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Squarewalker July 8th, 2005 3:31 AM

My NetBattle Team.
 
Well, I've been using this team quite for a good while now, although I thought I should post it here to hear some suggestions for it. Ok, here goes:

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Nature: [Quiet] (-Sp, +SpA)
EVs: 252 HP, 68 Att, 190 SpA
Crunch
Focus Punch
Substitute
Thunderbolt

I gave it 252 EVs in HP to be able to make 101 subs. I had to have a pokemon with an electric attack in the team so I chose Tyraniboah. In other words it's a skarmbliss counter.

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Nature: [Naive] (-SpD, +Sp)
EVs: 144 Att, 255 Sp, 111 SpA
Focus Punch
Leech Seed
Substitute
Hidden Power Fire

Another skarmbliss counter just in case boah faints. Sub+Leech Seed can be a really tricky combo for him in my opinion. Then there's HP Fire for a surprize attack.

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Nature: [Adamant] (+Att, -SpA)
EVs: 57 HP, 255 Att, 198 Sp
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Shadow Ball
Explosion

I like cbgross more than agilitygross. Shadow Ball is for Gengars and
Explosion is against swift swimmers like Kingdra or physical tanks like Suicune.

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Nature: [Adamant] (+Att, -SpA)
EVs: 252 Att, 252 Sp, 6 HP
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Screech
Quick Attack

Agaist fire types. Too bad it's 4x weak to ice attacks so it will be OHKO-ed by most water types. It has enough speed though, to at least try to do half damage to them.

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Nature: [Careful] (-SpA, +SpD)
EVs: 105 HP, 103 Def, 198 Sp, 104 SpD
Silver Wind
Iron Defense
Swords Dance
Baton Pass

It isn't just able to pass a few Swords Dances on to Metagross or Flygon, but can also OHKO Zam with Silver Wind (but only if it won't get OHKO-ed by Fire Punch first...) and it doesn't even have a single EV in attack! Too bad, that Silver Wind hasn't got much PPs.

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Nature: [Relaxed] (+Def, -Sp)
EVs: 87 HP, 105 Att, 80 Def, 140 SpA, 98 SpD
Earthquake
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest

I thought I shall try a Chesto Resting Swampert to see how it works. Maybe it's even better than Cursepert sometimes...


Well, how's my team? I know they have rather standard movesets, but I still wanted to know what others think about it so maybe I can improve on it.

Too bad that Medicham or Suicune can defeat the whole team (I've had some bad experiences with that recently...), but if the opponent forgets about the Sandstorm and uses 4 Sub/Endure, I guess my team can work really well then.

Mullet July 8th, 2005 6:47 AM

Fixes in bold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by torkoal_7
Well, I've been using this team quite for a good while now, although I thought I should post it here to hear some suggestions for it. Ok, here goes:

[email protected]
Nature: [Quiet] (-Sp, +SpA)
EVs: 252 HP, 68 Att, 190 SpA
Crunch
Focus Punch
Substitute
Thunderbolt

I gave it 252 EVs in HP to be able to make 101 subs. I had to have a pokemon with an electric attack in the team so I chose Tyraniboah. In other words it's a skarmbliss counter.

The only thing 101 subs do is protect against S-Toss, which you don't need to do. Take some of that HP and shift it into Attack.

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Nature: [Naive] (-SpD, +Sp)
EVs: 144 Att, 255 Sp, 111 SpA
Focus Punch
Leech Seed
Substitute
Hidden Power Fire/HP [Water]

Another skarmbliss counter just in case boah faints. Sub+Leech Seed can be a really tricky combo for him in my opinion. Then there's HP Fire for a surprize attack.

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Nature: [Adamant] (+Att, -SpA)
EVs: 57 HP, 255 Att, 198 Sp
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Shadow Ball/Sludge Bomb
Explosion

I like cbgross more than agilitygross. Shadow Ball is for Gengars and
Explosion is against swift swimmers like Kingdra or physical tanks like Suicune.

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Nature: [Adamant] (+Att, -SpA)
EVs: 252 Att, 252 Sp, 6 HP
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Screech/HP [Fighting]
Quick Attack

Agaist fire types. Too bad it's 4x weak to ice attacks so it will be OHKO-ed by most water types. It has enough speed though, to at least try to do half damage to them.

You may want to use HP [Fighting]. to protect against Ice types. If they're acually using an Ice Type with Ice Beam, usually people with non-Ice types have Ice Beam on at least one thing. Justa thought thought though.

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Nature: [Careful] (-SpA, +SpD)
EVs: 105 HP, 103 Def, 198 Sp, 104 SpD
Silver Wind
Iron Defense
Swords Dance
Baton Pass

It isn't just able to pass a few Swords Dances on to Metagross or Flygon, but can also OHKO Zam with Silver Wind (but only if it won't get OHKO-ed by Fire Punch first...) and it doesn't even have a single EV in attack! Too bad, that Silver Wind hasn't got much PPs.

Pretty much standard.

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Nature: [Careful/Sassy] (+Def, -Sp)
EVs: 87 HP, 105 Att, 80 Def, 140 SpA, 98 SpD
Earthquake
Surf
Ice Beam
Curse

I thought I shall try a Chesto Resting Swampert to see how it works. Maybe it's even better than Cursepert sometimes...

It doesn't work that well, it would work a lot better if Chesto Berry could be used more than once, but because it can't go with the standard Cursepert, plus I'm not to keen on Chesto Resr. By the way, at least 240 HP EVs (something Husk, and I both agree on, I think, lol).

Well, how's my team? I know they have rather standard movesets, but I still wanted to know what others think about it so maybe I can improve on it.

Too bad that Medicham or Suicune can defeat the whole team (I've had some bad experiences with that recently...), but if the opponent forgets about the Sandstorm and uses 4 Sub/Endure, I guess my team can work really well then.

I don't like Medicham, or Suicune, even though I use Suicune, but oh well.

Hope this helps, and good luck!
:D

§ Bleep § July 8th, 2005 7:12 AM

if yo're worried about silver wind's low PP, HP bug is always an option :D

Squarewalker July 8th, 2005 7:12 AM

Well, thanks for the suggestions!

husk1442 July 9th, 2005 2:20 PM

File--> Export text, works

also, you need a physical and special wall since anything with Swords dance or a Calm Mind will sweep this team


I'm suprised you don't have heracross problems

Doomhanger July 9th, 2005 6:00 PM

Very nice team, but i usually put my baton passer first and if lucky, will baton pass some attack and speed...

Squarewalker July 9th, 2005 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husk1442
I'm suprised you don't have heracross problems

If worst comes to worst, Metagross can/has to survive 1 Megahorn and then explode. Heracross often use Megahorn, Swords Dance, Reversal, Substitute from which moveset Reversal and Sub won't work really well here because of the Sandstorm.
Even after Cross got the Salac boost, Flygon can always KO it with Quick Attack anyway.

Edit: I fixed my team (I did use the Export text command this time ;) ) :

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 186 HP / 104 Atk / 15 Def / 205 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 57 HP / 255 Atk / 198 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 105 HP / 103 Def / 223 Spd / 79 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Iron Defense
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

Armaldo (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Blast

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 196 HP / 85 Atk / 78 Def / 77 SAtk / 74 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

CipherDakim12 July 10th, 2005 6:33 AM

Fixes in bold, as always...

Quote:

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 186 HP / 104 Atk / 15 Def / 205 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Rock Slide/Earthquake

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 57 HP / 255 Atk / 198 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Psychic
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 105 HP / 103 Def / 223 Spd / 79 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Steel Wing
- Iron Defense
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

Armaldo (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake
- Rock Blast

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 196 HP / 85 Atk / 78 Def / 77 SAtk / 74 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse/Sword Dance
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Crunch/Dragon Claw
- Rock Slide

Squarewalker July 10th, 2005 6:45 AM

Well... I'd have a few comments on your suggestions...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CipherDakim12
Fixes in bold, as always...

Quote:

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 186 HP / 104 Atk / 15 Def / 205 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Rock Slide/Earthquake

The attack EVs are only for F-punch. It's the only one in my team that has an electric attack and it already has crunch for stab anyway...

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 57 HP / 255 Atk / 198 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Psychic - Metagross only needs physical attacks.
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 105 HP / 103 Def / 223 Spd / 79 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Steel Wing - That's not a very good attack for him (it only works well for a Cb'ed one) and ID and SD are there to Baton Pass.
- Iron Defense
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

Armaldo (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Earthquake - Other pokemon already know EQ and Rapid Spin is good to remove Leech Seed or Spikes.
- Rock Blast

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 196 HP / 85 Atk / 78 Def / 77 SAtk / 74 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse/Sword Dance - It doesn't even learn Swords Dance...
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Crunch/Dragon Claw - This is a physical Flygon. Quick Attack can finish off pokemon that have a low hp. I only use Crunch or D-Claw on a special one.
- Rock Slide

Anyway, thanks for the rate.

husk1442 July 10th, 2005 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torkoal_7
If worst comes to worst, Metagross can/has to survive 1 Megahorn and then explode. Heracross often use Megahorn, Swords Dance, Reversal, Substitute from which moveset Reversal and Sub won't work really well here because of the Sandstorm.
Even after Cross got the Salac boost, Flygon can always KO it with Quick Attack anyway.

Edit: I fixed my team (I did use the Export text command this time ;) ) :

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 186 HP / 104 Atk / 15 Def / 205 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

you need 404 HP for 101 subs :shocked:

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 57 HP / 255 Atk / 198 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

I like sludge bomb instead of Shadow Ball since it has the chance of poisoning swampert and suicune who like to switch in on you, and it hits Celbi harder than SB

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 105 HP / 103 Def / 223 Spd / 79 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Iron Defense
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

Don't really know what this is for

Armaldo (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 244 HP / 168 Atk / 96 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Hidden Power [bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Blast

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 96 SAtk / 56 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)

- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf Hydro Pump

Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/ 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide


Like I said earlier anything with a calm mind or a swords dance can sweep this team, if it has 329+ spd or if it has a resistance or immunity to earthquake and has atleast 225 speed

Squarewalker July 10th, 2005 11:58 AM

Ok, thanks for the advice. It really helps.

Mullet July 10th, 2005 12:08 PM

Fixes in bold (yeah, yeah, it's old now)!

Quote:

Originally Posted by torkoal_7
If worst comes to worst, Metagross can/has to survive 1 Megahorn and then explode. Heracross often use Megahorn, Swords Dance, Reversal, Substitute from which moveset Reversal and Sub won't work really well here because of the Sandstorm.
Even after Cross got the Salac boost, Flygon can always KO it with Quick Attack anyway.

Edit: I fixed my team (I did use the Export text command this time ;) ) :

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 186 HP / 104 Atk / 15 Def / 205 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Crunch
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Fine, but it needs more HP to make 101 Subs.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 57 HP / 255 Atk / 198 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Standard

Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 105 HP / 103 Def / 223 Spd / 79 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Iron Defense
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance

Fine, pretty much standard.

Armaldo (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Battle Armor
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance/Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Blast

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 196 HP / 85 Atk / 78 Def / 77 SAtk / 74 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Needs 240 HP EVs.

Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 6 HP
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Quick Attack
- Rock Slide

Yay, you took my advice. I don't like Quick Attack with Choice Band. It looks good except you wasted 4 EVs, so I put them in HP.

Hope this helps.
:D

Squarewalker July 10th, 2005 10:37 PM

Thanks for the advice. I guess I'm going to put 252 EVs in HP for Tyranitar again. Though you said this before:
Quote:

The only thing 101 subs do is protect against S-Toss, which you don't need to do. Take some of that HP and shift it into Attack.
I think that's called contradiction. But oh well...


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