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Espeon Vs Alakazam
First off im having trouble getting the espion, he is level 41 and still isnt happy and wont evolve(I am in ruby version). Second I want a psychic on my team to beat my friends Alakazam is Espeon a good choice, What moves should i give him. thank you in advanced. :bandit:
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Yes, because Espeons Attack and Defense Stats are quite better. Shall I compared a Espeon to Alakazam statwise?
[email protected] Stats: HP-240 Attack-84 Defense-88 Sp. Atk-320 Sp. Def-220 Speed-290 [email protected] 100 Stats: Attack-150 Defense-145 Sp. Atk-320 Sp. Def-230 Speed-280 See my point? Espeon is great! Always choose it over Alakazam. Its stats make a real difference. |
Alakazam has more SA and SPD but meh.
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[email protected] berry Psychic Calm Mind Thunderpunch Fire Punch/Ice Punch [email protected] Psychic Calm Mind Baton Pass Substitute See the diffence? Espeon can't do anything against dark types like tyranitar and houndoom, while Alakazam can do a good damage to almost everything. I prefer to use rather Alakazam because of that. Espeon doesn't counter Alakazam well. |
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Well there's an idea... |
Na. I don't think he's that dumb.
He was prob just trying to get a good psychic poke. |
(sigh) You guys really can't make this easy, can you?
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Explain.
BTW: You make things sound "not easy" when you make your statement uncomprehendable. |
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Zam is always a better choice then espeon, if im not mistaken epeon is UU and Zam is OU, and since zam gets the elemental punches, and espeon dosent really get anything, zam owns even if the stats are lower.
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Espeon is not UU, it would tear the metagame apart. Its only not OU because people don't realize how good it really is. It can set up on anything that abuses special attacks and BP it off to a sweeper perfectly, though actually attacking is does pale in comparison to alakazam
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Basicly, they have different roles.
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yep, though espeon rapes alakazam 1 on 1
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i disagree, everytime i fight espeon, i destroy it with Zam.
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Nah Espeon > alakazam....
however i do admit that they tend to fill different roles alakazam is like a Special CB'er. while espeon does more than sweep...[good thing since its Sp movepool is limited to psychic and bite] |
if espeon has Calm Mind+Sub or Bite or BP Alakazam really shouldn't (can't) destroy it
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Thanks
I finaly got him evolved and thanks for the suggestions on move sets..
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I've always gone Espeon as my pschic pokemon choice.
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Alakazam is good, but the stats are much worse
I always go with Espeon |
Dude, you said that like 1million times on this thread already. -_-
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Alakazam has more raw sweeping power, but Espeon has a slightly better stat arangement, and better stat-increasing ability, not to mention it learns Baton Pass.
that is their differnece. Zam sees more use becuase of aforementioned raw power, but Epsy can sweep a team if it gets some CMs off. it's all in what you need. |
You cannot compare Espeon to Alakazam. They have very different roles. If you want a sweeper, go with Zam. If you want a BPer go with Espeon. Plain and simple
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Espeon can sweep when it gets a few CM up.
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With what? Psychic only? Espeon has a ****ty special movepool, while Zam has a great one, plus it can also get CM in and sweep hard.
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Sure. Espeon doesn't have a moveset to speak of but at least it gets STAB with psy.
But aleast Espeon can take a hit. |
why would you sweep with espeon, tyranitar can stop it dead.
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and alakazam does what to T-Tar?
I was using HP: grass Zam, but, I suppose that HP: Grass could also apply for espeon, who can take a hit or two |
About the sweeping thing, what I was trying to say is that it could deal a nice amount of damage if you got CMs up but of course, it's really made for baton passing.
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Newsflash, Sweepers were never meant to take hits. Their only use is to sweep hard and fast as many pokemon as possible. Something Espeon can't dowith only Psychic.
Espeon isn't meant to sweep |
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Avg Damage 23% Max Damage 24% I'm sure that ice punching is productive |
OHKOs of Psychic sweepers ususally occur due to EQ/Facade/Return/Rock Slide/Sludge Bomb. Not Crunch. That makes Espy better because its defenses are better. And Zam's Element punches? HP=Element Punches. Actually, I have HP Rock on an Espeon. I have lost count of th number of Murkrows I have killed with it.
Espy>Zam. That's all there is to it. The slight Speed difference matters not. |
What OHKOs pyshic pokemon?
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He meant other pokemon with physical moves kill more psychics
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omg but brick break can hurt tyranitar!
it probably could too |
No. It would take a lot of Atk EVs and a +Atk nature to even have a chance at OHKOing Tyranitar with Focus Punch. BB would be a 2HKO with average damage, but once again, that's with maxed Atk, and guess what? HP:Grass does the same thing w/o the consequence of blowing all your EVs on Atk.
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I used to have an Espeon (until I lost my game) and it was great! It had 394 Sp Atk!
I forgot the moes it had though. The point is, use Espeon. |
good job on having max special attack espeon ingame :)
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Kazam, no contest. Kazam has far better Sp.Atk (369/405 > 359/394), Speed (339/372 > 319/350) and moveset. Espeons will most often run Psy, Cm, HP Water/Grass, and Baton Pass/Wish. Kazam on the other hand isn't as predictable and can mess up teams if it is using Trick. Kazam can also use more than one punch in its moveset, but what can Espeon do? Bite? Thats pathetic, it really is. As for this "Def" thing, it doesn't matter. A good 90% or so of all Psychic Pokemon has horrible physical defence (excluding Meta, Claydol and Lugia), so once again Espeon is stumped by Kazam.
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here's some damages for you: Average Skarmory: Minimum Damage 75% Average Damage 81% Maximum Damage 88% Blissey: Minimum Damage 40% Average Damage 43% Maximum Damage 47% Average DDmence: Minimum Damage 128% Average Damage 140% Maximum Damage 151% Average Metagross: Minimum Damage 30% Average Damage 33% Maximum Damage 35% in other words, not pathetic, it really isn't. if it had HP fire(which it should have if it carries a second attack move) Skarm and Metagross are screwed. Quote:
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# of evolved psychic types: 32 and quite a few of those are at 60/65 base. more like about 40% have horrible defense. Quote:
you sir phail. |
Espeon is way better, and I;m not just saying that 'cause it's my fav pokemon.
Don't get me wrong, I like Alakazam and Espeon, I just think that Espeon is better, in my opinion anyway ^_^; |
Well, Espeon is better if you can pull off the CMs. It's a matter of pulling it off. Alakazam, of course, needs good prediction skills to CM up, as well, so what really matters is what you want to use it for. Espyjump is a BPing Special Tank (thus using a Calm nature, as you all know), and gets its power from CMs and protection from its Subs. Alakazam (imo) works best Modest, as it's meant to be an all out sweeper. If you've already got a Special Tank, then you should use Alakazam. If you need to fill the role that Espeon presents, you'll also need something worthy to pass to, but otherwise, it's their slightly different roles that determine which would be better for your team.
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Im gonna have to go with Alakazam on this one
~TSBK~ |
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Calculation Results (Jolly) Minimum Damage 45% Average Damage 49% Maximum Damage 53% Calculation Results (Adamant) Minimum Damage 50% Average Damage 54% Maximum Damage 58% Quote:
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If I knew what anyone was talking about anymore I could argue something.
Spike, do it like A.coz and I are doing it. |
Oh my bad, didn't see that you wanted to pass to Boahtar. Well, I guess this argument is over.
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