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Miss Wendighost January 28th, 2019 7:41 PM

Whispers of the Past: PokeCommunity History Club
 
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Welcome to Whispers of the Past!

Whispers of the Past is a Pokecommunity club where members can discuss various periods of history from the Ancient Egyptians to the modern day and everything in between. Whether you are just an average Joe with an interest in our past or a historian yourself, everyone with a curious mind as to our past is welcome here. Before we go on, I feel that some ground rules are to be established.

Rules

- All PokeCommunity and Clubhouse rules apply
- Healthy debate is encouraged.
- Some sensitive topics such as religion and race may be brought up at one point. Please respond to such topics with maturity and tact
- Show members respect, and the members will respect you.
- Don't be afraid to ask questions
- Have fun!


Members List

TheGhostHunter (Founder)
VisionofMilotic
Noblejanobii
CodeHelmet
Aslan
Janp

VisionofMilotic February 1st, 2019 3:49 AM

I don't think I have ever been so excited for a club! History is a favorite subject of mine, and I've been getting really pumped for a discussion lately. I haven't been able to turn my head away from articles about kings and queens from all around the world.

How many of you have heard of Queen Amanirenas? We have a million novels, biographies, reconstructive busts, miniseries, movies, costumes, works of art, pieces of music and even Shakespeare celebrating Cleopatra. But what of the Queen who made Emperor Augustus' life much harder? Where are your movies Amanirenas?!!! I think she sounds like a much more noble, independent and successful queen.

Take a look at her story on the website rejected princesses if you aren't already acquainted.
https://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/amanirenas

Miss Wendighost February 1st, 2019 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VisionofMilotic (Post 9974522)
I don't think I have ever been so excited for a club! History is a favorite subject of mine, and I've been getting really pumped for a discussion lately. I haven't been able to turn my head away from articles about kings and queens from all around the world.

How many of you have heard of Queen Amanirenas? We have a million novels, biographies, reconstructive busts, miniseries, movies, costumes, works of art, pieces of music and even Shakespeare celebrating Cleopatra. But what of the Queen who made Emperor Augustus' life much harder? Where are your movies Amanirenas?!!! I think she sounds like a much more noble, independent and successful queen.

Take a look at her story on the website rejected princesses if you aren't already acquainted.
https://www.rejectedprincesses.com/princesses/amanirenas

No, I haven't heard about her, but I might now look it up.

Noblejanobii February 2nd, 2019 5:15 AM

Ah yes, Amanirenas, the queen of Kush. I actually don't know much about her beyond that so this was interesting to read about.

But I do love history. It's always been one of my favorite subjects in school and I love learning little random nuggets of historical knowledge like this.

Ninetales February 2nd, 2019 9:39 AM

OOOOH YES! I love history! Such an enthralling subject, indeed! I have loved learning and researching everything from ancient Chinese religion to fashion in the Victorian Era since as long as I remember! I'm so indescribably excited for this club!

http://www.ddlgforum.com/uploads/gallery/album_2371/gallery_30420_2371_53890.gif
(Me reading anything slightly related to the subject of history)

Also, If anyone knows me, they know my adoration for historical fiction novels! Something is so charming about the way an author can bring a past event back to life in full colour.

CodeHelmet February 2nd, 2019 2:53 PM

When it comes to History for me, it's World War 1 and World War 2 for me. Might even lob the forgotten Korean War(which has yet to end and why we still have 30k+ Troops stationed in S.Korea right now) and Vietnam into the mix(You can thank the stuck up French and Charles De Gaulle for that exploding in the first place). The reason I like those conflicts is because everything that led to them are lessons that people of today appear to have forgotten. They say people can learn from the mistakes of the past by reading and learning History and with that I agree 100%.

I'll just say this: MacArthur should have been fired for incompetence and Halsey should have been fired for not once but twice leaving Allied forces at the mercy of the Japanese.

VisionofMilotic February 2nd, 2019 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGhostHunter (Post 9974565)
No, I haven't heard about her, but I might now look it up.

You're awesome for being open to learning about a new queen. There were women besides Boudica and Cleopatra who dared to challenge the will of Rome. Amanirenas was so badazz that in negotiations after battle with Caesar she gave him a present of golden arrows with a message: "If you want peace, they are a token of friendship and warmth. If you want war, you are going to need them."

Afterward Augustus made peace with her, at least according to the Selina O'Grady article I read. Epic!

Aslan February 2nd, 2019 10:41 PM

I'd love to join! History was my favourite subject and I always found it so interesting. I enjoy earning about a lot of different cultures and time periods - whether it's the Egyptians, Ancient China, Medieval England, the French Revolution, American Civil War etc. I still have a lot to learn but it's so interesting seeing how humanity has progressed, and events of the past. I have a lot of history books on my shelf I have yet to read ;;

Miss Wendighost February 4th, 2019 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aslan (Post 9975117)
I'd love to join! History was my favourite subject and I always found it so interesting. I enjoy earning about a lot of different cultures and time periods - whether it's the Egyptians, Ancient China, Medieval England, the French Revolution, American Civil War etc. I still have a lot to learn but it's so interesting seeing how humanity has progressed, and events of the past. I have a lot of history books on my shelf I have yet to read ;;

Come to think of it, it is kind of interesting how we came to where we are now, technologically and socially. We went from draining blood for headaches to detecting and defeating cancer within a 150 years. And while social issues like race and gender are still somewhat volatile today, things are definitely better than they were in our grandparents' lifetimes.

Ninetales February 4th, 2019 10:18 PM

Sorry, if I didn't make it clear enough but I'd like to join this club!

Janp February 5th, 2019 1:45 AM

Hi! I would like to join in! My favourite era is around 14-16th century, mostly in the central Europe and I consider myself an expert on Hussites and Hussite Wars.

On the topic of the Amanirenas - I haven't heard of her, but I would like to learn more about ancient Egypt. It feels like I know a lot about its last few years (Cleopatra, its demise, ...) but not on the early years, which sounds more interesting.

Miss Wendighost February 7th, 2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticalNinetales (Post 9976049)
Sorry, if I didn't make it clear enough but I'd like to join this club!

Don't worry, I already got you on the member list.

VisionofMilotic February 9th, 2019 9:54 AM

I saw a really well-made miniseries on the emperor Shaka Zulu recently. I found a new favorite actor in Henry Cele. The costumes were breathtaking I love the music too!
https://i.postimg.cc/rsWyZqcF/6ae1473fa39130ff6360d242ae38dbaf.jpg

I love historical miniseries and with Valentine's Day coming up I am going to snuggle into the White Queen soon an adaptation of the Phillippa Gregory novel based on the War of the Roses, its more fantasy then accurate to history but I still enjoyed both the novels and the series. I am gaining quite an interest in this era of time with my favorite manga being Requiem of the Rose King.

Does anyone else enjoy manga/ anime inspired by historical figures like the Rose of Versailles, Le Chavelier D'eon etc?

CodeHelmet February 9th, 2019 5:28 PM

My mother prefers the Victoria series on PBS. Even though her record as longest serving Queen was broken by the current monarch who happens to be her great, great Grandaughter, there is something about Victorian London that is fascinating. Last Episode involved a Cholera outbreak, which in those days was certain death. Also the Zulu are quite interesting, even a blast to play as in Civilization games :) Impi units = OP lol

VisionofMilotic February 13th, 2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CodeHelmet (Post 9977812)
My mother prefers the Victoria series on PBS. Even though her record as longest serving Queen was broken by the current monarch who happens to be her great, great Grandaughter, there is something about Victorian London that is fascinating. Last Episode involved a Cholera outbreak, which in those days was certain death. Also the Zulu are quite interesting, even a blast to play as in Civilization games :) Impi units = OP lol


I saw the first season of that year. It wasn't bad at all! Your mum might also enjoy the Young Victoria movie with Emily Blunt if she is a fan of this era and doesn't already have it in her collection.

CodeHelmet February 14th, 2019 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VisionofMilotic (Post 9979136)
I saw the first season of that year. It wasn't bad at all! Your mum might also enjoy the Young Victoria movie with Emily Blunt if she is a fan of this era and doesn't already have it in her collection.

Her latest passion is Outlander ironically but she supplements with Victoria and other historical drama's/series like Downton Abbey. Recommend the latter if anyone wants a peek into pre-World War 1 England.

VisionofMilotic February 15th, 2019 8:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CodeHelmet (Post 9979687)
Her latest passion is Outlander ironically but she supplements with Victoria and other historical drama's/series like Downton Abbey. Recommend the latter if anyone wants a peek into pre-World War 1 England.

I haven't watched Downton Abbey in awhile, but I did like it. At least the first season was very good.

CodeHelmet February 15th, 2019 9:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VisionofMilotic (Post 9979943)
I haven't watched Downton Abbey in awhile, but I did like it. At least the first season was very good.

All Seasons were good, at least according to my mom. However I can’t spoil it for you so read the following at your own risk ;)

Spoiler:
One of my mom’s favorite characters dies in a Car crash.

Miss Wendighost February 16th, 2019 6:04 PM

So a few days ago was the 90th anniversary of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in which it is believed that Al Capone had gunned down some members of Bugs Moran's gang in Chicago. I would like to know if you guys think Al Capone was behind it or not, since it still remains a mystery.

CodeHelmet February 16th, 2019 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGhostHunter (Post 9980541)
So a few days ago was the 90th anniversary of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in which it is believed that Al Capone had gunned down some members of Bugs Moran's gang in Chicago. I would like to know if you guys think Al Capone was behind it or not, since it still remains a mystery.

Not too knowledgeable on the topic at hand but if modern day organized crime is any indication, nothing goes down, at least with respect to a hit job, without the Boss knowing and giving the green light to do it.

Miss Wendighost February 17th, 2019 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeHelmet (Post 9980565)
Not too knowledgeable on the topic at hand but if modern day organized crime is any indication, nothing goes down, at least with respect to a hit job, without the Boss knowing and giving the green light to do it.

You do have a point, but one of the victims didn't say who did it right before he died, so we can't know for sure whether it was coordinated with Capone.

CodeHelmet February 17th, 2019 7:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGhostHunter (Post 9980955)
You do have a point, but one of the victims didn't say who did it right before he died, so we can't know for sure whether it was coordinated with Capone.

You mean perpetrators right? Kind of hard for a victim to say who did it don’t ya think?

Miss Wendighost February 18th, 2019 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CodeHelmet (Post 9980977)
You mean perpetrators right? Kind of hard for a victim to say who did it don’t ya think?

The one who refused to say who did it was injured, but died a few hours later. Probably should've cleared this up earlier.

CodeHelmet February 19th, 2019 2:03 PM

Refusing to say who it was was likely out of fear or honoring a code among gangsters of not “snitching” to the Police. I’m leaning towards not snitching and self preservation because if they snitched, their life was forfeit due to the fact no one would be able to trust them and trust is a valuable commodity in Organized Crime. Even if the person survived their injuries, they wouldn’t have lasted long.

Miss Wendighost February 19th, 2019 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CodeHelmet (Post 9981673)
Refusing to say who it was was likely out of fear or honoring a code among gangsters of not “snitching” to the Police. I’m leaning towards not snitching and self preservation because if they snitched, their life was forfeit due to the fact no one would be able to trust them and trust is a valuable commodity in Organized Crime. Even if the person survived their injuries, they wouldn’t have lasted long.

You kind of have a point there, plus there was open bribery of the police at the time, mainly due to alcohol prohibition, so it is possible that even if the person survived for a while after the event, the cops wouldn't do much about since they most likely would've been bribed.


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