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Mewtwo42 October 8th, 2007 11:37 AM

There are so many spoilers because Pipluper and others aren't caught up.
Oh, and I meant that I think that Sasuke's going to die at the very end of the series. I always thought that.
But, it's pure speculation.

.Aero October 8th, 2007 3:04 PM

Haha "Pipluper and the others" I guess I'm the most popular of the "others".

I'm just not able to download the stuff anymore, my dad is getting really mad at me.

~desu Saba~

Luиαrglοω October 8th, 2007 3:48 PM

Pfff, good for you~ xD

I don't see how not being able to download stuff keeps you from reading the manga~ :o

Mewtwo42 October 8th, 2007 3:49 PM

@Pipluper: You don't need to download. I'll PM you a site to read manga for FREE.(no downloads)
I said, Pipluper and the others because you were the only person that I knew of in this FC that isn't up to date. I know there's more people now though. Like Pink-tiger.

.Aero October 8th, 2007 4:08 PM

I havn't gotten a PM (and it's been a good 20 minutes)

Ichi-chan gave me a site, but it didn't work for me for some reason...that's my problem, nothing works on this computer cuz it's messed up and I hate it.

~desu Saba~

Ichikool October 8th, 2007 4:18 PM

Saba - Sometimes that site gets a lot of people. Just keep refreshing, desu. It works.

Luиαrglοω October 8th, 2007 5:54 PM

You should go here to read that manga. x3
As long as it's not NarutoFan.com... D:

Lucy Lu October 8th, 2007 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luиαrglοω (Post 2979491)
Why the spoilers? I'm sure everybody's caught up. o:

Also, there's no way Sasuke's gonna die. D: He's like, the 2nd most important character. More likely, Naruto shows up and saves his ass. xD
then Naruto drags him back to Konoha and and becomes Hokage and marries Sasuke~ 8D *shot*

@Lucy(woah, it is so weird calling somebody else that xD): The Sasuke Retreival Arc already happened, right? You mean the dub? o.o

Well this Saturday the arc will start. And yes the dub, and I think this is the best arc of Part One of Naruto. It is so great! ^^

And yeah there is no way Sasuke isn't going to die. No way, but you never know.

And I go to onemanga to read the manga. I used to download it but the place I used to go doesn't do that anymore. So I go to one that I don't need to worry about downloading. ^^

Lumine October 8th, 2007 6:16 PM

Sasuke wont die I can assure that, but Ive just got this funny feeling that Kakashi might just die...

Lucy Lu October 8th, 2007 6:32 PM

Nah, don't worry. Kakashi won't die either. I think the only person I think is going to die is...no I can't say it because I know it won't be true! I really don't want Jiraiya to die! What would Naruto feel when he finds out that Jiraiya died? Oh man...

Well let me show you guys some pictures. ^^

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2007/a3da8909vh4.th.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7598/group20209xw5.th.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2/501tc2.th.jpg

Mihael October 8th, 2007 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mewtwo42 (Post 2979553)
There are so many spoilers because Pipluper and others aren't caught up.
Oh, and I meant that I think that Sasuke's going to die at the very end of the series. I always thought that.
But, it's pure speculation.

I hope he finnally gets what he deserves.

MAJOR spoilers:
Spoiler:
He beat Deidara. Stupid plot getting in the way of Deidaras killing him.
And now he's attackin Itachi

Mewtwo42 October 9th, 2007 12:50 PM

He's attacking Itachi because Itachi killed the whole Uchiha clan. If you were Sasuke, wouldn't you be pretty mad? And the only reason he
Spoiler:
killed Diedara is because Diedara attacked Sasuke.
So in both instances, Sasuke was provoked.

Shadow Chaos October 9th, 2007 2:30 PM

Wait, I thought
Spoiler:
Deidera killed himself when he used his ultimate move, a massive selfdestruct!? Which he used only to kill Sasuke... and failed!

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ October 9th, 2007 2:52 PM

Quote:

He's attacking Itachi because Itachi killed the whole Uchiha clan. If you were Sasuke, wouldn't you be pretty mad


Yes I'll be very very mad, but why would Deidara want to kill Sasuke for?



:t354:TG

Ichikool October 9th, 2007 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Chaos (Post 2983784)
Wait, I thought
Spoiler:
Deidera killed himself when he used his ultimate move, a massive selfdestruct!? Which he used only to kill Sasuke... and failed!

Spoiler:
Yeah, that's true, desu. It sucks... Deidara was so great! ;-;


EDIT: Whoops... sorry, *Spoilers*

Lucy Lu October 15th, 2007 6:00 PM

Spoiler:
Yes Deidara was awesome! He shouldn't have killed himself. But he wanted to get Sasuke and that was the only way he could have done it.


Anyway, did anyone read Chapter 374?

I read some parts, but I didn't get to read the rest because the site I usually get it wasn't working. So I am going to try it again. And then I will put in what I thought here.

Lumine October 15th, 2007 7:39 PM

Spoiler:
So Yahiko died and Nagato used his body as his main substitute body..man thats sad, but Nagato became an emo and is in a state of denial XD

Shadow Chaos October 15th, 2007 10:01 PM

I too read the latest Chapter!!

Chapter 374:
Spoiler:
A cool Chapter indeed!! Pein's final summoning looks strange (if I recall, a Chimera-esque Giant Chameleon), but cool! But I loved the ending with Jiraiya and his latest Summoning!! LOL!!

Pikabloo October 16th, 2007 2:08 AM

The newest chapter was cool ^^

Chapter 374 spoilers:
Spoiler:
Luls, Nagato's chameleon summon thing is totally awesomes. It's just so... Rawr! :3

Crab/Lobster/Crustacean-ish summon, use Bubble Beam! -shot'd-

But seriously, that was what I was thinking when Nagato's first summon came out and sprayed those bubble things. I am so not funny...

I hope Jiraiya makes it out alive D: He's my favourite Sannin...

Rainfall October 16th, 2007 1:25 PM

Heh. Seems like lots of people have read chapter 374. I thought it was too short. >_< Even though it was the same number of pages, still seemed waaaay too short.

Ichikool October 16th, 2007 4:10 PM

PC is back!

Chapter 374 ... [this is what I posted about it on TalkNaruto]
Spoiler:
Argh. Pein is really getting on my nerves now, desu... he thinks he's God, heh? I don't like his theory about becoming an adult either, desu.
I kinda want to spit in his face. Wait no... puke in his face. ~ Ahahaa...haa... desu.
I Konan is cooler now. XD [Though she did nothing in this chapter.]
I had a weird feeling before that Jiraiya was going to be killed when confronting Pein. Still possible... ^^;

Rainfall October 16th, 2007 4:31 PM

Spoiler:
I was laughing so hard when I read about Pein's 'plan'. He says he's the God of Peace or whatever, and to ensure that peace and end war he plans to...<_< kill lots of people to make them so terrified of war that they'll stop. Some God of Peace. XD Kill everyone and everything will be peaceful!~ XD

At first when he said he'd end war I thought he meant he was going to kill EVERY human or something. Because...there can't be war if there are no people, right? XD


Talk of the new chapter. :3

Ichikool October 16th, 2007 4:36 PM

^ Same. XD

So... this week [which is moving by so slowly] is Shippuuden week! It's been three weeks since the last episode... though I wonder why I watch it now...? After the last one, seeing how badly the drawings were compared to the manga, it makes me sick almost, desu.

Rainfall October 16th, 2007 5:47 PM

What do you mean its been three weeks? I just watched episode 29-30 last Friday. (I haven't watched 31 yet, though...>_>

Unless the website I get them from is just behind or something. XD

onepiecefan22 October 17th, 2007 3:08 AM

HEY guys sorry about my mishap...but im back
also i dont watch shippuudin..but it did get bored and read the latest chapter...lol

akatsuki9 October 17th, 2007 12:35 PM

HELLO EVERBODY! im back


pain is aswome the akatsuki is aswome zetsu is aswome!

theyn better show zetsu fight soon

jirayia is going to get his butt hndled to him by pain

Chikara October 17th, 2007 12:41 PM

akatsuki: Odds are, they'll add in another side adventure before finally doing that XD

Ichikool October 17th, 2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkIllusion (Post 2985799)
What do you mean its been three weeks? I just watched episode 29-30 last Friday. (I haven't watched 31 yet, though...>_>

Ep 31 hasn't come out yet... XD It's coming out this Thursday, and it's been three weeks since that last episodes. [29-30]

Hiii guys! Desu.

akatsuki9 October 17th, 2007 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chikara³ (Post 2987073)
akatsuki: Odds are, they'll add in another side adventure before finally doing that XD

they better not..............ZEtsu wIll.........EaT U

onepiecefan22 October 17th, 2007 12:48 PM

XD.............well i want to know what happend to ..........oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh
cant remember her name!
well the person besides konan and pain..i want to know what happened to HER

akatsuki9 October 17th, 2007 12:49 PM

well the person besides konan and pain..i want to know what happened to HER[/QUOTE]

thats a dude and
Spoiler:
he died

onepiecefan22 October 17th, 2007 12:50 PM

THATS A DUDE!
well i know that but..HOW!

Ichikool October 17th, 2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onepiecefan22 (Post 2987102)
XD.............well i want to know what happend to ..........oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh
cant remember her name!
well the person besides konan and pain..i want to know what happened to HER

And who is this HER?
Yahiko was a guy...

akatsuki9 October 17th, 2007 12:56 PM

i wonder when there going back to learning about tobi
Spoiler:
A.K.A Madara Uchia

Ichikool October 17th, 2007 3:48 PM

*Rolls eyes* AGAIN, I will state:

Spoiler:
The translation said: "My powers, Uchiha Madara's powers,"
Which means he could be him, but by saying that, he could also mean that he's an Uchiha. Not necessarily Madara, because Madara is the founder of the Uchiha clan, desu. [And he is as old as dirt.]
Tobi never said that he is Madara.

Mihael October 17th, 2007 5:46 PM

Spoiler:
MAdara also, is japanese for eye, he could be saying he has theeye of the uchiha's

Shadow Chaos October 17th, 2007 8:32 PM

>>To Super Gullwing:
Spoiler:
I was laughing at the "[And he is as old as dirt.]" part of your sentence!!

And yes, it is true that Tobi say he has "My powers, Uchiha Madara's powers," which makes what you said possible!!


>>To Mihael:
Spoiler:
Well, according to Wiki, "Madara" means "mottles" or "speckles".

Ichikool October 18th, 2007 4:34 PM

^ Heehahaha. XD Yep!

Wow, this club kinda died today. New chapter comes out tomorrow! Actually it does tonight but it takes a while to translate. While it usually takes thirty minutes to translate an episode but.... *has been waiting thirty minutes for it to pop up on CR...*

Anywho! New topic ~ Do you have any Naruto stuffs? Like clothes, keychains, etc?

Cacttus October 18th, 2007 4:44 PM

Sorry if I didn't post here in a long time I was banned. -_-

Shadow Chaos October 18th, 2007 4:51 PM

I am also waiting for the latest Chapter as well!!

Topic: Do you have any Naruto stuffs? Like clothes, keychains, etc?
I have none... -_- Though I wish I had a headband, like the one Genma wears (the Proctor of the Chunnin Finals)... The only thing I have that is Naruto related are the Manga...

Ichikool October 18th, 2007 5:04 PM

Welcome back, Relllyms!

Mangas count, desu! I've given up buying it though. But I'll answer to my topic now.

MY STUFF Besides my unfinnished manga ~
~Grey Sasuke T-shirt
~Black Kakashi T-shirt
~Grey Rock Lee T-shirt [Kinda dissapeared...]
~Sandy Colored Gaara T-shirt [My favorite shirt ever <3]
~Sasuke wristband
~Deidara Anti-Rock Head band
[I used to have another Sasuke shirt, but I left it at my cousin's house once so I let her keep it. Cuz she's like, the biggest Sasuke lover out there. X3]
~Chibi Sasuke Keychain
~Two Naruto Keychains [they're like pics with chainie things on them]
~Gaara keychain [My cousin recently gave it to me and I love it. <3]
~Gaara Plushie [My cousin gave it to me last year for my birthday. My God.. I love it so much also. <33]
~Gaara clock [Two years ago when I was in the 8th grade, in tech class I made a chibi Gaara clock out of wood. It hangs on my wall and tells time. XD]
~Naruto 2007 calender [Lucky me! I hope there's a 2008 one! ^^]

onepiecefan22 October 18th, 2007 6:33 PM

well i have:
neji keychain
saskue keychain
sakue t-shirt
saskue wallet!
video games
saskue,neji,naruto,lee figurers
plastic headband
mini figures....kakashi,neji,kankuro,saskue
magazines
manga volume...5-10,11-21.....

kk it may seem like i LOVE saskue..but I DONT!
my fave character is NEJI!

Pikabloo October 18th, 2007 7:59 PM

Do you have any Naruto stuffs? Like clothes, keychains, etc?
I don't have much:
- Kakashi, Zabuza and Gaara keychains
- Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura, Kakashi and Iruka mini figure things
- A poster.

Hur hur. I still want Obito's goggles D:

onepiecefan22 October 19th, 2007 4:21 AM

dang i didnt relize how muchj stuff i had.....well i guess noy much..
compared to gullwing...XD

Ichikool October 19th, 2007 12:27 PM

XD
I also forgot about another shirt, it's dark blue and it has the five [important] village headbands, desu.

Shippuuden 31
Spoiler:
New opening! New Ending! i love them both! <3
Funny thing is, I was watching this episode at school. ^^
Sad for Chiyo and everyone's happy for Gaara. I was crying a little at the computer room ... ehehe. ^^o And Mutsuri and that other filler girl... *Breaks pen* I will kill them...!

Sai. He's coming....desu. AND SO IS TOBI, MAN! ~


EDIT: Chapter 375
Spoiler:
I have an oppinion on the Rin'nagan now, desu! After Pein summoned that chameleon, I noticed the eyes... looked like the Rin'nagan. And then so did all the other animals he summoned did too. Maybe the Rin'nagan's ability is to see different places at the same time? ^^;
And Jiraiya's strongest summon team... sounds interesting. X3 Though I kinda feel bad for Gamaken.. he's so down on himself.

Lucy Lu October 19th, 2007 9:00 PM

Do you have any Naruto stuffs? Like clothes, keychains, etc?

Well I don't have much at all. All I have is a plushie of Naruto. And he is the Time-Skip one. ^^ Yay, Naruto from Shippuuden! And that is all. :/ I am planning on getting more stuff. I hope I will.

Shippuuden 31

Spoiler:
I really loved it from the OP to the ED! It was very emotional. The music, animation, everything was so great! I was said when Chiyo died, but she did the right thing. She is a true shinobi. I admire she saved Gaara like that. And when Naruto and Gaara first seen each other...it was so great! They are more the same. ^^ I can't wait til the start of the new arc, it is going to be great! It was nice to see Sai, Yamato, and Sasuke in OP. That was cool. And the ED was cute. I loved Sai's drawings. XD And it was funny too.


And that is all I got to say about that. :3

.Aero October 20th, 2007 8:06 AM

KISAME'S IN CLASH OF NINJA REVOLUTION! (on the wii)

Sorry to change the subject so suddenly, but is anyone getting this game? Looks really fun, plus KISAME'S IN IT! *sings loudly and jumps up and down, grabs kittie and dances with her* XD I'm so excited!

~desu Saba~

onepiecefan22 October 20th, 2007 10:12 AM

o..........................................k?
well why wouldnt he be hes been in the show and manga for a while..i mean hes im my game(which came out in august)...so i dont see why he wouldnt be in a even newer one?

Ichikool October 20th, 2007 11:25 AM

Omigosh! Way for Kisame, desu! ^__^ I might get it soon. Like for Christmas! ~

Sub - 108 tonight. Next Saturday is the worst episode ever. And next Saturday happens to be a good day. Oreo's birthday.

22sa October 20th, 2007 11:29 AM

Ew... another video game I'll miss out on.

onepiecefan22 October 20th, 2007 1:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Gullwing (Post 2995887)
Omigosh! Way for Kisame, desu! ^__^ I might get it soon. Like for Christmas! ~

Sub - 108 tonight. Next Saturday is the worst episode ever. And next Saturday happens to be a good day. Oreo's birthday.

acyually there is goin to be episode 108 AND 109 sub today!
there starting this week of doin 2 episodes every saturday!
so next weekend can be more enjoyable for u gullwing!

Ichikool October 20th, 2007 1:25 PM

Really? Two new eps tonight? Cool. XD
[But that means crappy SasuSaku crap ep tonight, desu. --]
I forgot, does 110 have Oreo in it? I forgot. If he is in it, that'd be perfect. XD *Bangs head on keybored* gthd

onepiecefan22 October 20th, 2007 1:30 PM

OREO?..(orochimaru?)
well w/e.....but u will have 110 and 111 next week a freakinly totaly awsomely yah!
well im on volume 22...since the english books are at 21...and i have a japanese 221
so i know what happens already....but the show goes in a different order?

Ichikool October 20th, 2007 1:32 PM

Yeah, Oreo = Orochimaru. Sorry. XD
Anywho, I said it would be great if he was in an ep next week becuase next Saturday is his birthday, desu. [Oct 27] Ficking old... XD;

Wow... lucky...

onepiecefan22 October 20th, 2007 1:35 PM

well they should put him in it well let me think.......................................................................
WELL...hey MAY be...cause the part were he tells the sound four to go get saskue!
thats it though!

Ichikool October 20th, 2007 1:37 PM

Yep. He's in a lot of these episodes now, but I forgot how long he was in each ep. Blah. XD;

I hope America doesn't do those fillers. -*Kinda random*

Rainfall October 20th, 2007 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Gullwing (Post 2987083)
Ep 31 hasn't come out yet... XD It's coming out this Thursday, and it's been three weeks since that last episodes. [29-30]

Hiii guys! Desu.

Well, whatever. XD All I know is that episode 31 kind of
Spoiler:
sucked, because they spent the whole thing with Gaara coming back to life sitting in the same spot the entire time. XD I mean, I liked it, and I'm glad they finally brought Gaara back, but I didn't think they'd spend the whole time just doing that one things. XD I was honestly hoping to see Sai that episode, or even Tobi, just because I want to see how they look and sound. :3


Hey everyone!~ I need to keep up with the convo, eh? Anyways, honestly with the new chapters and stuff I'm getting a little bored with it for some reason. O_o Even if I am excited to see what happens, since the last part of this recent chapter really made me wonder. <_< >_>

Chibaymega12 October 20th, 2007 5:13 PM

I have a topic:
In an all out battle, who would win, Sasuke or Naruto. Why?
After that, who ever was your choice above, put them against Kakashi and Jaraiya.

Lumine October 20th, 2007 5:23 PM

Naruto cause hes the main character =P

Again still Naruto cause hes got 9tailed demon fox hax

Chibaymega12 October 20th, 2007 5:46 PM

well, i'm not saying when do, i saying if they were to, if no one was a main character, i'm talking right now, in a battle of skill, realisticly, i'm thinking sasuke at this point, seeing as we havn't seen the full extent of his powers, as we have of naruto

Rainfall October 20th, 2007 8:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 2997296)
I have a topic:
In an all out battle, who would win, Sasuke or Naruto. Why?
After that, who ever was your choice above, put them against Kakashi and Jaraiya.

Well, in a real fight Sasuke would likely win. The only reason Naruto was such a match for Sasuke in their final battle before he joined Orochimaru was because Naruto knew that Sasuke was joining the dark side and didn't want to lose him and whatever. But if they were fighting just to prove who was stronger, I believe Sasuke would win. After all, the nine-tails only usually aided him if he was in danger or angry, except for that time with he was fighting Neji. Naruto and Sasuke have fought enough in combat for us to know that he'd probably win. >_> Naruto would be a decent match, though, because of his Rasengan, but face it. At that point Naruto's Rasengan would only be able to hit if Sasuke wasn't moving much, like in the battle against Kabuto. Sasuke has a bigger advantage because of his Sharingan, and the fact that he probably knows more Jutsu.
In Shippudden though, I'm not sure.
Okay, Kakashi or Jiraiya, hm...Well, I think in a fair fight both Kakashi and Jiraiya would win, just because they have far more experience than Sasuke. It's unlikely that Sasuke could win against either of them in his younger state, but as far as his older self after joining Orochimaru he'd probably be able to win, just because he probably had lots of Forbidden Jutsu performed on him and steroids and such to make him stronger, you know? But this is just my opinion. XD

Wow. I sure can ramble. XD Anyways, I bought the new English Naruto movie today, just because I wanted to. The one where they're in the land of snow and whatever. >_> But I still like to watch it in Japanese more, so I normally set the movie to Japanese with english subtitles. XD

22sa October 21st, 2007 4:39 AM

I don't think Kakashi can defeat Shippuden Sasuke. It's funny if Kakashi's MS is already too much for Sasuke. :P Jiraiya can, definately. Naruto obviously can't.

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 8:09 AM

OKay, my turn to ramble
Oh yeah, have u read all the way to the current shippuden manga Shayla?

Okay, In a real battle, i'm not really sure who would win, letme lay this out. The battle would probably begin by Sasuke trying to take him out quickly, and not have it drawn out too long, by using a long chidori. Naruto, of course, would respawn by casting muliple shadow clones, while he prepares a rasenshuriken to take out the chidori before it gets out of hand. When sasuke takes out all of the clones, and more come, he decides not to waste chakra and with draws his sword, amplifying it by chidori current, and goes straight through them, once he's through, he realizes what naruto's goal is: to make a powerful jutsu, so he activates his sharingan to see what kind of jutsu it is while doing a regular chidori just in case, but when he realizes it's a wind style jutsu, it's too late, and it appears that naruto ripped sasuke's body to shreads to the point right before death, and right when naruto tries to pick him up to take him back to Konoha, he realizes it's a genjutsu, when sasuke appears behind him, thrusting a chidori through his back, but sense he's using the sharingan, he knows it's a clone, and he's ready, and when Naruto pops outta the blue sending another rasenshuriken at him, Sasuke spins around and fires an S ranked fire jutsu at him, but he realizes thats a clone too, and Naruto pops outta the ground and punches him right in the noggin, much like neji, but unfortunately, naruto is caought in the inferno of the clashing jutsu's, and right before his death, a shield of the nine tailed foxes chakra makes a shield around him and naruto goes straight to his 5 tailed form. When sasuke sees the power, he tries to take him in his curse seal two, but is not nearly enough, so goes to his curse seal 3, which is just a match for naruto, and somehow naruto has complete control of his state, so both of them go for just one attack to end it all: Naruto his Rasengan, and Sasuke his Chidori, when they clash, sasuke just misses and naruto his him straight on. They both fall to the ground and naruto retains his contienceness, and picks up Sasuke and goes home.
That would be how it would go in a manga, but in a real battle, i'd have to say sasuke hands down.
Now, Sasuke vs Kakashi, i'd think it'd be a pretty even match, until kakashi whips out his mangekyou sharingan on him.
Sasuke vs Jaraiya: Sasuke hands down, but if Kakashi and Jaraiya were to fight, Jaraiya would win, it's just the match, but over all, Jaraiya is the superior ninja, it's just the match.
Naruto vs Kakashi: If naruto can't beat sasuke, he cant beat kakashi, dispite kakashi saying Naruto has surpassed him, but there are some matches that Naruto could win that Kakashi couldn't.
Naruto vs Jaraiya: I think Jaraiya, seeing as Jariaya knows most of his trick, except for his new fuutons, but Jaraiya has a thing for fire jutsus, so he could handle him.

Mewtwo42 October 21st, 2007 8:11 AM

Kakashi can't defeat Shippuden Sasuke? I bet he could. Remember, Kakashi has the
Spoiler:
Mangekyo
. That's a really powerful jutsu. But, then again Sasuke has a sword and
Spoiler:
Orochimaru's techniques....
well it would be pretty even, but I believe that Kakashi would win.

@Chibaymega12:...that's a long post. o_o

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 8:15 AM

yes, i agree, but sasuke has a ton of Jutsus we havn't seen yet, like the one he was about to use to kill Naruto, Sakura, Sai, and whatever the other dude's name is, and of course all of the jutsu he copied in two years at Oro's

Mewtwo42 October 21st, 2007 8:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 2999885)
yes, i agree, but sasuke has a ton of Jutsus we havn't seen yet, like the one he was about to use to kill Naruto, Sakura, Sai, and whatever the other dude's name is, and of course all of the jutsu he copied in two years at Oro's

Hmm... I guess you're right. But do you think Sasuke will defeat Itachi? I don't think he can do it alone.

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 8:41 AM

i dunno, sasuke has a greater array of jutsu than itatchi, but itatchi has a greater handle on his sharingan, so i'm not sure, i'm leaning on sasuke

Mewtwo42 October 21st, 2007 9:34 AM

I think people sometimes give too much credit to Sasuke. Yeah, he's good and all, but he's not perfect. Itachi is so powerful
Spoiler:
that if you look into his Sharingan, he gets you in his Genjutsu, and can torture you for 72 hours!!!(I just think the 72 hours thing is funny)
Itachi is extremely fast, and faster than Sasuke, too. Not to mention the dimension-warping powers of the Mangekyo Sharingan. With the power to control space and time(to an extent) Itachi is one of the most powerful people in the series.

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 2999868)
OKay, my turn to ramble
Oh yeah, have u read all the way to the current shippuden manga Shayla?

Okay, In a real battle, i'm not really sure who would win, letme lay this out. The battle would probably begin by Sasuke trying to take him out quickly, and not have it drawn out too long, by using a long chidori. Naruto, of course, would respawn by casting muliple shadow clones, while he prepares a rasenshuriken to take out the chidori before it gets out of hand. When sasuke takes out all of the clones, and more come, he decides not to waste chakra and with draws his sword, amplifying it by chidori current, and goes straight through them, once he's through, he realizes what naruto's goal is: to make a powerful jutsu, so he activates his sharingan to see what kind of jutsu it is while doing a regular chidori just in case, but when he realizes it's a wind style jutsu, it's too late, and it appears that naruto ripped sasuke's body to shreads to the point right before death, and right when naruto tries to pick him up to take him back to Konoha, he realizes it's a genjutsu, when sasuke appears behind him, thrusting a chidori through his back, but sense he's using the sharingan, he knows it's a clone, and he's ready, and when Naruto pops outta the blue sending another rasenshuriken at him, Sasuke spins around and fires an S ranked fire jutsu at him, but he realizes thats a clone too, and Naruto pops outta the ground and punches him right in the noggin, much like neji, but unfortunately, naruto is caought in the inferno of the clashing jutsu's, and right before his death, a shield of the nine tailed foxes chakra makes a shield around him and naruto goes straight to his 5 tailed form. When sasuke sees the power, he tries to take him in his curse seal two, but is not nearly enough, so goes to his curse seal 3, which is just a match for naruto, and somehow naruto has complete control of his state, so both of them go for just one attack to end it all: Naruto his Rasengan, and Sasuke his Chidori, when they clash, sasuke just misses and naruto his him straight on. They both fall to the ground and naruto retains his contienceness, and picks up Sasuke and goes home.
That would be how it would go in a manga, but in a real battle, i'd have to say sasuke hands down.
Now, Sasuke vs Kakashi, i'd think it'd be a pretty even match, until kakashi whips out his mangekyou sharingan on him.
Sasuke vs Jaraiya: Sasuke hands down, but if Kakashi and Jaraiya were to fight, Jaraiya would win, it's just the match, but over all, Jaraiya is the superior ninja, it's just the match.
Naruto vs Kakashi: If naruto can't beat sasuke, he cant beat kakashi, dispite kakashi saying Naruto has surpassed him, but there are some matches that Naruto could win that Kakashi couldn't.
Naruto vs Jaraiya: I think Jaraiya, seeing as Jariaya knows most of his trick, except for his new fuutons, but Jaraiya has a thing for fire jutsus, so he could handle him.

Yeah, I've read all of it, why?

Good ramble. :3 It surpasses mine. XD

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Originally Posted by Mewtwo42 (Post 2999877)
Kakashi can't defeat Shippuden Sasuke? I bet he could. Remember, Kakashi has the
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Mangekyo
. That's a really powerful jutsu. But, then again Sasuke has a sword and
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Orochimaru's techniques....
well it would be pretty even, but I believe that Kakashi would win.

@Chibaymega12:...that's a long post. o_o

Yes, but his Mangekyo weakens him a lot. That, and it takes a lot of time and preperation, shown in the manga and the episode. In a full blown fight Sasuke wouldn't give Kakashi enough time to even begin to use it. And I bet now that Sasuke is enhanced by Orochimaru, he's going to know tons of new Jutsu and the fact that he can use the Curse Mark absolutely makes it impossible for Kakashi to stand a chance.

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Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 2999967)
i dunno, sasuke has a greater array of jutsu than itatchi, but itatchi has a greater handle on his sharingan, so i'm not sure, i'm leaning on sasuke

I think Sasuke will win, just because he 'has to' but I don't think he's stronger than Itachi.
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In chapter 367 when Sasuke and Itachi finally met? Well, on the second page you can see a crow on Itachi's shoulder, which I believe means that Itachi had already had Sasuke locked in Genjutsu before they even started. I think he did that because he wanted to test Sasuke's abilities a little before he gave him a full blown battle. But as far as strength goes, I think Itachi is stronger. (currently, since he's been weakening because of his Mangekyo and all)

Mewtwo42 October 21st, 2007 9:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkIllusion
Yes, but his Mangekyo weakens him a lot. That, and it takes a lot of time and preperation, shown in the manga and the episode. In a full blown fight Sasuke wouldn't give Kakashi enough time to even begin to use it. And I bet now that Sasuke is enhanced by Orochimaru, he's going to know tons of new Jutsu and the fact that he can use the Curse Mark absolutely makes it impossible for Kakashi to stand a chance.

Well, you sure made a good point. I hadn't thought of that. Now I'm unsure about who would win. I'm now starting to think that Sasuke would win in a fight with Kakashi.

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 9:56 AM

In Shippuuden I honestly think Sasuke would win, but back in the other episodes Kakashi would probably mostlikely win.

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mewtwo42 (Post 3000156)
I think people sometimes give too much credit to Sasuke. Yeah, he's good and all, but he's not perfect. Itachi is so powerful
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that if you look into his Sharingan, he gets you in his Genjutsu, and can torture you for 72 hours!!!(I just think the 72 hours thing is funny)
Itachi is extremely fast, and faster than Sasuke, too. Not to mention the dimension-warping powers of the Mangekyo Sharingan. With the power to control space and time(to an extent) Itachi is one of the most powerful people in the series.


The thing is, itatchi doesn't have that mangekyou sharingan power, he only has two of the 3 mangekyou powers, the black fire, and the intense genjutsu, not the warp taht kakashi has

also, sasuke was as fast as guy(however you spell his name) and guy is just as fast as itatchi, and after the two years with oro, his speed as probably doubled over, making sasuke much faster than itatchi. Sasuke is a superior ninja than itatchi, and sasuke knows every in and out of itatchi's sharingan, and he and oro probably devised a plan to cancel it out, and Sasuke doesn't rely on the sharingan that much other than to slow movements down so he can fight back, plus, sasuke has the power of the curse seal to fall back on if needed

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 10:46 AM

Ok... If it came down to Naruto and Sasuke, Sasuke would win hand's down, but I think if Naruto actually had gone along with Itatchi he would have came out on top.

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 10:47 AM

what do you mean if naruto would have gone with itatchi?

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 10:52 AM

I mean the Episode when Itatchi came to get Naruto and Sasuke got in the way. If Naruto would have gone with them he would be on top.

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 10:56 AM

oooooooooooooooh, wel itatchi didn't come to train him, but to hold him prisoner for two years until the fox could be extracted, so i'd have to disagree, plus, even if itatchi did come to train him, then he still wouldn't be as strong, cause he wouldn't have learned the rasengan, or anything after that

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 11:00 AM

Oh I see what your talking about,but I still think Naruto is a better ninja than Sasuke. Just think if Sasuke would have never had the Curse Mark.

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 3000301)
The thing is, itatchi doesn't have that mangekyou sharingan power, he only has two of the 3 mangekyou powers, the black fire, and the intense genjutsu, not the warp taht kakashi has

also, sasuke was as fast as guy(however you spell his name) and guy is just as fast as itatchi, and after the two years with oro, his speed as probably doubled over, making sasuke much faster than itatchi. Sasuke is a superior ninja than itatchi, and sasuke knows every in and out of itatchi's sharingan, and he and oro probably devised a plan to cancel it out, and Sasuke doesn't rely on the sharingan that much other than to slow movements down so he can fight back, plus, sasuke has the power of the curse seal to fall back on if needed

Yeah, I know that. Or, no one knows whether or not Itachi doesn't have Kakshi's. XD

Yeah, I considered that, but you also have to consider that Itachi probably hasn't been standing around doing nothing while Sasuke has been training. Its true that Itachi does use Sharingan a bit too much, but we haven't exactly seen Itachi enough to know that its the only thing he uses all the time. Most of the situations he was in he would use it because he had no choice or wanted to prove a point (or screw with Sasuke's head) XD And Itachi does have other abilities besides Sharingan. He's quite good at most Jutsu he's tried, and his abilities in Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, and Genjutsu are very advanced. I know that Sasuke is probably stronger than Itachi, I'm just trying to hang onto some hope so Itachi doesn't die because I love him. XD

In the end, Sasuke is going to win, though. >_> I hate that Itachi is gonna die. *goes to cry somewhere* XD

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkIllusion (Post 3000407)
Yeah, I know that. Or, no one knows whether or not Itachi doesn't have Kakshi's. XD

Yeah, I considered that, but you also have to consider that Itachi probably hasn't been standing around doing nothing while Sasuke has been training. Its true that Itachi does use Sharingan a bit too much, but we haven't exactly seen Itachi enough to know that its the only thing he uses all the time. Most of the situations he was in he would use it because he had no choice or wanted to prove a point (or screw with Sasuke's head) XD And Itachi does have other abilities besides Sharingan. He's quite good at most Jutsu he's tried, and his abilities in Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, and Genjutsu are very advanced. I know that Sasuke is probably stronger than Itachi, I'm just trying to hang onto some hope so Itachi doesn't die because I love him. XD

In the end, Sasuke is going to win, though. >_> I hate that Itachi is gonna die. *goes to cry somewhere* XD


I would need some more feedback on Itatchi's battle style, he is very skilled at most,but if someone can over come his Sharingan he might be in a bit of trouble. Does he have anything to fall back on beside his sharingan ?

EDIT* Unlike Kakashi,Sasuke has the full potential to defeat his older brother,could it be because Itatchi kinda rushed through his training ?

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 11:13 AM

Remember that time when they were explaining how to fight the Sharingan when they went to rescue Gaara? Isn't the rule 'If its one on one, run because you don't have a chance' or something? Or is that if you don't have Sharingan? I forget. XD

Now that I think of it I think it only applies if you don't have Sharingan, but I'm going to post this anyways so someone can reassure me. >_>

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkIllusion (Post 3000471)
Remember that time when they were explaining how to fight the Sharingan when they went to rescue Gaara? Isn't the rule 'If its one on one, run because you don't have a chance' or something? Or is that if you don't have Sharingan? I forget. XD

Now that I think of it I think it only applies if you don't have Sharingan, but I'm going to post this anyways so someone can reassure me. >_>

Well I can't reassure you on this part cause I have no clue,but if your someone like Naruto being that is your Chakra move's a different way than you then your fine.

EDIT* Then again Kakashi was no match for Itatchi even with his one eye.

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 11:22 AM

How far are you in the series? Because Naruto actually got effected by Itachi's Genjutsu three times faster, just because Itachi was trying to get him locked in Genjutsu.

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkIllusion (Post 3000499)
How far are you in the series? Because Naruto actually got effected by Itachi's Genjutsu three times faster, just because Itachi was trying to get him locked in Genjutsu.

No I wasn't trying to say about Naruto and Itatchi I was just pointing out that Sasuke couldn't track Naruto's move's as good as he should be.

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 11:38 AM

Ah. I must've misunderstood what you wrote. My bad.

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 11:44 AM

And I'm between show I watch the ones on CN and dub's on youtube.

Rainfall October 21st, 2007 11:51 AM

I don't use Youtube, because they keep deleting the episodes. I use NarutoMagic . com. <_< Just because they have every episode and I don't have to search much for them. XD

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 11:58 AM

Thank's for that and I know what you mean I missed atleast 5-6 episode in between 200-216

Mewtwo42 October 21st, 2007 1:26 PM

I don't bother watching them. I read the translations. It seems better than the anime, to me.

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 1:35 PM

Man, I just got finished watching Neji and Choji's battle when they faint I get so caught up in the show I would start to cry. ( or just tear)

Ichikool October 21st, 2007 1:39 PM

They're not dead, desu ... XP

Sasuke Vs Naruto topic:
Tough, but I'll go with Naruto. He can do it. XD

Cacttus October 21st, 2007 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Gullwing (Post 3001213)
They're not dead, desu ... XP

Sasuke Vs Naruto topic:
Tough, but I'll go with Naruto. He can do it. XD

Do you mean for a rematch ?

Ichikool October 21st, 2007 1:49 PM

Yes, by that I do. XD;
Sorry I didn't make that clear, desu.

Mewtwo42 October 21st, 2007 2:13 PM

Naruto VS Sasuke? I'd have to say Naruto. He has the demon fox and all.

Chibaymega12 October 21st, 2007 6:02 PM

yeah, it's a hard match sasuke and naruto, you want one to win, but you know in your heart the other can process just as much power, i honestly think sasuke would win, unless naruto can get some water jutsus, but naruto is becoming more and more powerful each day, and i think sasuke is just about at his learning potential, whereas naruto has 12 of untapped talent (you know, when he was a goof in the academy and could hardly perform anything but the smexy jutsu)

In a battle against Itatchi and Sasuke, i think Sasuke would come out on top, despite oro saying himself that Itatchi was stronger than himself, and sasuke saying the only reason he won against oro was because of his weakened state, i think sasuke has been keeping alot of secrets from the manga readers

Gallade~Dude October 22nd, 2007 12:24 PM

Lololol....Can I join....I just finished watching the 2nd and 3rd movie...

My favs are Obito,Temari and Shikamaru...

Chibaymega12 October 22nd, 2007 12:42 PM

sure you can, welcome! Feel free to answer the topic.

Also, your banner is awesome! Did you make it?

Cacttus October 22nd, 2007 1:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 3002558)
yeah, it's a hard match sasuke and naruto, you want one to win, but you know in your heart the other can process just as much power, i honestly think sasuke would win, unless naruto can get some water jutsus, but naruto is becoming more and more powerful each day, and i think sasuke is just about at his learning potential, whereas naruto has 12 of untapped talent (you know, when he was a goof in the academy and could hardly perform anything but the smexy jutsu)

In a battle against Itatchi and Sasuke, i think Sasuke would come out on top, despite oro saying himself that Itatchi was stronger than himself, and sasuke saying the only reason he won against oro was because of his weakened state, i think sasuke has been keeping alot of secrets from the manga readers

I see what your saying there. What would Sasuke do after he has defeated his brother and got his revenge ? I mean he took that path is that all he's going to do ?

Rainfall October 22nd, 2007 1:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibaymega12 (Post 3002558)
yeah, it's a hard match sasuke and naruto, you want one to win, but you know in your heart the other can process just as much power, i honestly think sasuke would win, unless naruto can get some water jutsus, but naruto is becoming more and more powerful each day, and i think sasuke is just about at his learning potential, whereas naruto has 12 of untapped talent (you know, when he was a goof in the academy and could hardly perform anything but the smexy jutsu)

In a battle against Itatchi and Sasuke, i think Sasuke would come out on top, despite oro saying himself that Itatchi was stronger than himself, and sasuke saying the only reason he won against oro was because of his weakened state, i think sasuke has been keeping alot of secrets from the manga readers

Yeah, Naruto is a goof. XD But he starts getting serious when Sasuke basically stomps on his poor heart and leaves. Poor Naruto. *little tear* But yeah, Sasuke would probably win. He did win that final battle before he went to Orochi, so that probably settles it.

<_< I think Sasuke keeps secrets too, but remember the fight with Deidara? How many secrets could he have kept if he didn't use them against him? He was forced to use that big snake as a final defense. If he had secrets he should've done a whole lot better against Deidara, in my opinion. But you never know.

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Originally Posted by Gallade~Dude (Post 3004733)
Lololol....Can I join....I just finished watching the 2nd and 3rd movie...

My favs are Obito,Temari and Shikamaru...

Welcome to the club!~

Mewtwo42 October 22nd, 2007 1:18 PM

Just as Kakashi said one time, that if you exact revenge on someone, and your sole purpose of living was to exact revenge on that person, then there will only be emptiness left.

But, I think people highly overestimate Sasuke. Itachi is one of the strongest ninja in the series. I'm not saying Sasuke isn't, but come on. Itachi is stronger than Oro, and the only reason Sasuke beat Oro is because he was in a weakened state, and couldn't really fight.
Yeah, Sasuke beat Diedara and all, but Diedara was at a disadvantage when fighting Sasuke because Sasuke had Lightening jutsus which have power over Earth Jutsus which is the type of jutsu Diedara used.
I think Sasuke could stand a chance if he had some help, but Itachi specifically told Sasuke to come alone. Therefor, I think that Sasuke has very little to no chance of winning. Besides, would the guy who writes Naruto have one of the Sasuke do the only thing he wanted to do in life, which is kill Itachi? It would definately shorten the series by a lot if he did, and it looks like there's a lot more life left in the series.

Ichikool October 22nd, 2007 1:20 PM

Still on this topic huh, desu...? Oh and guys... I really think you should use spoiler tags for the people who are not caught up yet. [That's not me by the way. XD I'm caught up, desu.]

Gallade~Dude ~ Welcome to the club!


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