pokémon Sun and Moon again, just with a new coat of paint and new features and forms slapped on.

If these Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are in fact a third version, like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum, then we'd better get new artwork of characters.

There is actually what appears to be a new form of lycanroc on the cover of corocoro that i missed. Have to look carefully. Also news on the 6th is happening but i don't know if it is new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by janejane6178 (Post 9723884)
I think you're right. I think that the reason we get no news is because there is nothing to share, except for new forms here and there.. I have a feeling its going to be a typical 3rd version. If they wanted to hype us up they would have done that by now

The 6th is said to have upcoming news and a new form of lycanroc seems to be spotted on the cover of corocoro that was easily missed.

WingsofBliss August 5th, 2017 1:57 PM

Holy jeez louise you guys. We only have one hour left, why all the negativity? There clearly is something in Corocoro, it's the customers who buy it in Japan who leak it. This is not the first time they've taken awhile to leak pages inside the magazine.

They are most likely waiting on Pokenchi to see what they show in an hour; they want to see if Corocoro and Pokenchi will be covering the same thing or not. If it's the same exact info as Pokenchi, they're not going to bother posting images. By "they" I'm talking about the people in Japan who have the magazine on hand, not Serebii.

Hikamaru August 5th, 2017 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clbgolden (Post 9723894)
Either way, between CoroCoro and Pokenchi, I think we may actually get news this month.

Since Pokenchi seems to have revealed our major news (announcing the new Dusk Form of Lycanroc) I think CoroCoro is only just going to cover what was shown.

pkmin3033 August 5th, 2017 9:00 PM

It'd be quite depressing if all we got this month was a Lycanroc recolour, but the month is young, so I wouldn't be too surprised if something else pops up...if nothing else, we should get a trailer in the West revealing it, so that might in turn reveal some other things, whether by accident or by design.

Alexander18 August 5th, 2017 10:35 PM

There is nothing wrong with third versions. Emerald and Platinum are superb games. Third versions are improvements over first pair. I don't mind if USUM are third versions. I think it be great to go back to them. Been a while. I think we might get more than just Lycanroc for this months news.

pkmin3033 August 5th, 2017 10:43 PM

That these games will be third versions or sequels is still just an assumption, but I imagine that the quality of the content we can expect of them will be similar to those sorts of games in the past. To use a more general, all-encompassing term, re-treads of existing regions (which we know this will be at least since it's definitely set in Alola) ARE always better - even if the quality of the first games is sub-par - and there's no reason to assume that USUM won't follow this trend.

I'm not excited, but I am hoping USUM will redeem the franchise somewhat after SM turned out to be absolutely diabolical and Gen VI was a disappointment. There's no reason to get excited at all I don't think, but looking at it historically I think it safe to say they'll be the better games. I have yet to meet someone who prefers the original games in a gen to the re-treads anyway, with the possible exception of BW due to the "story" content.

I honestly can't remember what the news pattern was like for B2W2 so I have no idea if the best we can hope for this month is recoloured Lycanroc or not.

pkmin3033 August 5th, 2017 10:57 PM

That would depend on if these games are more comparable to third versions like Platinum or sequels like B2W2 - SM were very "story-focused" titles, so if they change that aspect of it in USUM, it could be a dramatic difference even for those who dislike the games, if that was their primary reason for disliking them...which is why I said Gen V was the possible exception to the "re-treads are better" thing, because some people prefer the "plot" of BW to B2W2, and if you prioritise story over gameplay, then additions to gameplay will obviously not carry as much weight as changes to story. I'd agree that the gameplay content will be more-or-less the same with additions, but if they play with the plot of USUM it could wind up being much better...or much worse, although I honestly struggle to imagine how it could be much worse.

From what I can see, people are hoping for better postgame for the most part...which I can't see ever being announced in trailers. At least, not until late September/October. Which is why I said that there is probably news, just nothing appropriate. I also think more people would be upset than not if the postgame features were leaked or revealed this early on...or at all, even. Given the fuss the datamining caused.


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