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Sheep December 26th, 2021 6:18 PM

Would you want to see new types added?
 
Would you guys be interested in seeing a new Pokémon type introduced to the series? Or do you feel the current type chart is fine as it is, and no further introductions are needed?

Mintaka☆ December 27th, 2021 12:22 AM

Well... no, quite the opposite. Sometimes I don't believe in Fairies and actually want the type chart to return to how it was before Gen VI. To tell you the truth, I still question whether the Fairy-type was a necessary addition outside of providing a third check to Dragon-types and Dark-types, which other types (such as Steel, Bug or Poison for Dragon) could have covered. (And yes, I know my favourite Pokémon is part Fairy, but I often forget about it because I appreciate Mimikyu way more as a Ghost-type.)

Additionally, I would tentatively rename Flying, Ground and Steel to Air, Earth and Metal-types to better represent the traditional elements as well as to account for variety within the types - e.g. the Hoppip family, Gyarados and Minior in Flying/Air.

Roni December 27th, 2021 1:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheep (Post 10445907)
do you feel the current type chart is fine as it is, and no further introductions are needed?

I felt this in the era before Fairy types. It's always felt complete to me. Adding new types at this point is probably just so that they have something fresh to put on the table for newer gens. Renaming types we already have this late into the franchise though, I don't think would be a good idea, but I agree with the logic of Air type.

Fairy December 27th, 2021 4:47 AM

Sure. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I fell in love with the Fairy type and whose to say another type won’t be cool too? GF (while I’m not always confident they know what they’re doing), has managed to make a type chart that feels organized and reasonable. They could probably do it again.

Corveone December 27th, 2021 5:54 AM

I wouldn't like to see more types. That doesn't mean that I believe the type chart is perfect as it is though. I think it's better than the pre-Gen 6 chart, but it still has room for improvement. However, that could be done by simply tweaking certain types' number of resistances and weaknesses, no need to add more types.

ReKoil December 27th, 2021 7:13 AM

No need for more types imo.
But they should tweak some of the existing ones.

colours November 8th, 2022 4:49 AM

while there isn't really a pressing need for a new type, i would be lying if i said i wasn't interested in peering into some hypothetical crystal ball to see if Game Freak has any additional plans for the type chart. Fairy was an interesting addition, who's to say there won't be anything else in the future?

Fact Checking Gardevoir November 10th, 2022 5:16 AM

I also would be curious about new types for new and existing pokémon! Like, a Light type as opposite to Dark type, a Sound type for the likes of Whismur, a Sweet type for the likes of Alcremie,... a Mecha type for Voltorb, Magnezone, etc... ? Who knows, it could be a nice surprise!

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Originally Posted by Vielleroue (Post 10445998)
(And yes, I know my favourite Pokémon is part Fairy, but I often forget about it because I appreciate Mimikyu way more as a Ghost-type.)

My second favourite pokémon is part Fairy too! ^^

Sweet Serenity November 10th, 2022 6:57 AM

Yes, I would definitely love to see some new types. The idea for a Sound-type that Wolfe Glick mentioned in his videos were a great idea. However, I am more interested in a Space-type for Pokémon, considering that a good amount of Pokémon come from outer space. Pokémon like Deoxys, Minior, Nihilego, Elgyem, Elgyem and Beheeyem, Cleffa, Clefairy, and Clefable, and so on could acquire the Space-type in some form or fashion. Energy in space is based upon electromagnetic energy, in which its attacks could mainly be a form of electromagnetic radiation, which is the energy produced from stars. Thus, I could see it being super effective against a decent amount of types such as Normal, Ice, Ground (since terrestrial external radiation can erode the ground for example), and Flying, but I can see it being resisted by Bug (since many bugs can survive radiation), Steel (since stainless steels resists radiation), Rock, and Electric (since the two already go hand in hand). I could definitely see it working.

virtualpet November 10th, 2022 4:27 PM

I've been playing ROM hacks which have new types so I've warmed up to them a little bit, but I don't think it's really necessary right now and the most I can really think that we might need is more types that aren't not very effective against steel but I'm fine with steel being a defensively sturdy type. I wouldn't be opposed to them retweaking the current types but I think at this point most long term Pokemon fans are so used to how the types are.

Palamon November 10th, 2022 11:23 PM

I do think we need a new type to buff the ice type and maybe Grass, or something. But, I now think that's becoming increasingly more unlikely as the years go on. But, you never know. More and more type combinations are being used up. And one day, all of them will be filled in. Maybe that's when they'll create new types.

But. I really hope when we do, we don't go above 25, because that's just too many.

soulzzii November 11th, 2022 6:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Palamon (Post 10570935)
I do think we need a new type to buff the ice type and maybe Grass, or something. But, I now think that's becoming increasingly more unlikely as the years go on. But, you never know. More and more type combinations are being used up. And one day, all of them will be filled in. Maybe that's when they'll create new types.

i just wish they would rebalance the types chart, while i dont necessarily think we need more types, i just wish they would buff/nerf some types, i love a lot of ice types pokemon, but its sadly one of the worst types out there,i would even agree grass type is a better use competitively.

Sweet Serenity November 11th, 2022 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by soulzzii (Post 10571003)
i just wish they would rebalance the types chart, while i dont necessarily think we need more types, i just wish they would buff/nerf some types, i love a lot of ice types pokemon, but its sadly one of the worst types out there,i would even agree grass type is a better use competitively.

Well, Ice-type is probably the worst defensive type. However, it is arguably the best offensive type in the game.

Corveone November 12th, 2022 6:21 AM

It would have been so easy to make Dragon neutral against Steel, and make Ice resist Dragon instead. Not a huge boost, but at least would be a little help to the Ice type defensively, improve their already existing role as Dragon killers, while rebalancing the type chart a bit more. And Dragon moves' effectiviness would remain more or less the same, if not more.

There's not even a good reason to why Steel must resist Dragon.

soulzzii November 16th, 2022 5:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Serenity (Post 10571131)
Well, Ice-type is probably the worst defensive type. However, it is arguably the best offensive type in the game.

i guess we could also agree fairy is also one of the best offensive type? the fact that they are immune to dragon makes them kinda op, (not like im complaining lol)

Sweet Serenity November 16th, 2022 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by soulzzii (Post 10573092)
i guess we could also agree fairy is also one of the best offensive type? the fact that they are immune to dragon makes them kinda op, (not like im complaining lol)

I guess you can say that Fairy is one of the best offensive types in the game for that reason. However, I wouldn't say that it is op though because Dragon-type was definitely a type that needed balance. Generation V was definitely a great example of that. Ice-type alone hits 28% of all Pokémon super-effectively, the most of all types, whereas Fairy only hits 16%. Of course, this has to be updated when the new Pokémon get released in two more days.

soulzzii November 16th, 2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Serenity (Post 10573105)
I guess you can say that Fairy is one of the best offensive types in the game for that reason. However, I wouldn't say that it is op though because Dragon-type was definitely a type that needed balance. Generation V was definitely a great example of that. Ice-type alone hits 28% of all Pokémon super-effectively, the most of all types, whereas Fairy only hits 16%. Of course, this has to be updated when the new Pokémon get released in two more days.

those are interesting porcentages, how did you get them?

Sweet Serenity November 16th, 2022 3:19 PM

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Originally Posted by soulzzii (Post 10573281)
those are interesting porcentages, how did you get them?

I actually took the time to do it myself. I just simply took note of all type advantages and calculated the percentage that each type can hit every Pokémon super effectively in the game. I did it because it is useful for helping me when I play Pokémon competitively. I even posted more information regarding type combinations in my blog here.

Mintaka☆ November 16th, 2022 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vielleroue (Post 10445998)
Well... no, quite the opposite. Sometimes I don't believe in Fairies and actually want the type chart to return to how it was before Gen VI. To tell you the truth, I still question whether the Fairy-type was a necessary addition outside of providing a third check to Dragon-types and Dark-types, which other types (such as Steel, Bug or Poison for Dragon) could have covered. (And yes, I know my favourite Pokémon is part Fairy, but I often forget about it because I appreciate Mimikyu way more as a Ghost-type.)

Additionally, I would tentatively rename Flying, Ground and Steel to Air, Earth and Metal-types to better represent the traditional elements as well as to account for variety within the types - e.g. the Hoppip family, Gyarados and Minior in Flying/Air.

Self-quoting because I stand corrected on my answer. The Fairy-type still isn't one of my favourites, but it's a worthy addition to the type chart. Plus, now that I know that the Dark-type is my second-to-least favourite type, I appreciate the Fairy-type even more as a counter for said type.

I also do support the idea of a Sound-type after having played Pokémon Xenoverse, although I would like it to be implemented slightly differently from how it was in that fan game. It was made as a counter for Fairy, Water and Flying, weak to Electric and Dragon, and not very effective against Psychic for some reason. Well, I would like it to be more than that, to stand out on its own instead of just being a competitive counter.

Squirtkipfan01 November 16th, 2022 6:06 PM

Interested? Absolutely
Good idea? Absolutely not
Very interested if game freak have plans for anymore but id doubt we would hear of it for awhile. It DID take them awhile to add fairy

soulzzii November 17th, 2022 4:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Serenity (Post 10573358)
I actually took the time to do it myself. I just simply took note of all type advantages and calculated the percentage that each type can hit every Pokémon super effectively in the game. I did it because it is useful for helping me when I play Pokémon competitively. I even posted more information regarding type combinations in my blog here.

thats actually pretty impressive, good job!

Mimicking Mimikyu November 17th, 2022 4:44 AM

No, not really. I think typing is fine just how it is.

Adam Levine December 19th, 2022 12:11 AM

No, because that would give us 19 types, and 19 is a prime number. Get that indivisibility out of my face.

spoonfed334 December 21st, 2022 12:57 PM

No.

PageEmp December 27th, 2022 1:18 AM

Closest I can think of is a Sound type that hits Electric super effectively, and some other things to balance the type chart, but in general not really. I’d prefer actually balancing out the type chart.

acatfrommars December 27th, 2022 7:20 AM

I think that new types could be cool. It would just be hard for me to think of which new types that should be added, because if there is a new type then there needs to be a type which counteracts that specific type. Maybe instead of new types they could split up Pokemon by more subtypes like different kind of fire types specifically. Maybe blue-fire types have different characteristics then red/orange fire types. A bit abstract, but who knows I would have never thought of a fairy type.

Cherrim December 27th, 2022 10:58 AM

As someone who still sometimes struggles to remember the type matchups for Dark after its addition in gen 2... I feel like it would be a disaster for me if they kept adding more types every few gens hahaha.

That said, I struggle to think of a useful type to add, so I'd be curious what they'd come up with to expand that out.

Mystiqo December 27th, 2022 3:12 PM

As much as I'd like to see a new type, I couldn't help but see GF spawn new issues in ways we wouldn't expect.

Imagine they reveal [New Type] as super effective + immune to Fairy and Dragon, then create a pseudo-legendary that is [Dragon] [New Type].

Amore December 27th, 2022 6:27 PM

I wouldn’t want a new type. I think the chart is pretty well-balanced now. Arguably by Gen V Dragons were nearly in check anyway given there were more new Steel-types, but from what I understand they were still strong after the introduction of Fairy, it was just in Gen VIII’s competitive meta where Zacian ran wild that they seemed to vanish. Presumably in Gen IX they’ll be able to pull their weight (before factoring in the chaos of Tera, of course).

Dastr95 January 3rd, 2023 10:43 PM

No, I'm quite annoyed by the fairy type as well actually.


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