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Sir Critias November 12th, 2005 2:20 PM

Blind As A Bat
 
Hi guys, I was just wondering, do you guys think that Blind people can dream? I've never met a blind person before so yeah. i haven't been able to ask them that. But I do reckon that they dream, like they don't see pictures, it's just colours and or they can hear voices of their friends and stuff. so yeah. What u guys think?

- Sir Critias

Samurai X November 12th, 2005 2:32 PM

Hmm, I've never thought of that but I think they can dream, you don't need to be able to see to dream.

Sammi November 12th, 2005 2:35 PM

Now this is an interesting poll ^^~
I actually had to think a little bit on this one.

Personally, I think they might be able to. I don't think dreaming has anything to do with the eyes. However, it might not be like normal people dream, especially if they have been blind since birth. ^^;

Dawg 2005 November 12th, 2005 4:24 PM

I KNOW they can dream. Since dreaming doesn't involve eyes, yeah of course, it uses the brain to project images into the brain, seeing them without actually seeing them.

But how things would look is a different story, like sammi said, it might not be like normal people, especially since birth.

Natsuki November 12th, 2005 4:27 PM

This is a very interesting question, actually. :3 I'm not sure, since I haven't ever met a blind person before either. ^^; If they're been blind since birth, then they might still see pictures, but it'll just be as they've always "visioned" them to be rather than what we actually can see.

~Kelsey

Greed November 12th, 2005 4:31 PM

Of course they can.

I believe that they can at least see minor images, possibly even how they think how humans look like. <3

So interesting if you think about it though, these are one of those topics that make my mind fly out of this world.

Chibi-chan November 12th, 2005 5:10 PM

Well, I'm sure they can feel more emotion in dreams than we can. I don't think they can see colors...but if you give them a description, they might be able to picture something...I don't know :\

Team Magma Girl November 12th, 2005 5:17 PM

Just because your eyes don't work doesn't mean your mind doesn't! XD As long as your mind works you can dream! I think! o.o
Anyways:
I believe they can dream! Everyone dreams.

Sorye HK November 12th, 2005 5:18 PM

I guess they can dream. Dreaming doesn't really involve eyes. This poll rather makes me wonder what they dream about;;;

Dignity November 12th, 2005 5:46 PM

Of course. See, blind people feel things out, they touch everything that is unfamiliar to them, thusly making them be able to invision at least silhouettes of things in dreams. And if not that, maybe thoughts come into their head, narrated like a storybook~ :3

Chairman Kaga November 12th, 2005 6:21 PM

Since dreams tend to be primarily visual, and the perception of the world by the blind is primarily tactile, the only common ground I can think of for the two is sound; which is the most stimulating sense left to the blind. If someone has never seen anything other than blackness before, they do not have the power to magically see something in their dreams. It would be like inventing a new color. Their brain can only reflect what they experience--and the truth is that the blind cannot visualize anything involving light, dimension, or motion.

This is strictly about blind-since-birth people, though. Of course people who have lost their sight over the years can dream.

BladeForever November 12th, 2005 6:40 PM

Yes yes, the most speculations you have to look at have been explained above and I simply agree. With there being more than just sight for a sense, even if born into a forbidden blindness, something will be formed in a different way for certain. Just couldn't imagine a reason why they couldn't dream. If you read and watched movies of blind people, you'd catch on to myths suchs as The blind can see the future in which in term certainly must conclude to a dream, for such a thing to happen. (or even those nonfictional movies, they tend to conjure up dreams anyway.) It goes far deeper into that, but all that doesn't matter anyway. o.o

~Blade~

Kylie-chan November 13th, 2005 1:55 AM

I don't really see when I dream. I hear voices superimposed on darkness, and I form images on top of that, if that makes sense. I thought a lot about this when I was asked if I dreamt in colour or non-colour... so, why not? Just not in the sense that we would dream, with things we'd seen... :o

Innocence November 13th, 2005 2:12 AM

I know for a fact that blind people dream. I read somewhere, that they don't dream inpictures, but instead in sounds, tastes, umm...touches? and smells. One blind person said: "I had a dream i was being chased by a dog. I heard the dog barking, I felt the dog's breath, And it was scary."
Being the philosiphical person i am, and having an annoying ability to think myself in circles alot, this is one of the questions that i think about: What do you see if you are blind? Then i think: But if they are blind they CAN'T see! But then i think: THEN what color do they see? Brown, as if they closed their eyes? White? Black? But then i realise: They CAN'T see color. But then i think: What do they sdee then? and i start all over again.

crystal_mew November 13th, 2005 2:55 AM

Its questions like these that always gets me thinking more and more. I've been going in circles about this one.

After some thought, I believe that blind people do indeed dream. Not every dream, however, are just simply images in your mind. What I think is that those blind since birth only have dreams that has to do with sound, touch, and emotion. Others would dream of what they've seen when they had their sight, or of what they imagine a new object/person would look like, using what they have already.

I'll begin to ramble if I continue further. e_e; I'll be thinking about this and fighting with myself all day...heh. Quite the interesting question.

Overlord IX November 13th, 2005 5:49 AM

Well I doubt they can dream. Frankly speaking dreams are figmentations of something u have seen before (regardless of how long ago it was,) or something u encountered. And seeing as blind people cant see a single thing,let alone experience anything with their sight,well.. ya,u get where Im going.

Suki November 13th, 2005 5:58 AM

no i dont really see when i dream i kind think that is see, i had a vfery wierd dream last night, i woke up at 11am. But anyway ive never met a blind person b4 but i think that they dream too

Charizard_Fire_God November 13th, 2005 9:47 AM

Hmm... tch, well dreaming is actually stuff that passes through tha conscient part of tha mind as tha brain sorts out what it's learnt durin' tha day, tch, so if a person's ever had sight before he or she went blind, then I guess so. As with ppl who're either blind from birth or have lost sight so long ago that they'z forgotten what it's like, I kinda doubt it.

What's more, those who've never had sight's brains probably never even had tha chance ta make tha proper connections ta even be able to process visual, having never recieved visual stimuli...

One thing I DO believe though, is that they canfeel touch and hear sounds ALOT mote often than we do... ^^;;;

jc_rcw November 13th, 2005 9:51 AM

I don't know, but I guess they can dream.

Overlord IX November 13th, 2005 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Charizard_Fire_God
Hmm... tch, well dreaming is actually stuff that passes through tha conscient part of tha mind as tha brain sorts out what it's learnt durin' tha day, tch, so if a person's ever had sight before he or she went blind, then I guess so. As with ppl who're either blind from birth or have lost sight so long ago that they'z forgotten what it's like, I kinda doubt it.

What's more, those who've never had sight's brains probably never even had tha chance ta make tha proper connections ta even be able to process visual, having never recieved visual stimuli...

One thing I DO believe though, is that they canfeel touch and hear sounds ALOT mote often than we do... ^^;;;


I guess with sight out of the way,the brain can use more its functions for other senses like hearing,touch,etc...

Random Plushie November 13th, 2005 6:38 PM

Well, I don't really feel like rambling today, so I'll keep my answer as simple as possible..

I believe that blind people can dream, just not visually. They can dream in the sense that they can hear, touch, smell, and stuff in their dreams, just not really see stuff, unless they were born with sight and just lost it over the years.

If only a blind person could get someone to post for them and share their intimate dream knowledge. XD

Rhykasho November 13th, 2005 11:11 PM

I think they can dream if they wernt blind all their life, if they were then I dont really know o.o

netdroid9 November 14th, 2005 2:45 AM

Blind people can dream, just not in the ordinary way.

What colour do they see instead of a normal image though? That's interesting, it depends on what kind of blindness they have I guess. They could either see a random colour, or no colour. The thing is, no-colour is probably impossible to explain. It's a concept people can't understand if they aren't blind, and if they are blind they wouldn't know what colour was. The only way to tell for sure is to ask someone who can see out of one eye but not the other. But even then they'd have a hard time explaining it.

I'd personally say that no-colour is complete darkness (even if it's not) simply to be able to understand the concept (even if it's a slight misunderstanding).

loony November 14th, 2005 12:27 PM

i know blind people can dream<3 because i have a blind guy in mine class he can dream but only tastes,touches,sound and smells. no sight in his dreams.and he has not been blind his whole life he sad that:P

Asura Nirosuki November 14th, 2005 12:38 PM

I know also there able to. Its all in our creative minds not just eyes. >>

Theres even people in the world who can walk the earth normally with there eyes shut.

Not because they tried doing it too.


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