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Espy Psyche July 15th, 2005 9:44 AM

Charizards, Physical and Special
 
Why is a moveset like this the most common for Zard?
Overheat
EQ
Wing Attack
Belly Drum/Sword Dance/D Dance

Zard's SA is higher than its ATK(317/267)

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 9:59 AM

[email protected] Berry
Belly Drum
EQ/Sub
HP flying/EQ/Return/RS
Fire Blast

Needs prediction or baton pass a sub to work.

SA zards are not effective as belly druming ones.

PS: No one uses wing attack. *LOLOL*

Espy Psyche July 15th, 2005 10:03 AM

Oh whatever. My point is that movesets like this are not common.
Heat Wave/FT
D Claw
Bite
HP Grass/Water

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 10:09 AM

Of course not. Not on nettbattle at least. ;)
Like I said, it's not effective.

But if you want a Szard.....

[email protected] (sp?) berry/Leftovers
FireBlast
Hidden Power grass
Focus Punch/ Sub
Dragon Claw

c_dog July 15th, 2005 5:54 PM

i use a special zard on my team.. but that's cuz ppl always expect the physical zard whenthey see one and send out swampert, who gets OHKO'd by HP Grass.

[email protected][modest]
252spatt, 252speed, 6hp
-flamethrower/fire blast
-hp grass
-dragon claw
-endure/sub

i go with flamethrower cuz it's accurate and it's enough to OHKO most things, i find anyway. and endure over sub to activate berry to beat pokemon who try to outspeed it(a la dugtrio, jolteon).

[email protected][adament]
252att, 252speed, 6hp
-bellydrum/dragon dance
-earthquake
-hp flying
-sub/overheat

that's the OU charizard i think, which either has belly drum or dragon dance. if belly drum, most likely it needs a sub. just sub the turn the opponent use rest/after they fall asleep or something, or when they try to use status, then belly drum to activate salac, and then sweep.

if dragon dance set, use it the same way you'd use a tauntadros, pretty much. you may try to slip in overheat over sub to beat steels, with the dragon dance set with charizard, but i dunno, even i find it hard to use cuz the opponent beats it too easily.

So that's why i go with special zard for now cuz ppl are a little slow, and if physical, sub+belly drum.

orangekows July 15th, 2005 6:02 PM

omg people, charizard doesn't have the defenses to use dragon dance/swords dance at all. always belly drum.

Quote:

[email protected] Berry
Belly Drum
EQ/Sub
HP flying/EQ/Return/RS
Fire Blast

Needs prediction or baton pass a sub to work.

SA zards are not effective as belly druming ones.

PS: No one uses wing attack. *LOLOL*
omg an 11 year old who knows about competitive battling? :o

but yeah, always go hp flying and earthquake.

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 7:10 PM

Dunno if that was a insult or a good remark but I just start this thing 1 one week ago so I don't about EVs and Natures alot.

Anyways, RMT is fun since I get to see older kids posting n00h sets and then beening laughed at by "pros" so it's fun. But it also helps me get better by reading the "pro's" post tho.

Charactarantula July 15th, 2005 7:20 PM

if you really want to get good go to smogon's forums.

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 7:24 PM

I already go to smogon. I just browse as a "guest"
Good thing there's no n00bs on smogon. Koffing hazes them away. =P

Anyways, I pretty much know the movesets, I just need to get the EVs and Natures right.

Charactarantula July 15th, 2005 7:35 PM

http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/personality.shtml

this should help. Dont step foot in there forums, they suck.

Golden Groudon July 16th, 2005 5:49 AM

I kow the natures, I just don't know which nature on which set. People these days are always like: "this has to outrun this" or that has to ohko that" ETC.

Giga July 16th, 2005 6:04 AM

There are some noobs at smogon. And charizard is UU anyway, the belly drum set is the best.

CipherDakim12 July 16th, 2005 6:10 AM

Try this:

[email protected] Berry:

Wing Attack
Flamethrower
Sword Dance
Earthquake

I always go with this set

Golden Groudon July 16th, 2005 6:25 AM

Giga: At least serebii has more n00bs. =P

Cipher: Whing Attack?

HP flying>Aerial Ace>Wing Attack


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