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Pokémon Trainer Marnie November 18th, 2021 7:43 AM

Thoughts on BD and SP?
 
First of all i am so happy to play my favourite Pokémon game again ^-^ i loved diamond so much back in the day, i know alot of the fanbase have mixed feelings about it but i feel it's a faithful remake with some good quality of life improvements and added features, but that is my opinion of course, i think the chibi artstyle resembles the style of the original in some way as you were kind of a chibi sprite walking around hehe, i wish the music did get a improvement, keep the themes the same but with a new sound perhaps it would sound great.

Not having overworld Pokémon slightly troubles me as the new improved underground is where it all is, i also am disappointed about the hidden base feature, is it all just statues? In the original you could have all kinds of decorations, even a tv! and Pokémon dolls! i should hope the event items are available for download too as Darkrai was my first event i attented at Argos and it was such a weird but interesting legendary to catch.

You can access the underground before your second gym badge so i fear it could break the balance of the game if you obtain some very powerful Pokémon from the new underground, all in all i find the remake exciting and worth my time :) i also loved Sword due to the character customization and such.

Let me know what your opinions are.

Marnie <3

ZeoStar November 18th, 2021 9:32 PM

I adore it.

Sheep November 19th, 2021 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokémon Trainer Marnie (Post 10430119)
having overworld Pokémon slightly troubles me as the new improved underground is where it all is, i also am disappointed about the hidden base feature, is it all just statues?

Yeah, it seems it’s just statues, which is disappointing… I would’ve loved to decorate my base with more than just those. Not sure why they ended up limiting it in such a way.

But the games are really good despite some of their flaws, so I still think they’re worth playing! Did you get (Brilliant) Diamond this time around too? ❤️

pardal78 November 19th, 2021 3:46 AM

Anything about post game yet?
Like battle tower and this kind of stuff?

Lyonyagami November 19th, 2021 4:06 AM

Eu realmente não curti muito o estilo Chibi, tipo, Diamond e Pearl são jogos da geração q mais me viciou em pokémon e me fez ir mais a fundo. Mesmo que seja para relembrar o passado como afirmam, não consigo curtir essa ideia, eu queria muito explorar a região de Sinnoh igual em Galar, realmente estava bem ansioso pelo remake.
Regredir algo para saciar nostalgia dos fãs está virando comum, visto Black/White.
Bom, Sinnoh tem meu coração e meu grande amor, acho que minha alta espectativa acabou me frustando.

NipahRika November 19th, 2021 6:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyonyagami (Post 10430411)
Eu realmente não curti muito o estilo Chibi, tipo, Diamond e Pearl são jogos da geração q mais me viciou em pokémon e me fez ir mais a fundo. Mesmo que seja para relembrar o passado como afirmam, não consigo curtir essa ideia, eu queria muito explorar a região de Sinnoh igual em Galar, realmente estava bem ansioso pelo remake.
Regredir algo para saciar nostalgia dos fãs está virando comum, visto Black/White.
Bom, Sinnoh tem meu coração e meu grande amor, acho que minha alta espectativa acabou me frustando.

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Tendoman77 November 19th, 2021 6:43 AM

How's the Pokedex? Is it based on Platinum's expanded one or the original one where there's only like 5 fire types in the entire reigon? Be very unfortunate if it was the latter.

DarkDragonMeister November 19th, 2021 6:48 AM

Sadly it appears it isn't based on the Platinum Dex as you can't catch Pokemon like Ralts and Houndour in the wild BUT you can catch them in the underground areas.

Sheep November 19th, 2021 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pardal78 (Post 10430408)
Anything about post game yet?
Like battle tower and this kind of stuff?

There is a Battle Tower postgame, yeah, which has online co-op. But no news on if we’ll ever get a full-on Battle Frontier area yet, but it’s possible it will eventually come as DLC?

NipahRika November 19th, 2021 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheep (Post 10430470)
There is a Battle Tower postgame, yeah, which has online co-op. But no news on if we’ll ever get a full-on Battle Frontier area yet, but it’s possible it will eventually come as DLC?

I am glad there's a Battle Tower at least with online co-op. I do hope we will get a Battle Frontier as a DLC or so.

Ninetales November 19th, 2021 2:02 PM

I am absolutely, unequivocally in love with the games thus far and I just began playing. I’m so tremendously delighted to continue my journey!!

Raticate128 November 19th, 2021 2:53 PM

I'm enjoying it personally!

I didn't realise just how much I would appreciate the HM Poketch thingy. It really is great to be able to have whatever Pokemon I want on my team and not to have to think about HMs at all. Sure we had that in SwSh but SwSh was a new game and region, so while I appreciated it there I didn't really notice the difference as much, if that makes sense.

I also like how much faster battles are and that the HP bar doesn't take 3 million years to go down. That really was frustrating in Gen 4 and I feel like even though the pace of battles is still slower than necessary, the dramatic increase has made these games much more fun.

The graphics are decent, but tbh I think one of the largest gaming franchises in the world could have done better. The battle animations are disappointing. Machop using Low Kick and punching? That's clearly not right and it would have made more sense to just have moves like that just move forward and back or something.

Overall though I'm definitely enjoying this version of Sinnoh so far and definitely glad I bought Shining Pearl!

Tendoman77 November 19th, 2021 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDragonMeister (Post 10430453)
Sadly it appears it isn't based on the Platinum Dex as you can't catch Pokemon like Ralts and Houndour in the wild BUT you can catch them in the underground areas.

Wow that's still extremely unfortunate. I know there's the whole "being truly faithful" thing but at least not going THAT far with sticking with the horrible D/P regional pokedex.

Least there's the underground as you mentioned Dark.

pardal78 November 20th, 2021 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheep (Post 10430470)
There is a Battle Tower postgame, yeah, which has online co-op. But no news on if we’ll ever get a full-on Battle Frontier area yet, but it’s possible it will eventually come as DLC?

No triple and rotation battles I believe...
Is it possible to send pokemon from other games using bank/home?

_pheebee November 20th, 2021 3:34 AM

This is amazing!

Absolute amazing! This remake feels alot better than ORAS, and almost on par with HGSS.
I'mma be playing this for ages!!

DarkDragonMeister November 20th, 2021 5:46 AM

I know right? One would think they would have at least used the Platinum Dex for the remakes.

Lord_Sesshoumaru November 20th, 2021 7:24 AM

I'm disappointed that we don't have the WTC, Global Room only having 2 players at a time, no LAN Mode, and no Pokemon HOME (they still cant come up with a solution to allow players to connect to HOME once they beat the E4). Early adopters get the worst versions and have to wait for patches to get the full game.

Iceshadow3317 November 21st, 2021 6:24 AM

I don't like it. FRLG, HGSS, ORAS, and even Let's Go. Have felt better to play.

There is nothing to look forward to. There is no variety in pokemon. The amount of pokemon with sturdy is insane. It just has not felt great. I have beaten the 2nd Gym and Galactic in Eterna and I just don't enjoy the game. If I am honest, it is probably one of the worst main series pokemon games I've played.

Why go back to single use TMs? Why use the old dex when clearly there is not a variety? I just don't like the games. I am starting to wonder if this is why I began to lose interest in Pokemon during 4th Gen.

It is out right not worth the $60 and if I had a playable 4th gen game that was legit, I would have never thought about buying these games at all. If I am brutally honest. It is close to one of the worst games I have spent $60 on.

mikey November 21st, 2021 7:45 AM

I love it and am having a great time with it :)

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ November 22nd, 2021 2:16 AM

It's legit the best remake since FR/LG, and leave it to someone besides Game Freak to recapture that magic. I'm very much enjoying this trip down memory lane.

Roni November 22nd, 2021 3:00 AM

Seeing the playthroughs on YT makes me wish I had a Switch right now. Not much a fan of the graphics, but I'm in love with how expansive the Great Underground is. They did a good job remaking my childhood fave.

.hack November 22nd, 2021 10:47 AM

I wanted to love this game going into it so it would've taken a really bad job I think for me to not enjoy it. I have however noticed it seems to lack some polish since I started my save.
And some of the main complaints for this title like no toggle for exp share/affection mechanic are such a relatively quick & easy fix/implementation you'd think that'd of been picked up in QA or playtesting.

I also replayed Lets Go recently and noticed some major slow down in certain areas that they still haven't patched or fixed (so I guess never will?) this long after release, you'd think with the major IP Pokemon is, they'd at least invest in ironing these minor things out to make them overall better experiences.

I was someone who loved SwSh and didn't jump on the gamefreak hatetrain then, but this game and lets go definitely give me vibes of negligence (it's pokemon it'll sell anyway, why bother with these minor improvements). I still really enjoy and had great times with both BDSP and Let's Go just want to see them respect the IP a bit more I guess, with the landscape of gaming today they could easily chuck out a patch whenever they want fixing any bugs/issues and adding any heavily requested features (like the exp share toggle).

DarkDragonMeister November 26th, 2021 8:07 AM

Honestly it feels like I'm playing DP with better 3D graphics. The only thing that I say is an improved is the speed of surfing and HP going down along with HMs being a feature on the PokeTech.

But everything is just, well unwanted.

Yeah I get the whole 'Faithful Remakes' BS but couldn't they be Faithful and IMPROVED remakes too? Maybe by including features from the Platinum games?

Like say the move tutors that taught your pokemon a variety of moves?
The Platinum Dex? Yeah I know most of the Pokemon added in that game can be caught in the Underground but honestly I rather catch on where they were in Platinum instead.
And speaking of the underground. I am not a fan of the fact that the Secret Bases are just meant to hold statues, i much rather be able to decorate the place as I see fit and like in ORAS make them in a sort of minigym.

Honestly I'm just playing it just in case the game data will unlock something in Arceus Legends. Plus I am looking forward to battling the E4 and Cynthia since I heard they're really tough in this game.

ReKoil November 26th, 2021 8:26 AM

The graphics took some getting used too, and the game just feels a bit rough around the edges in general to me.
That said, it's an improvement over the originals no doubt. And since I never played Platinum it's an improvement over that too 😜

Enjoying the game so far, I'm taking my sweet time crawling through at a slow place and basically trying to complete the dex as much as possible while still progressing through the game ^.^

Jumps7yl3r November 26th, 2021 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pardal78 (Post 10430720)
No triple and rotation battles I believe...
Is it possible to send pokemon from other games using bank/home?

Not yet. To avoid people finishing their dex day 1, Nintendo denies the ability for players to send pokemon through pokemon Home at the moment. They will probably allow it either in 6 months or 1 year after the game has been launched. ..... or so I read somewhere


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