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Agent9 September 10th, 2005 10:58 AM

Variety is the Spice of Life
 
~Monsters~

Yomi Ship
Shadow Ghoul
Spear Cretin
Left Arm Of The Forbidden One
Bazoo The Soul Eater
Little-Winguard
Penguin Soldier
Right Arm Of The Forbidden One
Drillago
Right Leg Of The Forbidden One
Man-Eater-bug
Summoned Skull
Sangan
Reflect Bounder
Giant Orc
Exodia The Forbidden One
Left Leg Of The Forbidden One
Witch Of the Black Forest
Spirit Reaper
~Magic~

Tribute To The Doomed
Swords Of Revealing Light
Card Destruction
Heavy Storm
Change of Heart
Reload
Monster Reborn
Horn Of The Unicorn
~Traps~

A Hero Emerges x2
Trap Jammer
Needle Ceiling
Call Of The Haunted
Complusory Evacuation device
Shift
Backup Soldier
A Rival Appears
Gravity Bind
Conscription
Skull Invitation
Dust Tornado

Please rate. Swap any cards. If you swap please tell me what to swap for and which booster that card is in.

As said in title. My deck is a variety. Please recomend cards and tell me to tak out some cards and replace them with some magic cards

Zaikiro September 10th, 2005 3:28 PM

Well what kind of deck do you want. Because this really has no theme. I suggest Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity to start with.

Agent9 September 10th, 2005 3:49 PM

It doesn't really focus on anything. It's just a random deck and whatever gets to the hand, you need to use some way. So it's basicly throwing someone off

Frostweaver September 10th, 2005 4:17 PM

or basically a deck that will *never* work because it's even slower than mechanical hound deck...

Really, we can't fix anything unless you give us a theme to work with. We don't know what you want. A generic deck does not and cannot ever exist in YGO, so please give us a theme (and a "good deck" or "a winning deck" is not a theme.)

Agent9 September 10th, 2005 4:22 PM

Oky. Since most cards in my deck focus around Exodia. How about an exodia deck

Zaikiro September 10th, 2005 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent9
Oky. Since most cards in my deck focus around Exodia. How about an exodia deck

Since you are using Traditional Format. Then I suggest this first.
Get all 5 pieces first.
Get 2 Gearfreid the Iron Knight
One Butter Fly Dager Elna
2 Magic Royal Library
Backup Soldier.

That is only the beginning. Try to get those cards first for a exodixa deck.

Agent9 September 10th, 2005 5:12 PM

Well I got the exodia pieces. and back up soildier. all i need is the res. what packs are the cards in?

Zaikiro September 10th, 2005 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent9
Well I got the exodia pieces. and back up soildier. all i need is the res. what packs are the cards in?

Get 2 Gearfreid the Iron Knight(Pharoh Serveant)(Joey Structure Deck)(Dark Revelation)
One Butter Fly Dager Elna(Dark Crsis)(Dark Revelation)
2 Magic Royal Library(Magican Force)(Dark Revelation)(Yugi Evoulution Strcutre Deck)

Frostweaver September 10th, 2005 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaikiro
Get 2 Gearfreid the Iron Knight(Pharoh Serveant)(Joey Structure Deck)(Dark Revelation)
One Butter Fly Dager Elna(Dark Crsis)(Dark Revelation)
2 Magic Royal Library(Magican Force)(Dark Revelation)(Yugi Evoulution Strcutre Deck)

banned LONG time ago ^______^

If banned cards are allow, there are many other OTK out there that's even better...

Zaikiro September 10th, 2005 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
banned LONG time ago ^______^

If banned cards are allow, there are many other OTK out there that's even better...

By the looks of his deck. He duels Traditional.
If Avdenced, as a subusitute. 3 Toon Table of Concents and 3 Gather your Mind.

Frostweaver September 10th, 2005 6:36 PM

Toon Table of Content is a poor way to deck thin... Nimble Momonga please?

I wish that I can make an exodia deck right now, but unfortunately I don't remember what' the name of a zombie card with lackluster stats that draws a card every time it's flipped, but it can flip itself face down every turn as well...

Zaikiro September 10th, 2005 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver
Toon Table of Content is a poor way to deck thin... Nimble Momonga please?

I wish that I can make an exodia deck right now, but unfortunately I don't remember what' the name of a zombie card with lackluster stats that draws a card every time it's flipped, but it can flip itself face down every turn as well...

That is a better Idea. But Toon Table is still good.

Was the card this? http://www.pokeshop.com/modules/Card_Gallery/pics/57/DesLacooda.jpg

Forci Stikane September 11th, 2005 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent9
~Monsters~

Yomi Ship
Shadow Ghoul
Spear Cretin
Left Arm Of The Forbidden One
Bazoo The Soul Eater
Little-Winguard
Penguin Soldier
Right Arm Of The Forbidden One
Drillago
Right Leg Of The Forbidden One
Man-Eater-bug
Summoned Skull
Sangan
Reflect Bounder
Giant Orc
Exodia The Forbidden One
Left Leg Of The Forbidden One
Witch Of the Black Forest
Spirit Reaper
~Magic~

Tribute To The Doomed
Swords Of Revealing Light
Card Destruction
Heavy Storm
Change of Heart
Reload
Monster Reborn
Horn Of The Unicorn
~Traps~

A Hero Emerges x2
Trap Jammer
Needle Ceiling
Call Of The Haunted
Complusory Evacuation device
Shift
Backup Soldier
A Rival Appears
Gravity Bind
Conscription
Skull Invitation
Dust Tornado

Please rate. Swap any cards. If you swap please tell me what to swap for and which booster that card is in.

As said in title. My deck is a variety. Please recomend cards and tell me to tak out some cards and replace them with some magic cards


Bravo for actually having only 40 cards...

...Well, to kick off:

-All of these:

Bazoo The Soul Eater
Shadow Ghoul
Drillago
Man-Eater-bug
Giant Orc
Card Destruction
Horn Of The Unicorn
Tribute to the Doomed
A Hero Emerges x2
Conscription
A Rival Appears
Shift
Skull Invitation
Needle Ceiling

...All right. Now that we've got rid of all of that, it's time to build back up:

+ Pot of Greed (LOB, Structure Decks, DB1)
+ Graceful Charity (Pegasus Starter Deck, DB2)
+ Painful Choice (MRL/SRL)
+2 Toon Cannon Soldier (DB2)
+2 Toon Table of Contents (DB2)
+2 Scapegoat (Joey Structure Deck)
+2 Emissary of the Afterlife (AST)
+1 Cumpulsory Evacuation Device (IOC, Structure Decks)
+1 Gravity Bind (PSV (I think...), newest Structure Decks)
+1 Dark Hole (LOB, Starter Decks)
+1 Reload (IOC, Structure Decks)

That'll give you more stalling power and more drawing power all at once to get Exodia faster and safer.

What's left, you ask? Here you go:

Monsters: 18
Tribute:
Summoned Skull

Non-tribute:
Yomi Ship
2x Toon Cannon Soldier
2x Emissary of the Afterlife
Spear Cretin
Left Arm Of The Forbidden One
Right Arm Of The Forbidden One
Right Leg Of The Forbidden One
Exodia The Forbidden One
Left Leg Of The Forbidden One
Little-Winguard
Penguin Soldier
Sangan
Reflect Bounder
Witch Of the Black Forest
Spirit Reaper

Spell:14
Swords Of Revealing Light
Heavy Storm
Change of Heart
2x Reload
Monster Reborn
Pot of Greed
Graceful Charity
Painful Choice
2x Toon Table of Contents
2x Scapegoat
Dark Hole

Trap: 8
Trap Jammer
Call Of The Haunted
2x Complusory Evacuation device
Backup Soldier
2x Gravity Bind
Dust Tornado

Enjoy!

MegaDitto September 12th, 2005 1:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichapokemr
Bravo for actually having only 40 cards...

...Well, to kick off:

-All of these:

Bazoo The Soul Eater
Shadow Ghoul
Drillago
Man-Eater-bug
Giant Orc
Card Destruction
Horn Of The Unicorn
Tribute to the Doomed
A Hero Emerges x2
Conscription
A Rival Appears
Shift
Skull Invitation
Needle Ceiling

...All right. Now that we've got rid of all of that, it's time to build back up:

+ Pot of Greed (LOB, Structure Decks, DB1)
+ Graceful Charity (Pegasus Starter Deck, DB2)
+ Painful Choice (MRL/SRL)
+2 Toon Cannon Soldier (DB2)
+2 Toon Table of Contents (DB2)
+2 Scapegoat (Joey Structure Deck)
+2 Emissary of the Afterlife (AST)
+1 Cumpulsory Evacuation Device (IOC, Structure Decks)
+1 Gravity Bind (PSV (I think...), newest Structure Decks)
+1 Dark Hole (LOB, Starter Decks)
+1 Reload (IOC, Structure Decks)

That'll give you more stalling power and more drawing power all at once to get Exodia faster and safer.

What's left, you ask? Here you go:

Monsters: 18
Tribute:
Summoned Skull

Non-tribute:
Yomi Ship
2x Toon Cannon Soldier
2x Emissary of the Afterlife
Spear Cretin
Left Arm Of The Forbidden One
Right Arm Of The Forbidden One
Right Leg Of The Forbidden One
Exodia The Forbidden One
Left Leg Of The Forbidden One
Little-Winguard
Penguin Soldier
Sangan
Reflect Bounder
Witch Of the Black Forest
Spirit Reaper

Spell:14
Swords Of Revealing Light
Heavy Storm
Change of Heart
2x Reload
Monster Reborn
Pot of Greed
Graceful Charity
Painful Choice
2x Toon Table of Contents
2x Scapegoat
Dark Hole

Trap: 8
Trap Jammer
Call Of The Haunted
2x Complusory Evacuation device
Backup Soldier
2x Gravity Bind
Dust Tornado

Enjoy!

No Level Limit Aera B?

I think he wants it traditional. He did not say he duels avdenced. No Raigeki or Dagger.

Zaikiro September 12th, 2005 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichapokemr
Monsters: 18
Tribute:
Summoned Skull(Airknight)

Non-tribute:
Yomi Ship
2x Toon Cannon Soldier(-2 Iron Blacksmith Kotiesu)
2x Emissary of the Afterlife
Spear Cretin(-1 for Mystical Space Typhoon)
Left Arm Of The Forbidden One
Right Arm Of The Forbidden One
Right Leg Of The Forbidden One
Exodia The Forbidden One
Left Leg Of The Forbidden One
Little-Winguard(Magican of Faith)
Penguin Soldier(-1 For Morping Jar)
Sangan
Reflect Bounder
Witch Of the Black Forest
Spirit Reaper

Spell:14
Swords Of Revealing Light
Heavy Storm
Change of Heart
2x Reload(-1 Butter Fly Dagger Elna and Raigeki)
Monster Reborn
Pot of Greed
Graceful Charity
Painful Choice
2x Toon Table of Contents(-2 Level Limit Aera B)
2x Scapegoat
Dark Hole

Trap: 8
Trap Jammer(-1 for another Backup Soldier)
Call Of The Haunted
2x Complusory Evacuation device
Backup Soldier
2x Gravity Bind
Dust Tornado(Torrential Tribute)

Enjoy!

Fixes in quote. In Magenta. I think it could be better that way.

Forci Stikane September 13th, 2005 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaikiro
Fixes in quote. In Magenta. I think it could be better that way.

Airknight: Geez...I forgot about that. Thanks.
Kotetsu & Area B (ATTN Mizu-kun): The point of that combo is to deck-thin using Table (which can search ITSELF, remember) to get Toon Cannon Soldier--a monster to tribute Sangan/Witch/Emissary to hit your opponent and at the same time get an Exodia piece. Koetsu wouldn't help much in here and Area B could help, but Airknight becomes useless and consider that sometimes you WANT your opponent to attack in an Exodia deck (face-down Witch with 4 pieces in hand--it's happened).
MST-not needed. Period.
MoF-Forgot TWO...great.
Elma/Raigeki-Raigeki isn't needed in here, since Exodia is DEFENSE, which means wiping out your opponent's monsters is pointless. Elma doesn't have any combos in here, either, so it is useless. Reload can actually help out quite a bit--chain to Card Destruction or get lousy hand with Exodia's head--so it should stay.
Torrential-...Fair enough.
Backup Soldier-True, Trap jammer should go, but 2 Backups just isn't needed. Remember, Jinzo is rampant nowadays.

Zaikiro September 13th, 2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichapokemr
Airknight: Geez...I forgot about that. Thanks.
Kotetsu & Area B (ATTN Mizu-kun): The point of that combo is to deck-thin using Table (which can search ITSELF, remember) to get Toon Cannon Soldier--a monster to tribute Sangan/Witch/Emissary to hit your opponent and at the same time get an Exodia piece. Koetsu wouldn't help much in here and Area B could help, but Airknight becomes useless and consider that sometimes you WANT your opponent to attack in an Exodia deck (face-down Witch with 4 pieces in hand--it's happened).
MST-not needed. Period.
MoF-Forgot TWO...great.
Elma/Raigeki-Raigeki isn't needed in here, since Exodia is DEFENSE, which means wiping out your opponent's monsters is pointless. Elma doesn't have any combos in here, either, so it is useless. Reload can actually help out quite a bit--chain to Card Destruction or get lousy hand with Exodia's head--so it should stay.
Torrential-...Fair enough.
Backup Soldier-True, Trap jammer should go, but 2 Backups just isn't needed. Remember, Jinzo is rampant nowadays.

If Exodxia is Defense. What is the point of Summoned Skull?

Butterfly Dagger Elna + Gearfreid the Iron knight + Magical Royal Library= Endless draws.

Level Limit Aera B stalls like Gravity Bond and Gravity Bind is a trap,Jinzo is rampant nowadays like you said.

The extra Backup soldier is helpful if the pieces are discarded.

Kotesu an Aera B has no combo. Read above of what I said about Area B.

Kotesu gets Elna so it's helpful.

I now see your point of Toon Cannon Soldier. Mystical Space Typoon is a mabye and it is helpful.

Card Desruction is good with Backup Soldier. So is Monster Recrincation since the head has the effect.

Agent9 September 13th, 2005 5:35 PM

Um...I guess summoned skull could be used for a wall, or summoned and tribute sangan or witch and use the effect to get the exodia pieces

Frostweaver September 13th, 2005 5:49 PM

dont' forget Painful Choice to purposely discard Exodia pieces so you can use backup soldier and draw 3 pieces at once!

Forci Stikane September 14th, 2005 6:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaikiro
If Exodxia is Defense. What is the point of Summoned Skull?

Butterfly Dagger Elna + Gearfreid the Iron knight + Magical Royal Library= Endless draws.

Level Limit Aera B stalls like Gravity Bond and Gravity Bind is a trap,Jinzo is rampant nowadays like you said.

The extra Backup soldier is helpful if the pieces are discarded.

Kotesu an Aera B has no combo. Read above of what I said about Area B.

Kotesu gets Elna so it's helpful.

I now see your point of Toon Cannon Soldier. Mystical Space Typoon is a mabye and it is helpful.

Card Desruction is good with Backup Soldier. So is Monster Recrincation since the head has the effect.


I AGREED with you on the Summoned Skull thing.

I know the combo, but Gearfried and Library aren't in here and there isn't really anything to take out for them.

Jinzo would kill the deck anyway, so Gravity Bind it is (it's also faster to unleash being a trap).

2 Backup Soldiers could help, but it also might not, and with Exodia you need all the speed you can get, which that second Backup Soldier might take away from...

I never said Kotetsu and Area B had a combo...I was referring ot the TTOC + Toon Cannon Soldier combo.

Putting a monster in for just one really useful card is pointless when there are better choices out there.

Sure, MST is helpful, but this deck doesn't need it.

Reload is better than Card Destruction in here in that you don't actually lose any cards. Backup Soldier mainly goes with Painful Choice.

Zaikiro September 14th, 2005 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichapokemr
I AGREED with you on the Summoned Skull thing.

I know the combo, but Gearfried and Library aren't in here and there isn't really anything to take out for them.

Jinzo would kill the deck anyway, so Gravity Bind it is (it's also faster to unleash being a trap).

2 Backup Soldiers could help, but it also might not, and with Exodia you need all the speed you can get, which that second Backup Soldier might take away from...

I never said Kotetsu and Area B had a combo...I was referring ot the TTOC + Toon Cannon Soldier combo.

Putting a monster in for just one really useful card is pointless when there are better choices out there.

Sure, MST is helpful, but this deck doesn't need it.

Reload is better than Card Destruction in here in that you don't actually lose any cards. Backup Soldier mainly goes with Painful Choice.

Well sorry about the skull thing ><

And frostweaver made a good point with Backup Soldier. But its Agent9 choice. There are a lot of things to take out for the combo. But I agree with everything else. Exepct the addition of Level Limit.

Frostweaver September 14th, 2005 10:08 PM

All decks need MST. They may not need Heavy Storm, but you definitely need MST.

You just NEED Mystical Space Typhoon to destroy some magic cards out there. Destroying opponent traps/magic (especially field card) is a great way of defense and it definitely slows down your opponent's deck by a lot. MST is a staple.

Don't forget combinations of using Cannon Soldier to blast other searchers too. Mystic Tomato x 3 + Sangan = deck thin by 5 with the Exodia head.

(ALWAYS get Exodia head first, then get the limbs. The limbs can get taken by Backup Soldier but not the head. The head is only searched by Sangan and nothing else excluding bounce-combos. If you got a penguin soldier in your hand, you can always rely on a searcher to bring out the pieces on to the field, then penguin to bounce them to your hand.)


*wants a hug*

Agent9 September 15th, 2005 6:35 AM

tch *hugs* Thanks, I completely forgot about mystic tomatoe .

Zaikiro September 15th, 2005 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostweaver

Don't forget combinations of using Cannon Soldier to blast other searchers too. Mystic Tomato x 3 + Sangan = deck thin by 5 with the Exodia head.

*wants a hug*

Thank you for agreeing with me about MST.

And if I rebember. Does'nt Mystic Tomato have to be destroyed in "Battle" for it's effect to activate and the effect activates from the hand not the firld. Unless Complusory Evacuation device is used for the pieces.

And youre welcome Agent9. Don't try too hard trying to get the cards.

Frostweaver September 15th, 2005 11:28 AM

It has to be sent to the graveyard from the field. It doesn't have to be from battle, but it has to be set on the field first (so you can blast it with cannon soldier for a chain of searches)

*wants a hug*

Zaikiro September 15th, 2005 11:52 AM

Last time I saw it. It said battle. Actuaully I have one.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/my1stop2shop_1859_396681912

Keyword: Result of battle.

Forci Stikane September 15th, 2005 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaikiro
Last time I saw it. It said battle. Actuaully I have one.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/my1stop2shop_1859_396681912

Keyword: Result of battle.

Zaikiro:1, frostweaver:0.

MST might be useful, but there are other cards that are more important in Exodia decks...like Painful Choice & Graceful Charity. But if you think it's that necessary, then fine.

-1 Trap Jammer
+1 MST

Frostweaver September 15th, 2005 9:29 PM

Mixed up Sangan's text with Tomato... sorry for that ;_;

*wants a hug*


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