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Espy Psyche October 1st, 2005 9:45 AM

Luster Purge
 
Luster Purge, Latios's sig move, is slightly weaker than Psychic. But this may be a reason to use it. Latios is a special sweeper with only special attacks. How do you kill an SDer then? Psychic lowers SD 10% of the time. But before you have signifigantly lowered Blissey's SD, you are dead. Is there a better way? Yes. Luster Purge, by the third hit, will be stronger than Psychic. Luster Purge kills your enemy's SD at a 50% rate, killing them 5x faster than Psychic. And before you tell me to just not use ubers of switch Latios out for an ATKer, assume you are down to your last Pokemon. And uber-haters are stupid.
[email protected] Dew
Psychic/Luster Purge
D Claw
T/Bolt
Surf
And don't comment on the moveset. Just tell me the best move out of those five to use.

husk1442 October 1st, 2005 3:29 PM

recover and calm mind would let you win against everything not only blissey


but, yes I have often used luster purge over psychic during uber battles, because if I don't know my opponents team I can't out predict them, and latios has decent speed to the luster purge damage + the SpDef down + the SE move I have generally results in a K.O.

Espy Psyche October 4th, 2005 11:07 AM

I actually thought i would be flamed without mercy for this post. Anyway, thank you for actually agreeing with me.

Synchronize October 5th, 2005 5:33 AM

lol i was thinking about flaming for a sec. Nothing harsh, just sarcasm. But husk's post says everything

Destinylord October 5th, 2005 6:24 AM

y psychic/luster purge in uberbattle, almost every uber is resistant to psychic
[email protected] souldew
tbolt
icebeam
recover
cm

Synchronize October 5th, 2005 6:55 AM

Makes me wish Bulk Up would actually matter in the Uber Metagame </random>

Cloud Strife October 5th, 2005 7:07 AM

The best moveset I've used for latios so far has to be
[email protected] dew
pychic
dragon claw
recover
calm mind

But, luster purge is starting to sound more like latios's sig move, so this moveset might be better then the one above

[email protected] dew
luster purge
dragon claw
recover
calm mind

And ya the 10% chance of pychic lowering happening is low! When i used my latios, pychic NEVER lowered the oppennents stat, so its either unlucky for me that pychic never lowered there stat or what your saying is true. :D :snea:

Synchronize October 5th, 2005 7:23 AM

Boltbeaming is generally better, as there are few that actually resist it. As for Dragon Claw, I give it credit on [email protected] for STAB and high sp. atk, but I gave my rant about it in another post that i might have to edit again. As for Luster Purge, anything that stays in against one of its psychic attacks is either stupid, resistant, immune, or can just take on [email protected] anyway. So I'd find Psychic much more useful.


btw, Master, love ur sig.

Cloud Strife October 5th, 2005 7:47 AM

Thanks I'm a big umbreon fan too!
LET UMBREON ROCK YOUR SOUL! :snea:

Synchronize October 6th, 2005 7:25 AM

Umbreon = 1337. I neeed to rant about this
*** Flies of to make a new thread

Ham October 6th, 2005 12:46 PM

it's funny becuase you all THINK that a proper Latios doesn't OHKO with Psychic anyway after all the CMs you use, and if it still doesn't OHKO, it'll do well over 50% so that lowering Sp.def is a ****ing waste.

Synchronize October 7th, 2005 7:17 AM

true. It also OHKOs with CM Boltbeaming iirc. Besides, in an uber metagame, I've seen Twave blissey put into use, and it completely ****s Calm Minding ubers. Just paralyze, maybe throw in a seismic toss or two, switch out to a Shadow Baller (CB Deoxys-f prolly, just watch out when it attacks on the switch).

Ham October 7th, 2005 5:16 PM

Metal Sound doesn't do **** to blissey, how would 1 stage lowering do any ****?

Synchronize October 10th, 2005 2:57 PM

Metal Sound lowers Sharply(two stages)

Ham October 10th, 2005 4:15 PM

it still doesn't do **** to blissey. I've seen it happen with my own eyes. the Tunderbolt did like 15% before and 20-25% after.

Synchronize October 11th, 2005 7:29 AM

Well then something was wrong. I've used up to 2 Metal sounds from Maggie onto Blissey before, and tbolt did at least 40-50%

Ham October 11th, 2005 3:10 PM

aboslute max Sp.atk magneton Thunderbolt on standard Blissey after 2 Metal Sounds:

Minimum Damage 36%
Average Damage 39%
Maximum Damage 42%

then bliss would kill you with the 3rd seismic toss it was allowed and safely softboiled the damage away a bit later.

not to mention max Sp.attack magneton is stupid anyway. it doesn't have the speed and defenses to back up the Sp.atk.

Squarewalker October 12th, 2005 4:25 AM

Luster Purge isn't that great, IMO, since nearly everything resists it in the uber metagame, and well, that's where Latios should only be used.
Also, Luster Purge has a low PP and most things have pressure in the uber metagame.

Anyway, I'd suggest this set for Latios:

[email protected] Dew
Nature: Modest / Timid
EVs: Enough speed for outspeeding max speed Kyogre and Groudon; 252 sp.attack and the rest should go in hp.
Calm Mind
Dragon Claw
Recover
Safeguard / HP Fire

Safeguard stops t-wave Blissey, but HP Fire can also work, since Metagross is quite common in the uber metagame also. I'd rather recommend Safeguard on it though, 'cuz CM+Recover+Safeguard always beats Blissey 1 on 1.

I hope this helps.

Loyal Arcanine October 12th, 2005 5:53 AM

5 PP stabs Luster Purge/Mist Ball.

Synchronize October 12th, 2005 2:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ham
aboslute max Sp.atk magneton Thunderbolt on standard Blissey after 2 Metal Sounds:

Minimum Damage 36%
Average Damage 39%
Maximum Damage 42%

then bliss would kill you with the 3rd seismic toss it was allowed and safely softboiled the damage away a bit later.

not to mention max Sp.attack magneton is stupid anyway. it doesn't have the speed and defenses to back up the Sp.atk.


It may not be the best at it, but it does its job at stuff like resisting boltbeam(to an extent) and making for an easy skarm KO. I'm not saying that's a valid reason to use it on every team, but it's not like it completely sucks like Delcatty or something

Golden Groudon October 13th, 2005 3:54 PM

And 5 pp is just phucking retarded.

Ham October 13th, 2005 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmbreonShadow
It may not be the best at it, but it does its job at stuff like resisting boltbeam(to an extent) and making for an easy skarm KO. I'm not saying that's a valid reason to use it on every team, but it's not like it completely sucks like Delcatty or something

...say what?

I never said magneton sucks.


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