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BirdstarCat13 July 15th, 2018 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DizzyEgg (Post 9900900)
Sorry man, but you're simply wrong. Fire Red's research is nothing compared to how much pokeruby and pokeemerald are documented.

That doesn't make sense and is blatantly the opposite of the truth. If there were more documentation on Emerald then it'd be used as the definitive hacking version, not FR, which most tools are made for, because of the documentation.

Delta231 July 15th, 2018 3:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdstarCat13 (Post 9901139)
That doesn't make sense and is blatantly the opposite of the truth. If there were more documentation on Emerald then it'd be used as the definitive hacking version, not FR, which most tools are made for, because of the documentation.

Well, I agree with DizzyEgg, right now Emerald and Ruby are most documented than Fire Red because we have their source code for them. (Ruby 94.5% and Emerald 54%).

You may wanna check out these links:

https://github.com/pret/pokeruby

https://github.com/pret/pokeemerald

Having the source code is more better than hacking with tools and don't worry PokeFireRed will come out soon eventually i.e 100% disassembled and documented.

Hope that clears it! :smile:

Blah July 15th, 2018 6:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdstarCat13 (Post 9901139)
That doesn't make sense and is blatantly the opposite of the truth. If there were more documentation on Emerald then it'd be used as the definitive hacking version, not FR, which most tools are made for, because of the documentation.

Yeah, back when those tools were made, this was the case.

Right now though, having source code helps a bit more compared to an idb interms of increasing your understanding of the code and how it works. Sometimes when I was doing something on FR, I've looked at the EM decomps to find the same file because it's just easier than reverse engineering the code yourself. As someone who has a hard time reading code, one would probably prefer text documentation though.

BirdstarCat13 July 15th, 2018 7:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta231 (Post 9901164)
Well, I agree with DizzyEgg, right now Emerald and Ruby are most documented than Fire Red because we have their source code for them. (Ruby 94.5% and Emerald 54%).

Hope that clears it! :smile:

Kind of irrelevant to my argument TBH. Even before the other disassemblies, FireRed was always easier to hack because it had more bases and tools to work with, making it more fun and better to use.

DizzyEgg July 15th, 2018 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdstarCat13 (Post 9901222)
Kind of irrelevant to my argument TBH. Even before the other disassemblies, FireRed was always easier to hack because it had more bases and tools to work with, making it more fun and better to use.

It has not been the case since 2015 or even earlier. The days of FR are gone mate.

BirdstarCat13 July 16th, 2018 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DizzyEgg (Post 9901387)
It has not been the case since 2015 or even earlier. The days of FR are gone mate.

In popularity, maybe, but the tools for FR outnumber the tools for Emerald by far. Unless you use the disassembly (which virtually requires you to know C) Emerald is notably more difficult.

lilbluedemon July 16th, 2018 6:29 PM

I've only ever used Fire Red.

But, i've been messing around with pokeemerald in the last day or so.
And produced the screenshots in my signature.
And all the graphics I've inserted. It's been far easier to do, than anything I've done with FR.
(especially the Trainer Sprites).

BirdstarCat13 July 16th, 2018 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lilbluedemon (Post 9901667)
I've only ever used Fire Red.

But, i've been messing around with pokeemerald in the last day or so.
And produced the screenshots in my signature.
And all the graphics I've inserted. It's been far easier to do, than anything I've done with FR.
(especially the Trainer Sprites).

Finally a gen 3 game where I can have an early Furret :heart_eyes:

hjk321 July 17th, 2018 9:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta231 (Post 9901164)
more better

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