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Goldenhammerhead December 26th, 2007 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sk8 (Post 3198401)
Nah sorry, I said weekend cos I don't have wifi 'till then :P

kk so any suggestions to tackle online revolution?

Eleventyseventy December 26th, 2007 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3198402)
kk so any suggestions to tackle online revolution?

uh what do you mean?
I think Waker explained it, didn't he?

"Tackling online revolution" is the same as "tackling D/P online" :)

Waker of Chaos December 26th, 2007 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sk8 (Post 3198388)
Disconnect on uber users. Teach 'em that they won't get wins that way.

In my opinion, that's the same as being defeated, but in this case, by your own cowardice. But that's just me, since I never have believed that running from a battle is a good idea, unless it serves no purpose.

Battles on Pokémon Battle Revolution do serve a purpose in my eyes: To test one's strength.

Goldenhammerhead December 26th, 2007 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3198412)
In my opinion, that's the same as being defeated, but in this case, by your own cowardice. But that's just me, since I never have believed that running from a battle is a good idea, unless it serves no purpose.

Battles on Pokémon Battle Revolution do serve a purpose in my eyes: To test one's strength.

Great explamation. Lets stop going oftopic but kk.
BTW:last off topic post.....pm for battle revolution battle.

ultranerd57 December 26th, 2007 8:10 PM

Can I get a moveset for a mixed sweeper Pikachu ( it has Surf and Volt tackle) and special sweeper Magmortar? Thanks in advance.

Goldenhammerhead December 26th, 2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ultranerd57 (Post 3198786)
Can I get a moveset for a mixed sweeper Pikachu ( it has Surf and Volt tackle) and special sweeper Magmortar? Thanks in advance.

That pika has a hardy nature.........bad
pikas dont fare well but try running this.

Surfing [email protected] orb
128att,128sp att,252speed
surf
volt tackle
thunder wave (ONLY USE WHEN LEAST LIKELY TO BE ATTACKED)
grass knot

Feel free to suggest better.

CrasH December 26th, 2007 11:01 PM

whats a good moveset for Roserade? and Golem?

Waker of Chaos December 26th, 2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3199224)
That pika has a hardy nature.........bad
pikas dont fare well but try running this.

Surfing [email protected] orb
128att,128sp att,252speed
surf
volt tackle
thunder wave (ONLY USE WHEN LEAST LIKELY TO BE ATTACKED)
grass knot

Feel free to suggest better.

She won't be all that good, but the best Pikachu that knows Surf is most likely this one.

Pikachu @ Light Ball; Static
Hardy; 152 Attack, 104 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Volt Tackle
Surf
Brick Break
Substitute / Hidden Power (Ice) / Grass Knot

You can use Focus Punch instead of Brick Break here, but I personally wouldn't, since Brick Break ruins Reflect and Light Screen.

For Crash 529, this is one of the best ways to use Roserade.

Roserade @ Choice Specs; Natural Cure
Timid; 4 HP, 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Leaf Storm
Sludge Bomb
Weather Ball
Hidden Power (Fire)

In order to get Hidden Power to be Fire-type and have the maximum base power of 70, Roserade's IVs must be 30 in all stats, except for Special Defense. That one needs to be the perfect 31.

I can do Golem later.

LethalTexture December 27th, 2007 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanoDance (Post 3196987)
OK, I've decided to make use of a Modest Articuno I migrated from LeafGreen, and I was originally going to go for a scarf/specs variety. However, the prospect of a decent Hidded Power is gone (Steel 31), so I've decided to copy the Agilipoleon set:

Articuno @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Water Pulse
- Ancientpower
- Agility
---

Sure, her movepool isn't very diverse, and Water Pulse/Ancient Power aren't the most powerful attacks in the world, but all three have an added effect. Ice Beam could freeze, Water Pulse confuses and Ancientpower can raise all stats. I believe she can reach more than 500 speed after one agility. If I can put her in a team with Nasty Plot passing support, I should be good to go, although her decent defences mean she could do OK on her own.

Any thoughts?

Anyone got any ideas here?

Plus, I'm gonna be using her in an UU/BL team. At which time I introduce you to my Physical sweeper:


Primeape @ Choice Band
Ability: Anger Point
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 Atk
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake/Stone Edge
- U-Turn
---

Aerial Ace is mainly there in case I come up against any Heracoss, because this thing will outspeed Adamant/Jolly CBcross. CC for STAB, EQ for coverage (although I could replace this for Stone Edge, because it hits the same stuff as CC), and U-Turn to cause damage if I need to switch to a counter.

Angelic Diablo December 27th, 2007 1:09 AM

[email protected] Band
Brave/Relaxed Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Rock Slide
-Hammer Arm/Focus Punch/Brick Break
-Explosion/Gyro Ball

45 Base Speed calls for Trick Room support, Choice Band allows it to hit somethings hard, while its respectable 130 Def makes it tankish

Earthquake is an obvious move, almost all physical sweepers that can have it, will have it. Stone Edge is a powerful choice, but Rock Slide is for fear of accuracy (it still ain't good, but its better). CB Focus Punch is something I always like, but Hammer Arm or even Brick Break provide other options. Finally Explosion and CB = pain, even Skarmory will take a huge dent when this thing blows up in it's face, Gyro Ball is there if you don't want to explode, and it also takes advantage of el crapo speedo.

I will not go into more novelty sets, they just get too hard and confusing at the best of times

Goldenhammerhead December 27th, 2007 1:39 AM

Can anyone give me a good fire type wall/tank....no ubers.

Waker of Chaos December 27th, 2007 1:54 AM

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Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3199381)
Can anyone give me a good fire type wall/tank....no ubers.

I don't think there's any such thing as an uber-class Fire-type Pokémon used as a wall or tank.

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Relaxed; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Explosion
Rapid Spin
Yawn / Toxic

Yes, I know Torkoal is UU-class. It's still good as a Rapid Spinner, though. There's also a Rest/Sleep Talk set.

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Impish; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Rapid Spin
Rest
Sleep Talk

One's for offense, and one's for defense. Which one's best for your team is up to you.

You can also use Heatran, whom I believe is considered to be OU-class.

Heatran @ Leftovers; Flash Fire
Modest; 244 HP, 136 Special Attack, 128 Speed
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Sleep Talk
Rest

And I guess you could use Magcargo, but the double weaknesses to Ground and Water will wipe him out every time.

Magcargo @ Leftovers; Flame Body
Bold; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Light Screen
Reflect
Stealth Rock

Of these, the best one is Heatran, with Torkoal placing second. Heatran's hard to get correct, though, considering there's only one in the game. Torkoal would be easier to get, but nowhere near as powerful.

Goldenhammerhead December 27th, 2007 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3199386)
I don't think there's any such thing as an uber-class Fire-type Pokémon used as a wall or tank.

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Relaxed; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Explosion
Rapid Spin
Yawn / Toxic

Yes, I know Torkoal is UU-class. It's still good as a Rapid Spinner, though. There's also a Rest/Sleep Talk set.

Torkoal @ Leftovers; White Smoke
Impish; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Rapid Spin
Rest
Sleep Talk

One's for offense, and one's for defense. Which one's best for your team is up to you.

You can also use Heatran, whom I believe is considered to be OU-class.

Heatran @ Leftovers; Flash Fire
Modest; 244 HP, 136 Special Attack, 128 Speed
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Sleep Talk
Rest

And I guess you could use Magcargo, but the double weaknesses to Ground and Water will wipe him out every time.

Magcargo @ Leftovers; Flame Body
Bold; 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
Lava Plume
Light Screen
Reflect
Stealth Rock

Of these, the best one is Heatran, with Torkoal placing second. Heatran's hard to get correct, though, considering there's only one in the game. Torkoal would be easier to get, but nowhere near as powerful.

I HATE macargo and heatran is a legend......+ i nub trained him XD so i guess im using the rapid spinner torcoal...unless someone else has an idea.

Waker of Chaos December 27th, 2007 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3199390)
I HATE macargo and heatran is a legend......+ i nub trained him XD so i guess im using the rapid spinner torcoal...unless someone else has an idea.

Not all legendary Pokémon are ubers. Look at Entei and Moltres for example.

Anyway, those three are the only Fire-types in the game that can actually defend. Everything else is a sweeper of some kind, even Ho-Oh.

Goldenhammerhead December 27th, 2007 2:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3199395)
Not all legendary Pokémon are ubers. Look at Entei and Moltres for example.

Anyway, those three are the only Fire-types in the game that can actually defend. Everything else is a sweeper of some kind, even Ho-Oh.

Yeah but i prefer normal straight out pokes.

Archer December 27th, 2007 2:07 AM

Or as a Special Tank...

Ninetales @ Lefties
Calm | 252 HP / 180 SDef / 80 SAtk
~Calm Mind
~Flamethrower
~Dark Pulse
~Hypnosis

Ninetales @ Chesto Berry*/Lefties^
Calm | 252 HP / 180 SDef / 80 SAtk
~Nasty Plot
~Flamethrower
~Dark Pulse
~Rest*/Roar^

Goldenhammerhead December 27th, 2007 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Archer (Post 3199399)
Or as a Special Tank...

Ninetales @ Lefties
Calm | 252 HP / 180 SDef / 80 SAtk
~Calm Mind
~Flamethrower
~Dark Pulse
~Hypnosis

Ninetales @ Chesto Berry*/Lefties^
Calm | 252 HP / 180 SDef / 80 SAtk
~Nasty Plot
~Flamethrower
~Dark Pulse
~Rest*/Roar^

Oh wait....BYE BYE torcoal...that ninetails is EVIL.

Waker of Chaos December 27th, 2007 2:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3199405)
Oh wait....BYE BYE torcoal...that ninetails is EVIL.

It's weak to Stealth Rock and can't do squat about it, nor can it take an Earthquake/Stone Edge and survive, assuming no critical hit.

Use Torkoal if your team is more threatened by Rock or Ground attacks. Use Ninetales if your team is more threatened by Water, and has no problem with entry hazards. Considering this, Torkoal's better.

Goldenhammerhead December 27th, 2007 2:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Waker of Chaos (Post 3199406)
It's weak to Stealth Rock and can't do squat about it, nor can it take an Earthquake/Stone Edge and survive, assuming no critical hit.

Use Torkoal if your team is more threatened by Rock or Ground attacks. Use Ninetales if your team is more threatened by Water, and has no problem with entry hazards. Considering this, Torkoal's better.

Yeah....now torkoal is back again.

ultranerd57 December 27th, 2007 5:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hammerhead (Post 3199224)
That pika has a hardy nature.........bad
pikas dont fare well but try running this.

Surfing [email protected] orb
128att,128sp att,252speed
surf
volt tackle
thunder wave (ONLY USE WHEN LEAST LIKELY TO BE ATTACKED)
grass knot

Feel free to suggest better.

It keeps the moveswhen you breed it I think so I'm going to try for a timid one.

So what about Magmortar?

CrasH December 27th, 2007 11:53 AM

IS golem usally a physical sweeper? I was thinking more of a DEF set up? or is that just a bad idea?

ultranerd57 December 27th, 2007 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash 529 (Post 3200305)
IS golem usally a physical sweeper? I was thinking more of a DEF set up? or is that just a bad idea?

No its a physical wall. It could sweep in a Trick Room team though.

CrasH December 27th, 2007 12:03 PM

then why the brave nature???

ultranerd57 December 27th, 2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash 529 (Post 3200328)
then why the brave nature???

Ok what are you talking about?
Brave nature (+Atk, -Spd)
That is perfectly fine for a Golem.

Romo_Owens December 27th, 2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash 529 (Post 3199241)
whats a good moveset for Roserade? and Golem?

Roserade @ Choice Specs

Leaf Storm or Energy ball
Hidden Power (fire)
Sludge Bomb
Extrasensory
Trait: Natural cure
Evs: 252 spd/252 sp.atk/4 sp.def
Timid nature (+spd, -atk) Modest nature (+sp.atk, -atk)

[email protected] Lifeorb/leftovers

Rock Polish
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Double Edge/Focus Punch/Explosion
Trait: Rock head
Evs: 252 spd/252 stk/4 def
Adamant Nature (+atk, -sp. atk), Jolly nature (+spd, -sp. atk)


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