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....heheh, didn't know that. XD Originally, I wanted to say Shirona, but then, a certain someone would have used my trademark cry again, so I changed it in the middle. Didn't know that it would turn out so funnily. XD
...she did. >> No, Sabrina will not like this very much. Niehter will she like being awaked and immideately be killed by Cynthia because now certain queen knows that she's still alive. Will is, for once, dumb. Very dumb. Argh. >< Lossing his wife over a simple kiss that didn't really need to be mentioned. >.< |
Well, he's not just letting her out over that, he's letting her out because he misses her. He's gone three months without seeing her. And besides, maybe he can hide the kiss from her long enough that it won't be a problem...
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I know, I know, but he will miss her even more if Cynthia kills Sabrina just because her FRIGGIN STUPID HUSBAND let her out just to see her again when it was their WHOLE FRIGGIN plan to let her stay in as long as danger, aka Cynthia, is out there. >>
Yeah, he hides it from her for two minutes, then Cynthia comes in and kills her. Problem solved. >> |
Hey, you're acting like the writer is incompetent here... relax, I've got it all under control.
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No, no, no, not the writer is incompetent, the character is! XD It's kinda stupid f Will to do this, that's what I mean. It has nothign to do with your writing, since writer =/= character. =3 (Though sometimes I wish I were Will...you know why...0=) )
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So basically you plan on blaming Sabrina's imminent death, if there happened to be one, on Will. Makes sense, though I think you'd have to blame the writer first. I'll post that chapter sometime when I'm on my computer.
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Well, yes, I would blame it on Will and Cynthia, but that one is obvious, there's no one else who would/could kill her that easily..
Thing is....characters do stuff that authors don't approve. At least that's my philosophy. I got attacked for something one of my characters did (opening a grave and stealing something from it) by a reader and that's when I formed this rule for myself. My characters do things I would never do, either because these thigns digust me, I don't approve them, I don't want to break rules, I'm too shy, or heck, just because I don't want to. I'm not my characters and they can do whatever they want (kinda). So that's why I blame Will, and not you. ^.^ |
Okay, I'm glad you won't blame me. It is my fault that Cynthia is evil, though, that's something that no one thought of before me. But you're right, my characters a lot of times do things that I would never do.
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XD Of course not, why should I blame yo---wait, does that mean that Sabrina *will* be killed? Oo Okay, in that case, I might get a bit angry at you...XD!
...or they do things you would like to do? 0=) |
Sorry, I can't find the pictures of those Sabrina cosplayers.
Do you want me to post the new chapter today? I think I have it ready if you want to see it. |
Ah, no problem, I will find some Sabrina cosplayers one day. Or rather, some more cosplayers, as I have already found a few on deviantart. But, so far, only there. >> (And weird other internet sources I cannot name, because they lack a name. o,o)
...why do you even ask me if I want to see the new chapter? XD Isn't my answer kind of obvious? |
Okay, it's up now, maybe you've seen it by now.
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I guess some part of the review will have to come here...*mutters something quietly about a certain husband she still believes to be completely stupid*
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Other part in the other fanclub. =3 |
So Sabrina survives, and actually it did not even cross my mind, the thought of her dying, through this whole chapter. I began to miss her, which is why I had Will take her out of the ball. Maybe this will keep me from thinking of killing her off in the future...
Sabrina will always bow to Cynthia and her family. Also, I couldn't bear to see Sabrina and Will break up, so I quickly had Liza come in and straighten things out. She can be helpful at times, like this one. |
...o,o it didn't even cross your mind?! WTF?!?!? And all this time, I have been worrying about Sabrina. >>
Okay, if missing her keeps you from killing her, then let Will force her into that ball a few more times. XD! Every chapter that Cynthia tries to kill her in, best. =3 No, she won't always bow to them. 0=) I couldn't have beared to see this, too (heck why they quickly got together in my fic, too- plus, it gives you the chance to write amazing cuddle and fluffy scenes 0=) ), so that's why I patted Liza this time. She's not as bratty as she seems to be...at least today. XD |
She's probably not going back in that ball for the rest of the story... and I almost gave away something about the next chapter here, because I forgot it wasn't up yet.
Yes, she will! We got some fluffy scenes as well as an argument, so I'd say it was a pretty good chapter for the development of their marriage. |
Hm, so her not going back is a important plot thing? Hopefully, not her death... Meh, I rather guess the ball gets destroyed or something. That would at least by the best solution for me, no danger of dying for sweet Sabrina. 0=)
No, she won't. XD Well, I would have spend a few chapters on this development, knowing my tendency to write ten sentences where one would be enough, but I won't complain about fluffy scenes and marriage development. *g* There's no way to tell which way's better. ^^ |
What makes you think Sabrina's going to get her way against Cynthia and stop bowing to her? Cynthia's going to be around a long time...
Yes, but if there were a few chapters of the argument, it would slow down the plot, and it would possibly be a really bad argument that wouldn't be so easy to recover from. So I like the way it turned out better. |
(Before I post anything, just let me say that school killed me, I got a nasty headache AND I feel ill. x.x If you want a review for any soon-to-be-posted chapter or something, don't expect it any sooner than Tuesday. x.x)
Well, first, Cynthia won't be around forever and second, who says that Sabrina will get her way against her? Heheh, drama, baby, drama! (No one will recognise this....>>). I love playing with people's love, and I love seing it being played with. Well, at least as long as I know that they will end up together again. ^.~ It usually ends up with even more romantic, fluffy scenes, just like it happened in your fic (and in mine). |
Didn't Cynthia become immortal? Or are you going to do something to break her immortality?
It's always nice for a little fluff. Sometimes, though, I have to move on to other parts of the plot. And I guess I'll wait until Tuesday to post the next chapter of my fic. |
Yes, she did become immortal, but will she be immortal forever? Or is immortal simply a synonym for forever young? Is this even a hint? You'll have to wait until I friggin finish Spring's Revenge and start The Golden Prince.
Meh, I wish I could read the chapter to cheer me up, yet, I can understand that you want the review directly after the chapter. I'm so sorry that I feel too ill to write one right now, but even if I tried, it wouldn't be such a good review. On the topic side...well, the hottest new topic right now is OF COURSE HG/SS. Any idea on the 'new' Sabrina there? =3 |
Hopefully Sabrina has dark green hair and looks like her anime self. Then hopefully she's one of the strongest people in Kanto - I remember that she was one of the first Kanto gym leaders to go down in Gold/Silver, because you arrive at Saffron sooner. And what if, *gasp*, we get some background information on her life? Even just a couple sentences, a small hint? It would be epic.
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If I remember right, her FR/LG sprite looked game-like, so no green hair. >>
I hope for this, too, but I fear it will come down to her being one of the weaker gym leaders again, beceause Saffron could again be one of the cities you visit early. The second next to Vermillion, right? It's been so long since I last played Crystal.... (that, and I never *wanted* to beat Sabrina right away...*coughs*) *gasp*...well, we did get a bit of background information of her over the span of the games. XD! She got her powers when she was a child, and she distastes battling. And she got a fan me on the Sevi Islands. A bit more information, though, wouldn't hurt. And please, more information on Will. ;.; |
I will be disappointed if the games give little information on Sabrina and Will, even worse if they just repeat their lines from the previous games. There better be an all-out effort to make these ones good, that's for sure.
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Yeah, I would be disappointed, too, but wasn't this the case with FR/LG, just a repeating of the old lines? I don't remember so well. Of course, to bring nothing new would be very stupid of the game creators, even FR/LG had something new (and, well, a new fan for Sabrina XD). In the end, we can only hope that there will be a few more lines.
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At least we're getting another game with Sabrina in it, that's not something I had expected for the last few years. Unless, of course, they change the storyline... what if some Sinnoh woman happened to kill off Sabrina?
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What, you actually did not see this coming? I kinda did. It was, after a while, getting quite obvious that there would be G/S remakes. I wouldn't have betted on it, though, because there's always a chance they might tried to mislead us, yet, in the end, it was obvious.
...CPF, you've been a good friend of mine for quite a few years now, but if you don't stop annoying me with your "Cynthia will/will not/whatever kill Sabrina", I will quit it. Because it is getting annyoing. >> |
Is there still a chance to become a member in this club? If yes, I would like to join in.
Why? Because Sabrina was my favourite Gym leader from the first moment I saw her in the original games (think it was 1998/99) and she is my favourite until today, and tomorrow she will be it, too. I like her Anime version, but in the PokeSpec manga, she's best in my opinion. xD At all who fear that she might be under-powered in HGSS: She wasn't weak in GSC. Because it was possible to travel through Kanto in about 30 minutes if you avoid the fights, all Gym leaders had the same level of Pokemon, so none of them was weaker then the others (of all Gym leaders, only Blue had higher-leveled Pokemon). I don't think they change it. [No doubt that it was pretty easy to beat the Kanto Gym Leaders anyway...] |
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All in all, I think you're right, they won't change much. But hey, FR/LG had some changes, AND there was something about Sabrina, too. Not to mention the great possibility of a moving sprite...*.* |
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Anyway, back on topic. How is psychic better in the third generation (Hoenn, right I kinda mix them up sometimes)? Anyone want to take any guesses as how a moving sprite of her would look like? Or what information you would like to have included? FR/LG already started it with their FameChecker, but, I find that information there kinda lacking the important-ness. >> We all *knew* before that she's telepathic. XD |
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You must have 13 then; the hotspring scene and her battle are in 13, not in 12. [Thinking by now, I'm quite glad they didn't show her completely. So you could imagine some... details by yourself, and, more important, not every unworthy teenage boy who might read this would claim her as his personal sexual object.] Her fighting was so good... I was really shocked how predominat Bugsy was, but from that moment Heracross crashed in that invisible wall, it was all wonderful. ^^ No, sadly there are only about four or five more pictures from her, not more. I don't know about 15, but I don't have that many hope. [From what I understand that far, you like Will, so you might be disappointed that he's wearing a harlequin costume, and is even acting like one... o_O] Quote:
You´re perfectly right. I'm quite active at the Monotype Challenge Thread the last time, I thought. But I wouldn't have expect somebody to read what I've written, honestly. ^^" Psychic is quite better because it seems to have more power, surprisingly. You get better Pokemon (and better TMs to support them), like Gardevoir instead of Hypno. Calm Mind really makes a difference, I nearly beat every gym leader's Pokemon with only one hit! But maybe it's a chestiness by myself that they are stronger as in Gen.2, causing by the fact I'm rushing through the game in an unexpected speed (unexpected by me, at least...). |
(Did my post get deleted or what? Oo I saw it before, but now it has disappeared...wtf?)
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Psychic WAS that strong in Gen1. No weaknesses, remember? Nearly all Psychic Pokemon were OverUsed in Competive Play. There was hardly a team without Alakazam, Exeggcutor and Starmie. (And, after playing it that way, I can see why.) |
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Nevertheless, you're right, I hardly saw a team without Alakazam back then, and, well, yeah, I still have two Alakazam from back then...(Yellow and Blue ones) I hardly ever delete Team Pokemon, I just get them into every new game I start. XD! |
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...never noticed that I'm a psychic *Absol*? I love both dark and psychic types. Don't hurt me. *hides* XD |
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And hey, my in-game character Amelie (hit me, I know I use her for nearly everything *hides*) likes dark and psychic Pokemon. She even (always) uses a team of psychic and dark Pokemon. Heck, my whole fic (the big one) is based around the fact that psychic and dark are complete opposites yet *can* work together. (Spring's Revenge does so, too, strangely. Oo I just noticed that myself....) |
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And Will is, at least in the manga, a clear Sith. Zammy will so celebrate this, hearing it from me. >.<;;;;;; |
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And, falling back on the "evil and powerhungry"-aspect, Sabrina's a Sith in the PokeSpec without a doubt, yes... ^^ I always liked the Sith best (disappointing that the Jedi always win against them. -.-) in any game, book or movie of Star Wars. And they have the better music. ^^ Think that's reflected in the fact that I'm an Absol, too, in some ways. I don't know if somebody has mentioned it already, but did you notice that Pokespec Sabrina probably has a crush on Giovanni? x_X |
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So you like the "cult" Roxanne has created? I've got a lot of possibilities for this, which could be really sweet. Unfortunately they have neither to do with Sabrina nor Cynthia, but rather the characters that used to be important until I started centering my fic on the Cynthia-Sabrina one-sided rivalry. Speaking of which, we'll go back to that rivalry in Chapters 32 and 33, one of which I can put up today.
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Well, the "cult" may or may not exist after this story, depending on how things go... you can certainly use it, as long as there are still believers in Arceus after what happens later...
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*shrugs* If it does still exist, might as well use it. If not, I can revive it with certain characters as the *new* founders (I do have an idea about it, and oh, the twists, the twists! XD).
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Hm...being both doesn't even sound so bad...
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Besides, she was the might-hungry leader of a criminal organisation, so she definitely wouldn't want a child in such a situation. xD (Hm, I personally think she's only about 20-22 in GSC. óò (Or should I say, "hope"?) |
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You forgot about the point that in my eyes fighting is the opposite to psychic. Don't you have any arguments? ^^
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It's just that dark Pokemon may have a strong mind and withstand Psychic, but that's all. I guess their mind is so strong that they could built up a barrage in their head to block anything Psychic, but to profite from that as a human, your mind must be connected with the Dark Pokemons mind - which is impossible of course because of its mental barrage! Or probably - just probably! - you could awake such a strong mind in yourself while training Dark Pokemon a long time, such as Will awakes his powers in your story. But that's the only agreement I can make, because I think my point is rationally more logical than yours. (To come closer to your point - a last thinking. The way a Dark Pokemon attacks could use that power creating its mental barrage. Let's say, if Dark Pokemon are over-emotional, they use this emotion in their attacks (That's logical to me at least, because emotions could protect you from attacks on your attitude (I'm sure that's the wrong word)... Well, being an idealist helps you not to take strokes of fate as hard as others would. that may fit it best...). Cause a Psychics mind is that fragile and he hides emotions not to weak his powers, that may be the reason why this emotion-powered Dark attacks are so powerful against Psychic human and Pokemon. Do you accept this? =] ) Quote:
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So, I see you've joined us Wyyrlokk. Welcome to the club! :D
Yeah, I've been away for a week, but now I'm back! Wow...I just went through the PC WiFi Tournament and the Ultimate Monotype Challenge, and even the Sailor Moon Fan Guild, and I'm now caught up on everything that was said in each of them. But here....we sure do post a lot, eh? :P Well, everyone knows what my plans are fic-wise, so I see no point in repeating myself, right? XD Just know that I'll have a lot of funky BlackVelvet moments, and best of all, NO WILL! ^______^ |
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Oh my god, that line just made my day, XD. We have another Anti-Psychic-Shipper in the house. foxyay! :D |
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No comment at your discussion with Zammy. >> I feel underpowered here. (And yes, for a psychicshipper, a story without Will is worse than one where he is the villain. Latter can still include hints. Can't it, Zammy? 0=) ) @Zammy: ...after talking about all of that BlackVelvetShippyness, I would be very happy if I FINALLY SAW THAT DAMN NEW CHAPTER WITH MY OWN EYES!!!! Oh, and plz beta-read. A certain new reader is blackmailing me. 0=) |
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See, Water-Fire-Grass is a triangle. Water is effective against Fire, and Fire is effectiv against Grass, and Grass is effective against Water. Going the other way around, Water isn't effective against Grass, as well as Grass isn't effective against Fire and Fire isn't effective against Water. So that's the concept of a triangle. Let's look again. Psychic is effective against Fighting; Fighting is effective against Dark; Dark is effective against Psychic. And the other way around? Dark isn't effective against Fighting. Fighting isn't effective against Psychic. And Psychic - doesn't effect Dark! That breaks the concept of the triangle and is the reason why Nintendo will never create a game with a Psychic, a Dark and a Fighting Pokemon as starters. [I have to admit that this wasn't my awareness.] Quote:
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[My eyes only: Hm, I should better be more cautious while blackmailing somebody... ] |
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Not to mention that there were rumours of a group of dark, psychic and fighting starters, but these ended up being fake (much to my dismay, these fake starters looked cuter than the real ones. >.<) Quote:
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(I'm only kidding, of course I'm happy when someone memorizes my fic that well. Rarely happens. ^^ Though I *know* I use quotes from other fics frequently in mine...) Quote:
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Post #100... ôO
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Well, the makers don't want to take away the fun we have with speculations and dreams. ^^ |
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Seriously, what would you do if Sabrina fell in love with another men (not necessarily Will) and not you? Kill him? Oo Quote:
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And I guess a lot of Poke-, Advance-, Ikari- and other -shippers would disagree with you and *love* to see more shippings scenes. I would almost be happy enough if they just showed that Will is even alive and existing in the Pokemon Anime world. ;.; Poor guy gets ignored all the time. |
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