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Yue Han March 24th, 2020 3:30 AM

So now the UK is in full lockdown and we cannot leave the home for nonessential reasons...yet my sister is off to see a friend later today. She's so selfish.

VisionofMilotic March 24th, 2020 6:09 AM

So the 2 trillion Coronavirus stimulus has not been able to advance through the Senate yet. They are short of the 60 votes needed for cloture.

The bill is supposed to help businesses that have been hit hard by the pandemic, lowering their taxes and helping them get loans. It's also intended to get several months of unemployment insurance to Americans who are put out of work, paid leave and more.

It has more in it for corporations than I would like, but hundreds of billions of dollars will be helping small businesses and every day people too at least, unlike the Wall Street bailout.

I believe that anything is still an improvement over the current situation, and hope this legislation still contains UBI (1,000 dollars a month to every American) by the time it is finished.

As I understand it Democrats are blocking it, saying it's too short term and there needs to be more in it, especially for the workers and the poor. Last I heard late on Sunday the vote was a deadlock 47-47.

I think this is the first time I agree with Mitch McConnell on something when he said, "This has got to stop and today is the day it has to stop. The country is out of time."

We have several hundreds dead in the United States and more than 30,000 people we know to be infected and growing. It may not be everything I desire, but we have got to get some form of aid out right now while people are hurting. I support putting as much into the social safety net as possible. Until it goes through congress though nobody gets any help, and nothing changes. So I wouldn't take my time.

Democrats also need to be careful in the year of a general election not to be seen as obstructive to a popular and anticipated relief package for the country. We're already not seeing leadership from Joe Biden, whose been barely visible, and is speaking nonsense by telling folks to go out (at risk of infection) to vote him in while boasting that he would veto Medicare for All even if it passed congress. Meanwhile Pelosi's arguing there should be more paperwork with a test for your income bracket before receiving 1,000 dollar benefits. This doesn't look competent. Americans can't afford to keep waiting for assistance. We have to be united on this. The stimulus is not only a step in the right direction, but essential.

moon March 24th, 2020 6:16 AM

And how much did they quickly toss at the stock market earlier, again? ):

Caite-chan March 24th, 2020 7:02 AM

I'm sorry but after the so-called "President" has been acting lately I disown him and refuse to call him "President" until he quits acting like a spoiled 3 year old. When he called a Reporter a "Terrible Person" for the question he asked that MANY have been asking put the nail in the coffin. I don't care if you like the question it is your duty as the dare I say Leader of this Country to answer the people's questions. I don't care for Mike Pence all that much either but he earned my respect when he answered the same question Trump refused to answer. I bet the world laughs at us with what we have in office.

Nah March 24th, 2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skywalker (Post 10139271)
And how much did they quickly toss at the stock market earlier, again? ):

something on the order of $1.5 trillion if I remember right

lovely country, yes? /s

Uragirimono March 24th, 2020 12:25 PM

Thank you guys for educating me on this, I think I'm just letting my worry for them get to my head since they could get more sick than me.

Neon Pink March 24th, 2020 12:40 PM

Trump said something about "reopening the country" within weeks, not months. What is everyone's take on this? Well, I feel like it's the Great Depression Part 2. Idk if where I live is in "lockdown" or not, but....it's like 95% is. EVERYTHING is closed except take out places. Even some of those are closed down. I think supermarkets are open still. My friend who works in one says they open early for the seniors, then stay open until 8pm for the rest of the public. Idk how true this is.

I'm afraid to formulate an opinion in all honesty.

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

Miss Wendighost March 24th, 2020 1:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBalloon (Post 10139419)
Trump said something about "reopening the country" within weeks, not months. What is everyone's take on this? Well, I feel like it's the Great Depression Part 2. Idk if where I live is in "lockdown" or not, but....it's like 95% is. EVERYTHING is closed except take out places. Even some of those are closed down. I think supermarkets are open still. My friend who works in one says they open early for the seniors, then stay open until 8pm for the rest of the public. Idk how true this is.

I'm afraid to formulate an opinion in all honesty.

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

Unrelated, but I've heard that Liberty University (Christian College in the US) is opening back up soon and forcing all employees to work. I'm not going to talk about Christianity itself here, but Liberty has made a stupid decision in allowing the floodgates to be opened.

On the topic of Trump, I think that this mismanagement is going to cost him the election. We wouldn't be in this mess if he didn't defund the CDC and call it a hoax for two weeks instead of taking this seriously.

Nah March 24th, 2020 1:33 PM

I don't know how it is in other countries, but the economic impact of the coronavirus has been half the conversation here in America. The push in the U.S. to lift restrictions and go back to normal sooner rather than later is largely because the powers that be want the populace to be allowed to feed big businesses again--businesses that have already gotten and will be getting another bailout in the days to come, and don't really need the help to begin with. The people in power are willing to risk the health and safety of the poor and middle class in order to make sure that the wealthiest people in the country don't become slightly less wealthy. Supporters of the desire to go back to normal in a weekish will of course, as always, dress it up as the government just doing what is really best for us, but a thin veil is still a thin veil.

Some people have apparently said that the current situation may last a year, and while I don't personally buy that it will go for that long, thinking that we can end this in a week or so is just the other extreme. Hospitals across the country are overwhelmed, there's a shortage of medical supplies+testing, and there's no sign that coronavirus is slowing down in the U.S. In my state (New Jersey), we now have nearly 3700 confirmed cases and 44 deaths today. The day before was 2800 cases, and the day before that was 1900 cases and 20 deaths iirc. You don't need to be a well-informed medical doctor to see that it's still too soon.

Fritz March 24th, 2020 2:39 PM

Think more shops need to start using methods like this guy in Australia:

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21747190.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_THP_CHP_240320SLUG_305JPG.jpg

Do get the feeling that the UK Lockdown could be made even stricter after seeing pictures/clips of the tube stations in London this morning. Seeing that made me think we weren't even in a lockdown to begin with.

gimmepie March 24th, 2020 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Caite-chan (Post 10139288)
I bet the world laughs at us with what we have in office.

We do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz (Post 10139459)
Think more shops need to start using methods like this guy in Australia:

That man is a genius. More of that please!

Kanzler March 24th, 2020 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBalloon (Post 10139419)
Trump said something about "reopening the country" within weeks, not months. What is everyone's take on this? Well, I feel like it's the Great Depression Part 2. Idk if where I live is in "lockdown" or not, but....it's like 95% is. EVERYTHING is closed except take out places. Even some of those are closed down. I think supermarkets are open still. My friend who works in one says they open early for the seniors, then stay open until 8pm for the rest of the public. Idk how true this is.

I'm afraid to formulate an opinion in all honesty.

If I said anything wrong, please let me know.

Within weeks? Personally I think it's laughable. Lots of wishful thinking, and of course, people want to get back to business as usual. But you can't just talk or pray the virus away.

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Originally Posted by Nah (Post 10139437)
I don't know how it is in other countries, but the economic impact of the coronavirus has been half the conversation here in America. The push in the U.S. to lift restrictions and go back to normal sooner rather than later is largely because the powers that be want the populace to be allowed to feed big businesses again--businesses that have already gotten and will be getting another bailout in the days to come, and don't really need the help to begin with. The people in power are willing to risk the health and safety of the poor and middle class in order to make sure that the wealthiest people in the country don't become slightly less wealthy. Supporters of the desire to go back to normal in a weekish will of course, as always, dress it up as the government just doing what is really best for us, but a thin veil is still a thin veil.

That's interesting. There's been talk of the economic impact of coronavirus up here, but it's more so of a passing interest. The focus by and large is still on social distancing and hunkering down, and naming and shaming people and businesses who don't comply and the leaders who aren't doing enough. Goes to show how much mainstream media can influence the discourse at the grassroots level.

starseed galaxy auticorn March 25th, 2020 10:45 AM

Are you staying indoors during COVID-19?
 
If so, how are you coping with it?

That's what I'm doing. I don't want to risk it, even though I'm probably healthy enough to fight it... I just can't handle the stress of being quarantined and all that stuff. I'm trying to push myself to do whatever I can indoors. It's just hard because of my set routine. ;w; If it weren't for old episodes of Retro Replay + Troy Baker, I'd be losing my shit.

faf March 25th, 2020 12:47 PM

I'm used to staying indoors most of the time. I've been keeping myself entertained with drawing, video games, surfing the web, and general chores. The only time I do go outside is in my backyard.

Sami March 25th, 2020 12:49 PM

I don't even have the time to go outside these days, so no... unless i have to go outside the backyard for a rare occasion

pastelspectre March 25th, 2020 11:03 PM

We now have like 10? Cases in my town, so uh.. pretty epic. I’ve been staying inside as much as I can. It is taking a toll on my mental health though and I’m starting to go.. stir crazy? Is that the right wording?

But like, at least before I could go to work and I got out of the house at least 4-5 days a week, but now since I’m laid off temporarily I’m just stuck in the house a lot. I’m okay during the day most of the time cause I distract myself with the new animal crossing and Pokémon mystery dungeon, but at night it really gets to me when I don’t have anything to distract myself with. lately crankgameplays has been streaming though, sometimes late at night, so that’s something to keep me company at least.

This whole situation is just weird and it sucks. It’s a scary time.

CiCi March 25th, 2020 11:37 PM

Social isolation is nothing new for me. I stay home, I don't talk to people, I preoccupy myself with hobbies, cleaning, and caring for my animals, and I've always loved it that way. The only difference in my life is that now my fiancee works from home so he's here all the time. Which kinda messes with me cuz I love to be alone for extended periods and just having him here gives me introverted stress. Nothing personal.

Ivysaur March 26th, 2020 4:15 AM

I'm on my third week working for home, I only leave it to shop for basics and shops only allow 1 person at a time (5 at the supermarket) and we all queue leaving at least two metres between each other. Masks are a common sight. We still don't know when it's going to end, I miss going out so much but I'm not risking it.

Treecko March 26th, 2020 10:05 PM

I work as a cashier/bagger at a grocery store and this is the most stressed out I've felt at work ever. Two weekends ago was one of the busiest weekends we've had. Lines stretched down the aisles and it was non-stop customers with no rest in between. On a normal weekend it usually slows down by 6 but that weekend we were still busy until after 8 or 9. I got my breaks late cause we had so many panic buyers sweeping the shelves clean. Toilet paper was gone by Sunday and now we have to restock every few hours. The produce and meat department were cleaned out and a lot of our canned goods were gone. Sunday I actually broke down in front of customers and spent most of my break crying. I have never been this stressed in my life. Last week we changed our hours from 6am-midnight to 6am -10pm and now 6-7am is a special seniors only hour. When we close anyone scheduled after 10 has to clean the store until they clock out. We now routinely clean our registers every hour and have people designated to clean the shopping carts. Last week we started getting some temp workers and workers from other locations who had to shut down for a few days to restock until their's reopened. It's slower in there now since we've shortened hours and a stay-at-home order has been placed on our city. Since Monday I've been required to carry a letter with me when I go to work that says I'm allowed to be outside cause I work for an "essential business". So far I've not been questioned or pulled over by the police for being outside so I know they gave it to use just in case it's needed. Social distancing is not easy when you work at an "essential" business especially a grocery store. The smaller amount of people being there helps but I still find myself feeling anxious as I navigate the store even if I pass someone. Some people seem to get it and keep their distance from others but I still see groups of people shopping together. I've looked for empty aisles so I can avoid people as much as I can. I love when I get days off though cause I've taken advantage of them to do as much social distancing as possible. Staying inside and refusing to take a shift on days off. A few days ago they installed plexiglass on the checkouts to protect us a little. Only problem is that they put the smallest sheet on glass in front of the cash register that's no bigger than 4 feet and nothing else. I really don't feel safe behind there. Another grocery chain here has theirs stretched all the way down the belt and that's way better imo. I really wish this dies down soon cause I'm so tired of going to work everyday knowing my life is at risk. I'm tired of working long hours and cleaning everything. I hate having to wear gloves while checking just to feel safe. I considered buying a mask just for work but talked myself out of it cause others need them more than me. I worry about my dad who is 61 and has some blood pressure problems. He works for IKEA and I'm happy they closed their stores for a month and are still paying him cause it means now he has no choice but to stay home. I can't lose him to this virus I'm still very dependant on him. I still live with him cause I honestly can't afford to move out. He pays for every bill except my phone and streaming services and buys all the food for me. I can't afford to lose him right now. I really want him to survive this. I'm sorry for ranting, I'm just so tired. I'm not that scared of getting the virus myself, but I'm scared of everything else. I miss going out and seeing friends. I miss be able to go to Starbucks almost every day for coffee. I miss life honestly and want all this to end.

Brendino March 26th, 2020 10:42 PM

I work as management in a drug store chain and I'm mentally exhausted after each day at work. Thankfully a lot of people are understanding of some of the restrictions we're putting in place at this point (reduced hours, closing our pharmacy early so they can catch up, having special shopping hours in the morning for seniors, and in the evening for first responders/healthcare workers), but as a manager I get to deal with the people that JUST DON'T GET IT. I hate having to explain every few minutes that we don't have masks, toilet paper, hand sanitizer, etc., and no we aren't raising the prices on anything. And people making excuses as to why they should be allowed to shop during our restricted hours, when those are there for a reason.

Not to mention we're missing 1/4 of our staff right now, and we have employees calling in every day saying they're not coming into work for at least two weeks. I'm getting real tired of working 10+ hour days, while still trying to keep a smile on my face, not only for the customers, but for all of our staff too, and trying to assure them that everything's going to work out, when I'm not even sure of it myself.

Also, getting real pissed off at people who are coming in with their families, or in groups of 4+, or say they're just browsing. We're an essential service right now, we're not here just because you're bored and everything else is closed. If you don't need to be here, STAY. THE. FUCK. AT. HOME.

I just wish that people would realize this is a serious thing, and not opening their eyes to what's happening is putting themselves and everyone else around them at risk.

Fritz March 27th, 2020 4:21 AM

The Prime Minister of the UK, Boris Johnson, has tested positive for the virus and is now self-isolating. I guess other people in the government will need to do the same now and isolate themselves. Especially the Chancellor since he was with Boris yesterday when they were clapping for the NHS.

We're now into the fourth day of the three-week lockdown in the UK.

Sothis March 28th, 2020 12:38 AM

My country has implemented many financial programs and help for those affected.
We don't have to pay our car payment this month and my mother is paid while taking time off.

But also, I'm getting cabin fever, there's nothing to do. I can't enjoy my spring time this way.

Neon Pink March 28th, 2020 3:02 PM

OMG I feel the same way about the spring time. I look out the window, and I see the nice weather, and i'm like AWW MAN WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO NIIIICCCCEEE OUT?!?!?!?!?!! UGH! Such a waste of a nice day.

Anyway, i've been getting some weird things happening to me. No i'm NOT sick. First off, I feel like the house has been more....peaceful? It's weird. I'm getting along with everyone in the house, and doing a few chores here and there. Also, I thought I was going to sleep every day, but my body on weekdays kind of know when it's a weekday and wakes up at 7am automatically. On weekends I still sleep late, but on weekdays, it's like I can't sleep late. Also, one of my teachers somehow got my number and called me just to check up on me and give me...homework? Well it's one of my music teachers and he wanted me to learn a new song or two on the keyboard by the time we get back to school and before I could come up with an good response, he's like "Ok stay safe bye." So i'm screwed. I sort of don't want to go back to school. I'm 50/50 on this topic. It's a brand new world, a world we must cope with for an indefinite amount of time. I totally social distanced myself from all my rl friends both physically and emotionally. I just want to play my Switch and 3DS and play on my laptop. Lately, my legs feel like "jello" for lack of better words. My sense of self is calmer since after the whole incident last week. Maybe i'm a natural introvert? Hmm.

I still want businesses to open back up though. It's still boring here in this house and i'd like to go to...other places than the supermarket or take out places.

Treecko March 28th, 2020 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendino (Post 10140224)
Not to mention we're missing 1/4 of our staff right now, and we have employees calling in every day saying they're not coming into work for at least two weeks. I'm getting real tired of working 10+ hour days, while still trying to keep a smile on my face, not only for the customers, but for all of our staff too, and trying to assure them that everything's going to work out, when I'm not even sure of it myself.

Also, getting real pissed off at people who are coming in with their families, or in groups of 4+, or say they're just browsing. We're an essential service right now, we're not here just because you're bored and everything else is closed. If you don't need to be here, STAY. THE. FUCK. AT. HOME.

I just wish that people would realize this is a serious thing, and not opening their eyes to what's happening is putting themselves and everyone else around them at risk.

We've had several baggers/other workers take a leave of absence out of concern for their health. The temps we're getting mostly come from hotels and restaurants that aren't open right now.

People dont seem to get what social distancing means. The other day I was getting change for one of the cashiers and a family of 6 came in and blocked the pathway talking. Like normally that won't piss me off but now it really does. Only one or two people should be going in to get groceries. If you all need stuff just wait in your car and do it in shifts. I get if someone has young kids and doesn't have someone who can watch them while you do your shopping, that's fine. But if they have no reason to be there or you can find a sitter, then STAY HOME. It's not the time to stand in the middle of the aisle and gab with Susan while your toddler is crying cause they wanna go home. Like it's not that hard to keep your distance from everyone.

VisionofMilotic March 30th, 2020 5:45 AM

I think I may have sprained my back. Being a woman, I'm no stranger to some back soreness and aches and pain now and then, but this feels really different. Just doing everyday things like reaching down to pick up my pet's bowl and put some food in it sends sharp pains down my lower back that leave me howling, and make it hard to get back up. I can't slowly turn from one side of the bed to the other without feeling everything tense up badly. The only experience I can think of that felt similar was when I broke my arm as a kid and had to wear a cast.

I haven't done any heavy lifting or tripped over anything or recall anything in particular that would have hurt me. I think perhaps just all this being indoors sitting around and not walking like I normally would might have made me more suspectible to sprains. My posture has always been bad and I've maybe pulled a muscle.

My body has not been properly exercised in awhile.This gorgeous spring weekend normally would have been a good time to visit the city garden, walk the dogs, head to the gym and go swimming, go out shopping or head to the library. At least by now work would have normally begun and I would get some exercise there. I'm just sitting around at home though now.

I was hoping that I would feel better this morning than I did yesterday and that it was just some cramp or fluke, but the pain is getting way worse. I'll try ice, heating pads, pain meds from my medicine cabinet first in case it is not something as bad as I thought, but I am going to have to go to a doctor in the next few days if I'm not showing signs of improvement. That honestly scares me more than a back injury because I go to a state clinic, and there's going to be a lot of very sick people there and I am scared that I might come down with Corona just going to the doctor to get treatment for a relatively minor medical issue. If I am not better in the next couple days then I have likely badly sprained it or have a fracture and should see a doctor. But I am unsure whether it would do me more damage to stay at home and endure or go out for help and be exposed in a very high risk area.


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