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Ham August 27th, 2005 5:24 PM

Rmt
 
Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 208 HP / 128 Def / 172 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Substitute
- Wish

Mr. Mime (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Soundproof
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Trick

Smeargle (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 200 Def / 108 Spd / 200 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Belly Drum
- Ingrain
- Spore

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Acid Armor
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Surf

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 80 Def / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Baton Pass/Sleep Talk(depends on server mod)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt

VanirElf August 27th, 2005 5:45 PM

interesting team, not many common weaknesses.

...I don't like legendaries though so yeah....

5/10 you team seems solid, you could however use some more straight
forward attackers...the baton pass thing well I think you should limit that
to 2 of your pokemon but it seems to be a theme with you so kudos on that.

so yeah anyway nice team...except for the legend...

SRV August 27th, 2005 5:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ham
Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Protect
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 208 HP / 128 Def / 172 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Substitute
- Wish

Mr. Mime (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Soundproof
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Substitute

Smeargle (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 200 Def / 108 Spd / 200 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Spore
- Mean Look
- Lock-On
- Sheer Cold

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Wish


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 80 Def / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Hidden Power [Ice]/[Grass]
- Thunderbolt

Those are my suggestions. Too lazy to bother with the EVs and items.

§ Bleep § August 27th, 2005 6:01 PM

jask needs protect as a last ditch attacking move, nothing he passes to will need the full +6 speed to function properly.

vaporeon needs full specdef IMO, yes its wierd but it helps and is still 3h from a non DD mence... and it survives against magneton.

Frostbite August 27th, 2005 6:02 PM

This is a very sexy team ;D

Ham August 27th, 2005 6:20 PM

SRV, you do understand what the team does, right?

you understand why that smeargle fails then, right?

you understand why protect's a waste, right?

SRV August 27th, 2005 6:21 PM

Lol. What are you talking about? Sexy?.....XD

Yes I understand why you created that team, and what it does. Build up the stats and Baton Pass, Duh. But you should limit that to only a few party members. That Smeargle definitely does not fail. Once you get many speed boosts, switch to Smeargle, if you can predict a switch or power up.

Ham August 27th, 2005 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanirElf
the baton pass thing well I think you should limit that
to 2 of your pokemon

O_O

what the hell?

do you know what's even going on?

SRV August 27th, 2005 6:25 PM

Why even post your team if you do not care about the suggestions.

Ham August 27th, 2005 6:29 PM

they both fail. I obviously cared if I took the time to tell you they fail and you don't understand the team.

Shadow Tyranitar August 27th, 2005 7:36 PM

hydro pump over surf on vappy i think. i don't know why people use fb>f-thrower, but not hydro pump>surf. anyway, enough special attack to KO Weezing.

Taunt>Wish on Umbreon. or else weezing comes in to ruin your day. I would even suggest Taunt on Smeargle for the same reasons; Spore, BP to jask and swords Dance there for attack support.

hope i helped somewhat.

Ice demon August 27th, 2005 7:57 PM

fire blast is used on physical pokes that have low SpAtt and want an easy way to Ko skarm.And no surf stays on vaporeon

Taunt > substitute on umbry.Especially considering the phazing problem.


Jolly/max Sp evs on Smeragle please.

orangekows August 27th, 2005 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRV
Why even post your team if you do not care about the suggestions.

its because you're giving ****ty suggestions. spore/mean look/lock on/sheer cold is a piece if **** and it fails on baton pass teams ^_^

ROFL trickmime without trick.

your vaporeon set is pointless on a baton pass team

Insanity Mawile August 27th, 2005 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Tyranitar
hydro pump over surf on vappy i think. i don't know why people use fb>f-thrower, but not hydro pump>surf. anyway, enough special attack to KO Weezing.

Taunt>Wish on Umbreon. or else weezing comes in to ruin your day. I would even suggest Taunt on Smeargle for the same reasons; Spore, BP to jask and swords Dance there for attack support.

hope i helped somewhat.

lol Hydro Pump fails at life.

Ninjask (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
k

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 208 HP / 128 Def / 172 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Substitute/Taunt
- Moonlight
Umbreon <3s taunt but that's just imo.

Mr. Mime (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Soundproof
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Trick
k

Smeargle (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 200 Def / 108 Spd / 200 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Belly Drum
- Ingrain
- Spore
yeah Sexgle

Vaporeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Acid Armor
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Surf

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 80 Def / 252 Spd / 176 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Baton Pass/Sleep Talk(depends on server mod)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt
HP Grass for Swampy

Too tired to think of weaknesses

Ham August 28th, 2005 4:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice demon
Taunt > substitute on umbry.Especially considering the phazing problem.

there has not been a phazing problem.

and Swampert isn't a problem at the end of the chain, it cannot OHKO Zapdos, and HP Ice is a simple 2HKO.

orangekows August 28th, 2005 9:31 AM

but i love medicham as a reciever. i use

[email protected]
belly drum
ingrain
spore
baton pass

to medicham

brick break
shadow ball
recover
baton pass

and if any idiot says that there's nothing for medicham to baton pass to, think about it ^_^

Bliksem August 28th, 2005 9:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Tyranitar
hydro pump over surf on vappy i think. i don't know why people use fb>f-thrower, but not hydro pump>surf. anyway, enough special attack to KO Weezing.

Hydro Pump: 120 BP, 80% Acc
Surf: 95 BP, 100% Acc

Fire Blast: 120 BP, 85% Acc
Flamethrower: 95 BP, 100% Acc

That's why people don't use Hydro Pump. The increase in power isn't worth the horrible Accuracy, while Fire Blast's accuracy is like Meteor Mash.

SRV August 28th, 2005 9:46 AM

Ingrain makes the pokemon unable to switch out..or maybe it doesn't matter if you're using Baton Pass?

orangekows August 28th, 2005 9:48 AM

people use hydro pump on phsical sweepers like feraligatr, poliwrath and friends while people use surf on tanks/special sweepers/etc.

fire blast has enough accuracy that alot of people use it over flamethrower.

Quote:

Ingrain makes the pokemon unable to switch out..or maybe it doesn't matter if you're using Baton Pass?
i lol'ed. ingrain is used on baton pass teams so roar has no effect. and it can be baton pass'ed so it doesn't matter if you can't switch out. its also useful for the 1/16th hp recovery each turn.

Ham August 28th, 2005 9:58 AM

Hydro Pump IS NOT SUPER EFFECTIVE ON SKARMORY.

Fire Blast is.


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