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Devalue May 5th, 2022 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10499920)
I've collected a few I think are most likely hacks through Surprise Trade in Sword:

(Disclaimer: Not an official hack checker.)

Tosses all of those shinies in the Hacked bin. Originates from website trainers. Might have gotten some dsc ones in Alola's Wonder Trade.

Considers Beast Ball Wooloo entirely reasonable. Could have bought one Beast Ball (or used a free one), then chucked it at a Max Raid Wooloo or Dubwool. Should be a 100% catch rate for your own Max Raid (and non-event/Gigantamax). Passes the ball on through breeding from there.

Amore May 7th, 2022 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devalue (Post 10499994)
(Disclaimer: Not an official hack checker.)

Tosses all of those shinies in the Hacked bin. Originates from website trainers. Might have gotten some dsc ones in Alola's Wonder Trade.

Considers Beast Ball Wooloo entirely reasonable. Could have bought one Beast Ball (or used a free one), then chucked it at a Max Raid Wooloo or Dubwool. Should be a 100% catch rate for your own Max Raid (and non-event/Gigantamax). Passes the ball on through breeding from there.

I didn’t know about the 100% capture for raids until after I posted, so that makes sense.

Might just ping them back out on wonder trade - I see plenty of people using them in raids, and Nintendo doesn’t even block them from competitions. But I wouldn’t use them myself, those nicknames are abominations.

Ethics on breeding from a hacked parent and a legitimate one?

Devalue May 7th, 2022 2:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10500407)
Ethics on breeding from a hacked parent and a legitimate one?

Hears opinions going both ways about being okay or not. Dislikes it, personally. Still feels like cheating adjacent. Would not complain about being given one either, however. Probably used tons over the years without knowing.

Understands those who do not care at all, though. Saves time. Cannot distinguish Pokemon bred with hacked parents apart from Pokemon bred with legitimate parents (barring illegal balls).

Admits possible exceptions for difficult-to-find Pokemon with hidden abilities, however. Cannot access them without trading. Made it hard to trade in older generations. How much time and how many Pokemon are you willing to put into GTS hoping for even a halfway legitimate Pokemon? Is it worth the fuzzy feeling of invisible "legitimacy"?

Amore May 7th, 2022 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devalue (Post 10500578)
Hears opinions going both ways about being okay or not. Dislikes it, personally. Still feels like cheating adjacent. Would not complain about being given one either, however. Probably used tons over the years without knowing.

Understands those who do not care at all, though. Saves time. Cannot distinguish Pokemon bred with hacked parents apart from Pokemon bred with legitimate parents (barring illegal balls).

Admits possible exceptions for difficult-to-find Pokemon with hidden abilities, however. Cannot access them without trading. Made it hard to trade in older generations. How much time and how many Pokemon are you willing to put into GTS hoping for even a halfway legitimate Pokemon? Is it worth the fuzzy feeling of invisible "legitimacy"?

I’ll make sure I only breed hacked fathers then claim immaculate conception 😆

If I have a hacked Pokémon with 6 IVs and I breed it with a wild caught one, most likely the parent will be weaker anyway. I’ll probably just disclose it if I ever trade one (offspring that is, once I capture my own Regieleki, Regidrago, and whatever Pyroar’s base form is I’ll release them most likely). Probably helps my decisions that I only want shinies where I actually prefer the colouration rather than just because they’re shiny (so releasing Lapras and Pyroar will be painful)

Amore June 3rd, 2022 2:53 AM

Pokémon: Giratina
Shiny: Yes
OT: Takeo
ID: 09999
Level: 100
Region of Origin: Spain
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Pressure
Ribbons:
Location Met & Level Met: Hoenn, 8/8/2020, Dusk Ball
Where/how you recieved it: HOME GTS (not for a legendary, but a reasonably rare pokémon - it was late night so I already can't remember)
Individual Values/Characteristic: Pretty Good / 31 / Pretty Good / 31 / Pretty Good / 31
Effort Values: Max Speed, equal split between Atk and SpA for the rest.

I'm only posting this because it seemed such an unlikely trade, especially by GTS standards (although I also actually got a Vivillon the same night so maybe it was just luck?), to get not only a legendary but a shiny legendary for a regular pokémon (I think it was a Gen V / VI starter - this is why you shouldn't GTS at 2am!). Everything else about it seems utterly plausible, down to the 3x 31 IVs and 3x sucky ones.

WristCutter June 9th, 2022 6:04 PM

pokemon: zacian
shiny: no
OT: Palkia
ID no.: 998390
Level: 70
Ribbons: galar champ,tower master,master rank,best friends and effort ribbon
nature: adamant
IVs: Best (not hypertrained)
Evs: max attack and speed
he was caught with a fast ball on the tower summit
is he hacked?:(

Tolein July 22nd, 2022 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R4F4300 (Post 10155354)
Pokémon: Zamazenta
Shiny: no
OT: Central
ID: 337430
Level: 70
Region of Origin: galar
Nature: jolly
Ability: dauntless shield
Ribbons: galar champion ribbon, tower master ribbon, master rank ribbon, best friends ribbon, effort ribbon
Location Met & Level Met: Tower Summit Lv.70
Where/how you recieved it: GTS pokemon home
Individual Values/Characteristic: 6 perfect IVs, it's alert to sounds!
Effort Values: (In gen 7, go on the Summary page and press Y ) Maxed out Speed

A Zamazenta with 6 perfect IVs that isn't hypertrained. Extremely extremely unlikely that it is legit.

Alicatsngel9315 August 11th, 2022 3:31 PM

Pokémon: celebi
Shiny: yes
OT: jungle
ID: 211006
Level: 60
Region of Origin: it seems to it cake from a pokemon movie
Nature: quirky
Ability: natural cure
Ribbons: wishing ribbon
Location Met & Level Met: was from a mystery box Met lvl 60
Where/how you recieved it: pokemon the movie: secrets of the jungle newsletter promotion
Individual Values/Characteristic:
Effort Values: hp 195/195 sp. Atk 143 sp. Def 143 speed 143 defense 143 attack 138

Firebolt August 11th, 2022 5:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alicatsngel9315 (Post 10537273)
Pokémon: celebi
Shiny: yes
OT: jungle
ID: 211006
Level: 60
Region of Origin: it seems to it cake from a pokemon movie
Nature: quirky
Ability: natural cure
Ribbons: wishing ribbon
Location Met & Level Met: was from a mystery box Met lvl 60
Where/how you recieved it: pokemon the movie: secrets of the jungle newsletter promotion
Individual Values/Characteristic:
Effort Values: hp 195/195 sp. Atk 143 sp. Def 143 speed 143 defense 143 attack 138

"Where/how you recieved it" refers to how you received the Pokemon. If you redeemed the code yourself, then it's certainly not hacked! That's a legitimate event; I still have the newsletter promotion myself.

Alicatsngel9315 August 11th, 2022 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebolt (Post 10537285)
"Where/how you recieved it" refers to how you received the Pokemon. If you redeemed the code yourself, then it's certainly not hacked! That's a legitimate event; I still have the newsletter promotion myself.

Ah well it does say celebis were always checked so I was being cautious

Firebolt August 11th, 2022 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alicatsngel9315 (Post 10537324)
Ah well it does say celebis were always checked so I was being cautious

Honestly, big props to you for actually reading the rules! But that one in particular was written when the only way a legitimate shiny Celebi could be obtained was by soft-resetting at full odds in Pokemon Crystal VC. Now that is has been released as a Serial Code in Sword and Shield and a special event Research Quest in Pokemon Go, I think it's safe to say that you can expect them to be legitimate if they come from either source (Serial Code is an event that will always have the same details as yours, PoGo Pokemon will have a mark to show it is from Pokemon Go).

Alicatsngel9315 August 12th, 2022 6:12 AM

I can read a 1000 page book in a day. Reading the rules just takes a few extra minutes of time. And it helps me know what's going on. How am I supposed to know how it works without reading lol.

Alicatsngel9315 August 13th, 2022 9:00 AM

Are pokemon from pokemon.co hacked. Because I got one in a suprise trade

Firebolt August 13th, 2022 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alicatsngel9315 (Post 10537767)
Are pokemon from pokemon.co hacked. Because I got one in a suprise trade

It's very hard trying to find info on "pokemon.co" because searching it online takes you to the Pokemon Company's website, but in a different language. Trying to add a few more search terms didn't help in narrowing down a source. To me, it is most likely hacked, with the Pokemon having that OT to trick people who don't know better that it's a legitimate event Pokemon from the Pokemon Company (or "Pokemon Co."). There has been no event with that OT, but also without knowing more specifically about the Pokemon received, it's hard to say if they're hacked for certain.

Amore October 15th, 2022 11:02 AM

Pokémon: Solgaleo
Shiny: Y
OT: Eclipse
ID: 100419
Level: 60
Region of Origin: Alola (FRE)
Nature: Brave
Ability: Full Metal Body
Ribbons: None
Location Met & Level Met: Alola, Fateful Encounter
Where/how you recieved it: GTS in HOME
Individual Values/Characteristic: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31

I initially considered that this was someone cloning their Gen 7 events then bringing them forward, as I keep seeing a few shiny Solgaleo. However the lack of a ribbon (the event should have the Classic Ribbon according to Bulbapedia), leads me to believe this is a hack.

Firebolt October 16th, 2022 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10560636)
Pokémon: Solgaleo
Shiny: Y
OT: Eclipse
ID: 100419
Level: 60
Region of Origin: Alola (FRE)
Nature: Brave
Ability: Full Metal Body
Ribbons: None
Location Met & Level Met: Alola, Fateful Encounter
Where/how you recieved it: GTS in HOME
Individual Values/Characteristic: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31

I initially considered that this was someone cloning their Gen 7 events then bringing them forward, as I keep seeing a few shiny Solgaleo. However the lack of a ribbon (the event should have the Classic Ribbon according to Bulbapedia), leads me to believe this is a hack.

Your hunch is correct! Event Pokemon cannot be put on GTS or Wonder Trade, unless, as happened in your case, the event ribbon was forcibly removed.

Amore October 16th, 2022 2:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebolt (Post 10560828)
Your hunch is correct! Event Pokemon cannot be put on GTS or Wonder Trade, unless, as happened in your case, the event ribbon was forcibly removed.

Oh well. I didn't give away anything too valuable for it (which was actually the main red flag hence my assumption about cloning), and it got me one step closer to the OC Magearna! Gorgeous too, one of my favourite shinies.

Quarter October 23rd, 2022 4:48 PM

Pokémon: Zeraora
Shiny: No
OT: フウラシティ
ID: 180713
Level: 50
Region of Origin: Alola
Nature: Gentle
Ability: Volt Absorb
Ribbons: Wishing Ribbon
Location Met & Level Met: Fateful encounter in the Alola region on 02/16/2020
Where/how you recieved it: I think it was from a giveaway
Individual Values/Characteristic: 4 Best, 2 Decent
Effort Values: (In gen 7, go on the Summary page and press Y): HP 163, Attack 132, Defense 85, Speed 163, Sp. Def 93, Sp. Att 108

On Serebii, it's stated that the start date and end date is 13 July 2018 - 30 September 2018. If the encounter was in 2020, could this be fake?

Amore October 23rd, 2022 5:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarter (Post 10564202)

On Serebii, it's stated that the start date and end date is 13 July 2018 - 30 September 2018. If the encounter was in 2020, could this be fake?

I'm not an expert so there could be other indicators, but I wouldn't discount it just based on that. They could have been manipulating the clock on their console for grinding - do it long enough and you'll end up years ahead!

Amore October 24th, 2022 10:51 AM

Got a couple of my own here that's questionable. I'm hoping just cloned!

Magikarp
Shiny
OT: (Chinese, kinda looks like N and then T)
ID: 672121
Level 1
Galar
Jolly
Swift Swim
Jolly
Egg hatched Route 5, Egg received in link trade
GTS Wonder Trade
Perfect IVs
Lure Ball

Skeptical that anyone bred so many shiny Magikarp they give a perfect Jolly one away on Wonder Trade...

Politoed
Shiny
OT: ASH
ID: 35372
Lv. 50
...travelled across space and time...Kanto
Timid
Water Absorb
Champion Ribbon (Hoenn), Effort Ribbon, Artist Ribbon, Contest Memory Ribbon x20, Battle Memory Ribbon x2
GTS Trade
31 / Ft / 31 / Ft / 31 / Ft
Max SpA, Spe

I think this is legit due to the ribbons. 3 IVs would be very difficult to do in Gen III, but not impossible. I think its their pride and joy so they've had it cloned a lot, then put it up for trade. But still, GTS shinies are dodgy (got an obviously hacked Chandelure, as well as that Solgaleo that was most likely legit before its ribbon was removed).

Swablu
Shiny
OT: Japanese, kinda like a reverse C or an M thats slanting to the left, then two squares
ID: 62148
Lv. 1
Unova
Impish
Natural Cure
Fateful Encounter
GTS Trade
PG / PG / PG / D / D / D

I think this is possibly a cloned Year of the Dragon Egg Pokémon - they were JPN-exclusive, Fateful Encounter but no ribbons, in an ordinary Poké Ball.

Obstagoon
Shiny
OT: Shiny24.com
ID: 784810
Lv. 100
Galar
Adamant
Defiant
Pokémon Den
GTS Trade
31 / Ft / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31

The website claims their Pokémon are legit, normally I'd dismiss it out of hand but normally GTS is pretty good on hacks, particularly made in the current generation...and it says it was at a Pokémon Den so maybe it was just resets?

Firebolt October 26th, 2022 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarter (Post 10564202)
Pokémon: Zeraora
Shiny: No
OT: フウラシティ
ID: 180713
Level: 50
Region of Origin: Alola
Nature: Gentle
Ability: Volt Absorb
Ribbons: Wishing Ribbon
Location Met & Level Met: Fateful encounter in the Alola region on 02/16/2020
Where/how you recieved it: I think it was from a giveaway
Individual Values/Characteristic: 4 Best, 2 Decent
Effort Values: (In gen 7, go on the Summary page and press Y): HP 163, Attack 132, Defense 85, Speed 163, Sp. Def 93, Sp. Att 108

On Serebii, it's stated that the start date and end date is 13 July 2018 - 30 September 2018. If the encounter was in 2020, could this be fake?

There's a few reasons it could have that date:
  1. It could have been picked up at a much later date. The date received in gen 7 is tied to the day you pick it up from the mail man, but theoretically it can sit there for years and years.
  2. As Amore mentioned, it just happened that the date on the 3DS was set to a different time for whatever reason.
  3. It's hacked. The OT probably figured out how to inject Wonder Cards some years after the event and did so to get the event.

Based on the OT given, this was the Zeraora event that was distributed in-person at the movie theaters in Japan for a few months. If the Pokemon has an English name, then it's very likely that it was injected through hacks (the event may be Japanese but the Pokemon's name will always change to the region of the 3DS; hard to believe that an English player was in Japan to pick up the event and then gave away the Pokemon).

Firebolt October 26th, 2022 3:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10564482)
Got a couple of my own here that's questionable. I'm hoping just cloned!

Magikarp
Shiny
OT: (Chinese, kinda looks like N and then T)
ID: 672121
Level 1
Galar
Jolly
Swift Swim
Jolly
Egg hatched Route 5, Egg received in link trade
GTS Wonder Trade
Perfect IVs
Lure Ball

Skeptical that anyone bred so many shiny Magikarp they give a perfect Jolly one away on Wonder Trade...

It's suspicious, there's nothing that definitely gives it away. Cloning however is a pain in the Arceus if you don't have a Missingno, and if you went through the effort to clone it otherwise just to give away on the GTS...it was probably just hacked it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10564482)
Politoed
Shiny
OT: ASH
ID: 35372
Lv. 50
...travelled across space and time...Kanto
Timid
Water Absorb
Champion Ribbon (Hoenn), Effort Ribbon, Artist Ribbon, Contest Memory Ribbon x20, Battle Memory Ribbon x2
GTS Trade
31 / Ft / 31 / Ft / 31 / Ft
Max SpA, Spe

I think this is legit due to the ribbons. 3 IVs would be very difficult to do in Gen III, but not impossible. I think its their pride and joy so they've had it cloned a lot, then put it up for trade. But still, GTS shinies are dodgy (got an obviously hacked Chandelure, as well as that Solgaleo that was most likely legit before its ribbon was removed).

Honestly, the remaining IVs are somewhat important. If it's all 31s and 30s, then you know it's hacked. They just kept the 30s in to get the Hidden Power of their choice (back when it still existed, Hidden Power is a move that changed types based on IVs). If the IVs are 30, then it's probably not good eugenics that got it its IVs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10564482)
Swablu
Shiny
OT: Japanese, kinda like a reverse C or an M thats slanting to the left, then two squares
ID: 62148
Lv. 1
Unova
Impish
Natural Cure
Fateful Encounter
GTS Trade
PG / PG / PG / D / D / D

I think this is possibly a cloned Year of the Dragon Egg Pokémon - they were JPN-exclusive, Fateful Encounter but no ribbons, in an ordinary Poké Ball.

Biggest indicator here is the name and met date. If the Swablu's name is in English and/or the met date doesn't exactly line-up (i.e. it's past 2017), then it's most likely obtained from the DNS exploit. Not technically hacked, but not considered legitimate in the circles that care about that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10564482)
Obstagoon
Shiny
OT: Shiny24.com
ID: 784810
Lv. 100
Galar
Adamant
Defiant
Pokémon Den
GTS Trade
31 / Ft / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31

The website claims their Pokémon are legit, normally I'd dismiss it out of hand but normally GTS is pretty good on hacks, particularly made in the current generation...and it says it was at a Pokémon Den so maybe it was just resets?

I had a look at the site and I find it hilarious that in the FAQ section, they specifically avoided the word legitimate;
Spoiler:
No, all Pokémon are 100% legal and caught in-game. We do not sell any Pokémon that do not exist legally in the game. All our Pokémon are transferrable to Pokémon Home.

Italics mine. Basically, it's still very possible to hack a Raid and change IVs/shininess however you like and host that raid, so long as that species is usually available as a raid mon (that's basically all GF did in their crackdown, was to remove illegal species). But they did opt to not go for 31 in Atk, it's main offensive stat. Who knows, there's a small chance it could be real.

Amore October 26th, 2022 8:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebolt (Post 10565114)
Spoiler:
It's suspicious, there's nothing that definitely gives it away. Cloning however is a pain in the Arceus if you don't have a Missingno, and if you went through the effort to clone it otherwise just to give away on the GTS...it was probably just hacked it.


Honestly, the remaining IVs are somewhat important. If it's all 31s and 30s, then you know it's hacked. They just kept the 30s in to get the Hidden Power of their choice (back when it still existed, Hidden Power is a move that changed types based on IVs). If the IVs are 30, then it's probably not good eugenics that got it its IVs.


Biggest indicator here is the name and met date. If the Swablu's name is in English and/or the met date doesn't exactly line-up (i.e. it's past 2017), then it's most likely obtained from the DNS exploit. Not technically hacked, but not considered legitimate in the circles that care about that.


I had a look at the site and I find it hilarious that in the FAQ section, they specifically avoided the word legitimate;
Spoiler:
No, all Pokémon are 100% legal and caught in-game. We do not sell any Pokémon that do not exist legally in the game. All our Pokémon are transferrable to Pokémon Home.

Italics mine. Basically, it's still very possible to hack a Raid and change IVs/shininess however you like and host that raid, so long as that species is usually available as a raid mon (that's basically all GF did in their crackdown, was to remove illegal species). But they did opt to not go for 31 in Atk, it's main offensive stat. Who knows, there's a small chance it could be real.

Ah well, I already have a legit-seeming one anyway!

Ft = Fantastic = 30 so yeah I'm going hack :(

Swablu's name is also in Japanese, but AFAIK you can't get a met date from sonething that came from Bank in-game? So it says "Fateful Encounter on 9/25/22" but my shiny Gyarados I brought forward from HeartGold says met 10/4/22 - that's when it was transferred forward 8 generations. Although looking at all my other events, they have kept their dates...but none are from Gen V or earlier I don't believe, except some that are DNS Exploit. So do Fateful Encounter ones keep the met dates when brought forward?

God, that one actually requires thinking about. Still, it makes me certain my shiny Gardevoir is legit as Bulbapedia says anything transferred from XD will have 'Fateful Encounter' as their met!

Regarding Obstagoon, I don't see anyone making money off this going fully legit, I released it. Sadly that means my shiny Flygon is questionable - pretty sure I got in a raid hosted by DadShinies or something like that.

EDIT: Ooh, I got one more that might warrant thinking over. I am learning from your checks though, I dismissed a few things found through my GTS obsession out of hand.

Ditto
Shiny
OT: Solal (FRE)
ID: 199949
Lv. 100
Sinnoh
Hardy (Relaxed Mint)
Imposter
GTS Trade
31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
252 HP / 252 Def
Infectious PKRUS

I traded an Enamorus for it (the Enamorus was definitely cloned)

Firebolt October 26th, 2022 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 10565254)
Ah well, I already have a legit-seeming one anyway!

Ft = Fantastic = 30 so yeah I'm going hack :(

Swablu's name is also in Japanese, but AFAIK you can't get a met date from sonething that came from Bank in-game? So it says "Fateful Encounter on 9/25/22" but my shiny Gyarados I brought forward from HeartGold says met 10/4/22 - that's when it was transferred forward 8 generations. Although looking at all my other events, they have kept their dates...but none are from Gen V or earlier I don't believe, except some that are DNS Exploit. So do Fateful Encounter ones keep the met dates when brought forward?

God, that one actually requires thinking about. Still, it makes me certain my shiny Gardevoir is legit as Bulbapedia says anything transferred from XD will have 'Fateful Encounter' as their met!

Regarding Obstagoon, I don't see anyone making money off this going fully legit, I released it. Sadly that means my shiny Flygon is questionable - pretty sure I got in a raid hosted by DadShinies or something like that.

EDIT: Ooh, I got one more that might warrant thinking over. I am learning from your checks though, I dismissed a few things found through my GTS obsession out of hand.

Ditto
Shiny
OT: Solal (FRE)
ID: 199949
Lv. 100
Sinnoh
Hardy (Relaxed Mint)
Imposter
GTS Trade
31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
252 HP / 252 Def
Infectious PKRUS

I traded an Enamorus for it (the Enamorus was definitely cloned)

Sorry if my brain is a little slow today, but I'm not understanding the first sentence about Swablu. One thing I know that may clear up confusion though is that met dates before Gen 5 are useless. Why so? Because Game Freak decided to rework how Pokemon data works a little, and basically the met date for anything before Gen 5 will match the date of the transfer to Gen 5, not the actual date it was originally met. This is why it's also hard to tell if a Gen 4 event was obtained through the DNS exploit, but it's pretty easy to tell with Gen 5 as they'll have their actual met date, and it'll usually be after the exploit became mainstream (2017-ish). Only people who have the tools (hackers) or foresight (switch DS time) to also fix this date will be able to fool you otherwise. So Unova Swablu met in 2022 is sketchy, but HeartGold-Johto Gyarados met in the same year is fine. Fateful Encounter, to my knowledge, has no impact on the date.

Raid legitimacy is a complex issue sadly. While there are definitely hacked Raids out there, there's also the fact that even I could hunt for a shiny Raid, and then endlessly host it for other people by rewinding my clock every day before it ticks over midnight. I can also endlessly hunt for Raids by moving my clock days and days and days forward until I get the Raid I want (if you see a future date on a Raid mon you get, this is very likely what has happened). There are Discord servers full of people who will host the latter, but unfortunately, just like a DNS exploited event with its date changed, it's impossible to tell if it's hacked unless you receive the event or host the Raid yourself.

Finally, the Ditto! The 6-digit ID makes me think it's BDSP Ditto and not DPPt. From what I can tell, RNGing in the area that Ditto spawns in is super unreliable. It also has PKRUS, so it's 99.99% likely hacked. But no one cares about hacked Dittos so feel free to use it as you like 😜

Amore October 27th, 2022 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firebolt (Post 10565418)
Sorry if my brain is a little slow today, but I'm not understanding the first sentence about Swablu. One thing I know that may clear up confusion though is that met dates before Gen 5 are useless. Why so? Because Game Freak decided to rework how Pokemon data works a little, and basically the met date for anything before Gen 5 will match the date of the transfer to Gen 5, not the actual date it was originally met. This is why it's also hard to tell if a Gen 4 event was obtained through the DNS exploit, but it's pretty easy to tell with Gen 5 as they'll have their actual met date, and it'll usually be after the exploit became mainstream (2017-ish). Only people who have the tools (hackers) or foresight (switch DS time) to also fix this date will be able to fool you otherwise. So Unova Swablu met in 2022 is sketchy, but HeartGold-Johto Gyarados met in the same year is fine. Fateful Encounter, to my knowledge, has no impact on the date.

Raid legitimacy is a complex issue sadly. While there are definitely hacked Raids out there, there's also the fact that even I could hunt for a shiny Raid, and then endlessly host it for other people by rewinding my clock every day before it ticks over midnight. I can also endlessly hunt for Raids by moving my clock days and days and days forward until I get the Raid I want (if you see a future date on a Raid mon you get, this is very likely what has happened). There are Discord servers full of people who will host the latter, but unfortunately, just like a DNS exploited event with its date changed, it's impossible to tell if it's hacked unless you receive the event or host the Raid yourself.

Finally, the Ditto! The 6-digit ID makes me think it's BDSP Ditto and not DPPt. From what I can tell, RNGing in the area that Ditto spawns in is super unreliable. It also has PKRUS, so it's 99.99% likely hacked. But no one cares about hacked Dittos so feel free to use it as you like 😜

Ah ok, I was confused as a lot of the Pokémon I was looking at for reference went Gen IV-Gen VIII in about 1 hour haha. So Swablu is definitely hacked :(

Yeah raids are weird. Pretty sure my shiny Milcery x2 and Alcremie caught in-game myself are like that as they have identical IVs and nature, caught over the span of a few days. Ah well.

Yeah definitely BDSP origin mark. Might be quitting my GTS habit the way this is going!

EDIT: It has every Sinnoh ribbon I believe, plus the Master Rank ribbon (24 in total) so somebody was clearly very proud of their hack


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