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husk1442 August 21st, 2005 6:11 AM

edited the regice set and the DDtar one a bit

leafgreen386 August 21st, 2005 1:18 PM

Now I didn't say that.
 
Quote:

Fine ill do a Boah one if you want it so badly.
I was just asking why you didn't include both variations of Tyranitar, that's all.

Insanity Mawile August 28th, 2005 2:33 PM

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 46 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss

This is the one I like.

husk1442 August 28th, 2005 3:56 PM

I believe that is up there except you need 270 SpAtk to OHKO dugtrio, so thats what is up there, also new set added for Blissey due to NYPC moves being incorporated in NB

leafgreen386 August 28th, 2005 4:47 PM

Quote:

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Seismic Toss

Comments:
Ruined by Boah and McGar and other various sub-punchers this set effectively slows down and guaranteed damage. It can also heal its self at will. Dugtrio and other ground types give it problems also
Um... right. This is what I was saying. Some people like to use IB as a Gengar counter and only a Gengar counter. They don't care as much about Dugtrio as it isn't exactly as OU as Gengar is. Why don't you just put IB as an option over T-Wave on this set and be done with it?

husk1442 September 4th, 2005 5:43 PM

since, you don't have netbattle I won't blame you for it but, dugtrio is on every single ****ing team now day, its quite annoying

CardsOfTheHeart September 6th, 2005 7:48 AM

hey guys, is this a good heracross?

Heracross (M) @ Salac
Ability: Swarm
EVs: 20 Hp / 252 Atk / 236 Spd
Adamant (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
Megahorn
Rock Slide
Endure
Reversal

two things:
1. i gave it 265 speed so when salac kicks in it'll outrun the base 130s and anyone else trying to outrun the base 130s.
2. i'm not a big fan of swords dance instead of rock slide in this set. i don't want to pump up my Atk only for it to be hazed away, later.

leafgreen386 September 7th, 2005 3:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husk1442
since, you don't have netbattle I won't blame you for it but, dugtrio is on every single ****ing team now day, its quite annoying

What server do you play on? I hardly see any. And for the record, I do have NB, as of 9.5's release.

The Heracross is good. But watch for TTar. You may want a poke of your own (ie.Exeggutor) that can alter the weather so after you deal with TTar you can use Hera safely.

ex_milotic September 9th, 2005 9:01 PM

Could someone help with my Blaziken Moveset and EVs(Emerald) Thanks!

Blaziken---Timid Nature(Could it be replaced?)
Speed:255 EVs
-->(What other stats should EVs go into?)

Moveset:
Flamethrower
Rock Slide/Earthquake
Sky Uppercut/Brick Break
Thunderpunch???

Thanks for your help, guys! =)

Rubberbandman September 11th, 2005 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex_milotic
Could someone help with my Blaziken Moveset and EVs(Emerald) Thanks!

Blaziken---Timid Nature(Could it be replaced?)
Speed:255 EVs
-->(What other stats should EVs go into?)


Moveset:
Flamethrower
Rock Slide/Earthquake
Sky Uppercut/Brick Break
Thunderpunch???

Thanks for your help, guys! =)

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Hasty(-Defense,+Speed) or Naughty(+ Attack,-Sp.Defense)
EV's: Attack-252,Speed-126,Sp.Attack-126
Overheat
Substitute/Endure
Reversal/Focus Punch
Rock Slide

just like charizard,any real decent attack can knock it out,so endure reversal works,till a quick attacker comes out,and timid is not good for blaziken,considering that it is a physical attacker,and you can get rid of Overheat for sword dance and make it jolly or adamant to support that.

Mullet October 12th, 2005 5:35 PM

Blaziken goes like this:

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EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Nature:Naughty
Sub
Reversal
Earthquake/Rock Slide
Overheat/Swords Dance

Blaziken owns.
:D

Espy Psyche October 13th, 2005 8:21 AM

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Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Rock Slide
Reversal
Endure
252 ATK, 200 SPD, 58 SA
You can alter SA and SPD somewhat. This seems to work effectively, at least on Smogon. Endure a strong attack, Salac activates, and Reversal everything to death. Fire counters Skarm, and Rock Slide kills Sala/Zard/anything else flying because Reversal is ineffective against them.

Also I need a Flareon moveset. I looked at its base stats and determined that i wanted a phy sweeper, so I came up with this:
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F/Thrower
Shadow Ball
HP Fight
Endure

This is an effective(and unexpected)Blissey Counter. Blissey's most common attack move is SToss, so this is effective because I know exactly when to endure. HP Fight is very effective with 252 ATK EVs because then Flare's ATK is 394. Evs go similar to my Blaziken's.

kohei October 20th, 2005 2:53 AM

>>Qwilfish
I'll be going offtopic, but Quilfish is a good UU Pokemon... at least when used in lv.50 matches. Not sure for lv.100, but here goes.

- Raindance
- Destiny Bond
- Spikes
- "something"

EV's in speed and HP.

- Basically, it's a use and discard Pokemon. Activate Swiftswim with Raindance, then use different moves depending on it's leftover HP. Destiny Bond when it's dying, or scatter Spikes until it's nearly dead.

"Something" should be switched according to your preference.

Synchronize October 20th, 2005 7:09 AM

On Dunsparce i used Ancientpower over rockslide after seeing that log of BLueshirt32 vs. Tigoro

Shadow Tyranitar October 20th, 2005 6:36 PM

The problem is is that after you Endure, you'll be at 1 HP, and it takes a lot more than HP Fight to KO Bliss. I suppose it would work if you weaken it down with HP Fight while it STosses you.

That Blaziken set actually has potential to sweep entire teams, but Tyranitars are so common that it is almost worthless in today's metagame.

husk1442 October 21st, 2005 8:40 AM

another problem is flareon isn't fast enought to make serious use of the salac

husk1442 October 21st, 2005 8:52 AM

Official RSFrLgE MoveSet and EVs Help Topic V1.0
 
there was a merging error

sorry about the double post

Shadow Tyranitar October 21st, 2005 8:57 AM

hey husk1442, on all of my Milotics I use evs (with a calm nature) for 257 special attack, 206 defense, 206 speed, 327 special defense, and something like 364 hp. What's your opinion about that spread, and what spread do you use? Also, I think you should mention HP Water and Sing in your Bliss analysis.

Pax Deorum October 21st, 2005 9:00 AM

Pelipper (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 202 Def / 56 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Helliper, a cool sweeper, especially in the late game, gets walled by the UU Special Sponges though


Togetic (F) @ Leftovers ** Caelum
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 138 Def / 120 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Very cool pokemon, supports with Thunder-Wave, stalls like hell with Softboiled. That EV spread let her survive things like CB Rock Slides from Mence and Counter for the OHKO, Seismic Toss lets him do some consistent form of damage. A real beast, beware of Rock Slides though

Dan Dan October 26th, 2005 1:59 AM

Exeggutor (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 20 HP / 212 Spd / 252 SAtk / 26 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Sunny Day
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Fire]/[Ice]
- Sleep Powder/Leech Seed/Explosion

Exeggutor, a very underrated pokemon outside Uber Battling (paired with Groudon, gives it 396 speed from the switch in). Switch this guy into a non-STAB EQ and Sunny Day, then proceed to sweep. Blissey stops Eggy cold, but thats where Explosion comes in handy (be careful of ghosts as Explosion can be quite predictable. HP Fire to make use of the Sunny Day boost and to hit grasses, HP Ice for grasses for less power, but a KO on most Dragons. Leech Seed/Sleep Powder for annoyance really.

Exeggutor has the same typing as Celebi, giving it the most weaknesses. This can make it hard to use, but pair it up with the right pokemon to cover them, and you will see Exeggutor is a force to be reckoned with. A good partner for Exeggutor would have to be Hariyama, because with Thick Fat, it covers all of Eggys Special Weaknesses.

Pete October 30th, 2005 9:01 AM

Uhh...husk said you could ask questions in the first post right?

On some Skarmory movesets it says you can't have Drill Peck and Whirlwind at the same time.

Why?

Mullet October 30th, 2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiril-Kun
Uhh...husk said you could ask questions in the first post right?

On some Skarmory movesets it says you can't have Drill Peck and Whirlwind at the same time.

Why?

You can't have Drill Peck, and WW at the same time on Skarm because it's an illegal combination of Egg Moves that can't be achived.

Matty_Boi November 7th, 2005 5:26 PM

srry for asking, but whats so special about bolt beam? i forgot....

Ice demon November 7th, 2005 5:43 PM

It scores a super effective hit on most things [especially many OU pokes] and if not it hits neutral.
Only 3 pokemon resist it - magneton,shedinja and lanturn.

Pax Deorum November 21st, 2005 8:05 AM

That thing, like anything ingame, works there.

But that set you gave us, just fails in competitive pokemon. I'd be more harsh, but since you said this was ingame, meh. Anything works ingame


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