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CipherDakim12 July 12th, 2005 4:31 PM

My Poisonous Stalling Team!
 
I have a new poisonous stalling team! Don't suggest moves like Hydro Pump, Crush Claw, etc. I just want to try a team with Toxic/Confuse Ray/Recover for once. They are all hold Leftovers, I used PP Maxs on all their moves, and they're all at Level 100!

Cradily:
Sludge Bomb
Confuse Ray
Toxic
Recover

Umbreon:
Confuse Ray
Toxic
Moonlight
Faint Attack

Milotic:
Surf
Confuse Ray
Recover
Toxic

Crobat:
Toxic
Fly
Confuse Ray
Protect

Corsola:
Toxic
Recover
Confuse Ray
Surf

Deoxys (defense form):
Cosmic Power
Toxic
Recover
Night Shade


Stats:


Cradily:
HP-324
Attack-154
Defense-341
Sp. Atk-175
Sp. Def-313
Speed-79

Umbreon:
HP-340
Attack-146
Defense-311
Sp. Atk-194
Sp. Def-351
Speed-187

Milotic:
HP-264
Attack-132
Defense-231
Sp. Atk-251
Sp. Def-344
Speed-166

Crobat:
HP-301
Attack-264
Defense-211
Sp. Atk-109
Sp. Def-186
Speed-333

Corsola:
HP-284
Attack-143
Defense-294
Sp. Atk-178
Sp. Def-266
Speed-98

Deoxys:
HP-366
Attack-121
Defense-311
Sp. Atk-123
Sp. Def-342
Speed-144

Like it? Rate it, but please please do not suggest an entirely different moveset considering that:

THIS TEAM IS A STALLING TOXIC TEAM!!!

Espy Psyche July 14th, 2005 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CipherDakim12
I have a new poisonous stalling team! Don't suggest moves like Hydro Pump, Crush Claw, etc. I just want to try a team with Toxic/Confuse Ray/Recover for once. They are all hold Leftovers, I used PP Maxs on all their moves, and they're all at Level 100!

Cradily:
Sludge Bomb
Confuse Ray
Toxic
Recover
I probably would not have done a toxistaller Cradily, but this is ok.

Umbreon:
Confuse Ray
Toxic
Moonlight
Faint Attack
Perfect.

Milotic:
Surf
Confuse Ray
Recover
Toxic
Again not a toxistaller, but still ok.

Crobat:
Toxic
Fly Wing Attack
Confuse Ray
Protect Haze

Corsola:
Toxic
Recover
Confuse Ray
Surf

Ok for a toxistaller

Deoxys (defense form):
Cosmic Power
Toxic
Recover
Night Shade
I wouldn't use a DEF Deoxys, but this is ok.

You need to try including a high-powered psychic with a fire move.
Poison and Steel types are immune to your tactic.
I would suggest replacing Cradily with something like this:
[email protected]
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
F/Punch

That protects you against immunity, which is your worst enemy.
Snorlax is not really that big of a threat, because you can confuse it.
High ATK + low DEF + Confusion=death
Zangoose may not be a threat for the same reason.

Not really the right Pokemon for a toxistaller team, but I give it a 7.5/10

Golden Groudon July 14th, 2005 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitefour_protector
You need to try including a high-powered psychic with a fire move.
Poison and Steel types are immune to your tactic.
I would suggest replacing Cradily with something like this:
[email protected]
Psychic
Reflect
Recover
F/Punch

That protects you against immunity, which is your worst enemy.
Snorlax is not really that big of a threat, because you can confuse it.
High ATK + low DEF + Confusion=death
Zangoose may not be a threat for the same reason.

Not really the right Pokemon for a toxistaller team, but I give it a 7.5/10

IMO Zam has ABSOLUTELY no staying power. Cradily is better at stalling.
SP attacking Snorlax is LOLOLOLOLOLOL.....

CipherDakim12: Heracross rips through half if not all your team, CB or not.
Guts is cool.

Espy Psyche July 14th, 2005 11:04 AM

I didn't say to SA Snorlax. I said that Snorlax is not a threat to toxistaller team just because of immunity.
Heracross is another reason to have Zam. Psychic + Zam's high SA = dead Heracross.
Zam does have no staying power. Its job is to go in, kill all the psn/steel types, and get out.

And by saying Immunity, I actually meant the protection that psn/steel types have from Toxic.

Ham July 14th, 2005 11:05 AM

You could Try Tyranitar for Sandstream. canceling Leftovers is good. Crobat is a bad staller anyway.

maybe spikes in some form. that 6%-12%-25% damage on a switch-in is never bad.

Charactarantula July 14th, 2005 11:11 AM

somthing tells me this team can get messed up by somthing.. i cant put my finger on it.

Golden Groudon July 14th, 2005 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitefour_protector
I didn't say to SA Snorlax. I said that Snorlax not a threat to toxistaller team just because of immunity.
Heracross is another reason to have Zam. Psychic + Zam's high SA = dead Heracross.
Zam does have no staying power. Its job is to go in, kill all the psn/steel types, and get out.

But he doen't want new Pokemon since he posted the Bold&Big thing at the bottom of his post.

About zam killing hera, thay's why there is a thing called "switch".

By the way, there are many other pokemon with guts.

Then again, how are you going to stop lax owning zam? Psychic Him? LOL

Synchronize can also mess toxic up.

SilverBlaze09 July 14th, 2005 11:18 AM

Ah, Metagross w/ Brick Break would eat 2/3 of this team, and ignore Deoxys...

And there's a lotta Electric-type moves to eat Milotic, if they don't just try to out-stall it with Blissey or something.

»SilverBlaze09«

CipherDakim12 July 14th, 2005 11:26 AM

Hey, hey peoples! Its just 1 Toxicstalling team out of probably 150 of my teams!

Just....calm...........down........................................................

Golden Groudon July 14th, 2005 12:05 PM

I was just pointing out the weaknesses. =\

Ham July 14th, 2005 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CipherDakim12
Hey, hey peoples! Its just 1 Toxicstalling team out of probably 150 of my teams!

Just....calm...........down........................................................

just pointing out the flaws.

collin152 July 14th, 2005 12:35 PM

Heal-Bell pwns this team though.

Golden Groudon July 14th, 2005 12:46 PM

You can always have taunt on Umby but Toxic on it is xDDDDDD

BTW, a list of weaknesses:

Steels
HealBealers/that other move
Guts
Taunt
Metagross
Lots

Also: Consider WoW as a option

c_dog July 15th, 2005 6:25 AM

worst. team. ever.

toxic isn't that useful already save for some occasions and to have a team of toxic users? that's just a "whip me for fun" team.

skarmory, one of the most OU pokes ever is IMMUNE to toxic. OU Metagross, IMMUNE, OU snorlax with immunity is IMMUNE, Venasaur is IMMUNE, OU Blissey, Celebi, Miltank with heal bell/serene grace can cure status by switching, OU starmie heals status by switching, OU gyarados with taunt is IMMUNE, anything with guts whip up this team, anything with synchronize punishes this team and finally:

Anything with substitute = immune.

I'm sure i probably left out a couple things. but you get the idea why toxic isn't that great a move nevermind using a team whose sole purpose is to try and land toxic on the opponent.

Hate to be harsh but i speak the truth.

also, aside from toxic, it's never wise to have a team of pokemon with practically identicle movesets. you need variety. otherwise it's just gonna get OWNZED by a single poke.

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 6:56 AM

C_Dog, I agree with you and I'm sure this team has millions of flaws but you need to chill out. I'm sure he only built it for ingame porposes and for fun. ;D

c_dog July 15th, 2005 7:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Groudon
C_Dog, I agree with you and I'm sure this team has millions of flaws but you need to chill out. I'm sure he only built it for ingame porposes and for fun. ;D

well, sorry to appear mean :/ i'd like to think i'm usually calm and stuff but when i saw his team i just couldn't help but wonder why somebody would create a team like that. i understand having fun.. I use some NU teams and mono teams sometimes with really, well, "unique" sets, but a team with confuse ray+toxic just shows lack of creativity and understanding of netbattle imo. too many things are immune to toxic, far too many... it gets beat by the most OU skarm bliss combos, which imo, is the epitome of a lack of creativity. i wanted him to understand that in order to win in netbattle you need variety and building around toxic doesn't mean you create an entire team of pokes with toxic. you need some pokes who can safely take down pokes which are resistant to it, for example, and have answers for pokemon who would try and take toxic(guts) and turn it against you.

and i doubt this is in-game... i mean if it's in-game, you sweep. stalling against in-game teams make no sense.. why bother? it's a waste of time when you can just kill everything with a level 100 charizard, even with moves which aren't suppose to be effective.

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 7:51 AM

I sure it's in-game since he never refered to nettbattle ever.

If he is, then I'm sure he would have donr that import thing instead of typing it all out. ;D

Emerald Battle Frontier is kinda hard but meh.

BTW: It's always fun to see your opponets sloooowwwwly wither away. If it was not for fun, then he must have been very bored. :P


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