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Psychic*Absol May 24th, 2009 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
You think she would cheat on her partner? -.- *angry mode to defend her honour*

...not cheat, but what if she doesn't like her partner and wants to get away from him? Though, if Sabrina didn't want to have a certain partner, she would get away by herself...*sulks over proving her own point wrong*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
That might be a way for her to decimate the number of possible partners... the strongest will survive. xD

Ahem, to quote Darwin: The fittest will survive, not the strongest, plz. That way, I have at least a chance!XD
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
Want to say that you wouldn't accept her choice? In that case, I don't have to simulate morality... *evil grin*

...I don't have to simulate morality, either. >> If Sabrina really chose another guy girl, well, I would be sad, but I would be, to some extend, happy for her. Happy that she at least found someone she loves. ^^
And I can still stalk her in the end. 0=)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
Which leads us back to the fact that we still would kill ourselves for her...

A miracle that the club has survives for this long...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
I think the manga Sabrina would be amused. Or even delighted.

Manga Sabrina? Oh, yes, highly amused. >> I can imagine that would snicker seeing the group of people fighting brutally over her, and in the end, she doesn't have to choose anyone, not even the winner.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
...it wouldn't be a red-letter-day for Zammy and me. Only if there is only Sabrina. Best without anyone else.

May I ask...Red-Letter-Day? o,o And yes, even I would be happy if there was even just an episode with her.
Though, with Will, it would be the topping on the ice...*lol*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4671175)
So all his fans in that club probably died a horrible and mysterious death... Zammy? Do you know anything about that? *g*

...it would be nice to blame it all on Zammy (j/k), but I know at least two surviving members of the old FC. *g*

Wyyrlokk May 24th, 2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4671303)
...not cheat, but what if she doesn't like her partner and wants to get away from him? Though, if Sabrina didn't want to have a certain partner, she would get away by herself...

If, when, maybe. I guess you just want to find a way to "free" her from me... y_y
(Well, if she doesn't want her partner anymore, I'm sure she's strong enough to tell it to tell it to him (or turns him into a doll... xp) instead of running away with somebody other. And probably she wouldn't even accept a relationship with somebody which she doesn't love enough to not have thinkings of breaking up.)

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...I don't have to simulate morality, either. >> If Sabrina really chose another guy girl, well, I would be sad, but I would be, to some extend, happy for her. Happy that she at least found someone she loves. ^^
You're right. y_y True love also means to accept the choice of the beloved person, even if that means that you're alone in the end.

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And I can still stalk her in the end. 0=)
And wait if she breaks up with that person, so you could take over? xD

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Manga Sabrina? Oh, yes, highly amused. >> I can imagine that would snicker seeing the group of people fighting brutally over her, and in the end, she doesn't have to choose anyone, not even the winner.
Probably I should behave like Giovanni to attract her, building up a cruel criminal organisation to take over the world... xD

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May I ask...Red-Letter-Day? o,o And yes, even I would be happy if there was even just an episode with her.
A red-letter day is a synonym to a festive day.

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Though, with Will, it would be the topping on the ice...*lol*
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...it would be nice to blame it all on Zammy (j/k), but I know at least two surviving members of the old FC. *g*
I think I know the two, too. But honestly, if I'm right it's not a miracle that he let this two live.

Psychic*Absol May 25th, 2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
If, when, maybe. I guess you just want to find a way to "free" her from me... y_y

'Free'...well, I guess I would, but if she really liked you (that IS a possibility ;-) ), I guess I would give up. (But you would introduce me to her, right? Right?!)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
(Well, if she doesn't want her partner anymore, I'm sure she's strong enough to tell it to tell it to him (or turns him into a doll... xp) instead of running away with somebody other.

Would Sabrina really be that cruel? o,o To someone she potentially loved once?
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
And probably she wouldn't even accept a relationship with somebody which she doesn't love enough to not have thinkings of breaking up.)

Ah, at the beginning, you never know if you love somebody. Maybve since she's psychic and may have premotions...but only then.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
You're right. y_y True love also means to accept the choice of the beloved person, even if that means that you're alone in the end.

;.; But at least, we could still be her fans and though, care for and look after her. =3
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
And wait if she breaks up with that person, so you could take over? xD

...*hides* *is the stalker in the shadows, always waiting for her moment*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
Probably I should behave like Giovanni to attract her, building up a cruel criminal organisation to take over the world... xD

...hm, you know, I wouldn't mind that idea. You seem to be a good candidate for a criminal organisation leader. XD Mind if I join? lol
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
A red-letter day is a synonym to a festive day.

Ah, thanks. ^^
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
...

Come on, we all have our personal preferences. 0=)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4673895)
I think I know the two, too. But honestly, if I'm right it's not a miracle that he let this two live.

Heheh, you know *one* of them, but not the two.

Wyyrlokk May 25th, 2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4676275)
'Free'...well, I guess I would, but if she really liked you (that IS a possibility ;-) ), I guess I would give up. (But you would introduce me to her, right? Right?!)

Feel free to visit us on Sunday for tee and training. xD

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Would Sabrina really be that cruel? o,o To someone she potentially loved once?
Isn't it much more cruel to run away with another man/girl, leaving your current partner behind without telling him that you don't love him anymore? Tell him/her that a relationship is over is not cruel in my eyes, it's honest.


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;.; But at least, we could still be her fans and though, care for and look after her. =3
We could, but I think I wouldn't be as happy with that as you would probably be.

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...hm, you know, I wouldn't mind that idea. You seem to be a good candidate for a criminal organisation leader. XD Mind if I join? lol
You know me for a week and already see me as a criminal mastermind? Either I should be offended... or you're a better psychologist than you might think right now...
(Of course you can, but Sabrina would be mine then, anyway... ^^ After all, I'm the head, whereas you only would be an executive or something like that.)

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Come on, we all have our personal preferences. 0=)
Therefore, I haven't argued with you. =)

Alakazam17 May 25th, 2009 1:36 PM

Wow, I have missed out on quite the conversation. ;_;

But I see I was a part of it for some reason I don't comprehend. XD

Anyways, Sabrina is gorgeous, though I have to say I was a little peeved at what she said in your last chapter, P*A. But I guess I'll have to get over it. =P

Psychic*Absol May 26th, 2009 9:04 AM

@Zammy: Aw, just throw yourself into the con whenever you want to! It's not that hard as others make it look like! ;-)
And well, *one* coming chapter might please both of you Psychicshipping-haters, but most of them won't. :-P
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4676562)
Feel free to visit us on Sunday for tee and training. xD

^^ Sure. (But for that, I kinda need to know where you are...j/k) I suppose it would be unfair if we don't invite Zammy, eh? *pokes him* XD
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4676562)
Isn't it much more cruel to run away with another man/girl, leaving your current partner behind without telling him that you don't love him anymore? Tell him/her that a relationship is over is not cruel in my eyes, it's honest.

I was referring to the half-sentence in brackets. Turning her ex-boyfriend into a doll? Wouldn't that be just cruel? o,o I can't see Sabrina sinking that low, though, it would be amusing to see (if the guy is really a nasty one).
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4676562)
We could, but I think I wouldn't be as happy with that as you would probably be.

Well, though I think our definitions of fan-ish addictions might be different, I think a true fan is always one that, in the end, accepts his or her idol's decisions. He or she is always free to overthink it and decide not to be a fan anymore, after all.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4676562)
You know me for a week and already see me as a criminal mastermind? Either I should be offended... or you're a better psychologist than you might think right now...

....for a moment, I wanted to say that second option is more likely, but that would mean...well, you are a Sith, after all.
Well, we're all a bit evil. 0=)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4676562)
(Of course you can, but Sabrina would be mine then, anyway... ^^ After all, I'm the head, whereas you only would be an executive or something like that.)

...would she even join your organisation? Anime Sabrina, I wouldn't be so sure about that, Game Sabrina had enough trouble with TR, and Manga Sabrina has TR (and Giovanni *g*).
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4676562)
Therefore, I haven't argued with you. =)

LOL Better not get into details or else we start arguing all over again.

Alakazam17 May 26th, 2009 10:18 AM

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@Zammy: Aw, just throw yourself into the con whenever you want to! It's not that hard as others make it look like! ;-)
Okay then, I'll do so right now. =P

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^^ Sure. (But for that, I kinda need to know where you are...j/k) I suppose it would be unfair if we don't invite Zammy, eh? *pokes him* XD
But there is the Atlantic to get in my way. XD

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I was referring to the half-sentence in brackets. Turning her ex-boyfriend into a doll? Wouldn't that be just cruel? o,o I can't see Sabrina sinking that low, though, it would be amusing to see (if the guy is really a nasty one).
Hmm, good idea. foxgod

Psychic*Absol May 26th, 2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4679880)
Okay then, I'll do so right now. =P

Yay! ^^ (You weren't appearing online on MSN, though. o,o)

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4679880)
But there is the Atlantic to get in my way. XD

Zammy, we got three people (guy/girl/pokemon) here who can Teleport, and you ARE an Alakazam, so what kind of problem is this little bit of water?

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4679880)
Hmm, good idea. foxgod

...said guy is NOT Will. >>

Wyyrlokk May 26th, 2009 11:32 AM

@Psychic*Absol:

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4679680)
^^ Sure. (But for that, I kinda need to know where you are...j/k) I suppose it would be unfair if we don't invite Zammy, eh? *pokes him* XD

As long as he doesn't get jealous... ^^

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I was referring to the half-sentence in brackets. Turning her ex-boyfriend into a doll? Wouldn't that be just cruel? o,o I can't see Sabrina sinking that low, though, it would be amusing to see (if the guy is really a nasty one).
Oh, you mean that. Ok, you're right. But on the other hand... I think it's really funny and evil to do so... xD Collecting some trophies.

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He or she is always free to overthink it and decide not to be a fan anymore, after all.
If she has another partner, I would still love her, but living around her just to hurt my heart every day? =_=

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....for a moment, I wanted to say that second option is more likely, but that would mean...well, you are a Sith, after all.
I am for sure. xD but don't fear me now.

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Well, we're all a bit evil. 0=)
Surely. Someone more, someone less.

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...would she even join your organisation? Anime Sabrina, I wouldn't be so sure about that, Game Sabrina had enough trouble with TR, and Manga Sabrina has TR (and Giovanni *g*).
We're talking about Manga Sabrina, and Team Rocket was destroyed there. Anyway, Giovanni wasn't strong enough, but if am, she might join my organisation and fall in love with me. Or maybe I would be fast enough to built up my organisation before TR was founded. xD So she would have no other choice.




@Zammy:
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Okay then, I'll do so right now. =P
That's good... It's more fun to discuss something with more people. =)


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But there is the Atlantic to get in my way. XD
Just use surf then. xD

Alakazam17 May 26th, 2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4680067)
Yay! ^^ (You weren't appearing online on MSN, though. o,o)

I saw you online all day, but it said you were busy. Thus, I decided not to disturb you. =P

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Zammy, we got three people (guy/girl/pokemon) here who can Teleport, and you ARE an Alakazam, so what kind of problem is this little bit of water?
Hmm, good point. XD *attempts to Teleport to Saffron City*

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...said guy is NOT Will. >>
In my post, said guy was Will. :P

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Just use surf then. xD
I am an Alakazam, not a Starmie! XD!!!

Wyyrlokk May 27th, 2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4680276)

In my post, said guy was Will. :P

I thought of him too. Strange... ^^

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I am an Alakazam, not a Starmie! XD!!!
Hey, you're an Alakazam falled in love with Sabrina (a human) - so why shouldn't you be able to catch a Water Pokemon and surf on it? xD

Psychic*Absol May 27th, 2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
As long as he doesn't get jealous... ^^

Nah, Zammy doesn't get jealous easily, now, does he? ;-)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
Oh, you mean that. Ok, you're right. But on the other hand... I think it's really funny and evil to do so... xD Collecting some trophies.

LOL I rather think she has a whole bookshelf full of little trainers that dared to loose against her. Though, if we go by anime, I wonder if these were re-transformed like her mother was after Sabrina started to laugh.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
If she has another partner, I would still love her, but living around her just to hurt my heart every day? =_=

I wouldn't mind. But then, I wouldn't be as jealous as you maybe. Just being aroung her would be wonderful for me. 0=)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
I am for sure. xD but don't fear me now.

^^ I don't. As long as you're not really a ghost and start to haunt me now. o,o
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
We're talking about Manga Sabrina, and Team Rocket was destroyed there.

It seemed to be that they were kinda restored in FR/LG...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
Anyway, Giovanni wasn't strong enough,

...he wasn't? >> He's still in power, Wyyrlokk, and he's still wanting to get more powerful. I wouldn't call that 'not strong enough'. And, btw, Viridian's power?
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
but if am, she might join my organisation and fall in love with me.

...did she fall in love with Giovanni?
*hides before he can realize that she contradicting herself*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
Or maybe I would be fast enough to built up my organisation before TR was founded. xD So she would have no other choice.

...first of all, you would have to come to the Pokemon world before TR was founded, then, and I can't believe that to be easy..Oo
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4680094)
That's good... It's more fun to discuss something with more people. =)

Yeah, *cough*, right...*more* people...>> Because some went leaving.

@Zammy: I was appearing busy? o,o WTF? *kicks MSN*
And you did not write that is was Will, so no, I was NOT Will.
BTW, chapter 21, please? =3

Wyyrlokk May 27th, 2009 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4684271)
LOL I rather think she has a whole bookshelf full of little trainers that dared to loose against her. Though, if we go by anime, I wonder if these were re-transformed like her mother was after Sabrina started to laugh.

I guess so... She wasn't evil anymore, and turning somebody in a doll is surely some sort of crime... xD

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I wouldn't mind. But then, I wouldn't be as jealous as you maybe. Just being aroung her would be wonderful for me. 0=)
Yes, I would be jealous... and would go away, probably dying desolate and forlorn in a far away country.

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As long as you're not really a ghost and start to haunt me now. o,o
And start making you laugh?


We should quit the discussion with Tr, because I have to leave tomorrow, as you know. ^^
By the way, you contradict yourself.
And we start with a simple theory and ended up with a discussion how we can bound this into the manga... xD By the way, at first you wanted to join and then you said it's impossible... another contradiction. xD



Ok. Zammy, I told P*A already, I have to leave you two for a few days. I'm back on Monday evening. ^^ Don't forget me.

Psychic*Absol May 27th, 2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
I guess so... She wasn't evil anymore, and turning somebody in a doll is surely some sort of crime... xD

Well, only as long as someone takes notice of the fact that these 'dolls' are, in fact, trainers. But then, I do not know how public known Sabrina's split personality and her 'quirks' were.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
Yes, I would be jealous... and would go away, probably dying desolate and forlorn in a far away country.

...compared to me living near Sabrina, in a constant hazy dream land...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
And start making you laugh?

...now I am Sabrina again? XD And you're Haunter? WTF? lol
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
We should quit the discussion with Tr, because I have to leave tomorrow, as you know. ^^

XD So what? We can continue it next Monday. ^^
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
By the way, you contradict yourself.

...no comment. I like to try to compare one thing and it's complete opposite, so...0=)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
And we start with a simple theory and ended up with a discussion how we can bound this into the manga... xD By the way, at first you wanted to join and then you said it's impossible... another contradiction. xD

I said that I think it's impossible to go to a specifiv point in the manga timeline. You said you want to build up a criminal organisation before Giovanni did, but for that, you theoretically have to go into the past.
But then again, we're talking about going to another universe
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684452)
Don't forget me.

0=) How could we?

Alakazam17 May 29th, 2009 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4684267)
I thought of him too. Strange... ^^

Anti-PsychicShippers think alike. That's why. ^_^

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Hey, you're an Alakazam falled in love with Sabrina (a human) - so why shouldn't you be able to catch a Water Pokemon and surf on it? xD
Hmmm...I suppose you're right. *catches a Luvdisc*

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
@Zammy: I was appearing busy? o,o WTF? *kicks MSN*
And you did not write that is was Will, so no, I was NOT Will.
BTW, chapter 21, please? =3

Nope, you weren't. But it was! =P

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlok
I guess so... She wasn't evil anymore, and turning somebody in a doll is surely some sort of crime... xD

Nope. The law-makers forgot to consider the possibility whenever they went and made the law. =P

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Ok. Zammy, I told P*A already, I have to leave you two for a few days. I'm back on Monday evening. ^^ Don't forget me.
Nope, you aren't forgotten, XD. See you later! ^^

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
Well, only as long as someone takes notice of the fact that these 'dolls' are, in fact, trainers. But then, I do not know how public known Sabrina's split personality and her 'quirks' were.

How would they know? :P

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...now I am Sabrina again? XD And you're Haunter? WTF? lol
Wait, you're Sabrina now?! =O

Psychic*Absol May 29th, 2009 1:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4692196)
Hmmm...I suppose you're right. *catches a Luvdisc*

...a tad bit surreal...but well, that coming from a guy who writes a crossover fic.
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4692196)
Nope, you weren't. But it was! =P

...what is "it"? o,o *doesn't get it*
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4692196)
Nope. The law-makers forgot to consider the possibility whenever they went and made the law. =P

...but turning into dolls...I'm sure that is *somehow* against the law...for once, human beings cannot be forced to live in a dollhouse, eh? XD
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4692196)
How would they know? :P

...well, a lot of trainers disappearing?
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4692196)
Wait, you're Sabrina now?! =O

...oh, yes, I am Sabrina. Didn't you know that? 0=)

Alakazam17 May 31st, 2009 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4692520)
...a tad bit surreal...but well, that coming from a guy who writes a crossover fic.

Crossover fics are fun, though! =D

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...what is "it"? o,o *doesn't get it*

I was poking fun at your typo, XD. The "it" was Will. =P

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol
...but turning into dolls...I'm sure that is *somehow* against the law...for once, human beings cannot be forced to live in a dollhouse, eh? XD

Possibly, but methinks Officer Jenny has bigger things to deal with. Actual people in actual life-sized houses, for instance. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...well, a lot of trainers disappearing?

Hmm, maybe so. But I doubt that would lead them to Sabrina's "lair."

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol
...oh, yes, I am Sabrina. Didn't you know that? 0=)

I had a feeling you were, even after you told me you weren't that time. xD

Wyyrlokk June 1st, 2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4684601)
0=) How could we?

My, my... I was absent four days, and there are only four new posts in this club... did you miss me that much?

Super Pichu June 1st, 2009 10:14 PM

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:SieqYtRieyNOBM:http://www.pokezam.com/anime/characters/gymleaders/kanto/sabrina.png
I want to join please!

Psychic*Absol June 2nd, 2009 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4699872)
Crossover fics are fun, though! =D

...not if you don't even know half of the universes. >.<
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4699872)
I was poking fun at your typo, XD. The "it" was Will. =P

...>.< darn. I hate typos. Of course, it was meant to be *I*., not *it*.
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4699872)
Possibly, but methinks Officer Jenny has bigger things to deal with. Actual people in actual life-sized houses, for instance. ^_^

...and real life-sized persons who were turned into dolls are not important? o,o wtf?
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4699872)
Hmm, maybe so. But I doubt that would lead them to Sabrina's "lair."

...how many ways are there to turn people into dolls, aside from psychic powers? >> And who has psychic powers strong enough to do so? Not your everyday neighbour, methinks.
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I had a feeling you were, even after you told me you weren't that time. xD

...0=) Well, I'm not the only psychic here, I know. (And when did I tell you I weren't? I was lying, I was lying!!! XD)

@Super Pichu: Of course you can join. ^_^ Nice picture, btw.

Crazy Packers Fan June 2nd, 2009 12:26 PM

You know, there are a lot of psychics in the Pokemon world, but Sabrina's the only one who turns people into dolls. Does that make her more evil, or just stronger than the rest?

Super Pichu June 2nd, 2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Packers Fan (Post 4708070)
You know, there are a lot of psychics in the Pokemon world, but Sabrina's the only one who turns people into dolls. Does that make her more evil, or just stronger than the rest?

I remember after you beat her she says something like everyone has pyschic powers, or was that Tate&Liza? >.<
EDIT: Nevermind! "Psychic power isn't something that only a few people have. Everyone has psychic power. People just don't realize it.""

Wyyrlokk June 2nd, 2009 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Pichu (Post 4708089)
I remember after you beat her she says something like everyone has pyschic powers, or was that Tate&Liza? >.<
EDIT: Nevermind! "Psychic power isn't something that only a few people have. Everyone has psychic power. People just don't realize it.""

That might be true, but she is for sure the strongest Psychic, because she trained her powers for years, since she was a child; and probably has the greatest psychic potential. Turning somebody in a doll assumes great powers, I guess.
@Crazy Packers Fan: Therefore, I think it's both a sign of her great powers and her evilness.

Alakazam17 June 3rd, 2009 5:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Pichu (Post 4706630)
I want to join please!

Welcome to the club, Super Pichu! :D

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...not if you don't even know half of the universes. >.<

Sure they can! And it's good advertising.

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...and real life-sized persons who were turned into dolls are not important? o,o wtf?

Not if the Jennies don't know that they were originally people.

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...how many ways are there to turn people into dolls, aside from psychic powers? >>

Well, you could perhaps mess with the controls of a Helmacron Laser and use some nuclear fusion to change the skin on a person's body into cloth, their innards into stuffing, and their height to no less than that of a teddy bear. And using teleportation technology, with a hint of mind control compound to keep the person's mind present in the thing. xD

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
And who has psychic powers strong enough to do so? Not your everyday neighbour, methinks.

Nope, of course not. That guy is a deuche.

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...0=) Well, I'm not the only psychic here, I know. (And when did I tell you I weren't? I was lying, I was lying!!! XD)

Nope, you aren't, XD. (And you told me that whenever I mentioned that I envision most people to look kind of like those in their avatars. At the time yours was of Sabrina, XD).

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Originally Posted by Crazy Packers Fan
You know, there are a lot of psychics in the Pokemon world, but Sabrina's the only one who turns people into dolls. Does that make her more evil, or just stronger than the rest?

Welcome back! :D

I think it just makes her stronger than the rest. I don't really see her as evil myself. Though of course, I am not a manga writer. =P

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Originally Posted by Super Pichu
I remember after you beat her she says something like everyone has pyschic powers, or was that Tate&Liza? >.<
EDIT: Nevermind! "Psychic power isn't something that only a few people have. Everyone has psychic power. People just don't realize it.""

Yes, classic Sabrina line. Yep, this is one of the reasons I fell in love with her. She always makes you think. =D

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk
That might be true, but she is for sure the strongest Psychic, because she trained her powers for years, since she was a child; and probably has the greatest psychic potential. Turning somebody in a doll assumes great powers, I guess.

Oh yes, she is definitely the strongest. Definitely stronger than a certain Elite who shall remain unmentioned at this time. X3

Crazy Packers Fan June 3rd, 2009 7:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk
That might be true, but she is for sure the strongest Psychic, because she trained her powers for years, since she was a child; and probably has the greatest psychic potential. Turning somebody in a doll assumes great powers, I guess.

Yeah, I guess that would mean she is the strongest, to have the doll ability. I wonder if she still used that ability after her return to normalcy post-Ash.

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4709850)
Oh yes, she is definitely the strongest. Definitely stronger than a certain Elite who shall remain unmentioned at this time. X3

Not even us Psychicshippers debate that fact.

Psychic*Absol June 3rd, 2009 8:56 AM

@CPF Sabrina's the only known psychic to turn people into dolls. There could be others. =3 And I doubt she 'lost' that ability, why should she? (No, even I don't debate that fact...after all, it's a important point in my current chapter...0=) )
@Wyyrlokk: Well, it's kinda hard to judge her powers without having a good reference (are there any other psychics, game-, manga- and animewise? I can only think of, kinda, Liza&Tate in the game and Anabell in the anime). But she seems to be one of the stronger ones, considering how that guy in the anime is frightened of her. No idea about game and magan, though. ^^;;;
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4709850)
Not if the Jennies don't know that they were originally people.

Oh, of course, out of 100 trainers, only 10 return, and they're emotionally scared because they were kidnapped by a mysterious jogger. No sign that something might be wrong with your gym, no, not at all. *g*
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4709850)
Well, you could perhaps mess with the controls of a Helmacron Laser and use some nuclear fusion to change the skin on a person's body into cloth, their innards into stuffing, and their height to no less than that of a teddy bear. And using teleportation technology, with a hint of mind control compound to keep the person's mind present in the thing. xD

...o,o Okay...call me again when I read that book about neurological biophysiology and atomic science.
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4709850)
Nope, of course not. That guy is a deuche.

XD!!!!!!!! Okay, maybe your neighbour is no psychic.
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4709850)
Yes, classic Sabrina line. Yep, this is one of the reasons I fell in love with her. She always makes you think. =D

...always make you think? WTF? I knew I was psychic before I met her (and fell in love with her, too). 0=)
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4709850)
Oh yes, she is definitely the strongest. Definitely stronger than a certain Elite who shall remain unmentioned at this time. X3

...sadly, even I cannot doubt this for the sake of my fanfic. >> Yet, we have no official confirmation. Wait until HG/SS! XD

Wyyrlokk June 3rd, 2009 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4710241)
@Wyyrlokk: Well, it's kinda hard to judge her powers without having a good reference (are there any other psychics, game-, manga- and animewise? I can only think of, kinda, Liza&Tate in the game and Anabell in the anime). But she seems to be one of the stronger ones, considering how that guy in the anime is frightened of her. No idea about game and magan, though. ^^;;;

There are some random Psychics in the game, which you battle quite often... ^^" But they seems to be used to capacity to levitate a Pokeball.
Will is no Psychic in the Manga, so there is really noone with decent power than her.

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Oh, of course, out of 100 trainers, only 10 return, and they're emotionally scared because they were kidnapped by a mysterious jogger. No sign that something might be wrong with your gym, no, not at all. *g*
I thought she let them free after a while... but while thinking about it, that would surely attract the police.

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XD!!!!!!!! Okay, maybe your neighbour is no psychic....
Would you like to live with a Psychic next door? *thinks of Ashleys Song*


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...sadly, even I cannot doubt this for the sake of my fanfic. >> Yet, we have no official confirmation. Wait until HG/SS! XD
Chances are good that there will be nothing about them in it... Which would be sad on one hand, but on the other hand it would be a victory for us, as you wouldn't get any hints for your theories.

Crazy Packers Fan June 3rd, 2009 3:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4711180)
Chances are good that there will be nothing about them in it... Which would be sad on one hand, but on the other hand it would be a victory for us, as you wouldn't get any hints for your theories.

One doesn't need hints to support a shipping, but any hints on them would of course be nice!

Wyyrlokk June 3rd, 2009 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Packers Fan (Post 4711620)
One doesn't need hints to support a shipping, but any hints on them would of course be nice!

It's easy for you to say, because you are a Psychicshipper too. x_x For Zammy and me it would be a cataclysm.

Alakazam17 June 3rd, 2009 8:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CPF
Yeah, I guess that would mean she is the strongest, to have the doll ability. I wonder if she still used that ability after her return to normalcy post-Ash.

I think she may have used it a few times, though not against just anyone. xD

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
Oh, of course, out of 100 trainers, only 10 return, and they're emotionally scared because they were kidnapped by a mysterious jogger. No sign that something might be wrong with your gym, no, not at all. *g*

Of course not. 0=)

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
...sadly, even I cannot doubt this for the sake of my fanfic. >> Yet, we have no official confirmation. Wait until HG/SS! XD

I don't need an official confirmation. I just know. =P

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk
There are some random Psychics in the game, which you battle quite often... ^^" But they seems to be used to capacity to levitate a Pokeball.
Will is no Psychic in the Manga, so there is really noone with decent power than her.

There must be tiny invisible strings holding the balls in place. Psychics are not that common. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk
Chances are good that there will be nothing about them in it... Which would be sad on one hand, but on the other hand it would be a victory for us, as you wouldn't get any hints for your theories.

That would be oh so awesome. :D

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Originally Posted by CPF
One doesn't need hints to support a shipping, but any hints on them would of course be nice!

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk
It's easy for you to say, because you are a Psychicshipper too. x_x For Zammy and me it would be a cataclysm.

What he said. =P

Psychic*Absol June 4th, 2009 9:00 AM

@Wyyrlokk
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There are some random Psychics in the game, which you battle quite often... ^^"
Well, a few psychics, but considering how many people *theoretically* live in the Pokemon world, these few psychics don't really make a mass.
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thought she let them free after a while... but while thinking about it, that would surely attract the police.
It's not certain that she let them free after a while. Why should she? Her mother apparently staid there for quite a while.
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Would you like to live with a Psychic next door? *thinks of Ashleys Song*
...haven't thought about that...*suspicious of neighbours XD*
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Which would be sad on one hand, but on the other hand it would be a victory for us, as you wouldn't get any hints for your theories.
Even a game with both of them in it is a hint for me. 0=) And yes, I am desparate.

@fellow Psychicshipper aka CPF
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One doesn't need hints to support a shipping, but any hints on them would of course be nice!
Completely agreed. ^^ (Otherwise, where are your Canadianshipping hints, dear Anti-Psychicshipper?

@The enemy, aka Anti-Psychicshipper, aka Zammy XD!!!
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I think she may have used it a few times, though not against just anyone. xD
Ah, so Ash was special? XD (Or in this case, rather Misty and Brock?)
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I don't need an official confirmation. I just know. =P
you do not know...there can be only *one* psychic in this club. >>
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There must be tiny invisible strings holding the balls in place. Psychics are not that common. ^_^
...for once, I even agree with you, o,o Though, again, this is the game universe, where things are a bit different. *g*

Wyyrlokk June 4th, 2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper (Post 4713709)
@Wyyrlokk
Well, a few psychics, but considering how many people *theoretically* live in the Pokemon world, these few psychics don't really make a mass.

Well... ok, you're right. Most Psychics you met in the gyms of Sabrina and Liza&Tate, so I guess they are their desciples.

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It's not certain that she let them free after a while. Why should she? Her mother apparently staid there for quite a while.
It's boring to play with the same toy over and over again. Her mother was... well, her mother. xD You know, some sort of family feelings...

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...haven't thought about that...*suspicious of neighbours XD*
At least in my neighbourhood I'm the crazy one. xD

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Even a game with both of them in it is a hint for me. 0=) And yes, I am desparate.
As long as you aren't a housewife the same time...
Honestly. A game with both of them? So Brock and Lt.Surge could have some affair, because they are so many games with both of them (B/R/Y/Fr/Lg/G/S/C)? >_< You have to admit that this isn't really an argument. They don't even live in the same city.

Psychic*Absol June 5th, 2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
Well... ok, you're right. Most Psychics you met in the gyms of Sabrina and Liza&Tate, so I guess they are their desciples.

*nods* Sabrina seems to have desciples game and anime wise (and she has some underlings in the manga), and Tate&Liza have game-wise, yet I wonder if the two aren't a bit too young...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
It's boring to play with the same toy over and over again.

...we're talking about an insane, living doll who likes to crush trainers with her play ball...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
Her mother was... well, her mother. xD You know, some sort of family feelings...

...family feelings? Sabrina did not have any feelings. >> Her father lived away from home! (Or at least that was hinted.)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
At least in my neighbourhood I'm the crazy one. xD

I guess I am too, but my neighbours don't know. 0=)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
As long as you aren't a housewife the same time...

*doesn't get it*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
Honestly. A game with both of them? So Brock and Lt.Surge could have some affair, because they are so many games with both of them (B/R/Y/Fr/Lg/G/S/C)?

Of course they are! XD It's Hedgeshipping! (Seriously, it is.)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
>_< You have to admit that this isn't really an argument.

XD I admit that it isn't really a hint. I was making fun, okay?
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4714307)
They don't even live in the same city.

That has never stopped love, you know....(Does Will live in a city?)
(<-- that, and your question in itself are, surprisingly, things that can, and should be asked about my fic as well. Little hints, ya know? 0=) )
(How I love teasing my readers...Zammy, BETA-READ!!!)

Wyyrlokk June 5th, 2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4717410)
*nods* Sabrina seems to have desciples game and anime wise (and she has some underlings in the manga), and Tate&Liza have game-wise, yet I wonder if the two aren't a bit too young...

Sabrina had incredible powers when she was a young chilod, so why shouldn't Tate & Liza have some deciples already?

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we're talking about an insane, living doll who likes to crush trainers with her play ball...
After she crushed the trainers, she might feel bored of them. xD And there are always new dolls to play with. Anyway, after Ash and the others escaped the first time, Sabrina accepted his second challenge without turning him into a doll directly. It's a hint to me that she might sometimes let trainers go, after she played with them.

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...family feelings? Sabrina did not have any feelings. >> Her father lived away from home! (Or at least that was hinted.)
In your story she had turned her mother into a doll 'cause of the remainings of that feelings (you know, "Discovering").

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I guess I am too, but my neighbours don't know. 0=)
Most of them seem to like me anyway, but they don't know... xD

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*doesn't get it*
Isn't there some awful TV-show called "desparate Housewifes" or something like that?

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Of course they are! XD It's Hedgeshipping! (Seriously, it is.)
Seriously. We have to talk about that - fast.

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That has never stopped love, you know....(Does Will live in a city?)
He lives in the League Headquarter. It's at least a... place. xD

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(<-- that, and your question in itself are, surprisingly, things that can, and should be asked about my fic as well. Little hints, ya know? 0=) )
(How I love teasing my readers...Zammy, BETA-READ!!!)
This time I don't really get it. xD

Psychic*Absol June 6th, 2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
Sabrina had incredible powers when she was a young chilod, so why shouldn't Tate & Liza have some deciples already?

I think you're mixing facts here. The only place where it was said that her powers were incredible strong when she was young was the anime (in both the game and manga, it is just said that she has the powers, not how strong she is), and Liza&Tate only have desciples in the game.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
After she crushed the trainers, she might feel bored of them. xD

XD But only the doll, the 'real' Sabrina had no feelings.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
And there are always new dolls to play with.

Unless her father managed to drive trainers away (I seem to recall that Gary had no Marsh Badge).
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
Anyway, after Ash and the others escaped the first time, Sabrina accepted his second challenge without turning him into a doll directly. It's a hint to me that she might sometimes let trainers go, after she played with them.

Call me dumb, but I don't get why this is a hint. o,o I might get it if you explain it a bit more detailed. ^^;;;;
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
In your story she had turned her mother into a doll 'cause of the remainings of that feelings (you know, "Discovering").

...how I hate it when readers use my own fics against me. >>
(Though I never said I write the 'truth' I believe in in my fics. XD)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
Isn't there some awful TV-show called "desparate Housewifes" or something like that?

*lightbulb* Yes, there is! XD Now I get the joke! lol
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
Seriously. We have to talk about that - fast.

*g* You could have talked to be about it today, you know...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
He lives in the League Headquarter. It's at least a... place. xD

*bursts out with laughter as she imagines the elite fours living in huts or similiar 'places'* XD
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4719710)
This time I don't really get it. xD

Distance never stopping love and the question where Will currently lives are hints about my fic, simple. 0=)

Wyyrlokk June 11th, 2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4721391)
I think you're mixing facts here. The only place where it was said that her powers were incredible strong when she was young was the anime (in both the game and manga, it is just said that she has the powers, not how strong she is), and Liza&Tate only have desciples in the game.

Well, being able to use Psychic power since being a small child is a hint of great potential and power to me.


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XD But only the doll, the 'real' Sabrina had no feelings.
In your story... she had... (look two posts above... xD)

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Unless her father managed to drive trainers away (I seem to recall that Gary had no Marsh Badge).
Well, some trainers might even won against her, I guess. xD And I don't think her father warned every trainer... at least Sabrina said something like "he's back" when he rescued Ash, so I interpret that in away that Ash was the only one who get rescued by her father.

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(Though I never said I write the 'truth' I believe in in my fics. XD)
You defended your theory about Dark Pokemon so vehement that I doubt you don't believe at least a part of it.

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Distance never stopping love and the question where Will currently lives are hints about my fic, simple. 0=)
Sometimes distance kills love. Anyway, in our time most relations break up, so not only a (possible) geographic distance might be the problem. =/

Crazy Packers Fan June 11th, 2009 1:33 PM

But keep in mind that distance is no problem for Sabrina, she can teleport wherever she wants. So she and Will can be together in a flash... thus her love can be as strong as they want it to be! (Or, as strong as P*A and I want it to be!)

Psychic*Absol June 12th, 2009 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
Well, being able to use Psychic power since being a small child is a hint of great potential and power to me.

...well, yes, that *could* be the truth, but again, we have not proof. We have no one to compare to her, either.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
In your story... she had... (look two posts above... xD)

Before she created the doll, she had emotions. After that, the emotions were stored in her doll. =3
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
Well, some trainers might even won against her, I guess. xD

I guess you're right, otherwise, the league would probably close Sabrina's gym. (Argh, I hate how you love to destroy these fangirlish fanatasies of mine! >.<)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
And I don't think her father warned every trainer... at least Sabrina said something like "he's back" when he rescued Ash, so I interpret that in away that Ash was the only one who get rescued by her father.

You can interpret that in the way "he's back" after who knows how many years of hiding somewhere (wild speculation here), or in the way "he's back" again for the tenth time, again rescuing some trainer. I think there ist room left for interpretation.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
You defended your theory about Dark Pokemon so vehement that I doubt you don't believe at least a part of it.

I liek to discuss, that's all. XD I make theories around Sabrina and her life and Pokemon in general, but sometimes, I make theories that even contradict each other just for the fun of it.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
Sometimes distance kills love.

Sometimes. But not always. And completely stopped has distance never, at least not from the first moment.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4739785)
Anyway, in our time most relations break up, so not only a (possible) geographic distance might be the problem. =/

...you do not say that because you *want* Sabrina to break up with Will in my fic, do you? >>

@CPF Oh, yes, my Sabrina can teleport too, but her powers may be limited. ;-)

Wyyrlokk June 19th, 2009 1:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4742919)
Before she created the doll, she had emotions. After that, the emotions were stored in her doll. =3

Anyway, her doll seems to live on its own, so her emotions are alive in some way.

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I guess you're right, otherwise, the league would probably close Sabrina's gym.
Why? Being so strong that nobody could beat you isn't a reason to close the gym in my eyes. The trainers just need to train more.
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(Argh, I hate how you love to destroy these fangirlish fanatasies of mine! >.<)
I love that face of you.

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You can interpret that in the way "he's back" after who knows how many years of hiding somewhere (wild speculation here), or in the way "he's back" again for the tenth time, again rescuing some trainer. I think there ist room left for interpretation.
Yes, but her surprise and something about her intonation make me think of the first point.


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...you do not say that because you *want* Sabrina to break up with Will in my fic, do you? >>
It wasn't my main intention, but I'm an Anti-PsychicShipper anyway... so it may inflict my way of thinking. =)

Psychic*Absol June 20th, 2009 8:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4763599)
Anyway, her doll seems to live on its own, so her emotions are alive in some way.

Her emotions are alive, indeed, but only in the doll, as you said yourself. The 'real' Sabrina, once again I repeat myself, had no feelings.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4763599)
Why? Being so strong that nobody could beat you isn't a reason to close the gym in my eyes.

Hm, might be, but in my eyes, a gym that is potentially dangerous and uber hard to beat is something the league might not like to see. Plus, a more or less obviously mentally affected gym leader...
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I love that face of you.

Geez, thanks. >> You have no photo of me yet! XD
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4763599)
Yes, but her surprise and something about her intonation make me think of the first point.

I didn't see any surprise there, and her voice was close to even imo. She sounded surprised when Ash 'quit' the gym match, but not when her father appeared (then, I'm talking about the English version, haven't listened to the German one in ages.)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4763599)
It wasn't my main intention, but I'm an Anti-PsychicShipper anyway... so it may inflict my way of thinking. =)

Good old biases, how I like them...>>...and so subtle, of course. XD

Crazy Packers Fan June 20th, 2009 2:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4766539)
Hm, might be, but in my eyes, a gym that is potentially dangerous and uber hard to beat is something the league might not like to see. Plus, a more or less obviously mentally affected gym leader...

Somehow I'd like to think the league would step in if they heard that opposing trainers were being turned into dolls.

Sorry I don't seem to post much here, it's just that over the past 3 years I've probably said every single thing possible there is to say about Sabrina... I can't think of much else to say.

Psychic*Absol June 21st, 2009 8:22 AM

XD It depends on if the leageu is *able* to hear about the trainers...maybe every Jenny that they send there (do they even send their officers to gyms or wasn't it the local Joy that had to do that job?) disappeared mysteriously...yet, even then, it would become a bit obvious that something *is* wrong. XD

Wyyrlokk June 21st, 2009 8:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4766539)
Her emotions are alive, indeed, but only in the doll, as you said yourself. The 'real' Sabrina, once again I repeat myself, had no feelings.

You couldn't separate the two of them. They belong together, being two parts of the same person.

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Hm, might be, but in my eyes, a gym that is potentially dangerous and uber hard to beat is something the league might not like to see. Plus, a more or less obviously mentally affected gym leader...
All in all, her gym might be hard, but not unbeatable. A hard-to-beat-gym couldn't be closed out of nothing - at least the gym challenge should be... well, challenging.
Was it so obvious that Sabrina was mentally affected? Not many seemed to care about then, at least nobody was shown in the episodes.

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Geez, thanks. >> You have no photo of me yet! XD
You're welcome.

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I didn't see any surprise there, and her voice was close to even imo. She sounded surprised when Ash 'quit' the gym match, but not when her father appeared (then, I'm talking about the English version, haven't listened to the German one in ages.)
I don't know the English version, so I spoke about the German one. Plus, my DVD (or maybe all available DVDs) have a problem when Ash "quit" that match, so I don't even know what she's saying that moment or with which intonation, only know *that* she say something. Would you please help me out?

Psychic*Absol June 22nd, 2009 6:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4772401)
You couldn't separate the two of them. They belong together, being two parts of the same person.

...you say it yourself. *Two parts*. Of course of the same person, but still two different parts. One has feelings, the other has not. It's that simple. =3
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4772401)
All in all, her gym might be hard, but not unbeatable.

Okay, I agree with this (though my fangirl heart bleeds...><)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4772401)
A hard-to-beat-gym couldn't be closed out of nothing - at least the gym challenge should be... well, challenging.

I'm talking about the, well, more *dumb* kind of trainers (not the Ash kind of dumb, though) which get irritated over the hardness of her gym. I may again be biased, but I think once these kids get their lawyers and say that the gym should be easier...after all, *theoretically*, Sabrina's gym could be taken as the fourth one (as Ash kindly showed us), so it should be beatable at that stadium of trainerhood. =3 At least some dumb kid might think so.
Another thing is....remember the dozens of trainers at the Indigo Torunament or whatever it was called in the anime? I doubt everyone of them has the Marsh Badge. And yet, the Marsh Badge seems to be one of the more or less official ones. And if a official badge is harder to get that one of the less-known ones...maybe the league doesn't like to see that? I'm not sure, I managed to confuse myself here. o,o
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4772401)
Was it so obvious that Sabrina was mentally affected? Not many seemed to care about then, at least nobody was shown in the episodes.

....she has psychic powers, that alone might make her 'crazy' for some people. >> And then, the doll, the voice, the attitude...maybe not 'mentally affected', but at least some kind of 'crazy'.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4772401)
I don't know the English version, so I spoke about the German one. Plus, my DVD (or maybe all available DVDs) have a problem when Ash "quit" that match, so I don't even know what she's saying that moment or with which intonation, only know *that* she say something. Would you please help me out?

XD No, no, you *heard* right. She doesn't say anything there in the German version. I guess they couldn't find a suiting translation for "quit" or "nani"...XD!!!!!

Wyyrlokk June 24th, 2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4773430)
...you say it yourself. *Two parts*. Of course of the same person, but still two different parts. One has feelings, the other has not. It's that simple. =3

If you say so...

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I'm talking about the, well, more *dumb* kind of trainers (not the Ash kind of dumb, though) which get irritated over the hardness of her gym. I may again be biased, but I think once these kids get their lawyers and say that the gym should be easier...after all, *theoretically*, Sabrina's gym could be taken as the fourth one (as Ash kindly showed us), so it should be beatable at that stadium of trainerhood. =3 At least some dumb kid might think so.
Well. I think of the Pokemon World in amore realistic way, first: Lawyers are expensive as hell, and trainer-kids usually wouldn't think of such a way. Second: To take a gym leader to court for loosing against him/her is in my eyes as effective as, say, bringing the SPD to court for loosing in the European Election even after giving your vote for them. ^^

Third, and most important: The level of the gym leader's Pokemon should be addicted to the challenger's. just like the Poke-Marts in Sinnoh: You are able to buy every item everywhere - if you have the right badges for it. So as a child or teenager from Vermilion City you should be able to start your gym leader's challenge with Lt.Surge as well, who would have Pokemon up to Lv.14 then instead of the harder Pokemon he would use against a more experienced trainer. So if a trainer enters a gym, some guy on the entrance should ask him/her how many badges he/she has, and that decided about the level of the gym leader's Pokemon. So you don't have to travel from Pallet Town to Pewter City to Cerulean City to Vermilion City etc. - which would be of course stupid if you are from Saffron, Lavender, Cinnabar or Fuchsia, but are able to take on the gyms as you wish to. After all, I don't see a use in such a prescribed route. A proof to that: the Kanto gym leaders in GSC are all on the same level when you challenge them. You have already 8 badges then, so they all go to their fullest.



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Another thing is....remember the dozens of trainers at the Indigo Torunament or whatever it was called in the anime? I doubt everyone of them has the Marsh Badge. And yet, the Marsh Badge seems to be one of the more or less official ones. And if a official badge is harder to get that one of the less-known ones...maybe the league doesn't like to see that? I'm not sure, I managed to confuse myself here. o,o
What? I would carefully make sure that the official badges *are* harder to get if I'm the Pokemon League's head. After all, the *official* ones are the more important ones, and they shouldn't become earned easy.

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....she has psychic powers, that alone might make her 'crazy' for some people. >> And then, the doll, the voice, the attitude...maybe not 'mentally affected', but at least some kind of 'crazy'.
Maybe, but her voice...? Don't see anything strange in it. After all, she definitely know how to act in public, and I also don't believe she would do something funny if League's clerks are around.

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XD No, no, you *heard* right. She doesn't say anything there in the German version. I guess they couldn't find a suiting translation for "quit" or "nani"...XD!!!!!
that's incredible stupid! After all, we see her lips moving, but she doesn't say a word! I hate the producers of the German Volume. -.- ("Vorbei!" would be fitting.)

Psychic*Absol June 26th, 2009 9:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4783159)
If you say so...

Yes, I *do* say so. XD!
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4783159)
Well. I think of the Pokemon World in amore realistic way, first: Lawyers are expensive as hell, and trainer-kids usually wouldn't think of such a way. Second: To take a gym leader to court for loosing against him/her is in my eyes as effective as, say, bringing the SPD to court for loosing in the European Election even after giving your vote for them. ^^

XD "Get your lazy thing up, Mr. Steinmeier, I wanna sue you!" Just kidding. Well, you're right, I have to admit. I mostly don't see teh Pokemon world as advanced as ours, or, well, at least *different* from ours, in the old "money wins all" way. Reasons why I make the gym leaders (and the elites!) filthy rich in a few, not all, of my stories.

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4783159)
Third, and most important: The level of the gym leader's Pokemon should be addicted to the challenger's. just like the Poke-Marts in Sinnoh: You are able to buy every item everywhere - if you have the right badges for it. So as a child or teenager from Vermilion City you should be able to start your gym leader's challenge with Lt.Surge as well, who would have Pokemon up to Lv.14 then instead of the harder Pokemon he would use against a more experienced trainer. So if a trainer enters a gym, some guy on the entrance should ask him/her how many badges he/she has, and that decided about the level of the gym leader's Pokemon. So you don't have to travel from Pallet Town to Pewter City to Cerulean City to Vermilion City etc. - which would be of course stupid if you are from Saffron, Lavender, Cinnabar or Fuchsia, but are able to take on the gyms as you wish to. After all, I don't see a use in such a prescribed route. A proof to that: the Kanto gym leaders in GSC are all on the same level when you challenge them. You have already 8 badges then, so they all go to their fullest.

....somehow, I get a new idea from this...what would happen if a gym leader doesn't figh a kid with the *proper* level? For example, if a new startign trainer with his Lv. 9 Charmander has to fight a Lv. 40 Starmie, or something? Wouldn't the gym leader get in trouble then? =3 Maybe that's what Sabrina did to Ash...Nevermind that she still had an Abra back then...
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4783159)
What? I would carefully make sure that the official badges *are* harder to get if I'm the Pokemon League's head. After all, the *official* ones are the more important ones, and they shouldn't become earned easy.

I think it depends on how the League works and what it wants. You have to imagine, somehow, the league has to finance itself. The badges don't come from nothing. So, if everything works *game-wise*, the league gets the money of the trainers when they loose, right? And this would mean that strong gyms= good, because they get a lot of money, right? Well, while I think this is right, it is also possible that this would drive weaker trainers to the unofficial gyms (which, for this example, I define as being easier than the normal gyms) and the trainers would win their badges there, and STILL get to the league tournament. See:
Trainer goes to first (strong) official gym, loses, trainer loses money, league gets money--> he goes to unofficial gyms, wins, doesn't lose money, league gets no money, but the trainer still competes in tournament, which, I assume, costs money.--> league doesn't get money from the trainer, but still has to pay for his league fights

Of course, this theory is debatable. If the official gyms are harder, some trainers might get the courage to battle then more than once, and so, the league gets a lot of money from them, but there are also the trainers who just want to *get through* a league and compete in a tournament, and these would, of course, choose the weaker gyms right away.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4783159)
Maybe, but her voice...? Don't see anything strange in it. After all, she definitely know how to act in public, and I also don't believe she would do something funny if League's clerks are around.

In the English version it's complete emotionsless and stoic. I love it. =3 Not the German one so much. >>
Hm, you might be right. But then, Sabrina did seem to be pretty cruel and uncaring... (see the guy she [or rather, the doll] tortured...)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4783159)
that's incredible stupid! After all, we see her lips moving, but she doesn't say a word! I hate the producers of the German Volume. -.- ("Vorbei!" would be fitting.)

XD!!! I was also *very* confused the first time I saw her move her lips without saying anything, but by now, I know the dubbers well enough. (And 'vorbei'? I don't get it, why should it be fitting? Oo)

Alakazam17 June 26th, 2009 5:27 PM

Oh Jeez, I haven't posted here in ages. And due to my inherent laziness, I may not be reading everything that I missed. xD

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Somehow I'd like to think the league would step in if they heard that opposing trainers were being turned into dolls.

I suppose they would. But then again, what if Lance likes to play with dolls? X3

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Sorry I don't seem to post much here, it's just that over the past 3 years I've probably said every single thing possible there is to say about Sabrina... I can't think of much else to say.

XD Ditto. We mostly just talk about fics though anyway, heh. And speaking of which, my inherent laziness is keeping me from quite a few of those. Including my own. >_<

And congrats on your 1000th post! :D

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk
Third, and most important: The level of the gym leader's Pokemon should be addicted to the challenger's. just like the Poke-Marts in Sinnoh: You are able to buy every item everywhere - if you have the right badges for it. So as a child or teenager from Vermilion City you should be able to start your gym leader's challenge with Lt.Surge as well, who would have Pokemon up to Lv.14 then instead of the harder Pokemon he would use against a more experienced trainer. So if a trainer enters a gym, some guy on the entrance should ask him/her how many badges he/she has, and that decided about the level of the gym leader's Pokemon. So you don't have to travel from Pallet Town to Pewter City to Cerulean City to Vermilion City etc. - which would be of course stupid if you are from Saffron, Lavender, Cinnabar or Fuchsia, but are able to take on the gyms as you wish to. After all, I don't see a use in such a prescribed route. A proof to that: the Kanto gym leaders in GSC are all on the same level when you challenge them. You have already 8 badges then, so they all go to their fullest.

That is exactly how I see it as well. Twas how I always imagined Sabrina's journey to be like, back when I traced her 'would-be' steps in my Silver Version. xD

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
....somehow, I get a new idea from this...what would happen if a gym leader doesn't figh a kid with the *proper* level? For example, if a new startign trainer with his Lv. 9 Charmander has to fight a Lv. 40 Starmie, or something? Wouldn't the gym leader get in trouble then? =3 Maybe that's what Sabrina did to Ash...Nevermind that she still had an Abra back then...

Hmm, interesting idea. And I could see Sabrina doing that. :P

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Shipper
In the English version it's complete emotionsless and stoic. I love it. =3 Not the German one so much. >>

Never seen the German one, but I'll have to agree with you about the English.

And in other news...Chapter Twenty-Two of Multiverse Chronicles is up! And while there isn't any SHIRONA!!! or references to BlackVelvet-Shipping, there is some PsychicShippy stuff jumping around. lol

Psychic*Absol June 27th, 2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4792179)
I suppose they would. But then again, what if Lance likes to play with dolls? X3

...you just gave me an amazing idea for Spring's Revenge. XD! (It will fit *so* well into it, with Lance's fingernails already being coloured...;-) )
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And congrats on your 1000th post! :D

*nods* Congrats from me, too! (And Zammy, please stop posting, I wanna beat you again. >>)
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4792179)
Hmm, interesting idea. And I could see Sabrina doing that. :P

Not to Will hopefully. >.<...wasn't it her doll that demanded fairness in the anime?
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4792179)
And in other news...Chapter Twenty-Two of Multiverse Chronicles is up! And while there isn't any SHIRONA!!! or references to BlackVelvet-Shipping, there is some PsychicShippy stuff jumping around. lol

I noticed. I noticed....=3 And again, it proved my (and your) point: You can write things perfectly as long as you don't support them! XD!!!
Review will come later, as soon as I finished the first part of CPF's review and I printed out the 8193810 scripts for Monday. >.<

Alakazam17 June 27th, 2009 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4794581)
...you just gave me an amazing idea for Spring's Revenge. XD! (It will fit *so* well into it, with Lance's fingernails already being coloured...;-) )

Hmm, now I'm intrigued. *wonders what you're going to do*

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4794581)
*nods* Congrats from me, too! (And Zammy, please stop posting, I wanna beat you again. >>)

*shakes head* No, I shall not! :P

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4794581)
Not to Will hopefully. >.<...wasn't it her doll that demanded fairness in the anime?

Hmm, I actually don't know. ;_;

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4794581)
I noticed. I noticed....=3 And again, it proved my (and your) point: You can write things perfectly as long as you don't support them! XD!!!

Ummm...no comment. lol

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4794581)
Review will come later, as soon as I finished the first part of CPF's review and I printed out the 8193810 scripts for Monday. >.<

Okay. Good luck with all the printing! xD

Noel June 27th, 2009 5:48 PM

Sabrina is cool! With the psy pokemon! You know!

Alakazam17 June 27th, 2009 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Noel (Post 4796131)
Sabrina is cool! With the psy pokemon! You know!

Heyo, Noel. I haven't seen you around here before, so welcome! :D

And I'll have to agree with you there. Sabrina is very cool. And hawt. xD

Noel June 27th, 2009 6:02 PM

I want to be able to bend a spoon like her.. I sat in my room for an hour once staring at a spoon, but nothing happened :(

Psychic*Absol June 28th, 2009 10:28 AM

Heheh, welcome, Noel! Nice to see that we get some new members from time to time. ^^ And heheh, I *was* able to bend a spoon once...during a show with Uri Geller...but I might just have been fooling myself and it was just physical power or something...>>
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4796124)
Hmm, now I'm intrigued. *wonders what you're going to do*

Not telling. XD Cuz I didn't write it yet, so it's subject to change. XD! And beta-read faster, please. =3
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4796124)
*shakes head* No, I shall not! :P

*gets out the ductype (sp?) she had used for Wyyrlokk* Hm, he's still speechless, so it seems to work...
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4796124)
Hmm, I actually don't know. ;_;

Then rewatch the episodes, plzthnx. =3
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4796124)
Ummm...no comment. lol

Oh, when you're done with beta-reading, write your psychicshipping fic, now, will you? ^.~

Alakazam17 June 28th, 2009 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4798771)
Heheh, welcome, Noel! Nice to see that we get some new members from time to time. ^^ And heheh, I *was* able to bend a spoon once...during a show with Uri Geller...but I might just have been fooling myself and it was just physical power or something...>>

Wow, you've both tried bending spoons, and yet I never have. I just kind of assumed it wouldn't work....xD

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4798771)
Not telling. XD Cuz I didn't write it yet, so it's subject to change. XD! And beta-read faster, please. =3

Yes, ma'am. =P

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4798771)
*gets out the ductype (sp?) she had used for Wyyrlokk* Hm, he's still speechless, so it seems to work...

I believe you mean duct tape, P*A. But it won't work on me anyway. >=D

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4798771)
Then rewatch the episodes, plzthnx. =3

Fabulous idea! :D

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4798771)
Oh, when you're done with beta-reading, write your psychicshipping fic, now, will you? ^.~

I'll more than likely be reading CPF's fic and/or writing mine though. *hides*

Crazy Packers Fan June 28th, 2009 10:36 PM

Another potential reader to my story? Wow, this is amazing. You and Wyyrlokk could almost double my current readership (which I'm pretty sure is 3). Then again, you may not be too happy with the way Sabrina is portrayed, as I've emphasized her weaknesses much more than in the past.

Psychic*Absol June 29th, 2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4799753)
Wow, you've both tried bending spoons, and yet I never have. I just kind of assumed it wouldn't work....xD

...you're an Alakazam and you assume it would not work? WTF? You freaking carry spoons with you, and these are not for eating ice cream!XD
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Yes, ma'am. =P

XD Hurry up!
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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4799753)
I believe you mean duct tape, P*A. But it won't work on me anyway. >=D

....why, may I ask? >>

@CPF: He may even like it even less, 'cause, you know, it's Psychicshipping. ^.~

Wyyrlokk June 30th, 2009 12:17 PM

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Hm, he's still speechless, so it seems to work...
If I want to, I would use my telepatic ability to speak to you anyway. *g*


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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4803277)
...you're an Alakazam and you assume it would not work? WTF? You freaking carry spoons with you, and these are not for eating ice cream!XD

Is it for soup then?


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@CPF: He may even like it even less, 'cause, you know, it's Psychicshipping. ^.~
Doesn't Will cheat on her many times in that fiction? That's a thing I like. xD (No, not to be unfaithful in common, but anything that could lead to a breakup between *them* is good (for me).)


@ our discussion:
Yes, she is cruel, but not stupid. If a higher authority is nearby, I don't believe she would do something like turning somebody into a doll in front of his eyes. She's far too intelligent and rational for that.

Meh, I couldn't see why the League would get more money if the official gyms are weaker. Then the trainers beat them with the first try, and there's no money too. Besides, don't forget the trophy money for the winner and the fee for the leader himself. But I see the League as the highest authority of the region, able to rule the whole country. So I don't think they could run out of money anyway... but of course the easiest way would be to disallow entering the League without the official badges. All problems solved. xD

Psychic*Absol July 1st, 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4807671)
If I want to, I would use my telepatic ability to speak to you anyway. *g*

You should again, you know...*nods to MSN*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4807671)
Is it for soup then?

No, it's for playing the drums! XD!!!
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Doesn't Will cheat on her many times in that fiction? That's a thing I like. xD (No, not to be unfaithful in common, but anything that could lead to a breakup between *them* is good (for me).)

...yes, he does. >> Is no fiction of mine and thus, not idea of mine either. >> (Offtopic: Found the first Will-centered fic on ff.net today. And it's like "Spring's Revenge" and "Mirrors" mixed together, minus the psychicshipping [;_______;] factor)
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4807671)
Yes, she is cruel, but not stupid. If a higher authority is nearby, I don't believe she would do something like turning somebody into a doll in front of his eyes. She's far too intelligent and rational for that.

Agreed on this (though I would argue if she really cared about the authorities- could turn them into dolls, too).
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4807671)
But I see the League as the highest authority of the region, able to rule the whole country. So I don't think they could run out of money anyway...

Agreed, again. XD *points to fanfics and Lance's attitude*
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4807671)
but of course the easiest way would be to disallow entering the League without the official badges. All problems solved. xD

But then, you may have the problem of only a few trainers entering the league (because not all could win the badges) and/or overflowing gyms because everyone wants to battle the gym leader (possible multiple times).

Wyyrlokk July 1st, 2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4811452)
You should again, you know...*nods to MSN*

I'm online on MSN every evening. oO

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...yes, he does. >> Is no fiction of mine and thus, not idea of mine either. >> (Offtopic: Found the first Will-centered fic on ff.net today. And it's like "Spring's Revenge" and "Mirrors" mixed together, minus the psychicshipping [;_______;] factor)
See? PsychicShipping is *not* natural. Even Will himself doesn't really care about it. xD
By the way, what's "mirrors"?

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Agreed on this (though I would argue if she really cared about the authorities- could turn them into dolls, too).
Come on. She could turn the whole world into a dollhouse, remaining as the last human on earth. @@" If she attacks a member of the League that way, she would be really in trouble, and she knows that for sure.

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But then, you may have the problem of only a few trainers entering the league (because not all could win the badges) and/or overflowing gyms because everyone wants to battle the gym leader (possible multiple times).
1. Battles of high-skilled trainers, even if there are only a few of them, would attract more people as visitors than a huge tournament of bug-catchers.
2. Overflowing gyms wouldn't be that bad, would they? Look at the PokeSpecs - in the end of the Silver Arc just that situation was created by the League. And they would win much money for sure, because many would fail to win on the first run.

Psychic*Absol July 5th, 2009 9:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4811770)
I'm online on MSN every evening. oO

...you appear offline to me. o,o
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See? PsychicShipping is *not* natural. Even Will himself doesn't really care about it. xD

...sorry if I don't get it, but in what kind of way is that proof for its non-existing unnaturalness?
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By the way, what's "mirrors"?

A fic of mine and I'm fairly sure I either told you about it or even send it to you.
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Come on. She could turn the whole world into a dollhouse, remaining as the last human on earth. @@"

...you just gave me a fic idea. =3
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If she attacks a member of the League that way, she would be really in trouble, and she knows that for sure.

That depends on if the league notices it and if Sabrina really cares about it (though the latter is obvious, I suppose she didn't defeat the fighting dojo for their gym title for nothing).
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1. Battles of high-skilled trainers, even if there are only a few of them, would attract more people as visitors than a huge tournament of bug-catchers.

Come on, no bug-catcher will make it to the later rounds. So at first, it may be less interesting, but no matter what, the later battles and the finals are going to be more interesting depending on how many people enter. Finding the best when you only have ten trainers is not as interesting as finding the best out of 1,000. =3
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2. Overflowing gyms wouldn't be that bad, would they? Look at the PokeSpecs - in the end of the Silver Arc just that situation was created by the League.

Sorry, didn't know about that, because I don't have the manga. Want to elaborate? =3

Wyyrlokk July 5th, 2009 12:41 PM

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...sorry if I don't get it, but in what kind of way is that proof for its non-existing unnaturalness?

If PsychicShipping is natural, of course Will should not even have the *option* by himself *not* to choose Sabrina as his wife - and he would never have any intention to cheat on her. But he does in so many fivtions that PsychicShipping just couldn't be as natural as you want to see it.

By the way, I never understood why you want to see Sabrina with Will of all the guys out there. Only because he is a Psychic (maybe)?


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A fic of mine and I'm fairly sure I either told you about it or even send it to you.
I'm fairly sure you did neither this nor that.

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...you just gave me a fic idea. =3
No comment.

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That depends on if the league notices it and if Sabrina really cares about it (though the latter is obvious, I suppose she didn't defeat the fighting dojo for their gym title for nothing).
Come on, think logical. y_y If a (high-ranked) worker of the League suddenly disappeared (maybe while he was looking for some disappeared persons in Saffronia), wouldn't the League set off all available men to clear up that case? It would be far too dangerous for Sabrina - she is intelligent enough *not* to risk her future, her position or even her life just for the fun of her doll.

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Come on, no bug-catcher will make it to the later rounds. So at first, it may be less interesting, but no matter what, the later battles and the finals are going to be more interesting depending on how many people enter. Finding the best when you only have ten trainers is not as interesting as finding the best out of 1,000. =3
Really? 1000 trainers? That means, out of another Pokemon comic - "1000 trainers start to train Pokemon each year. Only 200 of them become real Pro-trainers, and only 20 manage to stay in the League for more than five seasons." So most of the battles will be boring. Only the rounds with the high-skilled ones are interesting. Would you like to see the football world cup with games like Germany - St.Kitts? That's what a qualification is for - to take out the ones who doesn't deserve to take part.


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Sorry, didn't know about that, because I don't have the manga. Want to elaborate? =3
In Pokespec, every trainer was allowed to take part in the tournament. But in the Silver arc the Director of the League decided to let all trainers who managed to win all 8 badges of Kanto or Johto taking part on the final rounds unconditionally (which means they are allowed to skip the prelim rounds). He does it for making the badges again a symbol of bravery, strongness and skill, after they were abused by the evil forces of Team Rocket and the Elite Four.
It was henced that the gyms were flooted by challengers after that new regulation was passed. In Hoenn, Roxanne even had so many challengers that she let them all pass a test and only fought against the one with the best result.

Crazy Packers Fan July 5th, 2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4820553)
By the way, I never understood why you want to see Sabrina with Will of all the guys out there. Only because he is a Psychic (maybe)?

That's the reason I chose them to go together, after realizing how cute it was for them to talk to each other telepathically, as well as having the dynamic of Sabrina being the stronger of the two.

We've gone through lists of other shippings for Sabrina in the past, and the only other one I approve of is Gary x Sabrina.

Psychic*Absol July 6th, 2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4820553)
If PsychicShipping is natural, of course Will should not even have the *option* by himself *not* to choose Sabrina as his wife - and he would never have any intention to cheat on her. But he does in so many fivtions that PsychicShipping just couldn't be as natural as you want to see it.

So what? Many people see PokeShipping as natural (I certainly don't. x,x), yet in many fics, Ash cheats on her. Heck, in how many 'real-life' relationships, people were cheated on and still the relationship seemed to be natural? Cheating cannot be always avoided, though it is, of course, not good. And, you have to agree, in my fic, Will didn't really have a chance to avoid the cheating and in CPF's...well, he either has not much of a chance either or it is understandable. XD
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By the way, I never understood why you want to see Sabrina with Will of all the guys out there. Only because he is a Psychic (maybe)?

From all the guys in the Pokemon world, Will is the only one I can see that fits Sabrina. Not because he's psychic- he was not even psychic in my fic, remember? There cannot be said much about his character, at least game-wise, but from his looks, he seems like a caring, naive, gentle and nice gentlemam and that is the type of man I can see to get liked by Sabrina. I interprete much into him, I know. But comparing my interpretation to the other male members of the league, and I still see him being the best out of all of them. I mean, just compare Will so someone like Surge or Brock and you get what I mean....>>
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I'm fairly sure you did neither this nor that.

My apologies, I'll post it here sometime. ^.~
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No comment.

What, not interested in my fic idea? XD
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Come on, think logical. y_y If a (high-ranked) worker of the League suddenly disappeared (maybe while he was looking for some disappeared persons in Saffronia), wouldn't the League set off all available men to clear up that case? It would be far too dangerous for Sabrina - she is intelligent enough *not* to risk her future, her position or even her life just for the fun of her doll.

XD I am not able to think logically and we're talking about the world where Jessie and James can walk around with their Rocket Shirts unnoticed even by police officers!!! The Pokemon world is kinda blind to crime.
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Really? 1000 trainers? That means, out of another Pokemon comic - "1000 trainers start to train Pokemon each year. Only 200 of them become real Pro-trainers, and only 20 manage to stay in the League for more than five seasons." So most of the battles will be boring. Only the rounds with the high-skilled ones are interesting. Would you like to see the football world cup with games like Germany - St.Kitts? That's what a qualification is for - to take out the ones who doesn't deserve to take part.

Sorry,I did not read said comic (I suppose I didn't), and 1000 was just to underline my point. >> I was not seriously considering 1000 trainers, but, let's say, 300? That way, we would still have around 8-9 rounds and think that would be a nice number. =3
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In Pokespec, every trainer was allowed to take part in the tournament. But in the Silver arc the Director of the League decided to let all trainers who managed to win all 8 badges of Kanto or Johto taking part on the final rounds unconditionally (which means they are allowed to skip the prelim rounds). He does it for making the badges again a symbol of bravery, strongness and skill, after they were abused by the evil forces of Team Rocket and the Elite Four.
It was henced that the gyms were flooted by challengers after that new regulation was passed. In Hoenn, Roxanne even had so many challengers that she let them all pass a test and only fought against the one with the best result.

Thanks. ^^ Though I see now, I have read parts of this, just, kinda,forgot about it. XD I'm ust thinking...we had several cases of gym leaders abandoning their gyms now (in Hoenn and especially in Sinnoh)....shouldn't the league be a bit annoyed by this by now? I didn't really see any sign of gym leaders being investigated because they're missing during *this* season. Earlier seasons, yes.
And now I'm wondering why I mentioned this...had something to do with the number of trainers....

Wyyrlokk July 7th, 2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4824359)
So what? Many people see PokeShipping as natural (I certainly don't. x,x), yet in many fics, Ash cheats on her. Heck, in how many 'real-life' relationships, people were cheated on and still the relationship seemed to be natural? Cheating cannot be always avoided, though it is, of course, not good. And, you have to agree, in my fic, Will didn't really have a chance to avoid the cheating and in CPF's...well, he either has not much of a chance either or it is understandable. XD
From all the guys in the Pokemon world, Will is the only one I can see that fits Sabrina. Not because he's psychic- he was not even psychic in my fic, remember? There cannot be said much about his character, at least game-wise, but from his looks, he seems like a caring, naive, gentle and nice gentlemam and that is the type of man I can see to get liked by Sabrina. I interprete much into him, I know. But comparing my interpretation to the other male members of the league, and I still see him being the best out of all of them. I mean, just compare Will so someone like Surge or Brock and you get what I mean....>>

Surge seemed to be very close to Sabrina in the PokeSpec. Luckily they were more partners in crime than a real couple. x_x

Well, don't think of the Pokemon World as a place were only the 200 people of the games live. I guess there are many more fitting guys out there - but we might argue about that. Why do you think Sabrina like naive gentlemen?

And I really hope you're not thinking of my beloved Pokespec Sabrina in that way, too. *angry mode*
(Let's go back to our arrangement - anime-Sabrina to you, Pokespec Sabrina to me, and everybody will be happy. ^^)


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My apologies, I'll post it here sometime. ^.~
That would be a great idea.

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What, not interested in my fic idea? XD
If I want to have some madness to disturb my brain, I could talk to my sister. xD

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XD I am not able to think logically and we're talking about the world where Jessie and James can walk around with their Rocket Shirts unnoticed even by police officers!!! The Pokemon world is kinda blind to crime.
But Lance isn't.

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Sorry, I did not read said comic (I suppose I didn't), and 1000 was just to underline my point. >> I was not seriously considering 1000 trainers, but, let's say, 300? That way, we would still have around 8-9 rounds and think that would be a nice number. =3
Me neither, and in that comic it were 1000 trainers a year. Of course, that number could be rounded so that the calculation of percentage is easier.
Don't forget that Goldenrod City and Saffron City might be as big as Berlin, so only 1000 trainers a year is quite a little number.

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Thanks. ^^ Though I see now, I have read parts of this, just, kinda,forgot about it. XD I'm ust thinking...we had several cases of gym leaders abandoning their gyms now (in Hoenn and especially in Sinnoh)....shouldn't the league be a bit annoyed by this by now? I didn't really see any sign of gym leaders being investigated because they're missing during *this* season. Earlier seasons, yes.
And now I'm wondering why I mentioned this...had something to do with the number of trainers....
Well, Norman got a reprehension by Winona for being absent. Don't know about Sinnoh yet, but game-wise only the Ghost trainer was absent a while. In Platinum she is not, but there are other gym leaders walking around the land.

Or are you talking about that anime again? xD

Psychic*Absol July 7th, 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4828018)
Surge seemed to be very close to Sabrina in the PokeSpec. Luckily they were more partners in crime than a real couple. x_x

Don't you start celebrating yet, I *have* seen AntagonistShipping Fics.
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Well, don't think of the Pokemon World as a place were only the 200 people of the games live.

I don't, either, but these about 200 are the only ones we know.
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I guess there are many more fitting guys out there

There might be, but again, we don't know them.
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- but we might argue about that.

We indeed might. XD
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Why do you think Sabrina like naive gentlemen?

Because I think of her as being very noble, not snobbish, but noble and highly educated. And I can't see her with macho-like men like Surge. She would rather go with the shy guys, because around love, I consider her to by quite shy and unsure, too. Someone who is just as uncertain as her, someone who can understand her difficulties, fits her quite well. ^^
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And I really hope you're not thinking of my beloved Pokespec Sabrina in that way, too. *angry mode*

Nah, I pair PokeSpec Sabrina with Giovanni. ;-)
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(Let's go back to our arrangement - anime-Sabrina to you, Pokespec Sabrina to me, and everybody will be happy. ^^)

Not everyone. *points to Zammy and CPF*
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But Lance isn't.

And Lance is not the police.
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Don't forget that Goldenrod City and Saffron City might be as big as Berlin, so only 1000 trainers a year is quite a little number.

I'm not sure. The cities appeared quite small to me, and I'm not talking about the game.
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Or are you talking about that anime again? xD

Eh, actually, I was. XD

Alakazam17 July 7th, 2009 11:22 AM

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(Let's go back to our arrangement - anime-Sabrina to you, Pokespec Sabrina to me, and everybody will be happy. ^^)

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Not everyone. *points to Zammy and CPF*

I'll claim game-Sabrina, then. Which leaves trading-card-Sabrina for CPF. XD!

And haha, I finished the beta-reading! And I've also posted a new chapter of Multiverse Chronicles. Though, unfortunately for y'all, Sabrina only has a small appearance in it. =P

Wyyrlokk July 7th, 2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4828193)
I'll claim game-Sabrina, then. Which leaves trading-card-Sabrina for CPF. XD!

And haha, I finished the beta-reading! And I've also posted a new chapter of Multiverse Chronicles. Though, unfortunately for y'all, Sabrina only has a small appearance in it. =P

I agree to this arrangement. And CPF has Cynthia, so he will be happy anyway, I guess.

I'm going to read it as fast as possible. xD







Back to our discussion, P*A.

1. There are stories with humanxPokemon, so I don't wonder about it. I'm sure BrockxSabrina, LancexSabrina, TatexSabrina, GuardevoirxSabrina etcetctetc all exist. I'm not even want to think about that.

2. Well. If you think of the few we know, I see your point. Your interpretation of her... is good. I have to admit. You're right, I guess.

3. You better don't dare to do that. xD We had a discussion about Giovanni and her already. Stay with the anime-Sabrina for pairings, plz. ^^

4. Why are the citys small? The Pokemon world is based on the real world - I have a link to prove it - and all towns seem to exist in the real world, too. Think of how big the population in Japan is... 1000 trainers *is* a small number. But if you take the best 300 out of this number, you'll definitely get the best trainers for the tournament, which would be, of course, a great show.

Crazy Packers Fan July 10th, 2009 9:29 PM

You can have Sabrina. Cynthia's mine!

Psychic*Absol July 11th, 2009 1:36 AM

@Zammy
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I'll claim game-Sabrina, then. Which leaves trading-card-Sabrina for CPF. XD!
Isn't game Sabrina = TG Sabrina? Oh, well, shouldn't concern me, it's you and CPF fighting...0=)
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And I've also posted a new chapter of Multiverse Chronicles.
>.< And I still couldn't write the review! *head hangs down in shame*

@Wyyrlokk
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There are stories with humanxPokemon, so I don't wonder about it. I'm sure BrockxSabrina, LancexSabrina, TatexSabrina, GuardevoirxSabrina etcetctetc all exist. I'm not even want to think about that.
Let' see, I have read Brock x Sabrina (several times), I have read Lance x Sabrina (several times) and I have read...Kadabra x Sabrina. Don't want to talk about it. x,x
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Well. If you think of the few we know, I see your point. Your interpretation of her... is good. I have to admit. You're right, I guess.
^.^ *happy dance* You like my interpretation of her! (And I'm right, yeah!XD) At least something we can agree on, reagarding shipping and her. ^.~
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You better don't dare to do that. xD We had a discussion about Giovanni and her already. Stay with the anime-Sabrina for pairings, plz. ^^
-_- Pairing anime-Sabrina with anime-Giovanni is not as interesting as pairing manga-Sabrina with manga-Giovanni. Besides, anime-wise, I certainly prefer Will. (And HG/SS gives me slight hope that he might [finally] appear in the anime...)
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Why are the citys small? The Pokemon world is based on the real world - I have a link to prove it - and all towns seem to exist in the real world, too. Think of how big the population in Japan is... 1000 trainers *is* a small number. But if you take the best 300 out of this number, you'll definitely get the best trainers for the tournament, which would be, of course, a great show.
I *know* that the Pokemon world is, to some extent based on our own, but I kinda always had the impression that it has to be smaller. Okay, maybe I was influenced too much by the game (and seriously, the game towns are ridicously small), and in the manga, it lokks kinda similar (Saffron doesn't look to be much bigger than my home town from above o,o).

@CPF
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You can have Sabrina. Cynthia's mine!
XD Okay, guys, TG-Sabrina is free again. Anyone wanna claim her? lol

Wyyrlokk July 11th, 2009 12:12 PM

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@Zammy

@Wyyrlokk
Let' see, I have read Brock x Sabrina (several times), I have read Lance x Sabrina (several times) and I have read...Kadabra x Sabrina. Don't want to talk about it. x,x

Where do you get such freaky stories? x_x And who writes them? (seems to be either a pervert or somebody who wants to torture me... lol)

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^.^ *happy dance* You like my interpretation of her! (And I'm right, yeah!XD) At least something we can agree on, reagarding shipping and her. ^.~
Anime-Sabrina. Your interpretation is for Anime-Sabrina only. Manga-Sabrina is different, I guess.

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-_- Pairing anime-Sabrina with anime-Giovanni is not as interesting as pairing manga-Sabrina with manga-Giovanni. Besides, anime-wise, I certainly prefer Will. (And HG/SS gives me slight hope that he might [finally] appear in the anime...)
But, as we decided, Manga-Sabrina is mine. So *you* don't pair her with anyone and *I* don't say anything against Psychicshipping (with Anime-Sabrina), ok?

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I *know* that the Pokemon world is, to some extent based on our own, but I kinda always had the impression that it has to be smaller. Okay, maybe I was influenced too much by the game (and seriously, the game towns are ridicously small), and in the manga, it lokks kinda similar (Saffron doesn't look to be much bigger than my home town from above o,o).
Maybe you're right. But there are still more people in the manga than in the game.

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Okay, guys, TG-Sabrina is free again. Anyone wanna claim her? lol
I guess TCG-Sabrina *is* Game-Sabrina, because her images are based on the artwork for the game. And honestly, there are about 7 cards with her - that's not enough to let anyone claim it, isn't it?`(And CPF has Cynthia, so we are all happy with the one we wanted to have...)

Psychic*Absol July 12th, 2009 9:21 AM

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Where do you get such freaky stories? x_x And who writes them? (seems to be either a pervert or somebody who wants to torture me... lol)

Fanfiction.net and I site I forgot. And, sorries, I do not know the persons who write them personally. *lol*
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But, as we decided, Manga-Sabrina is mine. So *you* don't pair her with anyone and *I* don't say anything against Psychicshipping (with Anime-Sabrina), ok?

I CAN PAIR MANGA-SABRINA WITH EVERYONE I WANT TO!!! 8D (*mad Absol mood*)
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Maybe you're right. But there are still more people in the manga than in the game.

More people =/= bigger cities. ;-) (Though I agree that the manga world is certainly bigger.)
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I guess TCG-Sabrina *is* Game-Sabrina, because her images are based on the artwork for the game. And honestly, there are about 7 cards with her - that's not enough to let anyone claim it, isn't it?

*shrugs* I don't see why nobody should claim her. TG-Sabrina looks beautiful. *.* *stares at her cards*

Wyyrlokk July 15th, 2009 1:14 PM

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I CAN PAIR MANGA-SABRINA WITH EVERYONE I WANT TO!!! 8D (*mad Absol mood*)

We made an arrangement. <_< Isn't it enough for you to have her anime avatar free for you to become paired by everyone you want ?

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More people =/= bigger cities. ;-) (Though I agree that the manga world is certainly bigger.)
=/= ? Really? I think if there are more people, cities grow bigger.

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*shrugs* I don't see why nobody should claim her. TG-Sabrina looks beautiful. *.* *stares at her cards*
Yes, but I still think she belongs to game-Sabrina.

Psychic*Absol July 17th, 2009 10:41 AM

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We made an arrangement. <_< Isn't it enough for you to have her anime avatar free for you to become paired by everyone you want ?

8D NO!!! I WANNA WORLD DOMINATION!!! MUHAHAHAHAH!!!
*an Espeon comes by and whacks her with a stick* Sorry, end of semester makes her even weirder. And yes, that is possible.
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=/= ? Really? I think if there are more people, cities grow bigger.

Not always, not always. =/ Somes, the cities gets just more smaller cities around it (you know what I mean? ^^;;;'Vorstädte' in German. ^^;;;;;;;;)
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Yes, but I still think she belongs to game-Sabrina.

TG Sabrina doesn't look like all versions of the Game Sabrina.
I can distinctly remember her FR/LG version to look completely different.

Wyyrlokk July 19th, 2009 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4867118)
8D NO!!! I WANNA WORLD DOMINATION!!! MUHAHAHAHAH!!!
*an Espeon comes by and whacks her with a stick* Sorry, end of semester makes her even weirder. And yes, that is possible.

Without a doubt.

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Not always, not always. =/ Somes, the cities gets just more smaller cities around it (you know what I mean? ^^;;;'Vorstädte' in German. ^^;;;;;;;;)
Anyway, it counts to the city. And if there are houses around the real city, it will look big.

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TG Sabrina doesn't look like all versions of the Game Sabrina.
I can distinctly remember her FR/LG version to look completely different.
Hmm... anyway. I'm happy with my manga Sabrina - so do whatever you want. xD

Psychic*Absol July 20th, 2009 9:17 AM

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Without a doubt.

XD lols
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4874618)
Anyway, it counts to the city. And if there are houses around the real city, it will look big.

Just because it looks big, doesn't mean that it is big (anymore).
Anyway, I forgot what the original discussion was about. o,o;;;
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Hmm... anyway. I'm happy with my manga Sabrina - so do whatever you want. xD

...*snickers* We're allowed to do whatever we want? Does that include stealing your manga-Sabrina? XD!

Crazy Packers Fan July 23rd, 2009 1:07 AM

I don't have much to say about Sabrina anymore, I think I've said everything there is to be said about her, plus I no longer like her as much as I used to. That being said, this video may interest Sabrina fans.

Psychic*Absol July 24th, 2009 11:02 AM

*coughs* I don't like Germany's, America's, Moon's Next Topmodel so much, but heheh, wasn't it obvious to any sane person that Sabrina would win?
*doesn't comment about Cynthia and quickly hides from CPF and his queen Cynthia*

Crazy Packers Fan July 24th, 2009 10:04 PM

Not obvious at all... considering that the winner should have been Cynthia.

Wyyrlokk July 25th, 2009 1:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Packers Fan (Post 4889223)
I don't have much to say about Sabrina anymore, I think I've said everything there is to be said about her, plus I no longer like her as much as I used to. That being said, this video may interest Sabrina fans.

Woah, thank you! ^^ That was sweet and funny as well.
Although we may discuss for years about our favourites in the final. xD


Sabrina is a snake, just like me. Awesome.

Crazy Packers Fan July 25th, 2009 1:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4898910)
Sabrina is a snake, just like me. Awesome.

I don't understand... usually being a snake isn't too good, what do you mean by that?

Wyyrlokk July 25th, 2009 6:42 AM

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I don't understand... usually being a snake isn't too good, what do you mean by that?

Well, I watched the other episodes of this contest too, and one was about making a picture where they had to show themselves as their chinese sign of the zodiac. Sabrina had a snake symbol, which means she must be born in the year of the snake - just like me. =)
(Ok, I have to admit that my declaration isn't very well understandable... Look on this episode and you will understand.)

Psychic*Absol July 25th, 2009 9:01 AM

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Not obvious at all... considering that the winner should have been Cynthia.

In YOUR opinion, in YOUR opinion. =P Rember whose fanclub this is. =P
@Wyrrlokk: o,o And just like me! (me= also a snake-born) It was fate, yay! XD (Well, so was the connection between me and Mewtwo, but, meh...0=) )

Hm, theoretically, we could find out now when Sabrina was born, eh? ;-)

Crazy Packers Fan July 25th, 2009 1:05 PM

Now that I've seen that episode too, how do we know those are actually pictures of Sabrina, Cynthia, etc. and not just fanart of random anime girls who have the same hair color? But then again, it was just for fun, I guess.

Most likely if Sabrina was to be born in the Year of the Snake, it would have been the year that went from Feb. 6, 1989 to Jan. 26, 1990. Which would put her between 19 and 20. That's just a couple years off how old she actually is in my fic.

Wyyrlokk July 25th, 2009 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Packers Fan (Post 4900716)
Now that I've seen that episode too, how do we know those are actually pictures of Sabrina, Cynthia, etc. and not just fanart of random anime girls who have the same hair color? But then again, it was just for fun, I guess.

Well, I guess the pictures might be random, yes. But quite fitting.

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Most likely if Sabrina was to be born in the Year of the Snake, it would have been the year that went from Feb. 6, 1989 to Jan. 26, 1990. Which would put her between 19 and 20. That's just a couple years off how old she actually is in my fic.
I think P*As story might play now, with a 19-20 year-old Sabrina, and, because your story is the sequel as I understand, it fits in the timeline, doesn't it?

Psychic*Absol July 26th, 2009 8:29 AM

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I think P*As story might play now, with a 19-20 year-old Sabrina, and, because your story is the sequel as I understand, it fits in the timeline, doesn't it?

You got a couple of things wrong. XD First of all, my Sabrina (as in, both in Winter's Love and Spring's Revenge) is 21. She even says so herself (Iirc, she say she's three years younger than Will, who's definitely said to be 24 there. ^^)
Secondly, my fic does now play *now*. At least it's not supposed to. XD It's supposed to take place shortly before GSC. ^^In-Game-verse, it make kinda sense, because, iirc, the GSC arc and the DPP arc take place at the same time, so it could be possible for Cynthia to be champion when Will joined the elite four. Yet, anime-wise, it's a bit problematic....
Thirdly, CPF's and my fic are nearly independ of each other. It's not a sequel. It's, if I had to connect our fics in any way, I would say my fic is an AU version of CPF's. I *am* going to write the sequel of his series, though. ^^


I disagree with Sabrina being born between Feb. 6, 1989 to Jan. 26, 1990. That would make 7-8 when her anime episodes aired. Oo (And, for the game and manga-likers out there, there to. XD). So, when was the last 'snake' year before this one? =3

Wyyrlokk July 26th, 2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol (Post 4903928)
You got a couple of things wrong. XD First of all, my Sabrina (as in, both in Winter's Love and Spring's Revenge) is 21. She even says so herself (Iirc, she say she's three years younger than Will, who's definitely said to be 24 there. ^^)
Secondly, my fic does now play *now*. At least it's not supposed to. XD It's supposed to take place shortly before GSC. ^^In-Game-verse, it make kinda sense, because, iirc, the GSC arc and the DPP arc take place at the same time, so it could be possible for Cynthia to be champion when Will joined the elite four. Yet, anime-wise, it's a bit problematic....
Thirdly, CPF's and my fic are nearly independ of each other. It's not a sequel. It's, if I had to connect our fics in any way, I would say my fic is an AU version of CPF's. I *am* going to write the sequel of his series, though. ^^

Then I have to correct myself. Even I couldn't remember every single detail. I'm sorry for spreading around wrong predications.

How do you define "now" then? Shortly after GSC - you think of the publication date of the games? I wouldn't do so. It seems wrong to me.
But because your fic is based on the anime, you might have a different concept than I have.



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I disagree with Sabrina being born between Feb. 6, 1989 to Jan. 26, 1990. That would make 7-8 when her anime episodes aired. Oo (And, for the game and manga-likers out there, there to. XD). So, when was the last 'snake' year before this one? =3
12 years before, which would make her about 32 years old. Quite unfitting. Anyway. The episodes were broadcasted in 1998, but who says that it *plays* in 1998? And in the manga there is no time specification too, right? oO
(Btw, her doll could be 7-8 years. xD)

Psychic*Absol July 26th, 2009 12:11 PM

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Then I have to correct myself. Even I couldn't remember every single detail. I'm sorry for spreading around wrong predications.

^^ That's no problem.
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How do you define "now" then?

Now= 26th July 2009. XD
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Shortly after GSC - you think of the publication date of the games?

Yes. ^^)I think around 1999...)
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I wouldn't do so. It seems wrong to me.

That's your concept. Mine is different.
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But because your fic is based on the anime, you might have a different concept than I have.

Like I said, I do have a different concept. I mostly use the anime as a basis. And, well, with the translation of Winter's Love and using of Cynthia in Spring's Revenge, I kinda threw the time-line out of the window anyway. XD
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12 years before, which would make her about 32 years old. Quite unfitting.

Well, 32 *now*. =3 When the episodes aired, she would have been 21. And now that *is* fitting.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4904549)
Anyway. The episodes were broadcasted in 1998, but who says that it *plays* in 1998? And in the manga there is no time specification too, right? oO

Well, for me, it was kinda logically. Of course, Pokemon world =/= our world, but how could the writers write about something that happens in the future? =3 Okay, okay, Pokemon is fiction, but to use *some* kind of time-line (the anime itself is a time loop, imo >>), I used the *real life* time. =3 Placing the happening of the episodes just sometime seems inappropiate.
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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4904549)
(Btw, her doll could be 7-8 years. xD)

I always saw it as being around 4-5 years, but nevermind. =3

Crazy Packers Fan July 26th, 2009 9:14 PM

For one thing, there's no reason to assume that Sabrina was born in the Year of the Snake, as that is anything but canon. A random YouTube video which misidentified a random anime girl with green hair as Sabrina pegged her as being born in that year. Obviously if we're going off that, we're really going out on a limb.

But at least I figured out how to revitalize this club...

Psychic*Absol July 27th, 2009 10:06 AM

Well, if we're going to judge things only by going from the *canon*, then, well, we shouldn't be discussing our fanfics here anymore, too. 0=)
Secondly, Sabrina herself is a fictional character, so what's so wrong about giving her fictional birthdates? Our judgement is as good as anyones considering this, so, yeah. XD
(And don't you tell me *you* are the hero of the club, boy. >>)

Wyyrlokk August 5th, 2009 11:49 AM

I'm sorry for being inactive such a long time... I'm in a difficult situation, and it will continue. Probably I don't have a possibility to use the internet for some weeks or even a month, but I hope that this club is still... alive... after I finish my move.

Psychic*Absol August 5th, 2009 12:02 PM

Awwww...I'm so sorry, Wyyrlokk. ^^ I hope your situation gets better soon. Till then, I think we have enough members who can should keep the club alive, neh? =3
(Btw, before you disappear into the sunset, could you drop off at MSN? I've got some [good?] news for ya. =3)

Crazy Packers Fan August 16th, 2009 11:41 PM

Can't let this club die... even though I currently have nothing to talk about regarding Sabrina...

Alakazam17 August 17th, 2009 10:38 AM

Hey everyone, I'm Alakazam, and I have been a fan of Sabrina for many, many years. Even now I wonder if it was Pokemon that made me a Sabrina fan, or if it was actually Sabrina who made me a Pokemon fan, lulz. Anyway, I see this is quite an active club, so please count me in on the fun! :D

I've been gone so long from here that that seemed like the appropriate re-entry, XDD.

Psychic*Absol August 17th, 2009 11:49 AM

Well, you haven't been gone long enoguh to disappear from out collevtive memory, Alakazam17, lulz, but of couse you can join? Re-join? Whatever, as long as it keeps the club alive. XD!

Wyyrlokk August 18th, 2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 4999477)
Even now I wonder if it was Pokemon that made me a Sabrina fan, or if it was actually Sabrina who made me a Pokemon fan, lulz. Anyway, I see this is quite an active club, so please count me in on the fun! :D

Maybe we could start a discussion from that. xD

I was a Pokemon fan before I knew any of the characters, just from looking other kids playing. I only knew Charizard and some other "monsters" fighting, which was incredible cool. xp After playing the game, Sabrina became my favourite gym leader soon. She got even more interesting over the years. (I didn't know neither her TV apperence nor any fanfictions with her so far, but anyway...) After loosing my interest in Pokemon, remembering her brought my back to the game.
So... maybe it was both in my case. xD

Alakazam17 August 18th, 2009 6:47 PM

Hmm, interesting. I suppose Pokemon really got me into Sabrina, as I had to defeat those first three gyms before I found out who she was. And I remember now being upset when I realized that I couldn't see her sprite again after defeating her. ;_;

Wyyrlokk August 19th, 2009 1:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alakazam17 (Post 5005713)
Hmm, interesting. I suppose Pokemon really got me into Sabrina, as I had to defeat those first three gyms before I found out who she was. And I remember now being upset when I realized that I couldn't see her sprite again after defeating her. ;_;

I'm still upset about it. And usually I challenge her as late as possible, for the seventh badge, not for the forth. xD


Playing the game for the first time didn't turn me into a worshipper of her, but after I learned more about the game (by playing it over and over again...) I started to like her more than any other character.

Alakazam17 August 19th, 2009 7:35 AM

I battled her as soon as I could because I didn't want to have her sitting there waiting for me as I went everywhere else. ;_;

Psychic*Absol August 19th, 2009 8:30 AM

*coughs* Well, you know me, and how I tend to sit in front of the DS for hours before finally being able to beat certain characters...or, instead, battling, turning off without saving, turning on and battling again, then turning off and turning on and battling and....*until eternity* XD

I'm quite sure I told this story before already, but I was first a Mewtwo fan, which made me a Pokemon fan (my first experience with Pokemon *was* the first movie and a classmate with his annoying'Pika, Pika'!) and after two years or so, I suddenly switched over to Sabrina. No idea why, it really happened over a day and then, suddenly, I wasn't interested in Mewtwo anymore even though I was as obsessed with him before as I'm now with Sabrina.
I suppose if I ever get obsessed with something else again, it will be as shockingly and unexpectedly as it was before. XD

Alakazam17 August 19th, 2009 8:58 AM

P*A changing obsessions? Omg if that ever happened, there'd be another apocalypse sign every second until she finally came back to our side. =P


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