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Team Embrace January 13th, 2019 1:40 PM

(Tapu Lele) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Psyshock
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Ground]
Outspeeds and OHKOs before it changes type

Nah January 13th, 2019 2:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Embrace (Post 9967551)
(Tapu Lele) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Psyshock
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Ground]
Outspeeds and OHKOs before it changes type

That's more of a check than a counter, as Lele has to risk coming in on a Gunk Shot, which OHKOs it easily.

As for a counter to Scarf Lele:

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani/ferrothorn.gif
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 96 Def / 164 SpD
Sassy Nature
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball
-Power Whip
-Toxic

Comfortably tanks all of Lele's attacks, and OHKOs with Gyro Ball

Team Embrace January 13th, 2019 3:51 PM

Whoops! your right! well this counters Ferrothorn I believe.
Goodra @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Thunder
- Dragon Pulse
- Blizzard
Takes no damage from power whip and 2HKOs with flamethrower.

gimmepie January 14th, 2019 6:00 AM

Chansey @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Toxic
- Seismic Toss
- Stealth Rock
- Soft Boiled

Syndrome January 14th, 2019 4:09 PM

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Wave
- Taunt
- Focus Blast

gimmepie January 14th, 2019 4:29 PM

Muk-Alola @ Assault Vest
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 248 HP / 136 Atk / 28 Def / 92 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab
- Pursuit
- Fire Punch

Syndrome January 14th, 2019 4:55 PM

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 44 Def / 108 SpD / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Roost

Sirfetch’d January 14th, 2019 8:33 PM

Sigilyph @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Heat Wave
- Roost
- Calm Mind

gimmepie January 14th, 2019 8:46 PM

Sharpedo @ Sarpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang

5qwerty January 15th, 2019 1:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9968080)
Sharpedo @ Sarpedonite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petuuuhhh (Post 9968202)
Tapu Koko @ Choice Band
Ability: Electric Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Wild Charge
- Brave Bird
- Grass Knot
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Not a counter. Sharpedo uses Waterfall on the switch, gets the Speed Boost (or just uses Protect the next turn), and then Mega-Evolves, outspeeds, and uses Waterfall again for the KO. Though I guess gimmepie's Sharpedo is holding a Sarpedonite so it fails to actually Mega-Evolve. But then again the roll from normal Sharpedo Waterfall on Koko is already enough to 2hko.

Also no one ACTUALLY decided to counter my Greninja set from before, which, by the rules, you are supposed to.
Quote:

As mentioned in the previous rule, if the previous poster fails to post a valid counter, you should call them out and post an appropriate counter to what they were countering.
Team Embrace posted a check instead of a counter, and Nah countered that check instead of countering the 'mon that the check was supposed to counter.

Thus I will post a counter to the Greninja set and also the Sharpedo set.

Gren counter:
Spoiler:
Moltres @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Pressue
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Fire Blast
- HP Grass
- Roost
Lives 2 Gunk Shots always and KOs with Z-Hurricane.


And here is the set that counters Mega Sharpedo, which is what the next poster should be countering.

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off
- Facade

Takes any hit and KOs with Mach Punch (cuz it gets burned the turn it switches in).

gimmepie January 15th, 2019 1:59 PM

Mimikyu @ Life Orb
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Sneak
- Play Rough
- Shadow Claw

3/4 attacks can't touch Mimikyu and disguise absorbs Knock Off (and even if it didn't your ohko isn't guaranteed). Then Mimikyu outspeeds and OHKOs with Play Rough.

Team Embrace January 16th, 2019 5:01 PM

(Cloyster) (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Shell Smash
- Razor Shell
Hits even with Disguise should counter but only has a 6.3% OKHO chance.

5qwerty January 17th, 2019 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Embrace (Post 9968685)
(Cloyster) (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Rock Blast
- Shell Smash
- Razor Shell
Hits even with Disguise should counter but only has a 6.3% OKHO chance.

I'm not sure whether this should be called out or not. Technically it's not a counter by the definition that was linked in the first post.

It does take a +2 Play Rough in all cases even without the Sash, and has a 93.8% chance to KO after Life Orb recoil. Though if you don't manage to kill, Mimikyu kills you with Shadow Sneak then faints itself due to Life Orb. In that circumstance, you actually lose first because you are the first to faint. I think a more appropriate counter would just be to use something like NeverMeltIce instead of Focus Sash.

Anyway, I guess I'll post this Empoleon set to counter your Cloyster:

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpAtk
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Flash Cannon
- HP Electric

HeroLinik January 18th, 2019 2:03 AM

Magnezone @ Choice Specs
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power Fire

gimmepie January 18th, 2019 2:58 AM

Zeraora @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Plasma Fists
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Megan February 14th, 2019 2:24 AM

Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 248 HP / 88 Def / 156 SpD / 16 Spe
Calm Nature
- Leech Seed
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
- Hidden Power Fire

Dark Azelf February 14th, 2019 6:07 PM

Chandelure @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 156+ SpD Thick Fat Venusaur-Mega: 218-260 (60 - 71.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Syndrome February 15th, 2019 1:14 PM

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
- Heal Bell

Sirfetch’d February 15th, 2019 4:32 PM

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 29 HP
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Wave
- Taunt
- Focus Blast

Syndrome February 16th, 2019 2:10 PM

Muk-Alola @ Assault Vest
Ability: Poison Touch
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Gunk Shot
- Knock Off
- Fire Punch

HeroLinik February 17th, 2019 12:43 AM

Garchomp @ Groundium Z
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Outrage
- Stealth Rock

Syndrome February 18th, 2019 4:44 PM

Togekiss @ Babiri Berry
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Air Slash
- Flamethrower
- Roost

Sirfetch’d February 18th, 2019 8:18 PM

Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Unnerve
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Aqua Tail
- Pursuit

runningO February 23rd, 2019 11:46 AM

[email protected]
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Relaxed Nature
-Stealth Rock
-Scald
-Toxic
-Earthquake

Nah February 23rd, 2019 1:40 PM

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani/serperior.gif
Serperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Timid Nature
-Leaf Storm
-Hidden Power Fire
-Glare
-Leech Seed


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