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what are the best natures and movesets for the following;
mewtwo milotic latios latias metagross you could also post the stats and stuff of your best poke'mon |
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~Calm Mind ~Psychic ~Ice Beam ~Recover Milotic Bold(+Def,-Atk) ~Hypnosis ~Surf ~Ice Beam ~Recover Latios Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk) ~Dragon Claw ~Ice Beam ~Hidden power : Fire ~Thunder Bolt Latias Modest (+SpAtk,-Atk) ~Substitute ~ThunderBolt ~Ice Beam ~Dragon Claw Metagross Adamant(+Atk,-SpAtk) ~Agility ~Meteor MAsh ~Earthquake ~Sludge Bomb/Explosion |
I'm not much into legendary Pokémon (ordinary ones have so much more potential) so I'll just focus on the ones I know:
Milotic: Item: Leftovers Nature: Bold (-Attack, +Defense) or Modest (-Attack, +Sp. Attack) Ice Beam Surf Mirror Coat (Practically no special attack can take down Milotic with one hit, and counter attacks are lethal against strong opponents (2x the damage recieved)) Recover (Because you take a lot of damage when using Mirror Coat in succession) Metagross: Adamant (+Attack. -Sp. Attack) Item: Leftovers or Scope Lens Agility (Because Metagross is really slow) Shadow Ball (Together with Brick Break this allows you to bypass any resistances) Brick Break Meteor Mash/Earthquake/Explosion (To deal some heavier damage, Explosion is great when combined with Agility) |
I would say Milotic nature Calm or Modest and the same moveset Alter Ego (my bro) suggested and for Metagross
Any nature that raises speed or attack Agility Shadowball Brickbreak/Earthquake Meteor Mash/Explosion. |
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By the way, I've come up with a potential moveset for a Physical Sweeper Latios: Nature:Adamant (-Sp. Attack, +Attack) or Jolly (-Sp. Attack, +Speed) Item:Leftovers Shadow Ball Hidden Power:Fighting Earthquake Dragon Dance Buff up at a suitable spot and let the carnage begin. |
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I like going all out with latios, since he has more SpAtk to start with
BTW if you go with Dragon Claw you need HP: fire |
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2) you don't. I'd go with STAB instead of neutural effectiveness. 3) I'd go with T-bolt/Ice Beam. |
if you want to act cool and professional please get your facts right
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Seriously read before you post |
There is a slight hitch with an all-out Latios: Wobbuffet. It has 500+ HP and is very unlikely to faint from a single attack, leaving it a chance to strike back with Mirror Coat (Something I seriously doubt Latios could withstand) or use Destiny Bond. It's Shadow Tag ability prevents withdrawal too so it might be a good idea to replace either Thunderbolt or Ice Beam with Recover or Calm Mind. Just a thought...
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if wobbuffet is the only problem I don't see why you wouldn't use it
esp. if it can encore you calm minds and switch to the appropriate counter also, wobbuffet will be hit hard on the switch and then hit hard again so even if latios dies to a mirror coat wobba is also finished |
I see your point, but:
In addition to Wobbufet I would say Milotic (It sure withstood a Kyogre's Thunder) or Svampert would also be able to Mirror Coat good ol' Latios to oblivion. Also, Wobbuffet wouldn't be hit on the switch if the Pokémon that was switched in would fight to the death. Besides, I've used a Wobbuffet before (until I found out that it was branded 'Uber') and I seriously doubt that an unbuffed Latios could deal much more than 300 damage on one go without a critical hit (At least none of them did against me). This would leave Wobbuffet with over 200 HP which (Paired with Leftovers, or even better: A wish from another Pokémon) could get it back on its feet pretty quick. |
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Super Effective HP fire BARELY does more than Psychic on the same target. like 2% of HP more. Quote:
if you are using Dragon Claw, I'd pair it with psychic. but in general, I'd use Boltbeam. I just wasn't being clear, sorry 'bout that. |
dragon claw + HP fire gives absolute type coverage.
ie nothing resists it. |
My best Pokemon!
Mewtwo LV: 100 HP:397 Attack:281 Defence:278 Speed:297 Sp. Attack: 386 Sp. Defence:289 PS: I did use calcium and other stat-raising itmes. Moveset: Water Pulse Recover Psychic Swift |
What good is psychic, its not helping you hit anything you were NVE against, with Dragon Claw. Yes its SE against fighting types and poison types which are known to sport low special defenses (save the hitmon's who have low HP).
and can't everyone who does't guaranteed ohko something be 'countered' or 'mirror coated' anyway if it does, say, 300 on the switch then when it goes first on the next turn it will K.O. Wobbuffet. O rly wish support, well if you wish support your wobbuffet someone will lose their latios and then you will lose your wobbuffet on the consequent turn which ruins your whole strategy. =/ |
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Tch. Latias is better because she can get defensive roles in battles an' anyways I think annoyers kinda pwn sweepers.
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All I'm saying is, there's a counter for every build. |
Water (surf) and Dragon also give full type coverage.
Neither Machamp's hp or special defense are low. Charizard_Fire_God, give credit to Jax for your avatar. |
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Nice job at finding exceptions to the stuff I posted guys ;), I realize some of you don't realize I generalize sometimes; since the majority of pokemon can be beat by wobbafett, I posted that is not uncommon for it to be beat by it. You act like you are posting something constructive and everyone is learning from it, =/ you are severly mistaken. So, I guess wobbafett counters everything that isn't using those 6 moves (or status or a few select pokemon using select moves) and psychic is useless against everything but, machamp, who is a UU pokemon and we are discussing the uber metagame. Not to mention the best he can do is HP: ghost you. |
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lots of people have thought it, so yeah dun feel bad... (yes me too, im not all that great at netbattling/moveset making). oh yeah and i think flameclaw is better that boltbeam cus it hits... everything. or more things. mewtwo doesn't have to have recover... its good if you're more conservative though. |
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mewtwo:
Calm Mind Psychic Flamethrower Thunder milotic: Surf Ice Beam Toxic Recover latias and latios: Dragon Claw Psychic Thunderbolt Fire Blast metagross: Meteor Mash Psychic Shadow Ball Earthquake Try that! |
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