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Do You Guys Think this Game Has Potential to be a GameFreak Magnum Opus?
I do. I'm not too hyped about the open world idea as I wasn't one of the countless of Pokemon fans begging for an open world Pokemon game but I believe the fact that they are utilizing an open world formula can present opportunities for them to build on this as a magnum opus level creation in GameFreaks constantly growing catalog. What do you guys think? I'm trying to not have my expectations be too high but I just have a feeling about this game
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Optimism and hope isn't really my thing, so the possibility that this could be amazing and what the franchise needs isn't something I can believe in personally. But to put my cynicism aside for a second, I don't know how we can really begin to guess whether it could be good or bad when we have so little information about the game available. But that then does mean that, at this point, any of it being great, it being shit, or it being something in-between are all very possible.
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That will depend entirely on who you ask. Personally I would say not - even though we have so little information about the games, going by the release trailer alone it doesn't stand a chance at being considered this because visually it's appalling. It looks to perform just as badly as SnS do - that Chingling animation, my god - and it has a decidedly muddy feel to it. They would need to do a hell of a lot of sprucing for it to approach the kind of visual quality levels we should be seeing of a AAA Nintendo Switch title. Gameplay-wise I can't see it happening either, because if this is going to be a new style of gameplay for Pokemon, they won't get it right the first time. This will be a blueprint for better games to come, much as SnS felt like beta test titles for working on the Switch.
But I think a lot of people will consider this game to be a magnum opus of sorts - if it's the open world Pokemon people have been asking for for years, it'll receive critical acclaim and fandom praise irrespective of its quality. Sword and Shield had a lot of controversy surrounding them, but they still have more than a few fans. Things like this are an individual value judgement, there is no objective way of classifying a video game, either as a magnum opus or as a complete flop. Opinions are never anything more than opinions. So really, the only way to find out how this game is going to be regarded is to wait for release, play it for yourself, and go talk about it with like-minded people. But don't expect a consensus or an objective measurement, because these things are impossible when it comes to subjective topics like this. But tl;dr, from what I've seen thus far and based on Game Freak's track record, I do not expect a miraculous recovery from what I see as a steady decline in quality since Generation IV ended, especially if they intend to shake things up a bit. It might be refreshing and a little more engaging, but neither of these things means it will be better, or even good. But it's too early to say either way. |
Potential to be? I would like to think so, but I do not think that it WILL be. I never hopped on the bandwagon of freaking out when I saw the graphics a year before its release but I need to see a more up to date trailer before I really get my hopes up.
I don't think they would release a game with that poor of a framrate and all around lacking graphics but Sw/Sh disappointed there and BD/SP don't look super great, either. |
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Imagine a Pokemon game with actual consequences to your action, character deaths, character relationships, and so on. |
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I believe sword amd shield was a way to test the reaction on an open wolrd mechanich, being such test the wild area of the game in sword and shield.
I believe game freak was testing how buyers, not fans, but buyers would react to such mechamich being implemented in the game. Remeber that the pokemon company and gamefreack are corporations, whose main purpose is to earn money not to please two hundrer fans from the thousand that existe that don,t play the game like a hardcore fan or that just play it as a casual game. Not everyone are looking for a hardcore experience some just want a couple rides before leaving away. My point is that I think gamefreak was cheking if we would like a mechamich like that. I think that legends is going to be a good game, I doubt that it,ll be great but a good game for all. |
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I can't imagine it would be very difficult to add in different game modes and or difficulties that would scale enemy Pokemon, improve AI, have better movesets, be EV trained... people love that shit. I don't think it is good practice to make excuses for shifty capitalist tactics for greedy companies and if these are things people want, they should voice their opinions. The more people you make happy, the more you will sell, pretty obvious there.... |
It might be, but I work on the bussines of game development, and it's very not like that most of the time. The corporations are the ones who desides what will be implemented, and you as programmer have no other option than to obey, or lose your job.
The thing is that most of those desitions are taken through social studies. Where I work the executive department extracts the data from google clicks. And the stadistics are very clear, people like something more or less acroding on the amount of clicks or the time they spent looking for such specific entry in google. You can check yourself through google analitics and see what are the most searched words, and pages, etc... My point is that everything we consume ist aimed to be sold thourgh emotional relation, but not any emotional relation, the emotional relation that the biggest buyers have with the product. In terms on stadistics, the adults and group that has interest in such mechanichs in the Pokemon games don't tend to spend much money, so they will never be an interesting public to please for GF and the Pokemon company. The little kids that asked to their parents for the game, or the casual player that is usualy a teenager that still lives on his/her parents house are the main public, the ones that invest real tangible money on the product. And, as I said before, in terms of stadistics they are the ones who would like the game. Obviously GF has interest in long term fans, but not that much, It's bussines after all. |
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I'm hoping the game is good I never bought Sword and Shield until after the free update was announced even if I did end up buying the DLC I felt that it was a bit empty since so many Pokemon had been cut from the game, but at least they seemed to listen to fans, perhaps that is a bit naive of me to think though. Honestly I look forward to this game more then the DP remakes I just never really wanted remakes of Gen 4, but it is my least favorite generation so perhaps I am biased.
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It'll be interesting to see which way this goes. The reaction to Legends was one of excitement and concern; a lot of people (including myself) are concerned about the visuals and frame rate. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt but when you see beautiful cel shaded worlds like in BOTW and Genshin Impact, it's hard not to feel concerned after that Legends trailer. Here's hoping the next trailer looks better.
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I'm not sure what to expect with this. I can see the story being really engaging but I'm struggling to see how the gameplay will work with this. Can't wait to see more
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I worry a bit that they're rushing the game and that it won't be as great as it could have been if they had added a year to the production time. A few months ago we saw what, pre-alpha fotage? And now they say it will be out early 2022. Um.
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I don't think so.
I think it's great that they're being experimental and trying to push the boat out....but I'm finding it hard not to see this game as something of a practice run. I think the "Magnus Opus" may come, but it'll probably be a game that builds on what this game introduces...and not this game itself. |
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Simply put, yes! Especially now with the latest information
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Yes, I think this could be their best work yet.
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I'm playing wait and see for this one. I'm worried about these open wilderness areas we're seeing. Will they have more to them than just catching Pokemon aimlessly? Will there be an incentive to catch Pokemon (more than just filling the pokedex) if that's all they offer? Another thing that worries me and that some have already mentioned, is how quickly it's coming out. I'd feel a lot better if I saw more time and care going into this.
On the positive side I will say so far I enjoy the style they're going for. Some of the new Pokemon designs they showed really appealed to me. I also like that it's taking place in what seems like the far past. Time will tell. |
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