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USUM last pokémon game for 3DS?
Will USUM be the last pokemon game for the 3ds or will they hold up one more until late 2018 early 2019 when Pokemon for Switch comes and then they bail on us.I think USUM may be the last Pokemon game for the 3DS.What do you all think?
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wouldn't be suprised. The fact they announced pokemon switch so early makes me think it's gonna come sooner rather then later. Of course, they could pull a smash 4 and release it on 3ds and switch but idk how that would work.
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They did have cross-play for MHXX for Switch and 3DS.But for Pokemon the developers might want to go out of the 3DS's hardware capabilities.
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I think that will most likely be the case. It's kind of exciting and yet sobering at the same time; even though the Switch is essentially a handheld and home console combined into one machine, USUM may just be the last core series games to be on a standalone handheld. 20 years of being a handheld series and they're moving on... i think I'm gonna cry...
Here's a question that's popped into my head regarding the Switch game... since it's a different system, I wonder if they'll continue with making dual games or(pardon the pun) switch to making a singular game? I would think they're going to stick to dual games since trading version exclusives and stuff is what makes Pokemon for what it is, but I'm still curious. |
Pinkie-Dawn told me that Nintendo does plan to continue supporting the 3DS, but I can see where Wings is coming from in that Nintendo may only focus on the Switch due to it being a hybrid of home console and handheld.
Also, I feel moving the main series to Switch may be a step backwards since 3DS is two screens and the Switch is only single screen. |
Since it was hinted at that there would be a pokemon game for the switch, I would not be surprised if it would be the last pokemon game for 3ds, though anything could happen.
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Likely. The next pokemon would gen 8 on the Switch. USUM are the final gen 7 games and the final 3DS main series pokemon games.
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Its gonna be really sad actually.I was hoping for remakes of diamond and pearl before the Switch main Pokemon game.
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I really dont like the idea of using the switch. 3ds was the option in my opinion
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BW are not remakes though. They were put on the DS since the DS is still useable and popular. |
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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/07/pokemon_on_nintendo_switch_is_due_2018_or_later_but_thats_no_surprise https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/6/13/15778774/new-pokemon-nintendo-switch-game-freak-announced-e3-2017 etc highly doubt they would release a pokemon game in between USUM and 2018 |
It probably is going to be on the switch after USUM is released. They probably won't make a gen between gen 8, on the switch, and USUM. Gen 4 remakes probably would come after gen 8.
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i'm hoping that pokemon switch is just a pokemon game for the switch and that's it but i haven't really dont any research about it
i dont think usum is the last pokemon game for 3ds though |
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Anyway i think gen 7 is ending with four games just gen 5 and gen 6. USUM should end the generation and 3DS series with a bang. |
Black 2 and white 2.
And again, not saying they are remakes. I'm talking about a potential remake. in the future. |
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USUM seems like typical third versions for some but i don't think they end the generation and 3DS pokemon games like that. |
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And are you saying that B2W2 won't get a remake, or that the remake will be B2/B, and W2/W? |
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B2W2 probably won't get remakes. Third versions don't get remakes so sequels may not get remakes either. |
Figured time to break up the argument with something. Shigeru Ohmori hinted that main series Pokemon games tend to take three years' worth of development, so if the Switch game that Game Freak are working on is the first game of 8th Gen, I probably don't see it coming until 2019.
So, be prepared for a gap year next year. |
I don't think the Switch game(s) are too far along in development since the Switch is a new system and so far we only have a confirmation that it's happening and was likely announced way ahead of time because of the backlash from the announcement that US/UM would be on the 3DS (despite all of the complaints about the opposite happening...), so I could see them making one last set of games for the 3DS if only to keep the money coming in while they work on whatever they're doing for the Switch.
It just depends on what Game Freak decides to do and if Nintendo is willing to let them do it. |
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It's a shame that GF has to deal with impatient fans who fail to realize that they're not gonna scrap all the current assets and make brand new ones mid generation just so they can put it on a different console. |
I don't see where people are getting the idea that they announced the Switch game recently because of supposed backlash from USUM silence. That's insinuating that Game Freak mindlessly catered to needless complaining, and that's not how they work. When are people gonna learn to be patient? Seriously, the majority of the responses from butthurt fans is getting asinine.
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However, they could put some things from B2W2 into BW remakes. Lets not forget that alternate universes exist so something like that can work. |
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Also we haven't had a remake of a sequel yet, so you're just making assumptions. |
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Hey guys, just jumping in to remind you to stay on topic please. This thread is about discussing the potential of Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon being the last games on the 3DS rather than the discussion of Black and White remakes.
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Kind of the relation that Consoles and PC ever had, Switch's Version will prolly be the superior/most pretty one and the 3DS one will keep walking on the same route it has been walking on, with its small resolution, ugly graphical quality, frame drops, etc. Unless Nintendo decided to make a replacement for it, that is. |
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I dont see why they would be.
The Switch simply is not popular enough (~5m sales compared to the ~19m of the 3ds over the same time period) to make a main series game for, it wouldnt sell well. This coupled with the higher development cost with a more complex system, it would be too much of a risk to make it switch exclusive. |
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They announced it early because of USUM being on 3DS backlash..? I don't think I understand Quote:
In my area, a super large city, GameStop had to do preorders in July because they hadn't receieved any Switches in month and only expected to get a few. Toys R Us hadn't received any since launch. Best Buy and Target hadn't received any in weeks and then only a few. There are mutiples of each in my area and I called ones 1 hour away. Trust me I called them all lol. |
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The supply shortages were only a major issue at launch (like all new big name tech), and although they still exist to a smaller degree, that doesnt warrant 75% less sales. I might also add that the 3DS had a similar supply issue at launch.
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The 5m switch units sold, compared to the 67m of the 3DS should force GF to not develop for the switch until it has a much larger user base. Sales would be severely limited, lowering revenue, coupled with the costs of developing for the new system, lowering profits. From a monetary standpoint, GF should not be making a switch exclusive game for at least another development cycle. I have a Switch, and would love to have a main series game on it, but im just being realistic. I wouldnt mind some of the more obscure Pokemon titles i.e. Pokemon Ranger being released, as it wouldnt be as risky as making the main series Switch only. EDIT: I might add that GF is a company, their only goal is to make money, not to innovate for the sake of innovation. Selling on the switch only would be a terrible buisness choice. It is only a vocal minority of fans who want games on the switch, as the switch user base is currently a minority in the Nintendo ecosystem. |
I think that they're trying to phase out the 3ds and move to the switch. Nintendo said they'd support the 3ds, but for how long? Who knows. It could be 5 years. It could be 1 year. But either way, It's gonna end eventually.
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I normally don't like saying things with 99% certainty, buttttttt
These are probably gonna be the last Pokémon games on 3DS. GF says they want the new Pokémon Switch out by next year at the earliest, so they most likely aren't even working on anything else except USUM and the upcoming Switch game. At best we might get a spin-off or something. |
The only other thing that would likely come this generation would be Diamond and Pearl remakes, but a lot of people think it's too early for that. Additionally, there's already a Switch title well into development and it's unlikely they'd confirm a game that comes out after another still-unannounced title, before still another set has yet to be released. That's just too much - and besides, they have yet to release two sets of remakes on one console.
It's almost a sure bet that the next title will be on the Switch and that no more 3DS titles are coming. |
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I agree with Alexander,Fanservice is a bunch of baloney.Never think a company listens to their fans in the end it comes down to GF to decide.
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There are a few things to consider, I think 8th Gen will be on Switch, but I don't know if there will be another game or not.
We will either have a break for a year, meaning no main series game in 2018. We will have another main series game on the 3ds next year, which would be a remake of something. And finally, if they choose to bring out a Switch Game next year, then they need to make sure Nintendo is mass produceing the Switch, because....... I haven't seen a Switch in stores since a week after its release. So, bringing a pokemon game out when there isn't enough consoles is a very bad move. |
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Pokemon Go brought lots of old fans back. Around that time they announced alolan forms for 5 kanto pokemon. Coincidence? No, it's marketing. Honestly, fanservice isn't even what fans want half the time. Fanservice =/= doing everything the way that the fans want. Fanservice is putting features in that will sell. |
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If you want a switch, go to the Walmart in Avon, CO. They had like 6 in the cabinet a few weeks ago, and your situation is anecdotal, and as I said in my first post, supply issues exist, but not a 15m unit shortage. Maybe 1m at most. Its important to remember, the console costs $300 if you are lucky. This is not affordable to a majority of the Nintendo user base, which is the market that the 3DS fulfills. Most people would save the extra $100 and get a brand new, much more robust console from Microsoft or Sony. |
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But amazon ships everywhere in the us, so if u need one there it is in stock. I get your point though |
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I live in Tenn and there is not a single store in a 50 mile radius that has had these for months. Isolated is small areas, when it is an entire state or bigger areas, it isn't isolated. And looking on Amazon, it would seem they are basically already sold out. |
I think that they are. Rumors are that the switch game will come out Holiday 2018.
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Since they announced core series games for the Switch, I think Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will be the last core Pokemon games for the 3DS. I'm not sure if they plan on releasing another spin off like Mystery Dungeon or not.
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Its not a personal issue, the Switch is selling very well, but user adoption will have to rise more before making a switch exclusive main series game feasible. As I said in the original post, I own a switch, and would love to have the game on it, but its just not reasonable yet. 5M sales is on par with another Home console, the PS4, which was plagued with even more massive shortages, as demand was much higher. OP asked if people think this will be the last game on the 3DS. I believe there is at least one more game on the 3DS due to the Switch market not being large enough to support an exclusive title, which I wrote, and backed up with sales data. I already said that my view of supply is anecdotal, but so is everybody else's until Nintendo releases a detailed report on the topic (if they ever do). My point is that switch sales are not high enough to support an exclusive title. Sales are a number of units sold, not number of people that want one. Sales will continue to rise, it is just a question of if they are able to reach a high enough before the development cycle starts. They might release it due to willingness to take a loss, or massive Nintendo funding, but thats a diffeent discussion. Besides, the fact that im seeing many people complain about not owning a switch due to lack of supply only further proves my point that GF has no incentive to develop for the switch exclusively until user count rises, because the fact stands that not enough people have the switch. EDIT: Here is Nintendo's Q2 2017 Earnings Release: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170726e.pdf. Interesting read if you are curious about sales. |
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edit: the neon only has 2 in stock for a major, newly released this year console. and a town with a population of 6,000 having Switches in stock vs the sf bay area with 7 million people with a ton of money not having anything in weeks proves nothing cause you just said it's expensive so the people who would buy it there are less. so I don't get your point at all. |
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Dont strawman my arguement, read the post above if you are confused about my point. :) EDIT: I'm in Denver now and I just called the closest Walmart, who has 2 in stock. I can get you one if you want to pay me a 25% handling fee B) |
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Regardless, there will be enough uptake by the time the next title comes out that none of this is really an issue. A new title would absolutely not come out until at least the holiday season of next year, at which point we could see the sales figures rise to around 30 million or so, if Nintendo's own projections hold true. That's not just enough to launch a main series exclusive game - or set of games - but enough to see pretty massive sales of that game, too. We already know that such a game is in production, and the chance of it being released on multiple Nintendo platforms is really, really low. I love the 3DS line and I advocate for it pretty strongly - on other forums, I've argued that there's no reason to expect that it will be cut off from support in 2018. However, it's been around for over six years now, so it's just about near the end of its life cycle - they're probably not going to keep releasing main series titles on it. Support for it will probably reach end of life status in mid-to-late 2019, so releasing a main series game in 2018 just won't really work all that well. As for the possibility of a multi-platform release, that would really only have worked this year. You have to hit at the right time, in the middle of a transition, like Breath of the Wild did - and we saw that it had to be right at the beginning of the newer console's life span to sell decently cross-platform. It's not something I think Nintendo does all that often, and there's probably a good reason for that! I think we should look at the Switch as an opportunity with this series. While the series has grown and evolved over the years, it became apparent with Sun and Moon that its starting to outgrow the smaller platforms that it has historically occupied - and that's a direct parallel to the handheld consoles kind of being phased out if the hybrid Switch is successful. The series needs more space to showcase its world, and a platform to dive deeper into the storytelling and lore that started to see some really great expansion as the 3DS generations continued. The Switch, as both a home console and a handheld console, is the perfect Pokemon console, and you can bet they'll want to show us what they can do with it! |
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A) More games (Mario Odyssey :p) B) A bundle with more games |
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About the switch not having enough sales:
Consoles are less likely to get lost/broken then handhelds A lot of people buy 2 handhelds, or each member of the family gets one, but they only get 1 console. |
Why do the Switch sales even matter at this point? They're already developing Pokémon Switch, so they're probably content with how the system is doing, otherwise gen 8 would be for 3DS.
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