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Rubberbandman July 5th, 2005 7:39 AM

Rate my sharpedo (in game)
 
my in game sharpedo sucks but here it is

Sharpedo
Nature:Gentle
Surf
Crunch
HP[Flying]
Swagger

so what do I need to change?

Ice demon July 5th, 2005 8:07 AM

sharpedo[+Sp,-Def]@lum/salac
EVs - Sp,Att,SpAtt
ice beam/hydro pump
crunch
earthquake
double edge/return/hp ghost/hydro pump

if u got a high base power for ur HP then use it.

Shuko July 5th, 2005 8:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endamaster
my in game sharpedo sucks but here it is

Sharpedo
Nature:Gentle
Surf
Crunch
HP[Flying]
Swagger

so what do I need to change?

Have you done any specific EV training on it? Because you've got two Special Attack moves on him, and HP [Flying] is a physical attack move. Swagger is just an annoyer, so it doesn't count. ^_~ I'm thinking you're focusing too much on its special attack. I'd get rid of surf, and put in either Return or Hyper Beam. Yeah, I know Hyper Beam's a [email protected] move, but in-game, I think it's forgiveable. ^_~ And as Sharpedo's got sucky defenses, it's really only meant to strike once and strike hard anyway. Hyper beam or return will take advantage of it's good physical attack power.

These are just my opinions tho... I could be (and frequently am) very wrong, lol...

Mullet July 5th, 2005 8:50 AM

Return>Hyper Beam, any time.

Breakdown:

Return
102+102=204

Hyper Beam
150+0=150

That's the base damage calculations.

Kijin July 5th, 2005 9:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
Return>Hyper Beam, any time.

Breakdown:

Return Hyper Beam
102+102=204 150+0=150

That's the base damage calculations.

The only problem with that equation is that after Sharpedo uses return and doesn't kill the opposing pokemon, it gets trounced and devoured when it gets attacked back. However, the fact that return is 100% accurate meaning you're not going to randomly misfire and then get trounced and devoured without doing damage. So, in conclusion, Return doesn't miss so you should use it.
Any EVs or Stats you wanna add to this, because otherwise I'm just going to say that you should use the strongest freaking attacks you can fit on him since he gets HKOd by plenty.

Alter Ego July 5th, 2005 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endamaster
Sharpedo
Nature:Gentle
Surf
Crunch
HP[Flying]
Swagger

so what do I need to change?

It's true what they say, Sharpedo's strong point is definitely it's physical power, so let's capitalize upon it:

HP [Flying]
Earthquake
Return
Swagger

Lure out you opponent's Electric and Grass types and knock em' out :D . Just beware of Cradily.

Doomhanger July 5th, 2005 4:14 PM

Why do you have swagger on a pokemon that has incredibly low defence? They will receive a boost in attack, and you will die in one hit ifthis succeed in attacking.

electricgrass July 5th, 2005 5:26 PM

I am not sure about how to use sharpedo but you could use this

Sharpedo
mild
leftovers
crunch
surf
ice beam
return/?

Mullet July 5th, 2005 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kijin
The only problem with that equation is that after Sharpedo uses return and doesn't kill the opposing pokemon, it gets trounced and devoured when it gets attacked back. However, the fact that return is 100% accurate meaning you're not going to randomly misfire and then get trounced and devoured without doing damage. So, in conclusion, Return doesn't miss so you should use it.
Any EVs or Stats you wanna add to this, because otherwise I'm just going to say that you should use the strongest freaking attacks you can fit on him since he gets HKOd by plenty.

The 102 Power+102 Power is why people use Return>Hyper Beam, it's just a perk that it's more accurate.:D

Alter Ego July 6th, 2005 1:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doomhanger
Why do you have swagger on a pokemon that has incredibly low defence? They will receive a boost in attack, and you will die in one hit ifthis succeed in attacking.

Because the fact of the matter is that Sharpedo dies in one hit anyway. Besides, I mostly intended it to be used on Special Sweepers in which case the Attack boost is only harmful to them.

Rubberbandman July 6th, 2005 1:55 PM

I use HP Flying to attack Grass types that think that Sharpedo is easy pickings

Mullet July 6th, 2005 2:09 PM

What about Raikou with HP [Grass], he's faster than Sharpedo, and will kill him with an HP [Grass]. Even more so when he hides behind his Substitute and CMs up.:\

Alter Ego July 7th, 2005 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
What about Raikou with HP [Grass], he's faster than Sharpedo, and will kill him with an HP [Grass]. Even more so when he hides behind his Substitute and CMs up.:\

Eh, this is suggested for an ingame Sharpedo, right? The frontier Raikous aren't really that well built. If it were for Netbattle then my suggestion would be to get a better Water type since there are plenty of them around.

Mullet July 7th, 2005 1:27 PM

You never know he could be using Link Battles, and run into a well bulit Raikou.:\

totomasta July 7th, 2005 1:30 PM

Adamant Nature
@Focus Band maybe
HP flying
Earthquake
Surf
Return

Alter Ego July 7th, 2005 1:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
You never know he could be using Link Battles, and run into a well bulit Raikou.:\

I'd say that if he ends up in a situation where his only chance is to fight of a well-built Raikou using only a Sharpedo then he has only him self to blame. You can't prepare *every* team member for *everything*. Besides, the chance of him facing a LG/FR player with a Squirtle starter (or one who has traded with someone who fits the criteria), the patience to find and train a Raikou with the appropriate Nature and EVs who happens to have a very good moveset that svamps Sharpedo is not a very big one. Giving Sharpedo Focus Band is a good idea imo, other candidates could be Quick Claw, Scope Lens, or King's Rock.

Mullet July 7th, 2005 1:36 PM

Not really becase a well-built, and a battler that can use him to his full potential, can really beat anything.

Alter Ego July 7th, 2005 1:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
Not really becase a well-built, and a battler that can use him to his full potential, can really beat anything.

Then it's still his fault for challenging such a person.

Mullet July 7th, 2005 1:51 PM

I live close to him, and I chose Squrite! Your supposed to challenge good people to get better.:\

Alter Ego July 8th, 2005 3:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullet
I live close to him, and I chose Squrite! Your supposed to challenge good people to get better.:\

If he chooses to challenge a strong opponent then he still should have no-one else to blame. Besides, loosing is often more educational than winning.

shiny_suicune July 9th, 2005 5:30 AM

I think Sharpedo's Special Attack is decent, not as high as his attack, but still above average. so i would say to take advantage of his stab moves:

[email protected]/Petaya
~Hydro Pump
~Crunch/
~HP Flying
~Earthquake

CipherDakim12 July 9th, 2005 6:01 AM

Note: Sharpedo stinks! I have one level 100 and these are its stats:

HP-249 Nature:Adamant
Attack-267
Defense-79 (see what I mean!!!)
Sp. Attack-224
Sp. Defense-101 (right there!!! can it get any worse?)
Speed-202

Just face it! It has even less defense than a Kadabra, and my Kadabra was at Level 40 and had a defense of 37! At level 100 Kadabra defense was 90!

Squarewalker July 9th, 2005 7:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CipherDakim12
Note: Sharpedo stinks! I have one level 100 and these are its stats:

HP-249 Nature:Adamant
Attack-267
Defense-79 (see what I mean!!!)
Sp. Attack-224
Sp. Defense-101 (right there!!! can it get any worse?)
Speed-202

Just face it! It has even less defense than a Kadabra, and my Kadabra was at Level 40 and had a defense of 37! At level 100 Kadabra defense was 90!

I know what you're trying to say. It's attack stats aren't that great either compared to most OU sweepers'. It's formidable for in-game use though. If it can KO at least 1 pokemon, it has done its job.

CipherDakim12 July 11th, 2005 6:59 AM

Quote:

I know what you're trying to say. It's attack stats aren't that great either compared to most OU sweepers'. It's formidable for in-game use though. If it can KO at least 1 pokemon, it has done its job.
I'm not saying its Attack or Sp. Atk stats are bad. I'm mostly just stressing its defensive stats.


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