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Originally Posted by Psychic*Absol
(Post 4647318)
I'm fairly sure he had Sneasel before he went to Mask of Ice. After all, it was one the picture with him and his father.
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Point given to you. I don't read FRLG so far, so I couldn't say anything against this.
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Ah, but electric and ground are, in comparison, rather physical elements instead of psychic and dark. Psychic powers can manipulate people and matter (as shown in the manga by Blue and her problems with birds), and well, imo, that's different from the way electric and ground react to each other. There has to be a reason why psychic powers do no work on dark pokemon, and I think dark powers either block psychic powers or psychic powers just don't work on dark pokemon. Either way, Giovanni could shield himself with a dark pokemon. And remember, he has Viridian's powers, who knows what else he can do...
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Hm... no, not really. It's more a natural ability of Dark Pokemon, I guess. So they can only block attacks and psycal powers targetting themselves. But there is no hint to that theme anyway, so we could fight about this for years without coming to a result... ^^
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I never said she would do that out of love (I think I did XD), I meant that she would do that because she is weak-minded, giving up the city she controls and letting TR control it completely. On the other hand, you're right, if you're evil, you do these things because they go along with your plans.
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was evil, and she was one of the leaders of TR, so letting the city take over bei TR doesn't means she's weak-minded. She controls the city anyway, further as a gym leader, afterwards as a TR executive. And I don't think the city meaned much to her - otherwise she surely would never had joined TR.
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Isn't that Giovanni's assumption? We don't really know why Koga went away, we don't know his own motivations.
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Well, you don't read PokeSpec 14, right? ^^
Thanks. Finally a point to me.
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It should, yes, but consider that the current actions happen ten years later. Long time to forgive, ne?
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No. I don't hear of any strong-minded victim to sexual abuse which ever forgives her torturer. And, as you already sayed, she was quite young in RBY, not much older than Blue (Green in our German version). And Blue and Silver where nearly at the same age when they were kidnapped. I just remember that by now. It definitely wouldn't fit in the timeline. And, last but not least, if I'm Giovanni, I would choose a woman which is old enough to take care of a child better than a 14/15-year-old girl without emotions (and no time because she has to build up a criminal empire by your side).
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Yes, when he was stopped by Red. We're talking about the time when Silver was conceived, which was at least 8-9 years before Red's victory. Back then, Giovanni could have had doubts that he would be able to bring TR to glory, so, he got a son...
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*sigh* I think he founded TR a year ago before he was stopped by Red, or maybe two years, not earlier. Surge, Koga and Sabrina where members from the beginning (as you see in PokeSpec 14) and it would be too conspicious if three leaders disapper for such a long time, I guess. And 8-9 years before I don't think he would doubt his victory anyway. He doesn't seem to be that type of person. He even rebuilt TR after the Elite Four and Mask of Ice were stopped, right? That means he never give up, so why should he have doubts before even founded TR?
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I always thought that once Silver become a member, it would be obvious that he would be trained to be the next leader. Oo Becoming a member just being the first step on the ladder, so to say.
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Trained by the Mask of Ice wasn't his plan. Anyway. The three gym leaders were executives (and his deputies) from the beginning, so why should he make his son to a lower-ranked henchman?
I think after recognizing Silver's his son, he wants him to join Tr, but in the days Silver was born he didn't think about Tr already, or at least didn't think about an heir.
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Oh, I got you quite right, but hormons control love, too. (Psychologist in me is speaking again, lol)
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I know, but I thought you mean she actively opressed her hormons. I think it is just an adverse reaction. By the way, she liked Giovanni...
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...yes, very weird. I had the imagine popping (...) up of her *suddenly* maturing in the middle of the spring scene and Red being present...
I should not be online at 1 am....
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She had a year to mature... Red arrived at the last day on the hotspring, and anyway, she was grown up menatl, of course, before that. It's just about her physical condition.
(After all, YOU started that theme about how strange it is she lookes so much older in GSC! xD)
And no, I guess you shouldn't... or maybe you should? It might be funny to see what you image next time... *g*