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Ham August 30th, 2005 11:59 AM

That previous RMT thread did not contain my actual team
 
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** www.Goatse.cx
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 56 Def / 176 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

lol his name creates links in the battle log. they don't work though :(

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Lemon party
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 112 Atk / 192 Def / 8 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Tubgirl
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Claydol @ Leftovers ** Ridn Spinnas
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Atk / 96 Def / 96 SAtk / 48 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Harlequin Fetus
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 104 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band ** SuperHemorhoids
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

I know there might be Boah problems and Magneton + Heracross weakness.

husk1442 August 30th, 2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ham
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** www.Goatse.cx
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 56 Def / 176 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

leading dusclops is lol, get a better lead pokemon, maybe CBmence over Heracross

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Lemon party
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 112 Atk / 192 Def / 8 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Tubgirl
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

GL with dugtrio, 270 should be enough to deal with him

Claydol @ Leftovers ** Ridn Spinnas
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Atk / 96 Def / 96 SAtk / 48 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Harlequin Fetus
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 104 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band ** SuperHemorhoids
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide



I know there might be Boah problems and Magneton + Heracross weakness.


skarmbliss problem =(
maybe a counter over heracross or claydol

orangekows August 31st, 2005 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ham
Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers ** www.Goatse.cx
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 56 Def / 176 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Pain Split
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

lol his name creates links in the battle log. they don't work though :(

goatse is ****ing sick :(

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Lemon party
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 112 Atk / 192 Def / 8 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

i would give it atleast 200 defense. i like max though

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Tubgirl
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Claydol @ Leftovers ** Ridn Spinnas
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 172 HP / 96 Atk / 96 Def / 96 SAtk / 48 SDef
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

i like relaxed and explosion here.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Harlequin Fetus
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 104 Def / 12 Spd / 96 SAtk / 56 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

240 hp/252 def/atleast 8 spd/rest in special

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band ** SuperHemorhoids
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

i really like sleep talk/facade here. hp ghost>brick break imo

I know there might be Boah problems and Magneton + Heracross weakness.

i think everyone has a magneton+heracross weakness :P

leafgreen386 August 31st, 2005 5:17 PM

Suicune doesn't need max Def, orangekows.

The SkarmBliss combo is overrated imo.

§ Bleep § September 1st, 2005 8:59 AM

i like 212 SPA on bliss for the greater chance of OHKOing mence... but im wierd :-D

Ham September 1st, 2005 11:32 AM

OK, A.coz, tell me another effective physical wall that Spikes and phazes and another special wall that can heal statuses.

leafgreen386 September 1st, 2005 7:14 PM

OK. Skip to the last two paragraphs if you don't feel like reading a lot of pointless garbage that took me too long to type and I don't feel like deleting.

There are too many counters out there now. And neither one can deal much damage. That would leave a lot of teams with only 4 pokemon that can deal damage, if you choose pokemon that can actually do so. If you choose another support pokemon, your foe really only has to take down three pokes to win. Does it sound kinda n00bish? The idea of having too few attackers? I'm not saying anyone should use a team of all out sweepers. But I am saying that most pokes can take Skarm's Drill Peck, and Blissey won't be doing much to anything that can heal itself with ST. Whenever you switch to other pokes, you have a chance of losing one. If you wanted to keep them all perfectly safe you would just use Skarm and Bliss, which isn't possible and still win, as there are SkarmBliss counters. Plus, as previously stated they can't do much to a team damage-wise. Eventually, after all of your stalling with this duo, you'll come out victorious, as your foe kept getting walled, or you'll lose, with Skarm and Bliss being your last two pokemon. Imo, even walls should be able to attack in case of being your last poke. For example, Regice has 100 base SAtk. Sure, Skarm and Bliss can attack, but they aren't gonna get KOs. Skarm is great, imo. It Spikes, PHazes, and walls physical attacks while it's at it. And there's not much else that can even try to P.Wall as effectively. Bliss just prolongs the battle. It can't do much to help your team, as all it does really is sit there and suck up Sp.atks. It's not dealing any substantial damage in return (unlike some Sp.walls I can think of *coughRegiceandSnorlaxcough*), and although it clerics, other stuff can do that, too.

OK. I'll admit. I exaggurated a lot of the points in this. I tend to that do that sometimes. But it's true that there are a lot of counters out, and with my experience with Bliss, it doesn't do anything but take up space.

I was actually commenting on the fact that Husk1442 said you had a SkarmBliss weakness. It's really just Bliss that I think is overrated, not Skarm, actually, thus making SkarmBliss overrated, as well, in my eyes. Your team, I can tell, is meant to stall, etc. Switch to junk that can handle stuff a lot and occasionally deal a large amount of damage with Hera, bringing Cune out after they lose their (P)Hazer to sweep the team. etc. etc. Keeping them switching into the Spikes if they want a chance of taking down one of your pokes, causing great pain over time. I actually think it works with your style of team. But in a team meant more to be 'used,' Blissey has never seemed to benefit it from my experience.

Ham September 2nd, 2005 2:46 PM

you've never used a stall team have you, A.coz? Bliss is pretty freakin' needed. there is NOT a better special wall, and there isn't much that bells better.

leafgreen386 September 2nd, 2005 6:28 PM

You obviously didn't read my post. If you had even read the first two sentences you'd know that the last paragraph was all that mattered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by me
I was actually commenting on the fact that Husk1442 said you had a SkarmBliss weakness. It's really just Bliss that I think is overrated, not Skarm, actually, thus making SkarmBliss overrated, as well, in my eyes. Your team, I can tell, is meant to stall, etc. Switch to junk that can handle stuff a lot and occasionally deal a large amount of damage with Hera, bringing Cune out after they lose their (P)Hazer to sweep the team. etc. etc. Keeping them switching into the Spikes if they want a chance of taking down one of your pokes, causing great pain over time. I actually think it works with your style of team. But in a team meant more to be 'used,' Blissey has never seemed to benefit it from my experience.

The rest of the post was just a rant about how I think SkarmBliss is overrated that I had typed up before I realized what you were actually saying and didn't feel like deleting it all.


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