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Sirfetch’d September 4th, 2017 5:33 PM

September 2017 tier shifts
 
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Gardevoir-Mega moved from OU to UU
Jirachi moved from OU to UU
Machamp moved from NU to RU
Banette-Mega moved from UU to RU
Moltres moved from BL3 to RU
Kingdra moved from BL3 to OU
Nihilego moved from OU to UU
Mantine moved from RU to UU
Gallade-Mega moved from OU to UU
Tornadus moved from UU to RU
Hawlucha moved from UU to OU
Ampharos-Mega moved from OU to UU
Latias-Mega moved from OU to UU
Manaphy moved from BL to OU
Heracross-Mega moved from OU to UU
Drapion moved from NU to RU
Abomasnow-Mega moved from UU to RU
Decidueye moved from UU to RU
Meloetta moved from BL3 to RU
Dragonite moved from BL to OU
Absol-Mega moved from UU to RU
Altaria-Mega moved from OU to UU
Ninetales-Alola moved from UU to OU
Quagsire moved from NU to RU
Froslass moved from RU to NU
Smeargle moved from OU to UU
Manectric-Mega moved from OU to UU
Camerupt-Mega moved from UU to RU
Heracross moved from BL2 to UU
Nidoqueen moved from UU to RU
Audino-Mega moved from RU to NU
Hoopa-Unbound moved from OU to UU
Rotom-Wash moved from OU to UU
Tsareena moved from UU to RU
Zygarde-10% moved from UU to RU
What is everyone's thoughts on these? Obviously UU is going to be MASSIVELY different with mons such as Mega Manectric and Gardevoir, Hoopa-U, Nihilego, and Rotom-W entering the tier. While some of these will likely be banned, the tier should be completely different as of now.

Sirfetch’d September 4th, 2017 6:35 PM

Hoopa U, Mega Heracross, and Mega Gallade have been quickbanned from UU.

Zygarde and Mega Absol have been quickbanned from RU.

jombii September 4th, 2017 7:46 PM

oh look A-Ninetales in OU again. Aurora Veil will be frequent once again.

Also, Hawlucha?

noa September 4th, 2017 8:07 PM

Hawlucha deserves it, I absolutely love that bird.

Mobile Tsk September 5th, 2017 4:28 AM

It's crazy how something that was niche last gen like terrain can move a mon like Hawlucha into the spotlight. Kingdra was a bit shocking to me, but I guess it shouldn't have been since it's the second best Swift Swim mon after Swampert. Ninetales-A will now be really good, as it totally destroys every relevant rain mon, sets hail/AV and can beat some more uncommon answers to the HO teams it sets up for like Quagsire.

I love OU right now because it is gravitating away from the concentrated, vile stall that was popular in the very beginning (Dugtrio + Chansey + Clefable + Toxapex + Skarmory + filler mon). UU on the other hand...


No surprise to see Tsareena and Decidueye drop. Tsareena is great for role compression, which makes me think it will remain a niche choice on UU teams, but the speed hurts it too much and it can rarely use its great Attack stat. Nidoqueen and Jirachi are surprising to me.

Nah September 5th, 2017 4:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Home (Post 9745933)
Also, Hawlucha?

Tsk sort of briefly touched on it, but basically Hawlucha became much more threatening this gen thanks to the introduction of Tapus+terrain activated seed items. You can both nab a Def or SpDef boost and trigger Unburden simply by switching it in on the appropriate terrain, making it easier to set-up with Swords Dance/Bulk Up. Flying/Fighting is a pretty good offensive type combo, plus you get Arcobatics, which benefits from the whole Unburden+terrain seed thing.

It's a pretty good sweeper really, though I guess it took people (including myself I guess) a while to catch on.

gimmepie September 6th, 2017 3:31 AM

I have a team I sometimes use that makes use of Hawlucha and Electric Seed. I have to say that whilst it's beastly once it sets up Swords Dance with Unburden, it's still very fragile even after you boost its Def/Sp. Def and situational too. I'm surprised to see it move up to OU and expect it will likely drop back to UU soon enough.

Zeffy September 6th, 2017 5:07 AM

what is a hawlucha...

VoltYellow September 6th, 2017 7:21 AM

Good to see Hawlucha in OU but Rotom-Wash . . . .
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Pinkie-Dawn September 6th, 2017 10:56 AM

All of these tier shifts makes me wish Smogon should've increased the number of Pokemon for each tier besides NU and PU, so OU wouldn't restrict only around 50 Pokemon in its tier (as well as to prevent any impressions from people new to the competitive community that any Pokemon below OU is terrible).


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