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Duke R March 19th, 2004 1:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CaRtOON
I don't care about what you think, that person left for his/her beliefs. If they wanna go, let em go. You can't just insult someone for the things they believe in. You wouldn't like it if I said something insulting to the things you believe in. If we lost a member, no biggie, just let that person go. We lose members, and we can't stop it. So please no insulting..

I'm insulting??? I just said that what I think is that I believe that any religion is over pokémon, and I haven't like what that one did... Excuse me, but now you're being rude... I think... I didn't said that the one is better or worse than anyone...

Greed March 19th, 2004 8:19 AM

Okay, okay, fine. Maybe I misunderstood you. Let's please end this silly argument, alright, I admit its my fault. So errr, let's get back on topic. I thought you were saying that stuff to be mean to other people ()o.o;

*dies*

pkmn-source March 19th, 2004 3:13 PM

Jews killed Jesus Christ. But it's Jesus destiny to burden all the sins of mankind. The movie is not actually racist. Mel Gibson is just trying to show to the world how did Jesus really got killed and who killed him. Jews are against the movie because maybe a lot of people will blame the Jews that they're the one who caused Jesus's death which is actually true.

Oh well... I think Mel Gibson's film is great and I don't see anything wrong about it.

Why did Hitler killed thousand of Jews without doin anythin? Isn't it like the like the life of Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ got killed without doing anything. Well, that's sad :(

Greed March 19th, 2004 5:53 PM

Who knows the real truth? Hmm.. I really don't like to blame anyone for Jesus' death. I'd be insulting them ;-; But hey, who really knows?

But not all Jews are against it, tho. There was this rabbi talking in this radio show, and he was furious his people were boycotting the movie for such foolishness. He said he sees nothing wrong with it. Neither do I. ^^

pkmn-source March 19th, 2004 6:54 PM

the real truth is in the bible.

Greed March 19th, 2004 7:05 PM

The Bible? Then maybe I should read it more, my mum always forces me to read the bible or she'll lecture me that God will send me to Heck if I'm not good. =P I just can't understand it ;-;

*dies*

Duke R March 20th, 2004 12:14 AM

The Bible? I don't believe the truth is in The Bible... The truth is in History books... Mel Gibson just made a movie talking about the truth, the real truth, Gibson's truth... If he has money and all to make a movie, leave he and he's truth... I think... And if the truth is in The Bible,,, we must admit that the movie is TOTALLY based on it... I think...

piyoko March 20th, 2004 5:57 AM

duuuuuuuuuude.my mom won't let me see the passion because she says "it's too gruesome,and will give you nightmares" i haven't had nightmares from movies sice i was like,five O-0

duke,your post confuzzeled me :confused:

pkmn-source March 20th, 2004 10:14 AM

If you don't believe the actual events in the movie really happen, it's up to you. Don't you think the death of million Jews is just a KARMA to them for asking to kill Jesus in the past? That's what I think. But Jews are cool, I don't know why Hitler killed all Jews :(


Well the movie has the combination of History and Hollywood.


Mel Gibson didn't spend much money on the Film. I think it's around 1-2 million dollars for the movie.

Greed March 20th, 2004 11:07 AM

Actually, Mel Gibson invested 30, million dollars on The Passion of the Christ. And like Piyoko said, Dauke's post confused me @@;;

Well, some people really believe the truth is in the Bible. I'm not sure myself --;;

*dies*

Chairman Kaga March 20th, 2004 1:04 PM

Karma comes from Hinduism, not Christianity ;P God would not allow millions of Jews to be slaughtered at the hands of Hitler as a vengeance. He has his reasons for everything, but none of them are ever malevolent. It is and shall always be a mystery. Of course the Jews haven’t deserved any of the anti-Semitism they’ve suffered over the years, but still...all this is beside the point. I think that asking who killed Jesus is irrelevant to the point of the movie...the movie is about Jesus dying for the sins of the world, and this bickering is detracting from that point.

About the point of truth lying in the Bible, I personally believe that it is a good guide on how to life one’s life, but in the end it depends on the opinion of the individual person. But I think we’re going off on too many tangents here...and again, let’s keep it civil, ok ^^;;

Duke R March 20th, 2004 3:18 PM

Ok. But I don't speak English... I just said that you do what you wanna do... You can see the movie and see what Gibson think 'bout the true. Believe or not believe, that's the question...

shep April 1st, 2004 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CaRtOON
The Bible? Then maybe I should read it more, my mum always forces me to read the bible or she'll lecture me that God will send me to Heck if I'm not good. =P I just can't understand it ;-;

*dies*

I am sorry for posting so late but I havnt been around much to check out all the other threads than Pokemon Dimension. Cartoon as a christian I also struggle with continually reading my bible. Your mother telling you your going to **** isnt a great way to provoke bible study. I suggest a NIV study bible like this:
here
The NIV version of the bible is very easy to read. This particular bible I have, it has a very very easy to follow reading plan for what to read everyday and has sections for most of the chapters of each book and explains what is going on. It has a great index to look up topics like "Sex" "homosexuality" "murder" and a great section on important people to know. This is a great bible and I hope you pick it up or a similar one. A devotional is also something useful to pick up. Hope I could help! :classic:

Duke R April 2nd, 2004 12:23 AM

shep, you're Yankee.
No Yankee ones can tell something useful'bout religion, 'coz since you (Yankees) burn your parents tell you what you have to be and believe. 'Bout "sex", "homossexuality" and "murder" (I don't know what the last means) it's not something "WHAT!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE!!! OH, HORRIFYING!!!" that's an option of theirselves... ...
...
This PIV must be better than the "Capitalist-Lie-Book" (Bible)... ... Excuse me if Yankee is offensive ... I don't speak English ... ... GOOD SIG PIYOKO! ...

TeamRocket April 2nd, 2004 5:16 AM

This is my straight opinion:
The Jews didn't place Jesus on the cross
The Romans didn't place Jesus on the cross
The Disciples didn't place Jesus on the cross
HIS LOVE FOR US PLACED HIM ON THE CROSS
He would rather die than live without us - his children

Greed April 2nd, 2004 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shep
I am sorry for posting so late but I havnt been around much to check out all the other threads than Pokemon Dimension. Cartoon as a christian I also struggle with continually reading my bible. Your mother telling you your going to **** isnt a great way to provoke bible study. I suggest a NIV study bible like this:
here
The NIV version of the bible is very easy to read. This particular bible I have, it has a very very easy to follow reading plan for what to read everyday and has sections for most of the chapters of each book and explains what is going on. It has a great index to look up topics like "Sex" "homosexuality" "murder" and a great section on important people to know. This is a great bible and I hope you pick it up or a similar one. A devotional is also something useful to pick up. Hope I could help! :classic:

Wow, thanks for the advice =D I just checked out this other book that explains the Bible and its really interesting. It explained so many things I couldn't understand. I'll check it out, shep. Thanx for the advice =3

Anyways, in latest news, I have recently found out "Dawn of the Dead" has actually beaten Passion's record. It sold more than the Passion could, and that just pisses me off.. Christianity is one of the biggest religions in the US, I'm surprised to know that so many Christians rather see senseless violence than know how a brave man suffered for us..

Chairman Kaga April 2nd, 2004 3:05 PM

Actually, The Passion of the Christ is going to beat Dawn of the Dead by hundreds of millions of dollars...Dawn of the Dead only beat Passion of the Christ in weekend box-office sales. I think TPOTC might go back to number one around Easter though.

Greed April 2nd, 2004 3:58 PM

Hmm, maybe you're right. Actually, didja know that the Passion of the Christ is still in the USA? Soon, the movie will premier around the world. Dang, Mr. Gibson is gonna be a billionaire ^-^

Also, I just heard a Priest died in Brazil.. I think. I dunno, but another person died. I can see why, the movie's very touching ;-;

Teara April 2nd, 2004 4:03 PM

Yup! I herd a girl had a sezure from watching it. It'z gory but if you think you're ready you zhould ztill zee it.

Greed April 2nd, 2004 4:31 PM

Those poor peeps who died. ;-; Honestly, its a strong emotional movie. When I saw it, I could swear I felt my heart starting to slow down O.o; Sure, I know it sounds weird, but it made me so sad ;-;

Chairman Kaga April 2nd, 2004 4:41 PM

I'm not surprised some people died from seeing it...the shock and horror could cause heart attacks I suppose...anyone remember the wave of horrible flashbacks (and likely deaths even) that WWII vets had when they went to watch Saving Private Ryan in theaters? That movie was intense, somewhat like the Passion of the Christ...

But as teara sorta said, it's a very rare occurance and that's no reason not go to see a movie..only if you have some serious heart condition or something...any big excitement or shock can trigger cardiac arrest, actually o_o

Greed April 2nd, 2004 4:47 PM

Yep, just like a rollercoaster except it ain't for fun. Sensible people should take precautions, because they can get too excited or anything. Those poor dudes..

I never saw Saving Private Ryans, there are too many WWWII movies out there, that I taken disinterest in them =P

shep April 2nd, 2004 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke R
shep, you're Yankee.
No Yankee ones can tell something useful'bout religion, 'coz since you (Yankees) burn your parents tell you what you have to be and believe. 'Bout "sex", "homossexuality" and "murder" (I don't know what the last means) it's not something "WHAT!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE!!! OH, HORRIFYING!!!" that's an option of theirselves... ...
...
This PIV must be better than the "Capitalist-Lie-Book" (Bible)... ... Excuse me if Yankee is offensive ... I don't speak English ... ... GOOD SIG PIYOKO! ...

Listen here child. Yes I am from America but that does not mean I have no useful opinions on religion. How narrowminded of you to assume that I have blindly followed a religion. You do not know me, my background, what I have been through in life. That post was directed to Cartoon, I don't know why you think it was even directed to you, those are topics that are easily catergorized in this bible I was reccomending. I was giving examples on how easy it was to look up topics on specific things. The "NIV" bible is a different translation in the bible that is easier for this generation to comprehend. It stands for the "New Internation Version." I don't even know why I am adressing your post because I find people that do not respect other beleives to be a waste of time. I don't go around calling the holy book of Koran stupid, or any of the teachings of Buddha ridiculous. Learn some respect, and respect other cultures. Do not be so narrow minded.

Chairman Kaga April 2nd, 2004 8:30 PM

Exactly...I didn't even see that post, but now that I do, I just don't get it...this isn't the place to sling your intolerance and hatred around. Shep covered it, but ...

Tu odio es innecesario... ¡El frase <<yanqui>> y tus manchas de nuestro religión son insultante--no es amable, así no lo haces, por favor!

If you can't understand everything in english, hopefully you can understand a bit of jumbled spanish...

This topic is not a religious debate, it is the discussion of a movie. Please don't turn it into anything else. People on both sides are easily stirred up if people try to make it something it isn't. Now, if you don't mind, I don't want to see any more religious slurs in here. It's sickening and absolutely base.

Greed April 3rd, 2004 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke_R
shep, you're Yankee.
No Yankee ones can tell something useful'bout religion, 'coz since you (Yankees) burn your parents tell you what you have to be and believe. 'Bout "sex", "homossexuality" and "murder" (I don't know what the last means) it's not something "WHAT!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE!!! OH, HORRIFYING!!!" that's an option of theirselves... ...
...
This PIV must be better than the "Capitalist-Lie-Book" (Bible)... ... Excuse me if Yankee is offensive ... I don't speak English ... ... GOOD SIG PIYOKO! ...

I noticed it, but ignored it. I didn't want to make any trouble =P But since this is offending to people, yes, Duke, STOP IT RIGHT NOW!! If you don't, we'll just have to drag an mod to put your frigging bolts back in.. And besides, mods DO NOT like to be disturbed =P

So will ya quit it? I mean, if you hate it, keep it to yourself... =/ I don't wanna hear your hater stuff =P You don't see me insulting whatever the heck you are.. --;;

*dies*


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