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Altairis August 19th, 2017 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrhic (Post 9735303)

It's not in stock lmao so is this proving my point or....

edit: the neon only has 2 in stock for a major, newly released this year console. and a town with a population of 6,000 having Switches in stock vs the sf bay area with 7 million people with a ton of money not having anything in weeks proves nothing cause you just said it's expensive so the people who would buy it there are less. so I don't get your point at all.

Phyrrhic August 19th, 2017 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Altairis (Post 9735444)
It's not in stock lmao so is this proving my point or....

lol thats kinda funny, it was in stock for me when I posted. At least I never said demand was low lol.

Dont strawman my arguement, read the post above if you are confused about my point. :)

EDIT: I'm in Denver now and I just called the closest Walmart, who has 2 in stock. I can get you one if you want to pay me a 25% handling fee B)

Desert Stream~ August 19th, 2017 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9735438)
I don't like it. I want GF to do what they want and not what fans want. Imagine everything that every fans want jammed into the game. It becomes a huge mess that the games can't recover from.

luckily for you, that's not how it works. There are deadlines, hardware limitations, and of course, no matter how much fans ask, there are certain features they would never add (For example, they're gonna keep the rating down to E)

pixelani August 19th, 2017 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrhic (Post 9735442)
Beggars can't be choosers, UPS has yet to ruin anything for me. I'm Just trying to justify a point.

Its not a personal issue, the Switch is selling very well, but user adoption will have to rise more before making a switch exclusive main series game feasible. As I said in the original post, I own a switch, and would love to have the game on it, but its just not reasonable yet.

5M sales is on par with another Home console, the PS4, which was plagued with even more massive shortages, as demand was much higher.

OP asked if people think this will be the last game on the 3DS. I believe there is at least one more game on the 3DS due to the Switch market not being large enough to support an exclusive title, which I wrote, and backed up with sales data.

I already said that my view of supply is anecdotal, but so is everybody else's until Nintendo releases a detailed report on the topic (if they ever do).

My point is that switch sales are not high enough to support an exclusive title. Sales are a number of units sold, not number of people that want one. Sales will continue to rise, it is just a question of if they are able to reach a high enough before the development cycle starts. They might release it due to willingness to take a loss, or massive Nintendo funding, but thats a diffeent discussion. Besides, the fact that im seeing many people complain about not owning a switch due to lack of supply only further proves my point that GF has no incentive to develop for the switch exclusively until user count rises, because the fact stands that not enough people have the switch.

EDIT: Here is Nintendo's Q2 2017 Earnings Release: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170726e.pdf. Interesting read if you are curious about sales.

Was demand really all that much higher for the PS4, though? First year sales were a bit under 18.5 million, slightly lower than projected demand for the Switch in its first year.

Regardless, there will be enough uptake by the time the next title comes out that none of this is really an issue. A new title would absolutely not come out until at least the holiday season of next year, at which point we could see the sales figures rise to around 30 million or so, if Nintendo's own projections hold true.

That's not just enough to launch a main series exclusive game - or set of games - but enough to see pretty massive sales of that game, too. We already know that such a game is in production, and the chance of it being released on multiple Nintendo platforms is really, really low. I love the 3DS line and I advocate for it pretty strongly - on other forums, I've argued that there's no reason to expect that it will be cut off from support in 2018. However, it's been around for over six years now, so it's just about near the end of its life cycle - they're probably not going to keep releasing main series titles on it. Support for it will probably reach end of life status in mid-to-late 2019, so releasing a main series game in 2018 just won't really work all that well.

As for the possibility of a multi-platform release, that would really only have worked this year. You have to hit at the right time, in the middle of a transition, like Breath of the Wild did - and we saw that it had to be right at the beginning of the newer console's life span to sell decently cross-platform. It's not something I think Nintendo does all that often, and there's probably a good reason for that!

I think we should look at the Switch as an opportunity with this series. While the series has grown and evolved over the years, it became apparent with Sun and Moon that its starting to outgrow the smaller platforms that it has historically occupied - and that's a direct parallel to the handheld consoles kind of being phased out if the hybrid Switch is successful. The series needs more space to showcase its world, and a platform to dive deeper into the storytelling and lore that started to see some really great expansion as the 3DS generations continued. The Switch, as both a home console and a handheld console, is the perfect Pokemon console, and you can bet they'll want to show us what they can do with it!

Desert Stream~ August 19th, 2017 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Phyrrhic (Post 9735445)
lol thats kinda funny, it was in stock for me when I posted. At least I never said demand was low lol.

Dont strawman my arguement, read the post above if you are confused about my point. :)

EDIT: I'm in Denver now and I just called the closest Walmart, who has 2 in stock. I can get you one if you want to pay me a 25% handling fee B)

A lot of people are also waiting for either:

A) More games (Mario Odyssey :p)
B) A bundle with more games

Alexander18 August 19th, 2017 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDKIP!!! (Post 9735484)
luckily for you, that's not how it works. There are deadlines, hardware limitations, and of course, no matter how much fans ask, there are certain features they would never add (For example, they're gonna keep the rating down to E)

Don't tell me how it works. I refuse to believe fanservice plays apart. Agree to disagree and move on already.

Desert Stream~ August 20th, 2017 8:21 AM

About the switch not having enough sales:
Consoles are less likely to get lost/broken then handhelds
A lot of people buy 2 handhelds, or each member of the family gets one, but they only get 1 console.

clbgolden August 20th, 2017 8:39 AM

Why do the Switch sales even matter at this point? They're already developing Pokémon Switch, so they're probably content with how the system is doing, otherwise gen 8 would be for 3DS.


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