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Water Pokemon Master September 3rd, 2005 12:08 PM

Legendary Dog Ball Percentages
 
Any mathematical geniuses out there in Pokemon Land?
I, like everyone else here, is trying to complete my pokedex.
To further my completion, I need to capture the Legendary Dogs. No duh.
Well, on my Fire Red version, I have already captured a Suicine (SP) with a Masterball I traded over from my Ruby version.
Now on my Leaf Green Version, I need a Entei, but I don't have a Masterball.
Master ball works 100% of the time right? That means that pokeballs, great balls, ultra balls, and all the other balls must have percentages too.
Does anyone know the chances of catching an Entei with poke/great/ultra or any other ball(Heavy Ball comes to mind)?
I'd greatly appreciate all the info I can get. Thank you.

jc_rcw September 3rd, 2005 12:11 PM

ok I don't know much about percentages but its very hard to catch it in one turn.Its like catching [email protected] in your first turn.

Water Pokemon Master September 3rd, 2005 12:16 PM

Oh...>smacks head<. I should definintly rephrase that, thank you.
What are the odds if Entei is:
Down to minimun frozen
Down to minimun paralized
Down to minimun burned/poisoned
Down to minimum asleep.
;;^_^;; sorry about that.

Naito September 3rd, 2005 12:22 PM

I'm not sure when it comes to percentages, but after trying to carch Entei and Suicune using different pokeballs, i have found out the odds of catching the pokemon with a certain pokemon.However, if you experiment with catching Suicune and Entei with these pokeballs, you may get different results.

Pokeball: 1.0
Great Ball: 2.5
Ultra Ball: 3.0
Net Ball (Suicune only, or it would have the same chance as a Great Ball or Ultra Ball): 3.5
Heavy Ball (Counts for Entei only, otherwise it would have the same chance as a Great Ball or Ultra Ball): 3.5
Master Ball: 5.0

As you can see, the best pokeballs to use against them are usually Net Balls, and Heavy Balls if you don't have a Master Ball.I tested these on Silver, Emerald, and Leaf Green.I might test them again on Emerald and see if the results change.

Water Pokemon Master September 3rd, 2005 12:25 PM

Sweet! Thanks! Soo...where might I find a Heavy Ball?

Naito September 3rd, 2005 12:28 PM

Heavy Balls aren't in 3rd generation, but you may be able to cheat for one if there is a code.Heavy Balls are currently only found in G/S/C, but i think before, someone posted codes to get Heavy Balls.

Water Pokemon Master September 3rd, 2005 12:30 PM

Oh, I see. Well...what about Timer balls? I could easily send over a billion trading from my ruby or sapphire version.
Do you know Timer ball percentages? How much does it go up by every turn? Does it keep going until it stops at 100%?

Naito September 3rd, 2005 12:34 PM

Timer Balls i'm not sure about, however they might go up by 2 or 5 percent per turn.

jc_rcw September 3rd, 2005 12:37 PM

yeah but timer balls only work after some time into the battle it won't work well in short battles like with the legendary dogs

Water Pokemon Master September 3rd, 2005 12:42 PM

True. Entei DOES no roar and escapes.
Only 2 to 5 percent? (long drips of anime tears rolls down cheek)
And it only lasts for a while? What, does it only go up to 30 and then decides to let fate decide?
that's some real tough luck.

Lil' Schu September 3rd, 2005 12:44 PM

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yeah but timer balls only work after some time into the battle it won't work well in short battles like with the legendary dogs
You could do Mean Look, then if it doesn't do roar, switch out to a pokemon with the ability that doesn't let it be blown away...I think it's Sturdy? Meh. You could try it.

Ash_Pokemaster September 3rd, 2005 12:44 PM

Well, there's an unlietable strategie IMO :p
Just make a good Pokemon with attacks like Mean Look. Wait for 20 turns for example and hurt it a little, make it sleep or sth. After 15-20 turns give it a timer ball. It will work such like Master Ball after so many turns ;) Try it out, it may work =)

Crazy Frogitist September 3rd, 2005 6:11 PM

to me after 20 turns i chuck a timer ball at it and it always catch the pkmn i wanted.
4 me if u want to catch entei chuck a ultra ball 4 no reason cause u might actually catch it by luck

Simon September 3rd, 2005 6:49 PM

The Timer Ball becomes 100% more effective than a Poke Ball every 10 turns. After 30 turns, it stops becoming more effective. By then it'll be four times as effective as a Poke Ball.

As for the percentages...I have no idea.

Water Pokemon Master September 3rd, 2005 7:30 PM

4 times as powerful as a pokeball huh? So...isn't Ultraball 3 times as effective as a pokeball? Cuz you know, poke, great, ultra? <shrug> still, thanks for the info simon, 30 turns....so all I need is a tank with a lot of PP?
Mean Look and sturdy...My Gengar knows Mean Look and my Lairon knows Sturdy! I'll buy 6 Timer Balls, put them on zangooses and wingulls, send them over to Fire Red, and go for it
What do you guys think?

Crazy Frogitist September 3rd, 2005 7:33 PM

um u can buy timer balls in fr/lg!! and u mean the ability sturdy don't u cause there is no such move as sturdy, wait a sec i memorise something and forgot again don't worry about it

Edit i remember it ultra ball is not 3 times better than poke ball!! try on magickarps sometimes poke ball is better rate than ultra!! ultra ball is good at high lv. yeap that's it

Ice demon September 3rd, 2005 8:41 PM

ok this is how it works K
1. something with a fast sleep....Hynosis sucks with accuracy so i recommend either jynx [can mean look which works well considering thats what comes next], jumpluff or a high level breelom with spore [100% accuracy is sweet]
2. if u didn't have jynx, switch to a mean looker.
3. now if u really don't want it too wake up and roar u away, switch too something with the ability SOUNDPROOF [not sturdy].Such pokes are - Mr mime [he has hynosis if...], electrode or exploud.Cradily and its suction cup ability also works...And ends up being best against entei with STAB'ed rockslides and resistance too most of his attacks.
4. start chucking ultra balls...After awhile try timer balls.


That strategy nearly always works.Have fun.Be save.Don't speed.

Water Pokemon Master September 4th, 2005 12:21 PM

Ice Demon you're a genius! I TOTALLY forgot about the move soundproof! That makes all the sense! I also have a Breloom with Spore(and is at level 35 so the repel trick will work), and my exploud in Sapphire, who's really strong. I also have packed with me my Misdrevus, capable of Mean Look.
So I buy 99 ultraballs (just to make sure, of course) and start chucking.
But...what happens when Entei runs out of PP and has to use struggle..and then eventually kills himself?

Ice demon September 4th, 2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Water Pokemon Master
Ice Demon you're a genius! I TOTALLY forgot about the move soundproof! That makes all the sense! I also have a Breloom with Spore(and is at level 35 so the repel trick will work), and my exploud in Sapphire, who's really strong. I also have packed with me my Misdrevus, capable of Mean Look.
So I buy 99 ultraballs (just to make sure, of course) and start chucking.
But...what happens when Entei runs out of PP and has to use struggle..and then eventually kills himself?


I am aren't I...[wheres my fan club ppl!].>i kid<

well hence u make sure he's always asleep [so when he wakes up switch back to ur sleeper]...The pt of mean look and soundproof is in the event that he does wake up...I mean the first time u see him, i'm sure u'll just want to get it over with so taking all precautions is cool.

Iron Spriter Josh September 4th, 2005 7:28 PM

ok, ill try my best to put the terms with my experience of over 280+ pokemon in my national:
poke ball: 20%
Great ball: [doubles] 40%
Ultra ball: 50%
Master ball: 100%
Dive ball: [underwater]: 47%
Net ball: [on water or bug]: 60%
Repeat ball: [on previously caught pokemon: up to 60%
Luxury ball: 40%
Premier ball: 20%
Nest ball: [on weaker pokemon with a huge diff.] 90%
[on pokemon with lil diff] 23%
Safari ball: 40% chance,
the ones with like on x or x or so, if oyu dont use it with that type, the chances may be only up to 30%
=\ this is all a guess from my exp

.::Tsunami::. September 4th, 2005 7:30 PM

cool now i know percentages cool

Iron Spriter Josh September 4th, 2005 7:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny-Chan
cool now i know percentages cool

well, they'e not down to the exact number, so sorry, and thats for catching basic pokemon, not legends, for legends, they go down to .035% from what i see

Water Pokemon Master September 4th, 2005 9:15 PM

Awesome, thanks for the info ISJ!

Crazy Frogitist September 5th, 2005 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Spriter Josh
ok, ill try my best to put the terms with my experience of over 280+ pokemon in my national:
poke ball: 20%
Great ball: [doubles] 40%
Ultra ball: 50%
Master ball: 100%
Dive ball: [underwater]: 47%
Net ball: [on water or bug]: 60%
Repeat ball: [on previously caught pokemon: up to 60%
Luxury ball: 40%
Premier ball: 20%
Nest ball: [on weaker pokemon with a huge diff.] 90%
[on pokemon with lil diff] 23%
Safari ball: 40% chance,
the ones with like on x or x or so, if oyu dont use it with that type, the chances may be only up to 30%
=\ this is all a guess from my exp

from my exp premier ball works better on legends that's why i caught my 3 legend birds groudon with it (i got premier ball from ruby) so i'll say its 35% on catching legends, great ball and ultra ball r different depends on what pkmn u uses on like legends i think it will take away 20% (by the way poke ball sometimes will have more shakes than ultra ball at legends above 60 but won't catch it but u can catch regis or latias or latios or 3 legend birds) health and status r also VERY important i think make enemie into red health adds 5% and status adds by 5% as well from my exp(on legends only!) ( if u want to know on wild pkmn i'll check it 4 u,PM me ONLY)

Water Pokemon Master September 5th, 2005 10:44 PM

Wow, I didn't expect anyone suggesting a Premier Ball...
And its' 35% affectable on catching legendaries?
And then 45% when their status is changed and they're in the red health?
I'm not trying to be rude, just cautious and not gullible.
Can anyone back this statement up?


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