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VisionofMilotic March 18th, 2020 6:59 PM

Covid 19
 
I hope you are all safe and well. This is your thread for all discussion about the Coronavirus pandemic. You can share what your personal experience has been like and if the area you live in has been deeply impacted, post developing new stories, recommend safety tips. We're all in this together brothers and sisters.

Sothis March 18th, 2020 10:05 PM

On my twitter trends it says China has reported 0 new cases. I hope its fazing out. Everything being closed is not good for us, we need to get our groceries.

CiCi March 19th, 2020 12:18 AM

Always try to purchase canned goods and other non-perishables during each grocery run, to slowly build up your stock! Might not be useful now, but when this passes, people really should start doing that. Who knows when the next major shutdown will happen. Same with first-aid and cleaners. Good to have extra bandaids, isopropyl alcohol, hand soap, and cleaning spray on hand. At least try to have a jug of white vinegar in reserve. Might not smell great but it'll help you keep your home clean.

You can use a splash of white vinegar along with some liquid soap to wash your clothes if you can't get hold of your normal laundry detergent.
1 part isopropyl/hydrogen peroxide, 1 part white vinegar, and 10-15 parts warm water makes a very good cleaner and disinfectant!
Dumping some vinegar into your toilet bowl will help you scrub it clean.

Plus a lot more! I love having white vinegar in reserve for cleaning. <3 So versatile and environmentally friendly.

moon March 19th, 2020 12:27 AM

I'm working from home starting this week. We don't know for how long this will last. I'm estimating several more weeks, maybe a month... I don't think anybody truly knows.

Nah March 19th, 2020 4:42 AM

The town I live in got its first 2 confirmed cases yesterday.

School district closed down on Monday, is to be closed down through the 27th, and the board of education will decide on that day whether or not to re-open or continue to stay closed. Right now the expectation is that they'll decide to keep things closed for at least another week, but we'll see what happens. So I get at least 2 weeks off--unpaid cuz I'm just a sub, but I can live for a while without any pay since I still live with my parents.

I don't know all of the things New Jersey is doing about this, but iirc the state government has banned gatherings of 50+ people and has closed bars and restaurants, or at least told them that from 8PM on they can only do take-out orders. Or something. I think some stores are even starting to place limits on how much of certain items you can buy.

I'm personally not worried about this, as I'm not in one of the two groups that make up the vast majority of deaths (old people and people with pre-existing medical conditions), nor am I likely to spread it to a lot of people if I do get it, since I never go out much to begin with and so with no work I have little reason to leave the house much. symptoms kind of seem flu-like, so if I do get it's not like I'm going to suffer horribly. Never really bought into the panic and paranoia a lot of people have either. Those never help, and the apocalypse is not coming, it's unlikely that things are going to become akin to an irradiated warzone. Store shelves only look empty because stuff flies off them as soon as they get replenished, not because there's literally nothing left and/or the supply chain is dead.

U.S. government needs to get its shit together in regards to testing and medical supplies though.

Caite-chan March 19th, 2020 5:24 AM

Michigan is pretty bad. As of right now we have 110 cases and 1 death as of yesterday. The Governor has done the best she can and our dumbass President called her out on Twitter saying she needs to be doing better and that she hasn't been doing her best. Work closed as of Monday because we are huge and serve food.

pkmin3033 March 19th, 2020 6:34 AM

At the moment there are only 10 confirmed cases in my area, but that hasn't helped my anxiety at all...I catch the bus to work every morning, and my place of work is frequented by people who go out into the community on a regular basis. On top of that, my mother works at a school - although she'll be working from home come the end of this week - and my father is a postman, so he's out and about a lot as well. My brother's complete lack of the concept of hygeine has never been quite this noticeable before, either...we have a social story about handwashing above the sink now and I *think* he's following it, but I've caught ALL of them walking out of the bathroom without washing their hands in the last week.

Add all this up and I'm a shaking wreck. My manager is arranging things so I can work from home - my colleague is already doing this - and in the meantime I'm just doing my best to...function, tbh. Thus far the virus has only killed people with underlying health conditions, but that's me. I've had a constant headache this last week, I'm barely eating, my sleep is disrupted, and I'm constantly nauseous. At this point I'd almost welcome an excuse to self isolate in my room for 2 weeks.

I'm very worried about my grandparents, too. There are more cases where they are, and they're both quite active. My grandfather is also on chemo tablets for blood cancer, and my grandmother...well, I don't know, and that worries me even more, because she was quite ill when I was last with them, and her cough has come back *again* and they're both in their seventies now so they're in the age group that seems to be most affected by this in terms of mortality rates.

The UK government's response to this has been disgracefully lacking, but then, this is the government that thinks taking us out of the EU is a good idea, so expecting any kind of intelligent response would be unreasonable I suppose.

Sheep March 19th, 2020 7:57 AM

Meanwhile my state is at the top of case numbers in the US (2,600+ cases total so far), though far less deaths than the state with the second-highest number of cases, and less than the third. Things seem mostly as normal here tbh... our local grocery store is near empty for some things like meat, pasta, sanitation products, and even things like oranges + lemons (???), but otherwise I don't notice much different? Still a ton of people walking along the beach. Maybe there are a little less people out than normal but it's not enough for me to notice the difference in my neighborhood. Meanwhile, mom (who works what she considers a necessary job that she absolutely can't do from home.......) says there is almost no one on the buses to/from work.

In a way I see both sides here since total isolation would drive me completely crazy. My anxiety peaked back when I did nothing but sit on the computer and play games so I absolutely need to go outside for walks at least every couple of days or the anxiety would start to flare up again. I'm just careful not to get too close to people and of course will not go anywhere that has large gatherings unless absolutely necessary.

Downside is my doctor appt is March 25 and their next available appointment isn't until June so... I may have to go to that.. :x But will have to call and see if they're actually taking patients in person right now.

pastelspectre March 19th, 2020 8:24 AM

Last night I was told there’s 39 confirmed cases in my state.

I’m temporarily laid off at my work because of this, and without pay too. It really sucks. And thankfully we’re all stocked up on food for a few weeks or so, but I’m still worried about others. And I have no idea how long all of this will last.

Fritz March 19th, 2020 8:50 AM

My univeristy has cancelled face-to-face lessons and I won't have any work at my local football club for the forseeable future. I was planning on going to watch my favourite team on Sunday, but that obviously won't be happening now either.

Suppose I at least have more time to work on my uni assigments since the deadlines will be extended, so there's a positive. Will probably need to get a PC for most of the work though.

Hermione Granger March 19th, 2020 8:58 AM

It seems people that work or were layed off over this in the US might be getting $1000 in April and another $1000 in May. I am hoping this virus doesn't last too long and I hope to see most people recover from this virus.

Palamon March 19th, 2020 10:42 AM

New York is pretty bad. Heard awhile back New York had the most cases of any state in the US. My work program was cancelled for awhile, so I'm stuck at home for the foreseeable future. I guess that's for the best.

I've also heard that America will probably be dealing with this pandemic for 18 months, and I really don't want to be dealing with it fo that long.

Uecil March 19th, 2020 11:04 PM

There's a couple of cases nearby. We've had majority of schools shut now and sadly GCSEs have been scrapped for this year.

The only thing irritating right now about the whole thing in the UK, is that it's showing quite strongly how greedy people can be. Majority of the shops I've been in to have had empty shelves. As I'm someone who can be seen as vulnerable, but I have to care for a disabled parent (vulnerable as well), I've struggled to pick up just the basics, like bread or meat. We're lucky we've got a freezer with enough food and a cupboard with tins because if this panic buying continues, it could get extremely difficult.

I'm actually happy to stay inside, as I work from home anyway, but it's worrying, since I've got a few appointments to go to in the next couple of weeks and it's hard trying to reschedule dentist ones. There's lacking spaces.

Hopefully this virus will die in summer. I've got a lot of plans I really don't wish to cancel on.

ZeoStar March 20th, 2020 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheep (Post 10137697)
Meanwhile my state is at the top of case numbers in the US (2,600+ cases total so far), though far less deaths than the state with the second-highest number of cases, and less than the third. Things seem mostly as normal here tbh... our local grocery store is near empty for some things like meat, pasta, sanitation products, and even things like oranges + lemons (???), but otherwise I don't notice much different? Still a ton of people walking along the beach. Maybe there are a little less people out than normal but it's not enough for me to notice the difference in my neighborhood. Meanwhile, mom (who works what she considers a necessary job that she absolutely can't do from home.......) says there is almost no one on the buses to/from work.

In a way I see both sides here since total isolation would drive me completely crazy. My anxiety peaked back when I did nothing but sit on the computer and play games so I absolutely need to go outside for walks at least every couple of days or the anxiety would start to flare up again. I'm just careful not to get too close to people and of course will not go anywhere that has large gatherings unless absolutely necessary.

Downside is my doctor appt is March 25 and their next available appointment isn't until June so... I may have to go to that.. :x But will have to call and see if they're actually taking patients in person right now.

This is something I strongly relate with. I noticed a heavy increase in own my anxiety during off periods of school such as Spring and Summer breaks. No matter how well I'm doing, when those breaks hit and things slow down the anxiety returns. Our area has had a massive shut down so there isn't much to do here at this point. And I noticed a few days ago a return of anxiety and panic.

Similarly I also an appointment around that same time to get some stitches removed. Our county is desolate right now and there's a somber feeling whenever being out in public now. Shelves in stores are wiped out and most people have self quarantined.

Megan March 21st, 2020 10:07 AM

With all the restrictions that are currently introduced more and more I kinda reevaluated my life style and came to the ironic realization that my default way of living, the one I've followed for years, is already way more restrictive than anything they proposed. So whether I want or not: I'm following the rules without trying xD

As far as panic goes: I'm pretty calm about it. At the beginning there was a lot of anger due to pressure because of all the anticipation that made the air feel very heavy.

Heck, I even found toilet paper a couple days ago, so I'm set for the next 2-3 months.

From Tuesday on it's going to be home office for me, as well.

VisionofMilotic March 21st, 2020 12:49 PM

A lot of states across America are releasing percentages of their jail population right now because of the pandemic. Inmates are at increased risk of getting the virus because of sanitation issues and the size of the populations living in close proximity.

I understand that many of these will be low-level offenders, but this still gives me some pause however because that isn't every case. The details vary depending on the state, but in one of the counties in North Carolina (the state I live in) felons are also up for release.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/18/mecklenburg-begins-releasing-jail-inmates-avoid-cellblock-outbreak-covid-/

For the most innocent of offenses like smoking marijuana, I think it would be harmless to let that person go home, but that's about as far as I would go. Even freeing a burglar would sound a little risky to me.

Soaring Sid March 22nd, 2020 6:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nah (Post 10137660)
symptoms kind of seem flu-like, so if I do get it's not like I'm going to suffer horribly. Never really bought into the panic and paranoia a lot of people have either. Those never help, and the apocalypse is not coming, it's unlikely that things are going to become akin to an irradiated warzone.

More than seventy thousand patients have recovered around the world. I agree with the panic not helping. This indeed isn't the apocalypse. Shelves being empty doesn't sound good... Stay safe, though.

As for India:
->So far, there have been 341 cases reported, and 22 in my state. The government is tackling the situation well, in my opinion. Lockdown has been initiated, schools, malls and software companies shut, and train services have stopped, including Metro services.
-> Airports have mandatory screening and sanitary facilities are available. Any person returning from another nation have to follow self-quarantine.
->Spreading of panic and misinformation will lead to a six-month imprisonment in my state.
->Except for the sound of birds chirping, I couldn't hear a thing outside. It is a silent end to the spring, except for the appreciation part - at 5:00 PM, people around the nation clapped for showing appreciation for the medical workers. And as usual, there were some extras, with people blowing conch shells as well.
->Maharashtra (the state which has Mumbai as the capital) has seen the most number of cases. This is largely due to the irresponsibility of those people that refused to quarantine themselves :/ There hasn't been any hoarding and groceries are functioning.
-> Seventeen states haven't yet been affected, but they're still implementing precautionary measures.

And yes, it is annoying to stay at home and do nothing but read books and play games. It was just a week ago when I and my friends had planned for a daily game of cricket!

Yue Han March 22nd, 2020 8:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Soaring Sid (Post 10138628)
-> Airports have mandatory screening and sanitary facilities are available. Any person returning from another nation have to follow self-quarantine.

I'm really infuriated by the UK for not doing this. When I arrived on Friday evening I was free to just leave the airport as normal. I transited in Dubai, arguably the biggest and most international transit hub in the world and I highly doubt everyone on my flight into Manchester has decided to self quarantine for the advised amount of time.

Uragirimono March 22nd, 2020 12:29 PM

My mother and sisters keep breaking quarantine and leaving the windows and doors open... where I live had no cases at the start of the month to at least 40 now. I think I'm going to just hide in my room and not let anyone see/go near me.

pkmin3033 March 23rd, 2020 3:28 AM

I will hopefully be working from home by the end of the week, but whether I am or not today was the last day I'm going into the office. I had multiple panic attacks this morning and I ended up coming home early...I have apparently reached the limit of how much I can endure with this situation, and from now on I am going out only for walks to get some fresh air. As useless as the UK government has been, that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore good sense provided by their guidelines.

I'll have to go into work one more time to pick up my laptop and work mobile when they arrive, but I sure as hell won't be catching the bus to get there (although the bus I catch is relatively safe I suppose - they get cleaned thoroughly every night, and the one I catch is on its first trip...and there were only 2 other people on it this morning) and I won't be staying long. I am more than happy to work from home, but I am done risking my health for my job. Whilst the company I work for provides an essential service - it's a call centre for alarm units for the elderly and vulnerable - I work in the finance department, which is important, but not essential. All that is absolutely critical to the business is the corporate side of things, which I am only peripherally involved in, and can be done from home. So yeah. That aside...I have a medical condition that weakens my immune system, and severe anxiety. I should have been working from home last week.

My mother is now working from home - she works in a school - and all of my brother's appointments and care workers have been cancelled...that's already resulted in several loud and violent tantrums, so it's going to be an interesting few weeks. My father is a postal worker so he's still out and about...for the moment. Who knows how long that'll last for though. Everything in this country is coming to a grinding halt...better late than never I suppose.

Hope everyone is feeling well and staying safe.

colours March 23rd, 2020 3:30 AM

i just want to go for a walk in my local park but i guess we live in a society where that's too much to ask. :s just to get some fresh air and whatnot.

Yue Han March 23rd, 2020 3:41 AM

My two quarantine will actually end on my birthday so I'm going to treat myself to a nice walk to the local supermarket to hopefully find enough groceries to cook nice things for the next few days if the selfish pricks haven't raided everything first. And also providing we're still allowed to go to the supermarket at the time of our choice by then too. Crazy times.

Kanzler March 23rd, 2020 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Uragirimono (Post 10138746)
My mother and sisters keep breaking quarantine and leaving the windows and doors open... where I live had no cases at the start of the month to at least 40 now. I think I'm going to just hide in my room and not let anyone see/go near me.

The virus is spread by people, so just having the doors and windows open to let in fresh air is not an issue as long as you don't have random people walking in through that door and coughing in your windows.

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Originally Posted by colours (Post 10138933)
i just want to go for a walk in my local park but i guess we live in a society where that's too much to ask. :s just to get some fresh air and whatnot.

Going outside is OK but it's important to keep your social distance. The virus is spread mostly by people expelling their respiratory fluids by coughing or sneezing into tiny droplets, which will fall towards the ground because of gravity up to a distance of about 6 feet, so try to keep that distance, if not more, if you can from another person when you're out in public. As long as you're not closely congregating with people in groups, going outside is safe, and to be honest we all need to get our sunlight and exercise as more and more things get shut down. Where I live it's not too packed, and I was able to run for half an hour without getting close to another person.

I'm surprised that there have been 21 replies to this thread and the term "social distancing" has not popped up even a single time. I don't know where you guys have been getting your information, but it's important to get informed, and you may have to look for non-US sources of news, as unfortunately the delay of the US government acting will mean that COVID-19 will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future. Chances are that we may be looking to many months to over a year before all this is over. Make sure that not just your family, but your social circle and your community are educated because a pandemic like this requires a community effort to fight.

I can't say enough for y'all in the states, it's going to get worse. It only looks better than places like Asia and Europe because the US was exposed to the virus later than those other countries, meaning you too will progress closer to that point in the future. Chances are most of you guys here will be relatively fine, individually speaking, because the demographic here tends to be young, and up to 80% of those infected with the virus will not show symptoms. But that means the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions, especially those that compromise the immune system, are at much greater risk, and doubly so because those 80% of people who don't show symptoms can still spread the virus.

The worst part about the virus is how quickly it spreads. The virus can be deadly in and of itself, but by causing a large enough people to get sick it can overwhelm the healthcare system, and people will die because there was not enough healthcare resources to go around. Therefore, many of these potential deaths are PREVENTABLE!

Until we get a vaccine and produce and deliver it to 60%+ of the population (which is probably many months away) the only way to protect the most vulnerable of our community is to practice social distancing. Please, please, please spread the word. Don't go out where other people gather if you don't need to - getting food, medicine, and other necessities is OK. Pubs, movie theatres, and other such places where people gather would be high risk area for transmitting the virus. If you have to be out in public, try to keep that 6 feet distance. Practice good hand hygeine, which means washing your hands with water AND soap (a good lather will dissolve the virus allowing you to rinse it away). Hand sanitizer works too in a pinch. And keep in touch with your community and loved ones because we'll all need to keep our spirits up during these trying times. If we all work together, we will be saving lives.

CiCi March 23rd, 2020 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Uragirimono
My mother and sisters keep breaking quarantine and leaving the windows and doors open... where I live had no cases at the start of the month to at least 40 now. I think I'm going to just hide in my room and not let anyone see/go near me.
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Originally Posted by Kanzler
The virus is spread by people, so just having the doors and windows open to let in fresh air is not an issue as long as you don't have random people walking in through that door and coughing in your windows.


Not only that, but it's typically recommended to open your windows in order to ventilate your home. I'd assume the only time doing this would be a bad idea would be if you live in a sardine-style community where your homes are all packed on top of one another. As was mentioned, the virus only has at most a 10-foot trajectory before it comes to rest on the ground, so unless your homes are within like 5 feet of each other, having windows and doors open is generally a good thing.

With that said, people should avoid ever walking through their home with their shoes on. I already have a shoe rack and get really anal about not having shoes on in my house, but I know a lot of US homes just let people walk around with their shoes on. Not good. And yet another reason for ventilation if possible.

Soaring Sid March 23rd, 2020 7:23 PM

My mother will be following work from home from today onwards. But my father works in a pharmaceutical company, so he still has to go to work, especially because the company is focussing its efforts towards Chloroquinone production now.
Also, the Police are detaining anyone who is not following self-quarantine. Only essential services workers are allowed to be out of their homes (and grocery workers too - groceries are open still).

Yue Han March 24th, 2020 3:30 AM

So now the UK is in full lockdown and we cannot leave the home for nonessential reasons...yet my sister is off to see a friend later today. She's so selfish.

VisionofMilotic March 24th, 2020 6:09 AM

So the 2 trillion Coronavirus stimulus has not been able to advance through the Senate yet. They are short of the 60 votes needed for cloture.

The bill is supposed to help businesses that have been hit hard by the pandemic, lowering their taxes and helping them get loans. It's also intended to get several months of unemployment insurance to Americans who are put out of work, paid leave and more.

It has more in it for corporations than I would like, but hundreds of billions of dollars will be helping small businesses and every day people too at least, unlike the Wall Street bailout.

I believe that anything is still an improvement over the current situation, and hope this legislation still contains UBI (1,000 dollars a month to every American) by the time it is finished.

As I understand it Democrats are blocking it, saying it's too short term and there needs to be more in it, especially for the workers and the poor. Last I heard late on Sunday the vote was a deadlock 47-47.

I think this is the first time I agree with Mitch McConnell on something when he said, "This has got to stop and today is the day it has to stop. The country is out of time."

We have several hundreds dead in the United States and more than 30,000 people we know to be infected and growing. It may not be everything I desire, but we have got to get some form of aid out right now while people are hurting. I support putting as much into the social safety net as possible. Until it goes through congress though nobody gets any help, and nothing changes. So I wouldn't take my time.

Democrats also need to be careful in the year of a general election not to be seen as obstructive to a popular and anticipated relief package for the country. We're already not seeing leadership from Joe Biden, whose been barely visible, and is speaking nonsense by telling folks to go out (at risk of infection) to vote him in while boasting that he would veto Medicare for All even if it passed congress. Meanwhile Pelosi's arguing there should be more paperwork with a test for your income bracket before receiving 1,000 dollar benefits. This doesn't look competent. Americans can't afford to keep waiting for assistance. We have to be united on this. The stimulus is not only a step in the right direction, but essential.

moon March 24th, 2020 6:16 AM

And how much did they quickly toss at the stock market earlier, again? ):

Caite-chan March 24th, 2020 7:02 AM

I'm sorry but after the so-called "President" has been acting lately I disown him and refuse to call him "President" until he quits acting like a spoiled 3 year old. When he called a Reporter a "Terrible Person" for the question he asked that MANY have been asking put the nail in the coffin. I don't care if you like the question it is your duty as the dare I say Leader of this Country to answer the people's questions. I don't care for Mike Pence all that much either but he earned my respect when he answered the same question Trump refused to answer. I bet the world laughs at us with what we have in office.

Nah March 24th, 2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skywalker (Post 10139271)
And how much did they quickly toss at the stock market earlier, again? ):

something on the order of $1.5 trillion if I remember right

lovely country, yes? /s

Uragirimono March 24th, 2020 12:25 PM

Thank you guys for educating me on this, I think I'm just letting my worry for them get to my head since they could get more sick than me.

Neon Pink March 24th, 2020 12:40 PM

Trump said something about "reopening the country" within weeks, not months. What is everyone's take on this? Well, I feel like it's the Great Depression Part 2. Idk if where I live is in "lockdown" or not, but....it's like 95% is. EVERYTHING is closed except take out places. Even some of those are closed down. I think supermarkets are open still. My friend who works in one says they open early for the seniors, then stay open until 8pm for the rest of the public. Idk how true this is.

I'm afraid to formulate an opinion in all honesty.

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

Miss Wendighost March 24th, 2020 1:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBalloon (Post 10139419)
Trump said something about "reopening the country" within weeks, not months. What is everyone's take on this? Well, I feel like it's the Great Depression Part 2. Idk if where I live is in "lockdown" or not, but....it's like 95% is. EVERYTHING is closed except take out places. Even some of those are closed down. I think supermarkets are open still. My friend who works in one says they open early for the seniors, then stay open until 8pm for the rest of the public. Idk how true this is.

I'm afraid to formulate an opinion in all honesty.

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

Unrelated, but I've heard that Liberty University (Christian College in the US) is opening back up soon and forcing all employees to work. I'm not going to talk about Christianity itself here, but Liberty has made a stupid decision in allowing the floodgates to be opened.

On the topic of Trump, I think that this mismanagement is going to cost him the election. We wouldn't be in this mess if he didn't defund the CDC and call it a hoax for two weeks instead of taking this seriously.

Nah March 24th, 2020 1:33 PM

I don't know how it is in other countries, but the economic impact of the coronavirus has been half the conversation here in America. The push in the U.S. to lift restrictions and go back to normal sooner rather than later is largely because the powers that be want the populace to be allowed to feed big businesses again--businesses that have already gotten and will be getting another bailout in the days to come, and don't really need the help to begin with. The people in power are willing to risk the health and safety of the poor and middle class in order to make sure that the wealthiest people in the country don't become slightly less wealthy. Supporters of the desire to go back to normal in a weekish will of course, as always, dress it up as the government just doing what is really best for us, but a thin veil is still a thin veil.

Some people have apparently said that the current situation may last a year, and while I don't personally buy that it will go for that long, thinking that we can end this in a week or so is just the other extreme. Hospitals across the country are overwhelmed, there's a shortage of medical supplies+testing, and there's no sign that coronavirus is slowing down in the U.S. In my state (New Jersey), we now have nearly 3700 confirmed cases and 44 deaths today. The day before was 2800 cases, and the day before that was 1900 cases and 20 deaths iirc. You don't need to be a well-informed medical doctor to see that it's still too soon.

Fritz March 24th, 2020 2:39 PM

Think more shops need to start using methods like this guy in Australia:

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21747190.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_THP_CHP_240320SLUG_305JPG.jpg

Do get the feeling that the UK Lockdown could be made even stricter after seeing pictures/clips of the tube stations in London this morning. Seeing that made me think we weren't even in a lockdown to begin with.

gimmepie March 24th, 2020 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Caite-chan (Post 10139288)
I bet the world laughs at us with what we have in office.

We do.

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Originally Posted by Fritz (Post 10139459)
Think more shops need to start using methods like this guy in Australia:

That man is a genius. More of that please!

Kanzler March 24th, 2020 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBalloon (Post 10139419)
Trump said something about "reopening the country" within weeks, not months. What is everyone's take on this? Well, I feel like it's the Great Depression Part 2. Idk if where I live is in "lockdown" or not, but....it's like 95% is. EVERYTHING is closed except take out places. Even some of those are closed down. I think supermarkets are open still. My friend who works in one says they open early for the seniors, then stay open until 8pm for the rest of the public. Idk how true this is.

I'm afraid to formulate an opinion in all honesty.

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

Within weeks? Personally I think it's laughable. Lots of wishful thinking, and of course, people want to get back to business as usual. But you can't just talk or pray the virus away.

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Originally Posted by Nah (Post 10139437)
I don't know how it is in other countries, but the economic impact of the coronavirus has been half the conversation here in America. The push in the U.S. to lift restrictions and go back to normal sooner rather than later is largely because the powers that be want the populace to be allowed to feed big businesses again--businesses that have already gotten and will be getting another bailout in the days to come, and don't really need the help to begin with. The people in power are willing to risk the health and safety of the poor and middle class in order to make sure that the wealthiest people in the country don't become slightly less wealthy. Supporters of the desire to go back to normal in a weekish will of course, as always, dress it up as the government just doing what is really best for us, but a thin veil is still a thin veil.

That's interesting. There's been talk of the economic impact of coronavirus up here, but it's more so of a passing interest. The focus by and large is still on social distancing and hunkering down, and naming and shaming people and businesses who don't comply and the leaders who aren't doing enough. Goes to show how much mainstream media can influence the discourse at the grassroots level.

starseed galaxy auticorn March 25th, 2020 10:45 AM

Are you staying indoors during COVID-19?
 
If so, how are you coping with it?

That's what I'm doing. I don't want to risk it, even though I'm probably healthy enough to fight it... I just can't handle the stress of being quarantined and all that stuff. I'm trying to push myself to do whatever I can indoors. It's just hard because of my set routine. ;w; If it weren't for old episodes of Retro Replay + Troy Baker, I'd be losing my shit.

faf March 25th, 2020 12:47 PM

I'm used to staying indoors most of the time. I've been keeping myself entertained with drawing, video games, surfing the web, and general chores. The only time I do go outside is in my backyard.

Sami March 25th, 2020 12:49 PM

I don't even have the time to go outside these days, so no... unless i have to go outside the backyard for a rare occasion

pastelspectre March 25th, 2020 11:03 PM

We now have like 10? Cases in my town, so uh.. pretty epic. I’ve been staying inside as much as I can. It is taking a toll on my mental health though and I’m starting to go.. stir crazy? Is that the right wording?

But like, at least before I could go to work and I got out of the house at least 4-5 days a week, but now since I’m laid off temporarily I’m just stuck in the house a lot. I’m okay during the day most of the time cause I distract myself with the new animal crossing and Pokémon mystery dungeon, but at night it really gets to me when I don’t have anything to distract myself with. lately crankgameplays has been streaming though, sometimes late at night, so that’s something to keep me company at least.

This whole situation is just weird and it sucks. It’s a scary time.

CiCi March 25th, 2020 11:37 PM

Social isolation is nothing new for me. I stay home, I don't talk to people, I preoccupy myself with hobbies, cleaning, and caring for my animals, and I've always loved it that way. The only difference in my life is that now my fiancee works from home so he's here all the time. Which kinda messes with me cuz I love to be alone for extended periods and just having him here gives me introverted stress. Nothing personal.

Ivysaur March 26th, 2020 4:15 AM

I'm on my third week working for home, I only leave it to shop for basics and shops only allow 1 person at a time (5 at the supermarket) and we all queue leaving at least two metres between each other. Masks are a common sight. We still don't know when it's going to end, I miss going out so much but I'm not risking it.

Treecko March 26th, 2020 10:05 PM

I work as a cashier/bagger at a grocery store and this is the most stressed out I've felt at work ever. Two weekends ago was one of the busiest weekends we've had. Lines stretched down the aisles and it was non-stop customers with no rest in between. On a normal weekend it usually slows down by 6 but that weekend we were still busy until after 8 or 9. I got my breaks late cause we had so many panic buyers sweeping the shelves clean. Toilet paper was gone by Sunday and now we have to restock every few hours. The produce and meat department were cleaned out and a lot of our canned goods were gone. Sunday I actually broke down in front of customers and spent most of my break crying. I have never been this stressed in my life. Last week we changed our hours from 6am-midnight to 6am -10pm and now 6-7am is a special seniors only hour. When we close anyone scheduled after 10 has to clean the store until they clock out. We now routinely clean our registers every hour and have people designated to clean the shopping carts. Last week we started getting some temp workers and workers from other locations who had to shut down for a few days to restock until their's reopened. It's slower in there now since we've shortened hours and a stay-at-home order has been placed on our city. Since Monday I've been required to carry a letter with me when I go to work that says I'm allowed to be outside cause I work for an "essential business". So far I've not been questioned or pulled over by the police for being outside so I know they gave it to use just in case it's needed. Social distancing is not easy when you work at an "essential" business especially a grocery store. The smaller amount of people being there helps but I still find myself feeling anxious as I navigate the store even if I pass someone. Some people seem to get it and keep their distance from others but I still see groups of people shopping together. I've looked for empty aisles so I can avoid people as much as I can. I love when I get days off though cause I've taken advantage of them to do as much social distancing as possible. Staying inside and refusing to take a shift on days off. A few days ago they installed plexiglass on the checkouts to protect us a little. Only problem is that they put the smallest sheet on glass in front of the cash register that's no bigger than 4 feet and nothing else. I really don't feel safe behind there. Another grocery chain here has theirs stretched all the way down the belt and that's way better imo. I really wish this dies down soon cause I'm so tired of going to work everyday knowing my life is at risk. I'm tired of working long hours and cleaning everything. I hate having to wear gloves while checking just to feel safe. I considered buying a mask just for work but talked myself out of it cause others need them more than me. I worry about my dad who is 61 and has some blood pressure problems. He works for IKEA and I'm happy they closed their stores for a month and are still paying him cause it means now he has no choice but to stay home. I can't lose him to this virus I'm still very dependant on him. I still live with him cause I honestly can't afford to move out. He pays for every bill except my phone and streaming services and buys all the food for me. I can't afford to lose him right now. I really want him to survive this. I'm sorry for ranting, I'm just so tired. I'm not that scared of getting the virus myself, but I'm scared of everything else. I miss going out and seeing friends. I miss be able to go to Starbucks almost every day for coffee. I miss life honestly and want all this to end.

Brendino March 26th, 2020 10:42 PM

I work as management in a drug store chain and I'm mentally exhausted after each day at work. Thankfully a lot of people are understanding of some of the restrictions we're putting in place at this point (reduced hours, closing our pharmacy early so they can catch up, having special shopping hours in the morning for seniors, and in the evening for first responders/healthcare workers), but as a manager I get to deal with the people that JUST DON'T GET IT. I hate having to explain every few minutes that we don't have masks, toilet paper, hand sanitizer, etc., and no we aren't raising the prices on anything. And people making excuses as to why they should be allowed to shop during our restricted hours, when those are there for a reason.

Not to mention we're missing 1/4 of our staff right now, and we have employees calling in every day saying they're not coming into work for at least two weeks. I'm getting real tired of working 10+ hour days, while still trying to keep a smile on my face, not only for the customers, but for all of our staff too, and trying to assure them that everything's going to work out, when I'm not even sure of it myself.

Also, getting real pissed off at people who are coming in with their families, or in groups of 4+, or say they're just browsing. We're an essential service right now, we're not here just because you're bored and everything else is closed. If you don't need to be here, STAY. THE. FUCK. AT. HOME.

I just wish that people would realize this is a serious thing, and not opening their eyes to what's happening is putting themselves and everyone else around them at risk.

Fritz March 27th, 2020 4:21 AM

The Prime Minister of the UK, Boris Johnson, has tested positive for the virus and is now self-isolating. I guess other people in the government will need to do the same now and isolate themselves. Especially the Chancellor since he was with Boris yesterday when they were clapping for the NHS.

We're now into the fourth day of the three-week lockdown in the UK.

Sothis March 28th, 2020 12:38 AM

My country has implemented many financial programs and help for those affected.
We don't have to pay our car payment this month and my mother is paid while taking time off.

But also, I'm getting cabin fever, there's nothing to do. I can't enjoy my spring time this way.

Neon Pink March 28th, 2020 3:02 PM

OMG I feel the same way about the spring time. I look out the window, and I see the nice weather, and i'm like AWW MAN WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO NIIIICCCCEEE OUT?!?!?!?!?!! UGH! Such a waste of a nice day.

Anyway, i've been getting some weird things happening to me. No i'm NOT sick. First off, I feel like the house has been more....peaceful? It's weird. I'm getting along with everyone in the house, and doing a few chores here and there. Also, I thought I was going to sleep every day, but my body on weekdays kind of know when it's a weekday and wakes up at 7am automatically. On weekends I still sleep late, but on weekdays, it's like I can't sleep late. Also, one of my teachers somehow got my number and called me just to check up on me and give me...homework? Well it's one of my music teachers and he wanted me to learn a new song or two on the keyboard by the time we get back to school and before I could come up with an good response, he's like "Ok stay safe bye." So i'm screwed. I sort of don't want to go back to school. I'm 50/50 on this topic. It's a brand new world, a world we must cope with for an indefinite amount of time. I totally social distanced myself from all my rl friends both physically and emotionally. I just want to play my Switch and 3DS and play on my laptop. Lately, my legs feel like "jello" for lack of better words. My sense of self is calmer since after the whole incident last week. Maybe i'm a natural introvert? Hmm.

I still want businesses to open back up though. It's still boring here in this house and i'd like to go to...other places than the supermarket or take out places.

Treecko March 28th, 2020 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendino (Post 10140224)
Not to mention we're missing 1/4 of our staff right now, and we have employees calling in every day saying they're not coming into work for at least two weeks. I'm getting real tired of working 10+ hour days, while still trying to keep a smile on my face, not only for the customers, but for all of our staff too, and trying to assure them that everything's going to work out, when I'm not even sure of it myself.

Also, getting real pissed off at people who are coming in with their families, or in groups of 4+, or say they're just browsing. We're an essential service right now, we're not here just because you're bored and everything else is closed. If you don't need to be here, STAY. THE. FUCK. AT. HOME.

I just wish that people would realize this is a serious thing, and not opening their eyes to what's happening is putting themselves and everyone else around them at risk.

We've had several baggers/other workers take a leave of absence out of concern for their health. The temps we're getting mostly come from hotels and restaurants that aren't open right now.

People dont seem to get what social distancing means. The other day I was getting change for one of the cashiers and a family of 6 came in and blocked the pathway talking. Like normally that won't piss me off but now it really does. Only one or two people should be going in to get groceries. If you all need stuff just wait in your car and do it in shifts. I get if someone has young kids and doesn't have someone who can watch them while you do your shopping, that's fine. But if they have no reason to be there or you can find a sitter, then STAY HOME. It's not the time to stand in the middle of the aisle and gab with Susan while your toddler is crying cause they wanna go home. Like it's not that hard to keep your distance from everyone.

VisionofMilotic March 30th, 2020 5:45 AM

I think I may have sprained my back. Being a woman, I'm no stranger to some back soreness and aches and pain now and then, but this feels really different. Just doing everyday things like reaching down to pick up my pet's bowl and put some food in it sends sharp pains down my lower back that leave me howling, and make it hard to get back up. I can't slowly turn from one side of the bed to the other without feeling everything tense up badly. The only experience I can think of that felt similar was when I broke my arm as a kid and had to wear a cast.

I haven't done any heavy lifting or tripped over anything or recall anything in particular that would have hurt me. I think perhaps just all this being indoors sitting around and not walking like I normally would might have made me more suspectible to sprains. My posture has always been bad and I've maybe pulled a muscle.

My body has not been properly exercised in awhile.This gorgeous spring weekend normally would have been a good time to visit the city garden, walk the dogs, head to the gym and go swimming, go out shopping or head to the library. At least by now work would have normally begun and I would get some exercise there. I'm just sitting around at home though now.

I was hoping that I would feel better this morning than I did yesterday and that it was just some cramp or fluke, but the pain is getting way worse. I'll try ice, heating pads, pain meds from my medicine cabinet first in case it is not something as bad as I thought, but I am going to have to go to a doctor in the next few days if I'm not showing signs of improvement. That honestly scares me more than a back injury because I go to a state clinic, and there's going to be a lot of very sick people there and I am scared that I might come down with Corona just going to the doctor to get treatment for a relatively minor medical issue. If I am not better in the next couple days then I have likely badly sprained it or have a fracture and should see a doctor. But I am unsure whether it would do me more damage to stay at home and endure or go out for help and be exposed in a very high risk area.

Soaring Sid March 30th, 2020 6:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBalloon (Post 10140827)
OMG I feel the same way about the spring time. I look out the window, and I see the nice weather, and i'm like AWW MAN WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO NIIIICCCCEEE OUT?!?!?!?!?!! UGH! Such a waste of a nice day.

I know!!! The birds are having a party out here in my place, the sparrows and nightingales and mynas are all out there flying and singing in the daylight. Just hearing them makes me feel like going out. Also, are you intending to learn a new song?

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Originally Posted by VisionofMilotic (Post 10141419)
there's going to be a lot of very sick people there and I am scared that I might come down with Corona just going to the doctor to get treatment for a relatively minor medical issue. If I am not better in the next couple days then I have likely badly sprained it or have a fracture and should see a doctor. But I am unsure whether it would do me more damage to stay at home and endure or go out for help and be exposed in a very high risk area.

Ouch! I really hope it heals quick. Won't you contact a Doctor via phone call to find out if it's better to go or not? Take precautions if you're going. I sincerely wish you the best, VisionofMilotic!

Meganium March 30th, 2020 8:59 PM

Trust me, I am feeling the stiff muscles too. I honestly haven't had the motivation to exercise compared to before the pandemic became a thing because I was always on the move. Like most of you guys my life was just simply interrupted.

Week 3 of working from home and quite honestly I miss my colleagues, let alone all the chatter and the noise. All I hear these days now is my cat and drops of water at the bathroom faucet.

Texas just expanded an executive order to mandate a quarantine to those travelers arriving from covid-19 hotspots which included my home state of California. I was close to saying "screw this Imma go see my mom" but I changed my mind because I did not want the police to knock on my door unannounced just to check and see if I'm in the house. >_> It's tough out there.

It's weird for me to come back like this but I hope everyone of you guys feels safe! The world needs to heal and the one thing we can do right now is to stay connected.

CiCi March 30th, 2020 10:43 PM

I feel like the odd one out (what else is new, really?) as nothing in my life has changed at all. Not that there isn't chaos with this pandemic where I live, but my lifestyle of never leaving the house except to go into my backyard is exactly the same now as it used to be, only without my weekly trip to the grocery store (thank goodness for planning way back in early February). I've kept my windows open when it's warm out and I get a lot of creative work done. My house is gorgeously clean and I mowed my lawn the other day. Things are going well for me so far :)

ROMhacker254 April 1st, 2020 12:40 AM

Honestly I'm one of the fortunate people where covid 19 hasn't really affected me (... well yet I should say.) I'm an introvert anyway, so I don't mind staying in the house well... I don't go out much anyway...

Well it doesn't mean I DON'T like going out at all.. but for extraverts or party animals it must be hard...

And people who's families have been affected (by deaths... ) :( Really sad.

I still have to be careful though, obviously of course, I don't want to get anybody sick.

I got a new pet bird a few weeks ago... so lots of bonding time and trick teaching I guess. And other things such as puzzles etc... Haha. I'll talk more later GTG.

Taemin April 1st, 2020 8:16 PM

My job is more affected than my home life, because we have so many rules in place for this thing.

Also the hours changed, so I go in earlier and leave earlier, which isn't bad, really.

I was already kind of a lone wolf when not at work, though, so the only thing that's changed is that I used to randomly go places just to chill and walk around, and would sometimes see friends. Can't do those things as much now, because of the lockdown. I guess I consider myself lucky I was already used to be kind of alone on days off, though I was trying to change that within the last couple of years -- but right now, my life progress isn't as important as everyone's health, for sure.

I really hope this doesn't get much worse, but I'm sure it will.

Sothis April 1st, 2020 9:24 PM

Nova Scotia has now over 100 cases. We are the most densely populated province so it's more dangerous, I'm kinda scared.

Palamon April 3rd, 2020 8:06 AM

There's now over a million cases worldwide, and that makes me anxious... I don't think this is getting better any time soon.

colours April 3rd, 2020 8:56 AM

could be that more and more people are getting tested and are testing positive as opposed to things actually getting worse. i can only hope those that are testing positive are quarantining so they don't make the problem worse.

Nah April 3rd, 2020 12:16 PM

Last I heard, it's believed that it's going to peak in the US at about the end of the month.

But we'll see what happens, this is sort of a day-by-day situation.

Hyzenthlay April 6th, 2020 5:37 AM

We're doing pretty good in WA so far; at least it hasn't spiked too badly like in other states. It's just... heart-wrenching to hear about the death tolls across the world. :( My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected by this crisis.

As for me and my family, we're perfectly content with not going out. We live on 5 acres in a rural area so we're very privileged during all this. I study online anyway, as well, and to be honest, I only leave the house every few months if I have to. :P Where social butterflies are concerned, I'm in the pupal phase. Social distancing is my element!

Bellsprout April 6th, 2020 12:50 PM

So far the 'rona has only brought me blessings. I'm working less and getting paid the same, I'm getting the freshest/fastest Chinese food of my life, and there's barely anyone on the road when I'm driving. The one flaw has been the amount of people when I'm grocery shopping/stores closing early so I have to go in the morning rather than at night BUT its barely a flaw in comparison

Cubeth April 6th, 2020 1:10 PM

I think that part of the good stuff that comes from living in the nowhere land of Chile is that when stuff like this happens, stuff isn't as horrible as in Santiago or other cities. I personally am doing perfectly fine without going outside much, what worries me is the economy drop Chile's gonna have after this because the pandemic came in the worst possible time for the country.

pastelspectre April 27th, 2020 2:18 PM

My work opens back up this Friday and I’m quite terrified. I have a mask and everything so I’m prepared, but I work in retail at a thrift store and I just know the moment we open back up, regulars and other customers will start flocking here since they have nothing else to do and I’ll be at a huge risk.

Hermione Granger April 27th, 2020 3:09 PM

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Originally Posted by phantomnestor (Post 10151902)
My work opens back up this Friday and I’m quite terrified. I have a mask and everything so I’m prepared, but I work in retail at a thrift store and I just know the moment we open back up, regulars and other customers will start flocking here since they have nothing else to do and I’ll be at a huge risk.

Hopefully you don't get the virus, but I hope people will atleast try to practice social distancing at the thrift store you work at.

Social Distancing should be a thing to keep in mind for a good while.

Adam Levine April 28th, 2020 9:47 PM

Community quarantine here was supposed to be until the 30th, but then they extended it again. Seems some areas will be free soon, though, so I think it's a good sign.

Sheep April 29th, 2020 11:17 AM

my friend's mom has been on a ventilator for over 3 weeks now, and her oxygen hasn't improved yet. it's gotten to the point where continuing use of the machine is a risk to her life and nurses are already telling her family to get ready for an arranged meeting to see her one last time. such a horrible feeling...

Meganium April 29th, 2020 2:03 PM

I was a little hush hush about it, but I can finally say that I recently recovered from corona.

It was a rough couple of weeks, but thankfully my case was mild. Out of all of us here in the household my dad did not do so well as he had to go through some therapy to bring his oxygen levels back to normal. He's okay now.

Corona can really trick you. One day you feel fine, the next day you're basically confined in bed because your muscles are paralyzed and have a 102* fever. I even lost my smell. It recently came back yesterday, so I can finally smell my own perfume. lol. Just recently all of my normal energy, including my craving for alcohol has returned. Man, I missed that feeling.

Take care of yourselves, y'all.

BettyJimbles May 7th, 2020 2:34 AM

Is it the USA that people are going back to work? I hope you will all be alright!

Nah May 7th, 2020 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyJimbles (Post 10155631)
Is it the USA that people are going back to work? I hope you will all be alright!

A lot of the states have started to re-open yeah. They probably shouldn't be, but that's the US for ya.

colours May 7th, 2020 4:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nah (Post 10155655)
A lot of the states have started to re-open yeah. They probably shouldn't be, but that's the US for ya.

and this is why we're probably looking at a second wave later this year 🙃

VisionofMilotic May 7th, 2020 10:51 AM

I am worried about most people going back to work right now in the USA too. I know it's hard on a lot us financially and emotionally to stay at home like this for so long, but just looking at the numbers of Coronavirus cases I think it is better to err on the side of caution. We are nearing 75,000 deaths in the states. Over a million people have gotten Covid, and it's likely worse than even those statistics.

There was last month a test sampling for antibodies on customers in various groceries stores around New York. 3,000 random people were studied, and lots of them tested positive who didn't even know that they were sick. The thing that is so insidious about COVID19 is the long gestation period. The symptoms don't show immediately, so you carry on doing what you have to do each day without realizing you are infected, and by the time symptoms do surface you could have spread the disease to others. Some people are also asymptomatic, and carry it without ever knowing but are still able to pass it to others. The unnerving thing about that study is that the results suggested as much as 20% of the population of New York might actually be infected. It isn't all bad news in the study, because some of these people could be immune, so while the disease might be even more infectious than we thought it might also not have as high of a mortality rate than we thought. We just don't everything about this virus yet.

https://www.livescience.com/covid-antibody-test-results-new-york-test.html

New York in isn't one of the states that has ended the quarantine, and I think that is as it should be since it is so bad there right now, but the the vast majority of states have been at least partially re-opened by their governors or will re-open soon. The reason this is concerning is to me is that these states are aren't opening up because they are all low risk. The number of cases of covid are not going down throughout most of the country, the amount of cases are still about the same, and the cases in many states are actually rising according to the data available. Some of the states that have re-opened for business or are getting ready to re-open are Maryland, Oklahoma, Maine, New Hampshire, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska and my home state of North Carolina, and all of these states have seen growth in the amount of Coronavirus cases, not reduction.

Here are the states that are trying to run like they normally would.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/states-reopen-map-coronavirus.html

But here are the numbers of covid cases reported in each state.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The two are often not aligning.

We are just rushing the economy re-opened for the money whether things look better or not, and it could make many more people sick and set us backward on the road to recovery rather than moving us forward. I am praying for us all to make it through this terrible time.

Sheep May 8th, 2020 5:17 PM

my mom's job will be working from home until at least may 31, fortunately. dad meanwhile goes back to work on sunday (he was on a two-week vacation), since he's an essential worker (city bus driver).

meanwhile my friend lost her mom today. she was on a ventilator for over a month and they couldn't keep her on it anymore due to excessive damage to her lungs. passed 20 minutes after she was taken off of it, and two days before mother's day too..it's heartbreaking...

Olivia R. May 9th, 2020 8:43 AM

Been having coughing fits since March, and I haven't actually seen a doctor yet. Most of the time in my case it's because of spring allergies or sinus but I really am not certain about anything anymore. None of my family is sick sick at this time, but I still have a bit to fear. I at least socially distance myself from others on a daily basis but I have folks who don't do this and I'm worried about them and the people they interact with.

VisionofMilotic May 19th, 2020 1:31 PM

Well, every cloud has a silver lining. Carbon emissions have dramatically fallen since the lockdown, so that's a touch of good news for the environment at least. So far this year our greenhouse gas output across the word was reduced by 17% according to recent studies. Whereas over the last decade we had seen an increase in Co2 emissions by 1% each year by comparison. That's amazing.

https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/study-covid-19-shutdowns-cut-greenhouse-gas-emissions-17

Maybe this challenging time could become an opportunity for us as a people to re-evaluate what we truly need to get by on everyday, and where there is more room to conserve than we may have guessed. Do we have to drive daily? If so do we have to make as many different stops as we may have casually done before? Some weekends we can stay at home, and find sources of entertainment right under our nose rather than heading out to the beauty salon, movie theater, mall or a restaurant every Friday or Saturday night. I am gardening, trying out new cooking recipes, and reading more than I did before the economy shut down. School and jobs online could also become better assimilated into the society. I have a glimmer of hope at least.

Nah May 19th, 2020 1:34 PM

As nice as it would be for some positive change to come from this pandemic, all I really expect right now is that for the most part things are pretty much going to go back to exactly how they were before covid.

Palamon May 19th, 2020 2:19 PM

I really hope that, at the very least, that after this pandemic is over, we don't go back to using greenhouse gasses and raising carbon emission again. Co2 emission being down 17% is truly one of the very few good things that's come out of this pandemic.

Joey Montag May 19th, 2020 4:53 PM

i know this has been going on for months but it's kinda sad scrolling through posts from march, april, may and here we still are locked inside our homes.
i'm working from home so fortunately i can busy my mind with other things.
my biggest challenge right now is looking like a disheveled caveman. yesterday i gave up on the barbers and walked about the city in search for a pair of hair buzzers.... all... sold... out!!

but i understand that's a small problem to have, and i hope the people around the globe can go back to normal soon<33
stay safe my pokepeople

Sheep May 21st, 2020 10:35 AM

my main inconvenience about not being able to go outside and do my usual things is not being able to go to the cosmetologist :( i have a little bit of acne i want cleaned, and she also works on my eyebrows which i don't want to do myself at home in fear of messing up. i'll trim around ever so slightly but not too much haha. hopefully i'll be able to go see her one more time before i fly off to travel for another half year.

Lunar May 21st, 2020 10:53 AM

Two months in and I think we can finally see the start of return to normal life in here the UK next month - hopefully! We have the second highest death toll in the world and have been badly hit by it, but I'm fortunate to say after moving back to my home town for lockdown (a small town in the countryside) I've not really been affected by it too much. I've walked our dog everyday and kept exercising, and with video games and assignments due there's always something to keep me occupied for now.

The hardest thing has definitely not being able to see my girlfriend or family for like 10 weeks, that's been pretty tough for sure :( just hoping there's some light at the end of the tunnel next month! Hope everyone is safe and well :)

VisionofMilotic May 25th, 2020 9:27 AM

Covid has turned so many lives upside down. My dad is a college professor. Because of the pandemic he had to finish teaching the semester online after the campus was evacuated. My dad is a really extraverted and animated fellow person. He talks a mile a minute and can't resist a joke. The more people the merrier. Being in a classroom is like an actor being on stage for him. He is coping with the technical aspects of holding class exclusively online, but really misses the social interaction.

This fall the college campus will open back up. He is cynical about it. He knows how the game goes, and that schools make more money when people are physically in attendance then they do online. Students pay for room for room and board, meals, and use facilities there like the laundry, vending machine, book stores. He is worried about everyone going back to normal next school year. He is a senior citizen, and is considered to be a high risk individual, he has a series of other chronic medical conditions he is dealing with. He still likes teaching, but he is legitimately concerned about his health if he is exposed to the virus in the classroom.

He is seriously considering retiring because teaching always online isn't the same to him, he doesn't feel inspired, and he also doesn't want to increase his chances of exposure by teaching on campus. It could be life-threatening. He texted me, asking what I thought of the situation, asking for my opinion. I honestly just want him to be happy and safe.

If he retires he will be in a financially comfortable situation, so he doesn't have to keep working just to pay the bills. He has years worth of savings he put aside for the day of his retirement, he owns his house, he has no debts, he has a nice-sized pension awaiting him and will collect social security. So he's okay if he retires. He teaches not because he has to, but because he likes it.

I'm worried about him teaching on campus too, and don't want him to get sick. I would prefer he stay home, but I do have some reservations about him retiring permanently because I know how he loves what he does. I don't want the fire to go out of him, and think he might get bored or depressed if he stops working. He is a passionate, high energy man.

I'll support him no matter what he decides, but this is what I texted him back. I hope it makes sense.

Spoiler:

I'm doing alright. I love you. This is a major decision, and I am touched that you have come to me for help. You help me when in need, so let me give back to my dad. What is most important to me is your happiness and safety.

I understand why teaching in class at this time would give you pause. If you think it could be dangerous, then trust your instincts. We can't be expected to give our all in a potentially unsafe environment.

At the same time we can't live the rest of our lives in fear, never doing any of the things we want to do again because there's the risk we might get sick. I don't think retiring necessarily has to be the the next move because the pandemic is going on. Do you still want to teach, and get any satisfaction out of what you do? That's the real question I think. Would you retire if the pandemic hadn't happened?

Workin online might not be the same as it is in person, but if you retire then you are not teaching at all. The situation in the world could change. There is a lot of uncertainty right now, and retirement is a permanent choice. Perhaps being on campus this fall would be higher risk, but next Spring or the following year things might stabilize, and inside the school would be an environment where you feel safe and comfortable again.

What I know about you is that you also love to talk. You love to share your experiences, and meet new people, share your knowledge and help students grow. You live for what you do. Could you be bored if you retire? I don't think I would retire if a thought I would really miss what I do.

What you have to figure out is are you ready to finish your journey at college? Are you eager to lay down the burden, relax, and explore and enjoy other parts of life? What would you like to do with your time instead of teaching? You have mentioned retiring before, and you have given many years of yourself and have surely earned a comfortable retirement now if that is what you want. If you retire I just want to make sure it's the decision would have come to anyway, and not just because it's a challenging situation right now. What do you think your calling is right now?

If you still really like teaching, but don't like doing it online then online could be a temporary means to end, rather than long-term. You could try teaching online for one semester. You might start to like it better, if you don't maybe by the next semester the outside situation may have improved. If it hasn't you could still retire. Retirement will always be there as an option. You don't have to decide now. You could also try a leave of absence first to see how you would like the life of a retiree, and if you would be happiest retired or teaching, whether it is teaching on campus or online.

My advice would be take it slow. I love and support you whatever you decide.

VisionofMilotic July 8th, 2020 5:29 PM

Trump is pretending that pandemic is under control for political reasons, and twisting the arm of state governors to open up their schools by fall, the cold and flu season, when the pandemic is expected to get worst. Not online, not part time, full re-openings for kids. The problem with that is we have 3 million confirmed cases of Covid here in the U.S, with a spike of 60,000 new ones in just 24 hours. More than 130,000 Americans have lost their lives. Have mercy on us all.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/coronavirus-trump-threatens-to-cut-school-funding-slams-cdc-reopening-guidelines.html

Palamon July 8th, 2020 6:04 PM

Fuck Trump. This pandemic is NOT under control. Don't open schools. Kids will spread the Coronavirus and make this worse. Delay school. Stop acting like this is over when it's not. Dumbass...

Also, my area has reached phase 4. I expect NY to have spiking cases yet again soon.

Sothis July 8th, 2020 10:00 PM

It's really frightening how selfish people are being.
"Making me wear a mask goes against my rights" Well guess what? Others have a right not to die!
"Masks make it hard to breathe" So does a primarily respiratory virus. My lungs suck but I still do it.

No one is saying you HAVE to stay home, but be mindful when you go out? There's also like Covid deniers and I wish my brain were that smooth.

colours July 8th, 2020 10:41 PM

i mean, maybe i'm one of the few people not shocked so far even though i maybe should be? but this seems to be par for the course for the trump administration to do (insert completely dumbfuck thing here) for the sole purpose of energizing the hard ceiling of 40% or so of the US population that gives a shit about his opinions.

all i have to say is that the remaining four months until the election is likely to be the longest four months of any of our lives. if you think this is batshit, i think the public completely forgot about trump's plan to gut the postal service because mail-in votes are The Worst so definitely be on the lookout for that since iirc they're going to run out of money by September? who knows what'll happen then.

and by the way: mail-in votes are rather slow to count. so it won't be election day. it'll be more like election week.

Nah July 9th, 2020 5:13 AM

I’m not surprised either. But it’s still not good regardless.

Caite-chan July 9th, 2020 5:18 AM

I'm just sick and tired of his utter bullshit. He wants to remove everything Obama did but has NO plan what so ever for a replacement. Unless he thought of it he doesn't want it. Thinks COVID is a joke even though people are dying. His life is a joke and yet he's still here.

Palamon July 9th, 2020 10:24 AM

Worse yet, Trump pulled us out of WHO. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-who.html
I don't know why he hates humans so much, I can't wait until November. u_u

Sothis July 9th, 2020 12:21 PM

His cult like following is worrisome too. I fear he'll win.

Caite-chan July 10th, 2020 1:26 PM

Michigan just did this today!!!

I can see soooooo many people claim that can't deal with wearing a face mask just so they don't have to wear one. Had people just wore one in the first place we wouldn't have this shit. You act like you're going to be in the store ALL DAY! Wear one or stay the fuck home and use a delivery service.

Nah July 15th, 2020 12:23 PM

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/15/891351706/white-house-strips-cdc-of-data-collection-role-for-covid-19-hospitalizations

can't say that this is good

Palamon July 16th, 2020 12:06 PM

Why is Trump such a stupid idiot? What is he trying to accomplish by stripping data of covid hospitalizations? Pretend like the pandemic is over? Well, it isn't, heartless dumbass.

Nah July 16th, 2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Palamon (Post 10182283)
Why is Trump such a stupid idiot? What is he trying to accomplish by stripping data of covid hospitalizations? Pretend like the pandemic is over? Well, it isn't, heartless dumbass.

I'm pretty sure that making it so that hospitals are required to send their data to the White House's new database is little more than an attempt to control the narrative in Trump's favor, as the truth that the numbers show create an inconvenience for said narrative.

Over the months it's been been pretty clear that there's a divide in how the covid-19 situation is viewed. Since early on, the Trump administration has claimed that it has been doing a good job handling it, that "we can't let the cure be worse than the virus", blaming others for any mistakes, and going so far as to sometimes downplay the threat of the virus. Most disease experts and medical workers have, as far as I know, more or less said the opposite (that this has been a train wreck with another one waiting to slam into it), including the guy who's been on the White House's coronavirus team and national television for months (Anthony Fauci).

They are of course trying to dress this up as just replacing a slow, outdated system or something, but are we really supposed to believe that some private company's new, untested system is supposed to be better than the system of a 70+ year old government organization whose focus is on public health?

But as for why they'd do this in the first place....well, America has never really cared about its people, and this is just another example of that.

VisionofMilotic July 18th, 2020 10:03 AM

My mom this afternoon told me that she went to the store. Now her practice is to leave a mask in her car, and put it on only once she arrives at her destination. She hates them, finds them uncomfortable and difficult to breathe in and wears them for as little as possible. Fair enough, as long as she still uses it once she's in a public place I don't care.

But she tells me today though that when she went into the store shopping she forgot to put her face mask on entirely. She got out of the car, and it slipped her mind to get the mask out of the glove compartment or wherever she keeps it.

My mother can be sweet, but really absent-minded unfortunately. What really concerns me is that while shopping she realized that she didn't have the mask, but then said she just "didn't feel like" going back to the car, and kept right on her way down the aisle. Frankly, I wish they had asked her to leave the store like they're legally supposed to, for her own health sake and the sake of everyone else in the store.

I'm quite worried about my mom, and myself. I'm guzzling down airborne, hoping I don't get infected since we stay together. She's not concerned in her typical bouncy way, brushing off any possibility that she's sick. That was not cool what she just did. Ma, c'mon.

ZeoStar July 18th, 2020 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VisionofMilotic (Post 10182925)
My mom this afternoon told me that she went to the store. Now her practice is to leave a mask in her car, and put it on only once she arrives at her destination. She hates them, finds them uncomfortable and difficult to breathe in and wears them for as little as possible. Fair enough, as long as she still uses it once she's in a public place I don't care.

But she tells me today though that when she went into the store shopping she forgot to put her face mask on entirely. She got out of the car, and it slipped her mind to get the mask out of the glove compartment or wherever she keeps it.

My mother can be sweet, but really absent-minded unfortunately. What really concerns me is that while shopping she realized that she didn't have the mask, but then said she just "didn't feel like" going back to the car, and kept right on her way down the aisle. Frankly, I wish they had asked her to leave the store like they're legally supposed to, for her own health sake and the sake of everyone else in the store.

I'm quite worried about my mom, and myself. I'm guzzling down airborne, hoping I don't get infected since we stay together. She's not concerned in her typical bouncy way, brushing off any possibility that she's sick. That was not cool what she just did. Ma, c'mon.

I've felt stressed in a similar way, since my family will go into the most crowded shopping areas on weekends. Not because it's necessary, mostly it's just for the sake of going out and spending money. Sometimes it'll be 4 days in a row of shopping. Thankfully they do wear masks, but every time I feel like it's still a gamble. Then during those trips they also stop for outdoor dining.

There's also constantly hired workers around the property, nearly every single day. None of them ever wear masks and it's very uncomfortable. The only ones who do wear them are the domestic workers who simply come around and clean.

Another side of family does not wear masks at all. They believe the virus is exaggerated media propaganda created to make the president look bad.

I've mostly stayed in, but I still anticipate getting sick with this because of how it's handled in my family. There was also a family party planned in early July, but there was enough sense to call it off. I didn't plan on going anyways.

Sothis July 18th, 2020 7:20 PM

This pandemic is bringing out the worst in people, I find. Everyone's on edge and well, mean.
However, they're testing vaccines in my country, I hope it's successful

E.C. July 24th, 2020 5:29 PM

Just thought i'd share my own personal experience with the virus and how it impacted my life. I was still employed while this whole pandemic was going on. My coworkers and I brushed it off as something that wasn't so serious and that it probably wasn't going to last long. Some of my coworkers didn't believe the virus was real and it was just made up by the government for idk what reason,(idiots i know). I let myself get convinced by what they were saying so I didn't take the whole situation as serious as i should have. Anyways as the time went by we started having meetings at work about some of my coworkers catching the virus and falling ill. Some of them were close friends of mine as well so hearing about it made me a bit sad because in some cases the virus can be fatal. That's when I started taking this seriously and started taking better care of myself for my safety and for the safety of others, but unfortunately it was too late. By early june I get laid off and that same day I lost my job I start developing symptoms. I thought it was just a cold I caught from showering and going outside real early in the morning but not even a few days later I start having worse symptoms like fevers, loss of taste, and difficulty breathing. I immediately go to the hospital to get tested for the virus and it turns out that I was positive. luckily for me thought the virus didn't affect my health as badly as others who unfortunately passed away. One of my cousins actually caught the virus during the same time that i did, and we got a call a few weeks ago that he passed away leaving behind his wife and 2 kids. So I just want to say that I lucked out because aside from the difficulty breathing I had that went away pretty quickly, my health is still pretty much the same, and I just had another test yesterday to see if i'm still positive. According to my doctor he said I should be good but sometimes I still feel like I have a hard time breathing. I'm guessing the damage the virus did to my lungs will stay with me. I don't know but all I know is that this virus isn't a joke and I hate that some people act like it is. So to sum it up just do your part and protect yourselves guys.

tldr: caught virus because I didn't take it seriously, got lucky and only had mild symptoms, cousin catches the virus as well, dies, I lose my job and now I just spend most of my day on the internet. Waiting on my 2nd test results to see if i'm still positive.

Also sorry for so much text and ignore any spelling or grammar mistakes I made. I just typed it out as quickly as I could. I missed out more important things that went on in my life but I don't want to stretch my story out any longer

Neil Peart July 25th, 2020 4:15 AM

Finland got off easy, much easier than our neighbor Sweden, who tried to go for herd immunity and failed big time. There is no herd immunity with this disease. Now, everything is reopening and people are starting to crowd again, which is really stupid and makes me want to go into town even less. Many people here are also drunks and have wasted immune systems because of it. There will be a second wave; it's only a question of when. This whole thing, worldwide, has brought out the absolute worst in people and their governments, and if I never have to shake another human being's hand for as long as I live, I'm better off for it. I can't believe how selfish people are being with a disease that can literally kill you, no matter who you are. The arrogance of humankind. Very pathetic.

Sothis August 26th, 2020 11:45 PM

A man in BC (British Colombia) hosted a party which isn't allowed in that province due to the pandemic social distancing requirements. He was given a fine of $2000 for it and what does he do? Host another party! Is this man rich that's 4000 he'll be paying. Not to mention putting others in danger.

LadyLurantis940 August 27th, 2020 1:09 PM

My aunt decided to have her wedding that was thrown together in two months in the middle of the pandemic. My mother and I were the only ones who wore masks.

Ivysaur August 27th, 2020 2:04 PM

I just saw a bunch of people fully dressed in protective gear carrying a stretcher with a person covered by a white sheet into an ambulance.

Looking at the contagion data in my neighbourhood, I'm pretty scared.


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