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Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 10:51 AM

New Team...
 
I know, I've got lots of teams, but this time, I've done my homework!

Metagross @ Lefties
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Sp. Def
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Psychic
- HP Fire
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion

Dragonite (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 17 HP / 238 Spd / 255 Sp. Atk
Modest Nature (- Atk, + Sp. Atk)
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute

Dodrio (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Return
- Quick Attack
- HP Fighting

Blaziken (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 37 Def / 120 Spd / 45 Sp. Atk / 56 Sp. Def
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
- Sky Uppercut
- Rock Slide
- Flamethrower
- Thunderpunch

Manectric (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Static
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+ Spd, - Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Crunch
- HP Grass

Aggron (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 74 HP / 255 Atk / 181 Sp. Atk
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Rock Slide
- Metal Claw



Please review!! Open to constructive critism.

Agent9 July 15th, 2005 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Kun
I know, I've got lots of teams, but this time, I've done my homework!

Metagross @ Lefties
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Sp. Def
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Psychic
- HP Fire
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion
This one is okay
Dragonite (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 17 HP / 238 Spd / 255 Sp. Atk
Modest Nature (- Atk, + Sp. Atk)
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute EQ

Dodrio (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Return
- Quick Attack Tri Attack
- HP Fighting

Blaziken (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 37 Def / 120 Spd / 45 Sp. Atk / 56 Sp. Def
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
- Sky Uppercut
- Rock Slide
- Flamethrower
- Thunderpunch
This one is okay
Manectric (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Static
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+ Spd, - Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Crunch
- HP Grass
This is okay
Aggron (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 74 HP / 255 Atk / 181 Sp. Atk
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Rock Slide
- Metal Claw
I have no comment what soever on this but it's okay.


Please review!! Open to constructive critism.

It's a balanced team that can work around weakness. I would swap Aggron for a water type.

Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 11:49 AM

Dragonite is pure special, all moves cover his weaknesses, sub is to give some cover...
Thanks, I'll consider a good water for aggron... Anyone have some suggestions?

Ham July 15th, 2005 2:27 PM

I tried Special Draggy and it wasn't good at all.

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 3:01 PM

Yea. BoltBeamSubPuncher is much better.

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Sub
Focus Pouch
T-Bolt
Ice Beam

Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 3:28 PM

the Subpunching BoltBeaming Dragonite is too common... I replaced DClaw with Beam, so now Dragonite does know boltbeam, but also f thrower and sub. Still a dominately special, but without dclaw... I've used him and he fits best with my team as a special...

Charactarantula July 15th, 2005 3:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Kun
the Subpunching BoltBeaming Dragonite is too common

its the only effective one.

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 4:58 PM

Yes, the only time you want a nite>mence is when you're going to use that set.

Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 5:04 PM

Then what is the best moveset for Mence? Is it better than nite? I've never used mence in a battle, in game or not... So I dunno..

Golden Groudon July 15th, 2005 5:53 PM

Mence has more speed and a little more attack.

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Dragon Dance
EQ
Rock Slide
HP flying

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HP flying
FireBlast
EQ
R-Slide

Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 6:15 PM

Why is FBlast always recommended over Fthrower? I thought FBlast has poor acc? 120 power and 85 acc... Fthrower is only 25 less power with full acc... So whats so special?


BTW: I'll use the CBmence, but without the CB being held.. I HATE CB... Have no use for it and hate the fact that you can only use one move and I dont' like to switch out if not necessary...

Edit: Whats the EVs for CBmence? and what nature? Nvrmind.. I'll look it up...

Rubberbandman July 15th, 2005 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Kun
I know, I've got lots of teams, but this time, I've done my homework!

Metagross @ Lefties
Trait: Clear Body[/b]
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Sp. Def
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Psychic/Agility
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion

Why have attack EVs and have an Adamant nature and have psychic with HP fire?

orangekows July 15th, 2005 6:18 PM

Quote:

Metagross @ Lefties
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Sp. Def
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Agility/Shadow Ball/Sludge Bomb
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion

if you want to use agilitygross, give it 198 speed so after an agility it can outspeed base 130's. but if you don't give it agility, give it choice band

Dragonite (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 17 HP / 238 Spd / 255 Sp. Atk
Modest Nature (- Atk, + Sp. Atk)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute

give it quiet nature. like 252 hp/190 sp atk/68 spd i guess =/

Dodrio (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Early Bird
EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Return
- Quick Attack
- HP Ground

Blaziken (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 37 Def / 120 Spd / 45 Sp. Atk / 56 Sp. Def
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
- Sky Uppercut
- Rock Slide
- Flamethrower/Fire Blast
- Swords Dance

Manectric (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Static
EVs: 255 Spd / 255 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+ Spd, - Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Crunch
- HP Grass

yeah, use raikou

Aggron (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 74 HP / 255 Atk / 181 Sp. Atk
Adamant Nature (+ Atk, - Sp. Atk)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Rock Slide
- Metal Claw

NO METAL CLAW. IT SUCKS. okay, give it thunder/fire blast as a piece of crap skarmbliss counter but don't because subpunchboltbeam dragonite is there for that. give it earthquake over metal claw.

Please review!! Open to constructive critism.
the EV's are weird and i'm too tired to fix them

Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 6:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endamaster
Why have attack EVs and have an Adamant nature and have psychic with HP fire?

Here's what Smogon.com has to say reguarding that moveset:
"Destroys physical walls, explodes on other jerks. Psychic Weezing and friends, HP Fire stops Skarmory and Forretress, and Meteor Mash destroys any Blissey that comes in to stop you. Psychic is also nice for waters that concentrate primarily on defense and not special defense. Explosion for a last resort against Suicune... or whatever you may need to explode on."

Besides, Sp. Atk is 200+ which gives Psychic plenty of juice...

On the mence issue.. Here's what I got;

Mence (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Intimidate
Adamant Nature
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Same moves as CBMence...

Adamant to give him 400+ Atk and still have 230 Sp. Atk

@ orangekows

I've already explained my gross, I've fixed nite, and replaced (kinda, I'm still thinkin) with Mence, I don't like my Dodrio, need a better replacement, I'm not so keen with fblast on Blaziken, and don't like stat increasment moves, i never use them, on manectric, i don't use ubers, don't battle them either, no exceptions, and finally, I don't like metal claw either, I needed a replacement move so gave it mclaw for stab.. will change tho, most definately.

orangekows July 15th, 2005 6:38 PM

actually you're wrong. hp fire and psychic on metagross is lol. and stat increasment moves aren't a waste of time. and raikou is not uber. stop posting ^_^

Night-Kun July 15th, 2005 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekows
actually you're wrong. hp fire and psychic on metagross is lol. and stat increasment moves aren't a waste of time. and raikou is not uber. stop posting ^_^

That is Smogon's opinion, not mine, thank you very much for the rude remark. I consider stat increasment moves a waste of my time, if you don't, good for you, its your own opinion. You've already insulted me and I'm not going to spend my time wasting it on you. In my first post I said I was open to constructive critism, that did not mean to insult me. And yes Raiku is uber because legendaries are uber and yes, Raikou is a legendary poke. Now I am getting very tired of arguing with such a young child. You should learn some manners for your elders. I'm ending this discussion, if you reply to this thread again I will report you.

BOT: Does anyone have a good sub for Dodrio? I haven't mad any changes to its moveset or EVs so its the same as it was in my first post...

Charactarantula July 15th, 2005 6:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Kun
That is Smogon's opinion, not mine, thank you very much for the rude remark.

just so you know, smogons opinion is rally a fact and with your opinion, youll get owned at netbattle. green day suck.

orangekows July 15th, 2005 6:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night-Kun
That is Smogon's opinion, not mine, thank you very much for the rude remark. I consider stat increasment moves a waste of my time, if you don't, good for you, its your own opinion. You've already insulted me and I'm not going to spend my time wasting it on you. In my first post I said I was open to constructive critism, that did not mean to insult me. And yes Raiku is uber because legendaries are uber and yes, Raikou is a legendary poke. Now I am getting very tired of arguing with such a young child. You should learn some manners for your elders. I'm ending this discussion, if you reply to this thread again I will report you.

BOT: Does anyone have a good sub for Dodrio? I haven't mad any changes to its moveset or EVs so its the same as it was in my first post...

legends aren't uber. raikou base stat total=580. dragonite base stat total=600.


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