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strangerhypno October 10th, 2017 9:20 AM

So no new Alolan forms huh?
 
That's disappointing.

Flowerchild October 10th, 2017 10:52 AM

It is, yeah. I was hype for some Johto Alolan mons to accompany the GSC re-release.

thedestinedblade October 10th, 2017 11:39 AM

Doesn't look like it. They were my biggest want so there goes a lot of my hype. It's just a concept with a ton of potential!

Pinkie-Dawn October 10th, 2017 12:57 PM

It's too early to say, remember that we get 2 reveals per month, so wait until the second half of October.

Hikamaru October 10th, 2017 1:43 PM

It's a shame, because I wanted some new Alola Forms.

But of course Game Freak are confirmed to be nothing but Genwunners.

Ducolamia October 10th, 2017 4:23 PM

Is this confirmed????

To be fair, some of the Pokemon we found out about weren't released beforehand so I suppose Gamefreak could be holding back. It's not like they've never done that before.

It's honestly too early to say and I'd rather be surprised than overexposed.

Somewhere_ October 10th, 2017 4:32 PM

I'm still holding out hope for new Alolan forms, but my hope is diminishing with each leak. At least everything else seems awesome and has a lot of potential!

Zeiro October 10th, 2017 11:49 PM

I would say it looks that way unfortunately, but my fingers are still crossed! :D

colours October 11th, 2017 12:55 AM

to be completely honest, was there any evidence at all or even anything that hinted towards more alola forms?

don't get me wrong, i'd love for there to be more alola forms as much as the next person, but it kinda seemed unlikely

then again, game freak can always surprise us nearly the end of the month with Johto Alola forms, so who knows really. I'm in the "it's too early to say" camp until then.

Kikaito plush October 11th, 2017 3:09 AM

Platinum or B2 W2 add new pokemon.... part from formes of the box legends and shaymin/Rotom no new pokemon.

pryce10 October 11th, 2017 5:03 AM

did GF officially say no Alolan forms?

Sawsbuck October 11th, 2017 6:36 AM

It's a real shame because we totally need this

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yC_RcDjW4BE/maxresdefault.jpg

Damien.aspiring.fandev October 11th, 2017 8:01 AM

My fellows, I searched but couldn't find any confirm in regard.
We have no clue whether we'll get new regional variants or not,
however a few more variants are still a possibility:
if I'm not mistaken, a few Alolan forms were planned but didn't
make it to Sun & Moon, so there's still hope.
Oh wait, somebody else already pointed that!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducolamia
To be fair, some of the Pokemon we found out about weren't released beforehand so I suppose Gamefreak could be holding back.

And even if they don't make it to the upcoming games, there's
still possibilities for the future.
One day we might as well get a "mega flygon", which was planned
but then scrapped due to an idea block(or, this is what I've heard
in a videogram anyway).
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducolamia
It's not like they've never done that before.

Indeed! Quite a remarkable quantity of pokémon were planned for the
first generation games, didn't make it and were made available in the following
generation.

Pinkie-Dawn October 11th, 2017 8:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien.aspiring.fandev (Post 9772397)
My fellows, I searched but couldn't find any confirm in regard.
We have no clue whether we'll get new regional variants or not,
however a few more variants are still a possibility:
if I'm not mistaken, a few Alolan forms were planned but didn't
make it to Sun & Moon, so there's still hope.
Oh wait, somebody else already pointed that!

There was a tweet by Masuda that confirmed new Alolan forms, but it was quickly deleted. /vp/ managed to screencap it, but the thread containing that screencap is archived.

Quote:

But of course Game Freak are confirmed to be nothing but Genwunners.
The only thing just as bad as Genwunners is people complaining about Genwunners, and who said Game Freak are Genwunners?

Damien.aspiring.fandev October 11th, 2017 8:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9772404)
There was a tweet by Masuda that confirmed new Alolan forms, but it was quickly deleted.

Uh-uh-uh! The tweet was deleted, but the chap himself didn't deny either!
So, that could be a "nope" but it could also mean that something's boiling in the
pot and Mr. Masuda had a second though about it, thinking it would've been better
not to spoil it... right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9772404)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru
But of course Game Freak are confirmed to be nothing but Genwunners.

The only thing just as bad as Genwunners is people complaining about Genwunners, and who said Game Freak are Genwunners?

Whoa, chill out fellows! Before the fire starts, perhaps we could try clarifying
the thing in a... calmer way? Hikamaru, what did you exactly mean while claiming
that the Game Freak members are genwunners?

Rivvon October 11th, 2017 8:59 AM

There's still time for them to reveal any, but I will admit if we get none it will be extremely odd. It already felt like there weren't a lot of Alola forms as it was, but with an expanded Pokédex, the low number of Alola forms is really going to stand out.

I can understand and appreciate why they added new UBs, but in all honesty I'd rather have had new (non gen 1) Alola forms instead of new UBs.

Mister Coffee October 11th, 2017 9:02 AM

I think there still might be a possibility of there being new alolan forms for USM that just haven't been revealed yet. You can't really say they're not going to happen until the game is actually released with the facts right in front of us. It could just be that Game Freak just wants to really surprise us by leaving it as a last minute spoiler or they (like a normal video game company) want to keep it as a surprise to be discovered within the game.
The Alolan forms just seem like a major feature for generation seven and it would seem extremely strange for there not to be any more in the third game of generation seven.

I will however say this right now though, if there are in fact no new Alolan Forms added to the game upon USM's release, then by that point I will be legitimately disappointed because then, with only the small number of Alolan Forms introduced in Su/Mo, and none in USM, then what was the point in the first place? I have hope they will add more and we just wont know until the game is available. It seems silly to not add more Alola Forms in USM.

Hikamaru October 11th, 2017 3:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien.aspiring.fandev (Post 9772409)
Whoa, chill out fellows! Before the fire starts, perhaps we could try clarifying
the thing in a... calmer way? Hikamaru, what did you exactly mean while claiming
that the Game Freak members are genwunners?

Because all the Alola Forms are Kanto Pokemon, and while I feel it was done for anniversary stuff it does make me wonder if Game Freak only care about promoting Kanto.

Rivvon October 11th, 2017 4:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9772582)
Because all the Alola Forms are Kanto Pokemon, and while I feel it was done for anniversary stuff it does make me wonder if Game Freak only care about promoting Kanto.

The species-specific Z-Moves are also either for gen 1 or all-new (gen 7) Pokémon. The new Z-Moves we've seen are for gen 7 Pokémon, but we haven't seen any for gens 2-6. This is not as bad since gen 1-4 Pokémon got a sizable number of Megas, but Alolan forms really needed to have been inclusive of other gens from the get-go.

Hikamaru October 11th, 2017 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivvon (Post 9772620)
The species-specific Z-Moves are also either for gen 1 or all-new (gen 7) Pokémon. The new Z-Moves we've seen are for gen 7 Pokémon, but we haven't seen any for gens 2-6. This is not as bad since gen 1-4 Pokémon got a sizable number of Megas, but Alolan forms really needed to have been inclusive of other gens from the get-go.

I think it's definitely why Kanto and Alola Pokemon had the most representatives in the Alola Dex. Game Freak seems to only want to market the newest generation as well as the ones that started everything.

Somewhere_ October 11th, 2017 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9772666)
I think it's definitely why Kanto and Alola Pokemon had the most representatives in the Alola Dex. Game Freak seems to only want to market the newest generation as well as the ones that started everything.

old pokemon = attracting older players
new pokemon = attracting newer players

At a business standpoint, I suppose it make sense. I dont mind there being only Kanto pokemon with Alolan forms, but I would like to see more regardless of what generation they come from.

Hikamaru October 11th, 2017 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadSheep (Post 9772753)
old pokemon = attracting older players
new pokemon = attracting newer players

At a business standpoint, I suppose it make sense. I dont mind there being only Kanto pokemon with Alolan forms, but I would like to see more regardless of what generation they come from.

At least Mega Evolutions actually cared about other generations.

Pinkie-Dawn October 12th, 2017 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikamaru (Post 9772805)
At least Mega Evolutions actually cared about other generations.

Except for Gen V, which got only one Mega Evolution. Besides, it also prevents Gen I Pokemon from becoming outclassed/obsolete from the constant power creep going on with newer Pokemon.

meshiura October 12th, 2017 8:05 AM

Alolan mons to accompany the GSC re-release.

Hikamaru October 12th, 2017 8:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn (Post 9773000)
Except for Gen V, which got only one Mega Evolution. Besides, it also prevents Gen I Pokemon from becoming outclassed/obsolete from the constant power creep going on with newer Pokemon.

And even then, said only 5th Gen Mega is more defensive than offensive.


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