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HeroLinik September 22nd, 2017 10:50 AM

New Totem Pokemon confirmed: Totem Marowak!
 
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Looks like Totem Salazzle will be taking a rest on the bench while a new totem will be taking her place: Totem Marowak! What do you think about the change? Personally, I would have preferred Salazzle, unless somehow Marowak is holding a Thick Club. And also, the totem aura it gives out will raise its speed by 2, which could make this thing a bit of a challenge.

PlatinumDude September 22nd, 2017 12:00 PM

Totem Salazzle was a complete joke in both of my playthroughs of Sun/Moon. I have high hopes of Totem Marowak being a challenge with a Thick Club and the +2 Speed.

clbgolden September 22nd, 2017 12:12 PM

I’m actually glad they replaced Salazzle with Lurantis. Kiawe’s trial lacked in numerous places, and challenge was one them. T-Salazzle was probably one of the easiest Totems, so hopefully Marowak will be harder (especially if it has Thick Club).

blue September 22nd, 2017 1:29 PM

Glad of this change, would've been boring to keep all of the same Totem Pokémon. I wonder what Totem Pokémon will be at the end of Mina's trial, Comfey perhaps?

Hikamaru September 22nd, 2017 2:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue (Post 9759628)
Glad of this change, would've been boring to keep all of the same Totem Pokémon. I wonder what Totem Pokémon will be at the end of Mina's trial, Comfey perhaps?

I do admit Marowak as a Totem seems to be better than Salazzle, at least to me.

I could see Ribombee probably being Mina's Totem since it was her ace Pokemon (since it was her Z-Move user) when you battled her in the postgame of S/M.

Desert Stream~ September 22nd, 2017 4:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759657)
I do admit Marowak as a Totem seems to be better than Salazzle, at least to me.

I could see Ribombee probably being Mina's Totem since it was her ace Pokemon (since it was her Z-Move user) when you battled her in the postgame of S/M.

I approve of totem ribombee.

Somewhere_ September 22nd, 2017 6:04 PM

Im glad they aren't just recycling the same totem pokemon, and I think (hope) Totom Marowak will be harder than Totem Salazzle. Totem Salazzle was a joke if you had a water type.

Hikamaru September 22nd, 2017 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BadSheep (Post 9759804)
Im glad they aren't just recycling the same totem pokemon, and I think (hope) Totom Marowak will be harder than Totem Salazzle. Totem Salazzle was a joke if you had a water type.

Salazzle was even more of a joke if you had a Mudbray, since Salazzle was 4x weak to Ground.

I will be intrigued to see which of Marowak's stats will get boosted from the Totem aura. My guess is probably Defense or Sp. Defense since it may still be early on.

Somewhere_ September 22nd, 2017 9:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759922)
Salazzle was even more of a joke if you had a Mudbray, since Salazzle was 4x weak to Ground.

I will be intrigued to see which of Marowak's stats will get boosted from the Totem aura. My guess is probably Defense or Sp. Defense since it may still be early on.

if it has speed, it will definitely be very difficult to defeat because, as you mentioned, it will be an early-game totem. It would out speed most things and because its fully evolved, it will have an advantage there. So probably defense or special defense to make it slightly more passive.

Hikamaru September 22nd, 2017 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BadSheep (Post 9759934)
if it has speed, it will definitely be very difficult to defeat because, as you mentioned, it will be an early-game totem. It would out speed most things and because its fully evolved, it will have an advantage there. So probably defense or special defense to make it slightly more passive.

As we saw with the infamous Totem Lurantis, having a Speed-boosting Totem Aura was definitely a dick move on GF's part, because that Lurantis had powerful moves, tough allies and outsped literally your whole team. I mean, I heard of that thing even outspeeding a Crobat, which is supposed to be one of the fastest Pokemon in existence.

It makes sense early-game ones only have a defensive stat affected, since Gumshoos/Raticate and Wishiwashi had a +1 Defense boost. And even then, the Normal-type totem was easy to beat with a Makuhita and Brick Break TM.

Somewhere_ September 22nd, 2017 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759944)
As we saw with the infamous Totem Lurantis, having a Speed-boosting Totem Aura was definitely a dick move on GF's part, because that Lurantis had powerful moves, tough allies and outsped literally your whole team. I mean, I heard of that thing even outspeeding a Crobat, which is supposed to be one of the fastest Pokemon in existence.

Totem Lurantis was definitely very difficult for me. I forget how I beat it, but I enjoyed the challenge for sure. Perhaps a dick move, but it made the game harder in my opinion. which is definitely a necessity.

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759944)
It makes sense early-game ones only have a defensive stat affected, since Gumshoos/Raticate and Wishiwashi had a +1 Defense boost. And even then, the Normal-type totem was easy to beat with a Makuhita and Brick Break TM.

Although the +1 defense boost on Wishiwashi made it harder to beat because of helping hand and aqua ring support

Yea the normal-type totem was easy, even without the Makuhita. But I think thats intentional and probably good. It allows players to get accustomed to the game.

L'Belle September 22nd, 2017 10:38 PM

Seems cool! Gives the game more of a BW2-esque vibe. The closer it is to those games, the better.

LilyGardy September 22nd, 2017 11:42 PM

Alolan Marowak sounds like a good totem but Salazzle was pretty cool too.

I hope Mallow's totem is changed to Tsareena but feel it may stay the same.

Easiest Totem for me was Wishiwashi. I beat it with an adorable Petilil.

For a hard Totem they could have Totem Salamence if the Dragon user has one. It will be tricky especially if Ice types are unavailable at that point.

HeroLinik September 23rd, 2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759657)
I could see Ribombee probably being Mina's Totem since it was her ace Pokemon (since it was her Z-Move user) when you battled her in the postgame of S/M.

That's...unlikely, to say the least. Saying that Ribombee will be Mina's totem is like saying that Araquanid would be Lana's totem, Palossand would be Acerola's totem and Smeargle would be Ilima's totem, when the truth is none of the totems were actually used on their teams (well, Ilima's totem was Gumshoos in Sun, but his team had Yungoos on it). If anything, I would most likely expect something like a Totem Comfey or something, or even possibly a Totem Mawile.

PlatinumDude September 23rd, 2017 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759922)
Salazzle was even more of a joke if you had a Mudbray, since Salazzle was 4x weak to Ground.

I will be intrigued to see which of Marowak's stats will get boosted from the Totem aura. My guess is probably Defense or Sp. Defense since it may still be early on.

An image from the official Ultra Sun/Moon website confirms that Marowak's Totem boost is +2 Speed.

Hikamaru September 23rd, 2017 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 9760013)
An image from the official Ultra Sun/Moon website confirms that Marowak's Totem boost is +2 Speed.

+2 Speed?

Oh god, it's the new Totem Lurantis guys!

Hikamaru September 23rd, 2017 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HeroLinik (Post 9759997)
That's...unlikely, to say the least. Saying that Ribombee will be Mina's totem is like saying that Araquanid would be Lana's totem, Palossand would be Acerola's totem and Smeargle would be Ilima's totem, when the truth is none of the totems were actually used on their teams (well, Ilima's totem was Gumshoos in Sun, but his team had Yungoos on it). If anything, I would most likely expect something like a Totem Comfey or something, or even possibly a Totem Mawile.

I feel the Totem always seem to be either a 7th Gen Pokemon or Alola Form, so that would definitely rule Mawile out.

Sabrewulf238 September 24th, 2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 9759558)
Totem Salazzle was a complete joke in both of my playthroughs of Sun/Moon. I have high hopes of Totem Marowak being a challenge with a Thick Club and the +2 Speed.

It probably depends on your team, but totem Salazzle got utterly destroyed by my Mudbray in my playthrough. Definitely the easiest totem battle.

Hikamaru September 24th, 2017 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabrewulf238 (Post 9761400)
It probably depends on your team, but totem Salazzle got utterly destroyed by my Mudbray in my playthrough. Definitely the easiest totem battle.

Totem Kommo-o is also a joke if you have a powerful Fairy-type such as Primarina. That was what happened, one Moonblast and that thing was down.

Charlie Brown September 24th, 2017 10:36 PM

Well of course a Totem Pokemon will be a joke if you use a move that's 4x super effective to it @everyone saying that about Totem Salazzle and Kommo-o. That's always been the case with Gym Leader Pokemon etc, don't see why that's anything to write home about.

Sabrewulf238 September 25th, 2017 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9761415)
Totem Kommo-o is also a joke if you have a powerful Fairy-type such as Primarina. That was what happened, one Moonblast and that thing was down.

Oh yeah, my Ribombee made short work of Kommo-o too.

It's funny to imagine such a little thing destroying Kommo-o.

Fleshmom September 25th, 2017 3:55 AM

I don't think that the change will have too much of an impact.

L'Belle September 25th, 2017 5:47 AM

Hopefully it will be more of a challenge!

Palamon September 25th, 2017 5:06 PM

Eh.

I'm just happy Mina's a proper trial captain now, you know? Maybe she'll have an art-like trial like she mentioned at the end of S/M.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire September 25th, 2017 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9759922)
Salazzle was even more of a joke if you had a Mudbray, since Salazzle was 4x weak to Ground.

I will be intrigued to see which of Marowak's stats will get boosted from the Totem aura. My guess is probably Defense or Sp. Defense since it may still be early on.

For sure. I used my Mudbray to defeat it easily for that same reason.


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