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VisionofMilotic October 1st, 2020 11:50 PM

Trump has Covid 19
 
Donald Trump and his wife Melania have both tested positive for Coronavirus.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

pkmin3033 October 2nd, 2020 12:16 AM

I suppose it’s a horrible thing to say, but this does feel like a very hefty dose of karma, considering some of the things Trump has said about coronavirus.

I would like to think that he will be more careful with his words when (or even if) he recovers, but somehow I doubt it. If anything if he recovers he will probably downplay covid as little more than a cold. I suppose we’ll see. This will probably be more of a drama than when Boris had it though.

Fairy October 2nd, 2020 1:07 AM

^^^this

Ivysaur October 2nd, 2020 1:22 AM

You buy the ticket, you take the ride.

Trump is a 74-year-old man (220x higher risk of death than a person in mid-to-late-20s) who suffers from obesity (1.5x risk of death) and who never uses a mask (higher risk of a large viral intake, increasing the severity of the infection). Good luck to him.

I don't want to think about what would happen if he dies when millions of people have already voted though. That would be even more insane than this campaign is already being.

VisionofMilotic October 2nd, 2020 1:34 AM

Trump knew the risks when he began traveling around the country wearing no masks, holding rallies with tens of thousands of people who also had none, especially after the unfortunate death of Herman Cain from Covid.

I feel worse for the first lady who got it, because I see her as mostly an unfortunate bystander in this whole fiasco.

Hyzenthlay October 2nd, 2020 1:53 AM

It's regrettable that anyone should contract COVID, but at the same time, I just can't work up an ounce of sympathy for Trump. I do feel sympathy for the First Lady. It just serves Trump right for treating this catastrophic virus like an overexaggerated cold. It breaks my heart when I think about how many people have died due to such ignorance... and from the people in power, no less. The people who could have taken action to prevent so many deaths if it weren't for their greed and foolishness.

I can only hope that this virus will enlighten Trump and make him take it seriously. However, I have little faith in that happening for the reasons Dawn already gave. :/

Caite-chan October 2nd, 2020 2:02 AM

All I can say is thank god! I feel bad for the First Lady but I feel absolutely nothing for him. Mr. High and Mighty finally gets it and I know that sadly everyone will bend over backwards to tend to him.

ZeoStar October 2nd, 2020 4:21 AM

I hope they both a smooth recovery. Disregarding his attitude sometimes, I still wish no harm on him as a person.

We are living through what will go down as a very historic year

Mewtwolover October 2nd, 2020 4:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyzenthlay (Post 10214094)
It's regrettable that anyone should contract COVID, but at the same time, I just can't work up an ounce of sympathy for Trump. I do feel sympathy for the First Lady. It just serves Trump right for treating this catastrophic virus like an overexaggerated cold. It breaks my heart when I think about how many people have died due to such ignorance... and from the people in power, no less. The people who could have taken action to prevent so many deaths if it weren't for their greed and foolishness.

I can only hope that this virus will enlighten Trump and make him take it seriously. However, I have little faith in that happening for the reasons Dawn already gave. :/

So much this, Trump now pays the price for not taking COVID-19 seriously.

Tsutarja October 2nd, 2020 4:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VisionofMilotic (Post 10214091)
Trump knew the risks when he began traveling around the country wearing no masks

He knew the risks before the WHO even declared COVID-19 as a pandemic, yet downplayed them anyways.

Either way, karma is a bitch. I wish him and Melania well in their recovery, but perhaps with this, maybe he could show some class and not downplay it any further.

Nah October 2nd, 2020 4:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsutarja (Post 10214121)
I wish him and Melania well in their recovery, but perhaps with this, maybe he could show some class and not downplay it any further.

Nah nothing's gonna change about his attitude towards the virus or his handling of it. He's not that kind of person.

VisionofMilotic October 2nd, 2020 10:16 AM

The chair of the RNC Ronna McDaniel, Trump's advisor Hope Hicks and now senator Mike Lee of Utah all were confirmed this week to also have Covid.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/politics/mike-lee-tests-positive-covid/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/us/politics/hope-hicks-coronavirus.html

gimmepie October 2nd, 2020 10:37 AM

The scariest part of this is that if Trump comes out of this okay, it just adds weight to the ridiculous rhetoric he's been vomiting out regarding the virus. Trump being okay here could easily lead to even more COVID deaths and if he makes it through but poorly, it could even give him grounds to screw with the election somehow possibly.

Nah October 2nd, 2020 12:47 PM

Yeah that's the unfortunate thing with this. On the surface, covid-19 removing Trump from office for us sounds great, but if he dies from it, we get Pence until at least mid-January (so not really a better situation). If he survives it, then it'll be just like you said. It's so 2020 America really though, how there's no good outcome regardless of what happens.

Ivysaur October 2nd, 2020 12:51 PM

A million people have voted in the last 36 hours, with registered democrats outnumbering republicans 5:2. Trump is massively screwed in 95% of polls, and he's going to be out of the running for at least a week during the most decisive stretch of the campaign, as he has a fever so he's definitely symptomatic and a pretty risky patient at that. And this is going to make all the focus set on Covid, which is his weakest point and the one he desperately want people to look away from. I don't know how this can possibly help him.

Nah October 2nd, 2020 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivysaur (Post 10214237)
A million people have voted in the last 36 hours, with registered democrats outnumbering republicans 5:2. Trump is massively screwed in 95% of polls, and he's going to be out of the running for at least a week during the most decisive stretch of the campaign, as he has a fever so he's definitely symptomatic and a pretty risky patient at that. And this is going to make all the focus set on Covid, which is his weakest point and the one he desperately want people to look away from. I don't know how this can possibly help him.

It's less that him surviving covid would help him specifically, and more that him surviving it would give fuel to the people not taking the pandemic seriously and thus worsening the situation in one of the countries hit the worst by the pandemic.

Ivysaur October 2nd, 2020 1:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nah (Post 10214238)
It's less that him surviving covid would help him specifically, and more that him surviving it would give fuel to the people not taking the pandemic seriously and thus worsening the situation in one of the countries hit the worst by the pandemic.

Yeah, that would be a pretty terrible outcome. If he isn't dying, at least I hope he's seriously ill enough to prove Fox News watchers that it isn't a joke.

I was more replying to Pie's "screwing with the election".

gimmepie October 2nd, 2020 1:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivysaur (Post 10214241)
Yeah, that would be a pretty terrible outcome. If he isn't dying, at least I hope he's seriously ill enough to prove Fox News watchers that it isn't a joke.

I was more replying to Pie's "screwing with the election".

Oh, I doubt that he could actually get anything changed, or though I will not be surprised if he tries. More I'm concerned about the aftermath when his base goes apeshit over the "unfair contest" or something. That being said though, it's the former part of my post that is my biggest concern here.

Sydian October 2nd, 2020 3:18 PM

karma is a sweet ass bitch ain't she

VisionofMilotic October 2nd, 2020 5:56 PM

More grave news from Capitol Hill. Three journalists at the white house and a staffer all tested positive for Covid 19.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/02/media/journalists-white-house-covid-19/index.html

North Carolina senator Thom Tillis also has Covid, and is going into isolation.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/519443-gop-sen-thom-tillis-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

pastelspectre October 2nd, 2020 8:50 PM

Some people are saying he could be faking, and I am really hoping that is not the case. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if he was.

Sothis October 2nd, 2020 10:00 PM

This is what happens when you have the attitude of "it won't happen to me". Now I hope the US takes it more seriously.

VisionofMilotic October 3rd, 2020 4:09 AM

I believe that Trump genuinely has the virus. I don't buy the theories that he faked it to get out of the debates or get sympathy. He loses more politically than he would gain since his handling of the pandemic is the thing he comes under attack for the most, and having the Covid himself puts his response to the pandemic center stage and forces him to eat humble pie after cutting Covid resources, pressuring governors to re-open the economy, sending kids back to school and holding rallies and fundraisers as if everything was normal. Being sick is probably the last thing he wants to admit after displaying such hubris.

The man was rushed in by helicopter to the Walter Reed hospital last night, that corroborates illness. Why not just stay in quarantine unseen in if it's a rouse? There's also been details released of the medical care he's received, he was given the Regeneron antibody drug to treat Covid. This is an experimental drug that hasn't been approved yet for use yet for the general public, that sounds to me like it's serious and they're ready to take some level of risk to see him through.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/02/world/covid-19-coronavirus

Also the people around Trump are getting sick simultaneously, his wife was infected, his aide, Gop officials, his campaign manager Bill Stepien, even the president of Notre Dame John Jenkins who had gone to the Scotus announcement at the white house tested positive for Covid. The virus is definitely going around.

pkmin3033 October 3rd, 2020 5:06 AM

Faking having coronavirus would be a very...uh, interesting strategy, for someone who has repeatedly made light of it. I don't think the drama surrounding his treatment gives him any more or less credibility (after all, it's not like he doesn't have the money or the power to set all this up, and people around him being diagnosed with it means nothing because in a large event of course people are going to catch it; doesn't mean he did) but it's more the thought that if this was found out - and of course it would be - it'd absolutely destroy any chances he has of winning the election, amongst other things. Even Trump wouldn't be THAT stupid. That's the very definition of "political suicide" and, whilst I think it almost a certainty he will spin recovering from coronavirus as proof of his strength of character (or, god forbid, more fuel on the fire for those idiots who think this isn't a big deal) I don't think he'd set it up to deliberately paint that narrative.

VisionofMilotic October 3rd, 2020 8:50 AM

I just watched 10 or more of Trump's doctors walk out of Walter Reed medical center give an interview to the press confirming that he was admitted into their care, tired, coughing and running a fever and that they are giving him treatment. If he's not actually sick then it would mean they are all committing malpractice. Also I don't believe anybody would go take infusions of blood plasma from actual Covid patients if you didn't really have the virus and need the antibodies--that is part of the experimental treatment he is undergoing.

I mean yes, it's possible that many people in his inner circle might have gotten but didn't get it from him or spread it to him. However with a number of infected people interacting with eachother regularly and not practicing social distancing or wearing masks he was definitely in conditions that made him more likely to get the disease in addition to his age, weight and other possible underlying health problems like heart issues. Though I wasn't expecting this news Thursday night, in retrospect it all fits the pattern I think of what we know about Covid.


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