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CrasH December 27th, 2007 12:09 PM

ok thanks ^^; im a noobie haha

Romo_Owens December 27th, 2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3200321)
No its a physical wall. It could sweep in a Trick Room team though.

Golem could easily be a sweeper It's got the attack for it, and It's STAB attacks have amaizing type coverage, plus with Rock Polish it could tear teams apart who aren't ready for it.

ultranerd57 December 27th, 2007 12:13 PM

Golems base speed is 45 it would take a couple (2-3) of RPs to get it to sweep and by then you opponent could easily have KOed you.

Romo_Owens December 27th, 2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3199413)
Yeah....now torkoal is back again.

Well it really depends on what you're looking for. At first you said a WALL. How the heck did Nintetails get brought in a wall? It can't defend! The only thing is, although Torkoal still has better Attack and SP. atk, Ninetails has access to Nasty Plot and Energy Ball

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3200351)
Golems base speed is 45 it would take a couple (2-3) of RPs to get it to sweep and by then you opponent could easily have KOed you.

I've got a Modest nature Porygon-Z. No Speed boost base 90 speed, and full speed EVs. I have still seen it sweep across teams. A Golem, with a 252/252 ev spread, jolly nature, and an RP could outrun a base 100 Salamence, Zapdos and Slaking... as long as they don't have any items boosting their speed or are running a speed boosting nature.

Waker of Chaos December 27th, 2007 1:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3199544)
It keeps the moveswhen you breed it I think so I'm going to try for a timid one.

So what about Magmortar?

Wait, you can breed the Surfing Pikachu to get more Surfing Pikachus? Why do I doubt this? Anyway, for Magmortar...

Magmortar @ Leftovers; Flame Body
Modest; 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Flamethrower
SolarBeam
Sunny Day
Will-O-Wisp

That's probably the best one for OU, since Stealth Rock and sandstorms kill it so easily.

CrasH December 27th, 2007 4:53 PM

Ok guys haha I have beat diamond. and Im starting over on pearl.

and so far i have Empoleon, Roserade,Golem,Salemance,Magmortar,

but i really don't know who else, Scizor or Sneasel? I know this team kinda sucks but i will change it up later on. any help would be nice

Anti December 27th, 2007 5:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3200488)
Wait, you can breed the Surfing Pikachu to get more Surfing Pikachus? Why do I doubt this? Anyway, for Magmortar...

Magmortar @ Leftovers; Flame Body
Modest; 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Flamethrower
SolarBeam
Sunny Day
Will-O-Wisp

That's probably the best one for OU, since Stealth Rock and sandstorms kill it so easily.

I strongly disagree. Abamnasnow, Hipppo, or TTar can switch in on your solarbeam and get a free hit on you while you charge up. Not only that, but it is so dang slow compared to other OU sweepers that stuff like Scarfers and fast CBers and specs users like Zam and Salamence can come and just destroy any chances of sunnybeaming. Really, Magmortar is better to just hit and run away. It's like a special blaziken kind of (though blaziken can use special tatacks, to its credit).

Waker of Chaos December 27th, 2007 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3201069)
I strongly disagree. Abamnasnow, Hipppo, or TTar can switch in on your solarbeam and get a free hit on you while you charge up. Not only that, but it is so dang slow compared to other OU sweepers that stuff like Scarfers and fast CBers and specs users like Zam and Salamence can come and just destroy any chances of sunnybeaming. Really, Magmortar is better to just hit and run away. It's like a special blaziken kind of (though blaziken can use special tatacks, to its credit).

Fine, then YOU post here instead of me, while I sell my games on eBay or something. God, I HATE making stupid mistakes like not reading everything on a web page.

Archer December 27th, 2007 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3201096)
Fine, then YOU post here instead of me, while I sell my games on eBay or something. God, I HATE making stupid mistakes like not reading everything on a web page.

Calm Down. Anti was just showing why your statement made no sense.

And you are right - Surfing Pikachu could not possibly breed for another Surfing Pikachu

@Crash - I think you mean Weavile (not sneasel). He would be a better option out of those two, as you do NOT want 4 weaknesses to the most commonly used physical move - Earthqukake.

Weavile @ Expert Belt/Muscle band(is it 20 or 10%)
Timid/Adamant | 252 Attack / 220 Spd / 38 HP/SDef
~Night Slash/Pursuit
~Ice Punch/Shard
~Brick Break
~Aerial Ace/Pursuit


~Archer~

Angelic Diablo December 28th, 2007 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3201096)
Fine, then YOU post here instead of me, while I sell my games on eBay or something. God, I HATE making stupid mistakes like not reading everything on a web page.

How about you learn how to take some critism first...

[email protected] Specs/Scarf
Timid/Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Grass/Dark
-Focus Blast

Goldenhammerhead December 28th, 2007 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 3201556)
How about you learn how to take some critism first...

[email protected] Specs/Scarf
Timid/Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Grass/Dark
-Focus Blast

No i dont think he was being rude...i think that was a deranged attempt at sarcasm....XD

Angelic Diablo December 28th, 2007 3:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash 529 (Post 3200305)
IS golem usally a physical sweeper? I was thinking more of a DEF set up? or is that just a bad idea?

Defensive set

[email protected]
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 184 Def, 74 Atk
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Stealth Rock/Sleep Talk
-Rest

Not the best, but eh. Rest is it's only form of recovery, so then it can either Sleep Talk to continue doing damage, or with Cleric Support you can have Stealth Rock on it instead, STAB moves stay on so it can cause some damage.

El Gofre December 28th, 2007 8:08 AM

Hi, Im participating in an uber tournament when I get back to school, does anyone have any suggestions for a physical sweeper? My current pick is a hasty Rayquaza, but would he be fast enough or would I need to scarf him?

Azonic December 28th, 2007 8:10 AM

Probably would need to Scarf him. It poses as a huge threat that way.

El Gofre December 28th, 2007 8:20 AM

Ok thanx, now i need a physical wall lol. Once I have that I'm all set :)

shedinjask December 28th, 2007 9:22 AM

Rayquaza also gets DD/Outrage. Or Specs/Draco Meteor, but there are better things for that.

Quote:

How the heck did Nintetails get brought in a wall?
I think it was the 100 base SDef and Hypnosis/WoW. Still works better as a sweeper though.

Death_Mande December 28th, 2007 10:07 AM

Whats a good move set for a Blasoise,Venusaur,Charizard,Pikachu,Gengar and a Alakazam? Hope it's not too much for you guys to answer, since im going to start EV training to battle around PC.

Shiraishi December 28th, 2007 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3202421)
Hi, Im participating in an uber tournament when I get back to school, does anyone have any suggestions for a physical sweeper? My current pick is a hasty Rayquaza, but would he be fast enough or would I need to scarf him?

DD-Quaza is one of the most unstoppable pokemon you will ever see.

ultranerd57 December 28th, 2007 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3201518)
Calm Down. Anti was just showing why your statement made no sense.

And you are right - Surfing Pikachu could not possibly breed for another Surfing Pikachu

@Crash - I think you mean Weavile (not sneasel). He would be a better option out of those two, as you do NOT want 4 weaknesses to the most commonly used physical move - Earthqukake.

Weavile @ Expert Belt/Muscle band(is it 20 or 10%)
Timid/Adamant | 252 Attack / 220 Spd / 38 HP/SDef
~Night Slash/Pursuit
~Ice Punch/Shard
~Brick Break
~Aerial Ace/Pursuit


~Archer~

You can't breed it. Oh well its not that important anyway just something that'd be fun to use.

@ Ancelic Diablo Thanks for the set.

CrasH December 28th, 2007 11:57 AM

Ok so Empoleon, Roserade,Golem,Salemance,Magmortar,Weaville. any suggest something diffrent?

shedinjask December 28th, 2007 12:21 PM

You have some EQ weak. Golem can't take them forever and one immunity with no resists isn't enough.

GalladeIceMan December 28th, 2007 12:34 PM

Good set for a Snorlax?
 
What's a good moveset and spread for Snorlax?

.Eevee-Chan December 28th, 2007 12:54 PM

Battle Tower Team Needed! A Team of Six please! Also i need EV spreads,natures,moveset,items,and help choosing the Pokemon.

Pokemon:
Milotic Not sure
Gallade IN
Breloom IN
Umbreon Not sure
Flareon Not sure
Glaceon Not sure
Jolteon Not sure

ABYAY December 28th, 2007 1:24 PM

There's something I've always wanted to make that would be hilarious to see done.

Steelix @ Grip Claw/Leftovers ***Mr./Ms. McDOTs (male/female)
Impish nature
252 HP/252 Def/6 atk

Sand Tomb
Bind
Toxic
Protect/Sandstorm

lolz... ^^ DOTs! (damage over time), and this could be a great witherer of some tanks. Sure Bronzong and Skarm mess it up, but non-steels are really hurt by it.

Why did I post this? I wanted to know if this could actually be ran in a battle. I really want to make one like this, just to annoy people as they're stuck in either Bind or Sand Tomb with a Sandstorm active. In a sandstorm team, Protect = massive damage even while remaining unhurt.

Waker of Chaos December 28th, 2007 2:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3201763)
No i dont think he was being rude...i think that was a deranged attempt at sarcasm....XD

Neither. I was speaking literally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 3201556)
How about you learn how to take some critism first...

[email protected] Specs/Scarf
Timid/Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
-Flamethrower
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Grass/Dark
-Focus Blast

I'll learn how to take criticism when you learn how to spell it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3201518)
Calm Down. Anti was just showing why your statement made no sense.

And you are right - Surfing Pikachu could not possibly breed for another Surfing Pikachu

Sorry. It's just that when I make a stupid mistake like that, I get pissed at myself, and everyone else ends up taking the flame.

To stay on topic, what's the best set for a Jumpluff for OU?

shedinjask December 28th, 2007 2:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnighteon (Post 3203097)
Battle Tower Team Needed! A Team of Six please! Also i need EV spreads,natures,moveset,items,and help choosing the Pokemon.

Pokemon:
Milotic Not sure
Gallade IN
Breloom IN
Umbreon Not sure
Flareon Not sure
Glaceon Not sure
Jolteon Not sure

Well, Glaceon gives you two fire weaks. Otherwise it's a good choice. Milotic and Jolteon can work as well; I'd pick Jolt.

Waker of Chaos December 28th, 2007 2:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3203283)
Well, Glaceon gives you two fire weaks. Otherwise it's a good choice. Milotic and Jolteon can work as well; I'd pick Jolt.

If he picks Jolteon, he should lead with it, right? Agility and Baton Pass.

shedinjask December 28th, 2007 2:32 PM

Jumpluff @ Focus Sash
252 HP/252 Spd/4 whatever -- Jolly
Leech Seed
Protect
Encore
U-Turn

Waker of Chaos December 28th, 2007 2:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3203287)
Jumpluff @ Focus Sash
252 HP/252 Spd/4 whatever -- Jolly
Leech Seed
Protect
Encore
U-Turn

Cool, thanks.

It's interesting how we keep posting at the same time. XD

shedinjask December 28th, 2007 2:35 PM

Yeah. I posted that set and then was immediately like 'OH NO I DOUBLE POSTED' but you saved me from it.

Waker of Chaos December 28th, 2007 2:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3203292)
Yeah. I posted that set and then was immediately like 'OH NO I DOUBLE POSTED' but you saved me from it.

You're welcome. ^^

Whee, this thread's fun again.

......... December 28th, 2007 2:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalladeIceMan (Post 3203051)
What's a good moveset and spread for Snorlax?

Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 76 HP / 44 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+Sdef, -Satk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Body Slam / Return
- Rest. Why Nintendo? Why? How dare you betray 3rd Gen's Physical Shadow Ball. Another thing 4th Gen just HAD to ruin.

Shiraishi December 28th, 2007 2:59 PM

Snorlax has Crunch now, not much of a diff :/

shedinjask December 28th, 2007 3:58 PM

Crunch is better in that it can lower Def.

What was the point of having physical Shadow Ball lowering SDef anyways?

ultranerd57 December 28th, 2007 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ......... (Post 3203301)
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 76 HP / 44 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+Sdef, -Satk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Body Slam / Return
- Rest. Why Nintendo? Why? How dare you betray 3rd Gen's Physical Shadow Ball. Another thing 4th Gen just HAD to ruin.

You and Anti shpuld get along greatly you both love bashing 4th gen.

But use Body slam > Return for para hax.

......... December 28th, 2007 5:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3203590)
You and Anti shpuld get along greatly you both love bashing 4th gen.

But use Body slam > Return for para hax.

Yeah, I know. Just some people prefer Return, for some odd reason. x.x

Waker of Chaos December 28th, 2007 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ......... (Post 3203676)
Yeah, I know. Just some people prefer Return, for some odd reason. x.x

It's for the possible slight increase in power.

But I agree, Body Slam is better.

Romo_Owens December 28th, 2007 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ......... (Post 3203301)
Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 76 HP / 44 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+Sdef, -Satk)
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Body Slam / Return
- Rest. Why Nintendo? Why? How dare you betray 3rd Gen's Physical Shadow Ball. Another thing 4th Gen just HAD to ruin.

Are you kidding me? I love the 4th gen changes. Especially the physical/special split. It's just not fair that a Pokemon with great stats haas to be held back just because of the fact that it's Special Attack is a large base and its STABs are physical. Kingler is the perfect example of this.

Plus with Shadow Ball going physical, we can finally call Gengar and Alakazam a rivalry (Gengar wins)

Phoenix Rebirth December 29th, 2007 5:31 AM

Does anyone know a good special wall from 4th Gen?

Shiny December 29th, 2007 6:09 AM

4th gen is ok but I'm a retro kind of guy so I like 3rd gen more,
How is this Meganium,

http://i1.tinypic.com/73omlb9.png @ Leftovers
Overgrow
204Hp / 152Def / 76SAtk / SDef
Bold Nature
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis
- Counter / Reflect

El Gofre December 29th, 2007 8:49 AM

Hi all, ive decided to revisit an old favorite of mine, houndoom. It looks like its best suited to special sweeping, so have a look

[email protected] sash
Timid
252Sp.Att/252Spd/4HP
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse
HP[???]

Nasty plot start, survives with sash, proceeds to sweep. I'd probably go with HP water, but I haven't had a chance to think it through. Any help would be nice :)

Waker of Chaos December 29th, 2007 9:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romo_Owens (Post 3203879)
Are you kidding me? I love the 4th gen changes. Especially the physical/special split. It's just not fair that a Pokemon with great stats haas to be held back just because of the fact that it's Special Attack is a large base and its STABs are physical. Kingler is the perfect example of this.

Plus with Shadow Ball going physical, we can finally call Gengar and Alakazam a rivalry (Gengar wins)

Shadow Ball WAS physical, and is now special.

Dark Azelf December 29th, 2007 9:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3204832)
Hi all, ive decided to revisit an old favorite of mine, houndoom. It looks like its best suited to special sweeping, so have a look

[email protected] sash
Timid
252Sp.Att/252Spd/4HP
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Dark Pulse
HP[???]

Nasty plot start, survives with sash, proceeds to sweep. I'd probably go with HP water, but I haven't had a chance to think it through. Any help would be nice :)

Last Slot should be Hidden power Ground for T-Tar and Heatran who wall you otherwise.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Rebirth (Post 3204552)
Does anyone know a good special wall from 4th Gen?

[email protected]
Bold Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF OR 148 HP / 104 SP.ATT / 252 DEF / 4 SP.DEF
Trait : - Natural Cure
- Seismic Toss
- Ice Beam
- Thunderwave / Aromatherapy / Sing
- Softboiled


Is /THE/ special wall.

Seismic toss allows for it to inflict damage.

Ice Beam allows idiotic bulky ground types to feel pain when they switch in expecting thunderwave and so ghosts with Substitiute dont wall you and set up and most notably prevent Garchomp and other dragons from using you as set up fodder.

Thunderwave Cripples sweepers, whilst Aromatherapy heals the rest of your team. Sing may seem a strange choice given its low accuracy, but is good given Electivire is prone to switch in and get a motor drive if it predicts the more common thunderwave, sing takes that threat out of the match.

Needs max def and bold nature so it does not die to tackle lol, which allows it to survive Cross Chops from Electivire and Close Combats from mixape. It doesnt need many if any sp.def evs as it has ridiculously high hp and already high enough sp.def.

1st evs spread is more defensive.

Second ev spread allows to to pack more power on ice Beam.



Snorlax @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 76 HP / 44 Atk / 136 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature (+Sdef, -Satk)
- Curse
- Earthquake / Fire Punch / Crunch
- Body Slam
- Rest.

Another good choice for a sp.wall, the curselax.

Curse allows you to pack alot of power and raise your defense, so your psuedo invincible on both defensive fronts after a couple.

Earthquake for coverage, most notably against Tyranitar and the like whom resist your main STAB move. Fire Punch is for Skarmory who will commonly come in to Whirlwind you away whilst you curse. Crunch is for ghosts whom are not at all phazed by Body slam.

Body Slam is a nasty move that gains STAB and has a high paralysis rate which is good for crippling sweepers.

Rest is your instant healing move.

Arcknight316 December 29th, 2007 11:29 AM

On my Moltres, should I run HP Grass or HP Ground? Grass is for general coverage, but Ground murders Heatran. Here is my current Moltres:

Moltres @ Life Orb
Modest / Pressure (If I can run ModestOrb on Porygon-Z, then I can run it on Moltres)
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Air Slash
Extrasensory

Geeked December 29th, 2007 2:05 PM

Mild Gengar
i need evs moves item(the whole nine yards)

shedinjask December 29th, 2007 2:22 PM

Moltres needs HP Ground or Fight. Grass is ok if you have a good Heatran counter.

Gengar @ Choice Scarf
64 HP/252 SAttk/192 Spd -- Mild
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Focus Blast

Destiny Bond, Hypnosis, Explosion, and Focus Punch are also options.

Geeked December 29th, 2007 2:38 PM

hp ice? is that a move =O

evilcheese December 29th, 2007 2:47 PM

HP means hidden power and it can be any type so ice is in there

can anyone give me a cursespert (swampert) moveset?


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