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CardsOfTheHeart September 8th, 2005 7:15 AM

RMT (can't think of a better title; sorry)
 
now that i know a lot more about competitive battling, i want to try to construct a better team than the one i had before.

let's see...
ingredients for my good team:

-1 special sponge
Blissey (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 Hp / 252 Def / 46 SpDef
Bold (+Def, -Atk) Nature
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

-1 physical wall
Steelix (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 244 Hp / 60 Def / 200 Atk / 6 Spd (outrun Snorlax)
Impish (+Def, -SpAtk) Nature
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Explosion
Toxic

-1 speed freak
Ninjask (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Speed Boost
DVs: 31 Hp / 31 Atk / 31 Def / 30 Spd / 30 SpAtk / 30 SpDef
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk) Nature
HP Flying
Silver Wind
Substitute
Swords Dance

-1 physical sweeper
Salamence (F) @ CB
Trait: Intimidate
DVs: same as Ninjask
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Hp
Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk) Nature
HP Flying
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Fire Blast

-1 special sweeper
Alakazam (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 200 Hp / 176 Spd / 134 SpAtk
Timid (+Spd, -Atk) Nature
Psychic
Fire Punch
Substitute
Encore

and...

-1 "can i have fries with that McGar?"
Gengar (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 82 SpAtk
Lonely (+Atk, -Def) Nature
Substitute
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

leafgreen386 September 8th, 2005 12:24 PM

Blissey is a horrible lead. You have so many better options and you're not even using them. It should have 212 HP / 252 Def / 46 SDef. You can pull some from SDef if you want to outspeed other Blissey, but imo it's pointless, as a Blissey vs. Blissey stall war will never end. Just tie with your opponent if you're both left with Blissey.

Roar>Toxic or Explosion on Steelix. Not sure about that SDef. You may want some Atk so you can actually hurt stuff.

That Ninjask is weird imo. It's main use is to BP. But if what you're trying to do is surprise people with a sweeper, then... meh. It can work if it manages to get off an SD or two. Btw, for both Jask and Mence use 30/30/30/31/30/30.

On Salamence, it only needs enough for 320 Spd at the absolute most if you're using Jolly. A lot of people prefer Adamant though, as it KOs some stuff that Jolly can't.

Lonely on Gengar.

I see you're doing this on NB. For future referrence use File -> Export to Text, and just select all, copy, and paste. That way you don't have to write it all out.

CardsOfTheHeart September 9th, 2005 5:04 AM

actually, i WANT to do this on NB, but i don't have a PC of my own to install it on, yet. i can't use it on the public computers that i use.

of course blissey is a horrible lead. i was just listing my pokes. i'd rather start with ninjask or McGar. eh, of course give blissey 704 hp, not 701. jeez how did i miss that?

roar w/ no spikes? you're not serious, are you? but it does need more Atk. i could try screech to screw up some curselax, though.

and i'd like to have someone fast such as ninjask on my team. better to have a sweeping ninjask than an exploding electrode IMO.

and what's with those DVs? taking a little health for a little more speed than necessary; WTF?!!!

mence loves to OHKO things. there really is no reason to make it jolly.

lonely gengar; duh!

Ice demon September 9th, 2005 1:02 PM

Quote:

roar w/ no spikes? you're not serious, are you? but it does need more Atk. i could try screech to screw up some curselax, though.

Roar works fine over toxic.But isn't necessary.



Quote:

and i'd like to have someone fast such as ninjask on my team. better to have a sweeping ninjask than an exploding electrode IMO.
Straight from smogon...
It works..The CB version is cooler tho..[shadow ball,HP ground,aerial ace,silver wind].

leafgreen386 September 10th, 2005 10:10 AM

Quote:

and what's with those DVs? taking a little health for a little more speed than necessary; WTF?!!!
For Ninjask you need the extra Spd in case of a Ninjask vs. Ninjask situation (although then you'd also want Jolly...), but just ignore my comment about Mence. I wasn't thinking when I posted that.

I was telling you to use Roar on Steelix because you have no PHazer or Hazer already. What happens when your foe starts to stat up?

CardsOfTheHeart September 12th, 2005 4:58 AM

perhaps my ninjask should go jolly. if my ninjask faces a jolly ninjask with max. Atk and Spd, it'll OHKO it with hp flying before i can put up my sub. even with max. Def on mine with min. Hp it could still possibly OHKO it. it would definitely stop my sub from being put up.

but, then again, in that case i could either switch to blissey and it'll inflict 25% damage or switch to my steelix and it'll inflict 5% damage.

and, yes, DD or CM pokes could pose a problem. i'll try roar over toxic when i get the chance. that is, when i get my own computer... or IF i can get my own computer... (gulp)

orangekows September 12th, 2005 2:48 PM

A. Coz told me he was tripping hard when he posted that.

Quote:

now that i know a lot more about competitive battling, i want to try to construct a better team than the one i had before.

let's see...
ingredients for my good team:

-1 special sponge
Blissey (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 Hp / 252 Def / 46 SpDef
Bold (+Def, -Atk) Nature
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

don't start with this.

-1 physical wall
Steelix (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Hp / 116 Atk / 136 SpDef / 6 Spd (outrun Snorlax)
Impish (+Def, -SpAtk) Nature
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Explosion
Toxic

i like roar>toxic. and enough for 352 hp/500 def/rest in atk. sdef isn't gonna be doing much for you

-1 speed freak
Ninjask (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Speed Boost
DVs: 31 Hp / 31 Atk / 31 Def / 30 Spd / 30 SpAtk / 30 SpDef
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Def
Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk) Nature
HP Flying
Silver Wind
Substitute
Swords Dance

i dont like ninkjask without mr. mime. use a special sweeper imo

-1 physical sweeper
Salamence (F) @ CB
Trait: Intimidate
DVs: same as Ninjask
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Hp
Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk) Nature
HP Flying
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Fire Blast

i would use DDMence if you arent good at predicting and start with this. enough for 336 hp/405 atk/270 spd. give it 40 sdef so it can survive ice beams from non STAB'ed 200 satk. rest in def

-1 special sweeper
Alakazam (M) @ Lefties
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 200 Hp / 176 Spd / 134 SpAtk
Timid (+Spd, -Atk) Nature
Psychic
Fire Punch
Substitute
Encore

and...

i like calm mind/psychic/fire punch/recover. 252 satk/252 spd/4 hp and lum berry is awesome

-1 "can i have fries with that McGar?"
Gengar (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 82 SpAtk
Lonely (+Atk, -Def) Nature
Substitute
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

i would use sludge bomb>shadow ball so you can touch ice beam blissey. but then again shadow ball+focus punch has no resistances

leafgreen386 September 12th, 2005 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekows
A. Coz told me he was tripping hard when he posted that.

Uh, you don't need to try to cover for me. I don't even use that term. >_>

Though I did completely space there. I mean, I was the one who was arguing DDMence needs 116 EVs not 112 in the moveset help topic.

orangekows September 12th, 2005 4:59 PM

remember you told me you ate an eighth of shrooms

leafgreen386 September 12th, 2005 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekows
remember you told me you ate an eighth of shrooms

Uh... what? I never told you that. And furthermore, I never did.

orangekows September 13th, 2005 12:45 PM

why do you have to lie? :(

leafgreen386 September 14th, 2005 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangekows
why do you have to lie? :(

lol Look who's talking.

So can we get back to the team rating now?

orangekows September 14th, 2005 1:21 PM

fine, i was lying :(

100th post yay!

and imo steelix should have 352 hp/500 def. rest in atk


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