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gimmepie February 23rd, 2019 9:05 PM

Heatran @ Firium Z
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Magma Storm
- Taunt
- Earth Power
- Stealth Rock

Dark Azelf February 24th, 2019 9:34 PM

Flygon @ Dragonium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Outrage
- Fire Punch

Anvils Alive February 26th, 2019 7:01 PM

Empoleon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Defog
- Taunt
This dude can tank an Earthquake, even a critical Earthquake that deals 368 or less, then goes for Ice Beam to OHKO your Flygon.

As long as you choose anything other than Earthquake for the best, you fall to one Ice Beam.

Nah February 27th, 2019 5:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvils Alive (Post 9984908)
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Defog
- Taunt
This dude can tank an Earthquake, even a critical Earthquake that deals 368 or less, then goes for Ice Beam to OHKO your Flygon.

As long as you choose anything other than Earthquake for the best, you fall to one Ice Beam.

This is a check and not a counter. While Empoleon can live one Earthquake, it cannot survive two of them. Being slower than Flygon, it'll switch in, eat an Earthquake, then eat another one before it can act and die.

So for a real counter to Flygon:

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani/sylveon.gif
Sylveon @ Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
-Hyper Voice
-Wish
-Protect
-Heal Bell

252+ Atk Flygon Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 141-166 (35.7 - 42.1%) -- 90.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Flygon: 306-360 (101.6 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anvils Alive February 27th, 2019 6:24 AM

Doublade @ Steelium Z
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Sacred Sword
- Shadow Sneak
Even with Doublade's Careful nature, it can switch in, tank two Hyper Voices from Sylveon, then one-shot with Corkscrew Crash off of Iron Head.

4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD Doublade: 69-81 (26.6 - 31.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Doublade Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 438-516 (111.1 - 130.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Leftovers recovery

Dark Azelf March 1st, 2019 12:29 AM

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spd / 6 Def
Modest Nature
- Discharge
- Hidden Power Ice
- Heat Wave
- Roost

252 Atk Doublade Corkscrew Crash (180 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zapdos: 150-177 (46.7 - 55.1%) -- 67.6% chance to 2HKO


252+ SpA Life Orb Zapdos Heat Wave vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD Doublade: 315-372 (121.6 - 143.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Sirfetch’d March 1st, 2019 8:10 AM

Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Toxic
- Earthquake

Dark Azelf March 1st, 2019 9:03 PM

Exeggutor-Alola @ Life Orb
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 40 Atk / 252 SpA / 216 Spe
Rash Nature
- Flamethrower
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse
- Low Kick

Hot #NoWeaks etc

Syndrome March 1st, 2019 10:57 PM

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 160 SpD / 96 Spe
Calm Nature
- Air Slash
- Heal Bell
- Roost
- Defog

252+ SpA Life Orb Exeggutor-Alola Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Togekiss: 96-114 (25.6 - 30.4%) -- 2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

Dark Azelf March 11th, 2019 6:01 PM

Bastiodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Flash Cannon
- Metal Burst
- Toxic

Come at me bro

Nah March 12th, 2019 4:36 AM

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Marowak-Alola @ Thick Club
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
-Shadow Bone
-Flare Blitz
-Swords Dance
-Bonemerang

Bonemerang hits twice, so it can punch through Sturdy and so not fear a KO from Metal Burst

gimmepie March 12th, 2019 7:00 AM

Landorus-Therian @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Def / 144 Spe
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power Ice
- U-turn

Simply Dunsparce March 12th, 2019 6:27 PM

Cryogonal @ Aguav Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 Spa / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Ice Beam
- Flash Cannon
- Recover
- Water Pulse

gimmepie March 13th, 2019 3:00 AM

Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off
- Facade

Cryogonal can't switch into a single attack because they all OHKO

Simply Dunsparce March 13th, 2019 5:30 PM

Mimikyu @ Fairium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 128 Def / 128 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Shadow Sneak
- Swords Dance
- Leech Life

Even if Conkeldurr goes for Knock of the turn Mimikyu switches in and Twinkle Tackle misses, Play Rough is a guaranteed 2 KO without crits or misses while Knock Off is a 3 hit KO with no crits and likely a 2 hit KO if any crits occur.

Dark Azelf March 17th, 2019 9:59 PM

Arcanine @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Flamethrower
- Will-O-Wisp
- Morning Sun
- Toxic

Intimidate, bulk and resistance to everything bar the weak shadow sneak + burn = walled.

Simply Dunsparce March 18th, 2019 5:34 PM

Kingdra @ Leftovers
Ability: Sniper
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dragon Pulse
- Flash Cannon
- Ice Beam

Hydro Pump is a guaranteed OHKO

11wildy March 19th, 2019 3:04 AM

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252 hp/252 def/4spatk
-calm mind
-softboiled
-ice beam
-thunderbolt

gimmepie March 19th, 2019 8:28 AM

Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Extreme Speed
- Meteor Mash

Even after a Calm Mind it fails to get more than a 3HKO, but Lucario gets the OHKO.

metroid711 March 19th, 2019 11:21 AM

Garchomp @ Groundium z
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance

Even if Lucario hits first, it does chip off damage from Rough Skinand Garchomp can just OHKO with Tectonic Rage.

gimmepie March 19th, 2019 4:11 PM

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 100 SpD / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Roost

You can't really do anything to Gliscor so it can just poison you and wait it out.

Dark Azelf March 19th, 2019 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metroid711 (Post 9995103)
Garchomp @ Groundium z
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance

Even if Lucario hits first, it does chip off damage from Rough Skinand Garchomp can just OHKO with Tectonic Rage.

Not a counter to Lucario because it cant switch into a close combat followed by an extremespeed which has priority so Garchomp wont get a hit in.

252 Atk Life Orb Lucario Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 238-281 (66.4 - 78.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Lucario Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 105-125 (29.3 - 34.9%) -- 12.1% chance to 3HKO


Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 9995238)
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 100 SpD / 112 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Roost

You can't really do anything to Gliscor so it can just poison you and wait it out.

Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Icicle Crash
- Knock Off

Syndrome April 9th, 2019 7:46 AM

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe
Bold Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

gimmepie April 9th, 2019 9:12 AM

Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Ability: Storm Drain
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Toxic
- Earthquake

Nah April 9th, 2019 10:04 AM

http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/xyani/lapras.gif
Lapras @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 120 HP / 252 SpA / 136 Spe
Modest Nature
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Freeze Dry
-Hidden Power Fire

252+ SpA Choice Specs Lapras Freeze-Dry vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 460-544 (108.2 - 128%) -- guaranteed OHKO


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