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Hikamaru August 19th, 2017 7:49 PM

The Great Big Trial Speculation Thread
 
Considering the reveal of the Photo Club seems to have killed off the likeliness of Gyms coming to Alola, I guess I can say Trials will be back in US/UM and so that's where I figured we should speculate about what could happen with the trials in US/UM.

What new locations do you want trials to be held at? What new Totem Pokemon do you want to see? What tasks would you like to do in the trials? What new Trial Captains and Kahunas do you want to see?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 19th, 2017 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9735596)
Considering the reveal of the Photo Club seems to have killed off the likeliness of Gyms coming to Alola, I guess I can say Trials will be back in US/UM and so that's where I figured we should speculate about what could happen with the trials in US/UM.

What new locations do you want trials to be held at? What new Totem Pokemon do you want to see? What tasks would you like to do in the trials? What new Trial Captains and Kahunas do you want to see?

I think that they'll largely stay the same for the most part. I do think that Kommo'o will be using its new Z move.

Hikamaru August 19th, 2017 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9735601)
I think that they'll largely stay the same for the most part. I do think that Kommo'o will be using its new Z move.

I can understand where you're coming from, but I personally do think some new trials would freshen things up because if the game is too samey to S/M, people would be annoyed.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 19th, 2017 8:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9735608)
I can understand where you're coming from, but I personally do think some new trials would freshen things up because if the game is too samey to S/M, people would be annoyed.

I can see them tweaking the way some of them work, but other than that, not much difference. Basically I expect the differences to be akin to those between Gyms in the original pairs versus their third version counterparts.

Alexander18 August 19th, 2017 8:41 PM

I want Ryuki as trial captain. Kommo-o remaining a totem pokemon.

Desert Stream~ August 19th, 2017 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander18 (Post 9735617)
I want Ryuki as trial captain. Kommo-o remaining a totem pokemon.

I could possibly see this happening tbh, but it would have to be the last trial which might be interesting because it's not supposed to have a captain, but who knows in USUM?

thedestinedblade August 19th, 2017 9:29 PM

Well, for starters, how about giving Mina a trial this time?

riddlemeree August 19th, 2017 11:12 PM

Trials are definitely getting more content, because if they were all the exact same the Pokemon fans would be gathering pitchforks and torches. Potential Trial Pokemon were showcased in the first trailer, and Kahili was given focus in the more recent one. Mina was teased in SM already.

I personally hope all of them are a bit more difficult (the Lurantis one was nice, but the Kommo-o one was a bit of a joke), and maybe bumping the captains up a little nudge. But I'm a sucker for difficult stuff, so that's just me :P.

blue August 20th, 2017 3:17 AM

Ryuki as a Trial Captain seems likely as we saw him feature in the trailer, and that would mean we get a proper Dragon trial which I'd be cool with! If Mina doesn't get a more fleshed out trial then I really hope she makes it somewhere as an E4 member or something. As for Kahili, she was showing off a Z-move which means she could be one of the Kahunas? If she is one of the Kahunas then this could still mean her later showing up at the Elite Four giving her more of a role in the storyline outside of the E4 which she should have imo.

Hikamaru August 20th, 2017 4:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9735756)
Ryuki as a Trial Captain seems likely as we saw him feature in the trailer, and that would mean we get a proper Dragon trial which I'd be cool with! If Mina doesn't get a more fleshed out trial then I really hope she makes it somewhere as an E4 member or something. As for Kahili, she was showing off a Z-move which means she could be one of the Kahunas? If she is one of the Kahunas then this could still mean her later showing up at the Elite Four giving her more of a role in the storyline outside of the E4 which she should have imo.

I could see Kahili becoming a Kahuna, especially since she is a strong trainer but also too old to be a Trial Captain since they are aged in their teens and have to retire from the role at the age of 20, as dialogue from Mallow in Moon stated.

Ryuki looks like someone I'd like to see as a Trial Captain, since we did have that Totem Kommo-o running wild because of no Trial Captain overseeing it. It would make sense if that Trial Captain turned out to be him.

clbgolden August 20th, 2017 4:43 AM

I would say Kahili, but there is that thing about Trial Captains retiring at 20... But maybe she's younger/right at that age?

If she is a captain, then I'm certain her Trial would be at Ten Carat Hill since she's seen preparing to do a Z-Move dance in what looks like a cave, and Ten Carat Hill is where you find Flynium Z.

Altairis August 20th, 2017 9:22 AM

just saying if there are any incomplete trials like in SM I'm going to be really, really disappointed. I thought that was extremely lazy of the developers (the Dragon trial and the random Fairy trial captain for no reason) and I hope it does not appear again.

pixelani August 20th, 2017 9:29 AM

I don't think there's any reason to conclude Ryuki, who is explicitly stated to be a visitor from another region, will be a Trial Captain just because he showed up in the trailer, first of all. Same with Kahili; note that we've never had an Elite Four member demoted, and she was introduced as one rather than being promoted from Trial Captain during the game. Her age is also an issue.

Second, I'd like to point out that the trials are one of the main elements of the game - only changing them a little bit would start to defeat the purpose of making new games in the first place. Like the story, expect them to change.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 20th, 2017 9:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9735756)
Ryuki as a Trial Captain seems likely as we saw him feature in the trailer, and that would mean we get a proper Dragon trial which I'd be cool with! If Mina doesn't get a more fleshed out trial then I really hope she makes it somewhere as an E4 member or something. As for Kahili, she was showing off a Z-move which means she could be one of the Kahunas? If she is one of the Kahunas then this could still mean her later showing up at the Elite Four giving her more of a role in the storyline outside of the E4 which she should have imo.

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9735775)
I could see Kahili becoming a Kahuna, especially since she is a strong trainer but also too old to be a Trial Captain since they are aged in their teens and have to retire from the role at the age of 20, as dialogue from Mallow in Moon stated.

Ryuki looks like someone I'd like to see as a Trial Captain, since we did have that Totem Kommo-o running wild because of no Trial Captain overseeing it. It would make sense if that Trial Captain turned out to be him.

Maybe Nanu stepped aside and Tapu Bulu ended up choosing Kahili as his replacement.

Hikamaru August 20th, 2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire (Post 9736335)
Maybe Nanu stepped aside and Tapu Bulu ended up choosing Kahili as his replacement.

If I remember correctly, during the Elite Four battles Kahili wears the same Z-Ring as Olivia, which likely means she's from Akala Island. I think the only notable Ula'ula resident I could see being a Kahuna would be Molayne or Acerola, since I probably think Sophocles might still be doing the Mount Hokulani trial duties.

Desert Stream~ August 21st, 2017 6:08 AM

Maybe kahili just happens to have one. I mean, you have one, and you're not a kahuna.

Hikamaru August 21st, 2017 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDKIP!!! (Post 9736526)
Maybe kahili just happens to have one. I mean, you have one, and you're not a kahuna.

The protagonist was recognised by Tapu Koko due to his/her saving Cosmog from the Spearow attack. And heck, that was even before he/she became a trainer.

Desert Stream~ August 21st, 2017 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9736767)
The protagonist was recognised by Tapu Koko due to his/her saving Cosmog from the Spearow attack. And heck, that was even before he/she became a trainer.

Well then, couldn't Kahili have gone through a similar process?

Hikamaru August 21st, 2017 3:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MUDKIP!!! (Post 9736785)
Well then, couldn't Kahili have gone through a similar process?

The protagonist's recognition was due to an act of heroism. Most of the non-Kahuna characters who got Z-Rings don't seem to look like they were recognised for being a hero.

Desert Stream~ August 21st, 2017 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9736787)
The protagonist's recognition was due to an act of heroism. Most of the non-Kahuna characters who got Z-Rings don't seem to look like they were recognised for being a hero.

Hmm this is hard to research as I can't seem to find an accurate list of people with Z rings, but I seem to remember an old man holding Kahili in high regard?
Could just be because she's good at golf :p

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire August 23rd, 2017 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9736787)
The protagonist's recognition was due to an act of heroism. Most of the non-Kahuna characters who got Z-Rings don't seem to look like they were recognised for being a hero.

See, she can still have one. I mean, Hau, Gladion, Kakui, and even a few non-main NPCs have them. Plus, Kahili was mentioned to have passed the island trial before, and that she was given the position of E4 in the original Sun and Moon must make her someone who can surely impress the Tapus.

WingsofBliss August 24th, 2017 2:07 AM

TPC just released a clip of the player encountering Hiker Dave at the Wela Volcano trial site instead of Kiawe.

Altairis August 24th, 2017 9:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WingsofBliss (Post 9738286)
TPC just released a clip of the player encountering Hiker Dave at the Wela Volcano trial site instead of Kiawe.

inb4 someone says hiker dave is the new trial captain just because he's there lol

wouldn't assume anything until we can see the video (not sure why you didnt post it :() with text. could just be for the Best Hiker thing Japan was doing, could be because you find him on the mountain and he says "Oh Kiawe's not here yet go find him at x" or anything else

edit here it is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xh89YdElp7o


no trial gate or anything, so it doesn't even look like there's a trial here at all.
BTW he just says "Alola! Sate, watashi wa dare deshou?" Which is "Alola! Now who am I exactly?" Or something like that.

Hikamaru August 24th, 2017 12:29 PM

So I guess it looks like that it's confirmed will be new trials now that Kiawe appears to have stepped away from being a Trial Captain.

I'm guessing maybe he's been promoted to Elite Four, Kahuna, or is neither and just doing something else.

FireSnow August 24th, 2017 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9738586)
So I guess it looks like that it's confirmed will be new trials now that Kiawe appears to have stepped away from being a Trial Captain.

I'm guessing maybe he's been promoted to Elite Four, Kahuna, or is neither and just doing something else.

I get the feeling that Kiawe will be more important, it'd be a bit strange to just demote him down to being nothing. Kahuna could be possible since Olivia is now E4 (hope I have these islands correct lol)

Very much hoping theres an Ice type trial but that's of course unlikely since the League is at the only place a trial like that could happen.

Also, with Hala being E4, does this mean Hau could be the new Melemele Kahuna?


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