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Simon August 31st, 2005 6:09 PM

Another NB Team...Butcher It
 
Jolteon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

Either this or CBMence...

Magneton @ Salac Berry
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 106 HP / 152 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 156 Spd / 150 SAtk / 204 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Barrier
- Confuse Ray
- Mirror Coat
- Surf

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 126 Def / 252 Spd / 132 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Taunt
- Wish

Dugtrio (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rock Slide
- Sludge Bomb

Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 190 HP / 68 Spd / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Ice demon August 31st, 2005 8:56 PM

Keep jolteon [with baton pass or t-wave over wish] and replace magneton with CBmence.

Taunting umbreon needs only 222Sp so dumb the rest into hp as well as some of those SpDef EVs.Replace substitute with mean look.


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Dugtrio (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rock Slide
- Sludge Bomb

No Hp ice.Replace with HP bug. @choice band

leafgreen386 August 31st, 2005 9:01 PM

Well, at first glance, nothing really sticks out except the Dugtrio.

It needs Adamant to even have a chance at 2HKOing Bliss. Give it a CB, as well. You've weakened that thing so much, as it is now. And I'm afraid I don't get the point of HP:Ice on it.

- You have two Wishpassers, which imo is unneccesary.

- No Hazer.

- Swampert weak.

- If Skarm gets down even 1 layer of Spikes, Magneton is useless for the rest of the battle anyway, so to me it seems like a bit of a waste having Endure on that set.

- Chaosbreon kinda loses the point without Mean Look

Squarewalker August 31st, 2005 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon
Jolteon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 Def / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Baton Pass

Wish on Jolteon is kinda lol, imo. It needs hp grass btw, because your team has a huge swampert weakness.

Either this or CBMence...

Magneton @ Salac Berry
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 106 HP / 152 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Endure
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Enduresalacmaggy is kinda lol again, 'cause people usually switch their dugtrio out to something that can take a hp grass/ice, and you'll have to switch it out or let it die. (Also, Dugtrios with about 40 SDef EVs may NOT be KO-ed, and, well that's the purpose of Endure + Salac, to force Duggy to switch out or get OHKO-ed.) Metal Sound > Endure, Modest > Timid, Leftovers > Salac. It needs 188 Spd EVs and put the rest in defense.

Tentacruel (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 156 Spd / 150 SAtk / 204 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Barrier
- Confuse Ray
- Mirror Coat
- Surf

I don't really see any point of having this on your team. Your team doesn't have a tank that can take some damage in general (Umbreon can take a few hits, but it isn't really a wall or a tank. -_-), so maybe replace this with one then.

Umbreon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 126 Def / 252 Spd / 132 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Taunt
- Wish

It doesn't need max speed. Subpasser... you have Jolteon with Sub, so Mean Look > Sub on this. Needs more hp EVs btw.

Dugtrio (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rock Slide
- Sludge Bomb

lol, good luck KO-ing anything without CB. @Choice Band, HP Bug > HP Ice, Aerial Ace > Sludge Bomb, imo. Adamant, because otherwise it can't 2hko Bliss.

Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 190 HP / 68 Spd / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
What's with all these ice attacks? Crunch > Ice Beam. Subpunchboltbeaming t-tar might work, but it isn't THAT great imo.
What's with 190 hp and max SAtk? I guess you wanted to mean max hp to be able to make 101 Subs, and 190 SAtk, right?


I don't really see any point in having maggy on this team. I mean, jolteon and t-tar won't get walled by skarm, so replace it with a CBmence. Tentacruel and Umbreon doesn't really seem to fit this team either, but meh.

Well, I hope this will help.

§ Bleep § September 1st, 2005 8:55 AM

jolteon needs bp, definately.

loling @ hp ice on duggy

husk1442 September 4th, 2005 5:53 PM

you need a physical attacker to take advantage of the fact you have a magneton

you have a boah and a magneton which is pointless since they both achieve the same task of beating skarm bliss

I suggest a CB'er to take the place of one of the wishers and T-Tar


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