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ahhh look what i have created a discussion monster/monsters!
ok so now that weve had enough discussion, mabey we should get back to the MOVIE a bit more, and you know cut down on the beliefs...o well what do i care it was fun while it lasted! |
But the Movie is about spirituality, and I think everyone at PC needs to Discover Spirituality again....
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There's a difference between being against homosexuality because of your moral code and homophobia...homosexuality is simply against the moral code of the Bible. Nothing in the Bible teaches anyone to fear them or hate them...it tells us to treat all people equally. "Hate the sin, not the sinner." You can disagree with someone's actions and still get along with a person...I do it all the time. There are people who do things that I don't really agree with but I find them to be kind overall. The Bible hasn't had anything added to it since around 90 A.D. around there, and that was the book of Revelations. People have made sure to keep it the way it originally was, because it's such a huge responsibility to translate something like that perfectly. There's nothing in the Bible that has ever taught us to hate, but only to respect. |
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I'm glad I can help your fears like that...all you need is faith and baptism, and then everything'll be a-ok ^_^
In my opinion, gays don't hurt people, but (and I'm not trying to sound callous) sin is sin...we could ask these same questions about liars, thieves, and all those people, but this subject comes up and is more controversial than other things *shrugs* |
the only reason i dont like gay marrige is because of the influence they hold...
i mean one day theyre gonna want to have a kid, and they cant naturaly so they go and adopt one...and then they cant help but to influence them, or keep their secret for long, thus greatly impacting the child... |
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yes i know that, but dont you think that their parents homosexuality will at all stun the child? just look at it in a psychological aspect...i would be shocked if my parents were homosexuals and i probably would then think it was okay to act like that and thus myslef be like them, and doesnt it spread aids =/
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yea but i mean even if they said that id see my parents like that and automaticaly assume that it was an okay, if not the right way, to have a mate...pluse it spreads aids =/
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We're getting a bit off-topic here >_<;; Let's just settle this now before it spirals downward like most debates of this nature do...sorry for saying this, I just don't want to see a good topic get messed up ^^;;
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okay what ever you say, i feel that all there was to be expressed was expressed and, like relgion, will never be settled because its based on personal beleifs and morals, etc...anywas BACK ON TOPIC!
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Okay I don`t think this movie is still in theaters..
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I'm not sure, I saw it on Tinseltown last saturday. O.o; Who knows? Maybe it went to the dollar theaters? ^^
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Well, i just cant get worked up about seeing this. I dont really want to see Jesus die, but I think I need to see this movie.
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hm..when does it go to DVD & VHS?
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Hello all you christians, jews, whatever ya R I'm no religion. I'm nothing at all. Personally, I think there are good stuff and bad stuff about the religion. 1 is promoting a bad movie, plus wars sometimes are about religions and conversions (mostly a long time ago in christianity and jewish religions) and also not being open to new ideas like evolution, big bang, etc. The good thing is it really can help you with your problems, and can help you throught life. No, religion is NOT a bad thing, of course not. It has pros and cons like everything in the world. One of my best friends is a christian and helps at church a lot and is deeply religiosly involved. She wanted to see the R-rated movie, like it was her duty or something (she is in 7th grade). It is her duty to be sin free, not see a half true R-rated movie. This religion stuff is confusing, it promotes goodness, but ends up promoting some bad stuff too. Now I am so definity NOT trying to offend anyone okay. Like I was saying, my friend is like 100% religious. I mean, half the wars in history was over religion. It has pros and cons, that is all I'm saying. Really sorry, if I sound mean. Really sorry.
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In the middle ages, Christianity went through a phase where they forgot some of the teachings of the bible...today we are actually very tolerant, and I, for one, regret the crusades and conquests and stake-burnings. The masses were uninformed on the truths of their own religion, and began to make up things. We are reformed now and regret any violence that our ancestors carried out. They had forgotten that the way to minister is through kindness, not violence. But that was then, this is now, and we're different. Some people still act like we're ignorant conquistadors still, though, which enrages me.
Might I add that not believing in some scientific theories does not make us bad. It is simply a choice of beliefs all people must make. I, personally, believe in adaptive evolution (changes within a single species to make it adapt to an environment), but not macroevolution...science and religion go very well together. And about the "duty to see the movie" issue, I doubt people feel a duty to see it, but are strongly compelled. Your friend was very excited and desired to see the movie, and if she actually felt it was her duty then there's nothing wrong with that. This movie can only help peoples' lives, eh? And the R-rating doesn't make it bad. They couldn't make Jesus's suffering realistic and not get an R-rating, and people who have seen it know that the suffering was meant to touch, not disgust, people. They did what they had to. I don't think you sound offensive at all, and have stated your opinion quite civilly, like most other people in this topic, and I'm glad it's stayed civil this long. Thanks for your input! ~Chairman Kaga |
You can belive what you want but my friend thinks animals are made to serve humans. I don't really agree at all. That sounds like we are the most supeior and can kill animals whenever we want, not just for food but for sport. That is wrong to me. I don't like how people treat chickens for meat. They lock them in a cage that is smaller then they are and don't let them out. They give them lots of food and kill them. I think they should be nice and let them run around, let them live a good life, then kill them. That would be nicer to chickens, but still no eliminating eating them. Same with cows, except for the cages.
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We can't fight the meat industry..sure it's brutal but I try to not think about it.
And on the record, I don't think we're supposed to be cruel to animals...we should take advantage of what they can do for us, but in a responsible way. I still don't think that one thinking that humans are the masters of animals is extremeism though...but this has next to nothing to do with the topic at hand, now doesn't it? |
It has to do with christianity. I like cows and chickens and I don't want them to die!!! I think animals are equal as human. So what if they don't think the same way we do, they still have feelings. My dog has feelings. Chickens and cows have feelings. So do all the animals. It is not fair to be mean to animals just because we are smarter or bigger. We are like big bullies who the animals are slaves.
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Ya but you have to think that as human we have to survive so we do have to kill it's something that we can not avoid. But the thing is that the killing must be kept in moderration and that pleasure may never come fromit.
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No, actually we can all be vegitarians. We kill enough animals when we destroy their habitat. Why do we have to kill more? We build over where they were first, that is pretty mean and selfish. And why do we have to eat chickens? How about monkeys? Lizards? A crow? We can eat any animal, so why do we pick on chickens and cows?
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Anyways, I heard Mel Gibson didn't like that people rated it R. And I agree, I mean the movie doesn't have $ex or anything.. *dies* |
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This is a moot point. This has nothing to do with the motion picture we are supposed to be discussing in this topic, by the way. This is a tangent that's just going to erupt into a pointless debate over things two parties cannot agree on. I suggest we leave this where it is now and continue on the topic at hand. |
Okay, okay. See what I mean about the offending? And no, I don't mean christianity=creulness to animals. I mean like, people kill the rain forest, people kill the desert with atomic bombs, people in GENRAL are crueal not just christians. And um sorry for sounding mean and sorry for being off topic.
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No problem...misunderstandings tend to snowball like this >_<
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I heard that somewhere in the Bible it said fishes were meant to be food for humans. @@; Didn't Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden have all the animals to eat? Oo;
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Fishes can be food 4 sharks and bears and dolphins and orca and herons and a million more animals. Why does it say specifically people? I never read any of the bible, unless it was some quote in my social studies book.
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More technically, we are stewards of the earth...in the Bible it says animals were provided to man...we are meant to coexist, but man does have some privileges over other creatures.
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cartoon, "Didn't Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden have all the animals to eat?" the bible says that some animals (eg. pigs and rabbits) are unclean and shouldn't be eaten (somewhere in genesis, i forget wear) but, it was a cool movie, and i love jesus! there should be a pokemon/bible combination club... maybe i should start it... 150 pokemon, 150 psalms... maybe it means something?! let's see... my favorite psalm is 34... that means... nidoking (in accordance with nationaldex) hmm... that's not so bad...
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I like your idea, if would attract so much people! ^.^ *dies* |
you mean the club? ya, i'm working on it... our logo's gonna be that little electric sheep dude. get it? huh huh? do ya?
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Shelz don't revive old topics...
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