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Frostweaver January 14th, 2006 1:59 AM

Magical Recursion Dimension (YGO)
 
You know that an upcoming card cries to be abused in its own deck... and I'm very sure we all know what that is.

Monsters (18)
Dark Magician of Chaos
Chaos Sorcerer
Different Dimension Master
Different Dimension Master

Mythical Beast Cerberus*
Toon Gemini Elf
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Apprentice Magician
Apprentice Magician
Apprentice Magician
Old Vindictive Magician
Old Vindictive Magician
Injection Fairy Lily
D. D. Warrior Lady
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Assailant
Magician of Faith
Sangan

Spells (17)
Magical Dimension*
Magical Dimension*
Magical Dimension*
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Giant Trunade
Toon Table of Content
Toon Table of Content
Reinforcement of the Army
Nobleman of Crossout
Dark Hole
Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Premature Burial
Pot of Avarice

Traps (5)
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute
Magician's Circle
Magician's Circle
Magician's Circle


Mystical Beast Cerberus*
Spellcaster/Effect - Light - Level 4 - 1400/1400
Each time you or your opponent activates 1 Spell Card, put 1 Spell Counter on this card. Increase the ATK of this card by 500 points for each Spell Counter on this card. At the end of the Battle Phase of the turn this card battles, remove all Spell Counters from this card.

Magical Dimension*
You can only activate this card while there is a face-up Spellcaster-Type monster(s) on your side of the field. Tribute 1 monster on your side of the field and Special Summon 1 Spellcaster-Type monster from your hand. Then you can destroy 1 monster on the field.


A highly offensive deck that has the potential to swarm pretty fast. Apprentices can special summon her best pals again, and those flipped casters are just ideal for Magical Dimension to bring out the more powerful spellcasters. Dark Magician of Chaos is danger for any opponent, and the easy access to DDM to bring him back with all those free copies of Toon Table of Content really doesn't help at all. Chaos Sorcerer helps remove monsters into the remove pile to add to the collection of monsters the DDM can revive with. The other DD Monsters can further contribute to the remove pile to ensure that there's always something to revive.

There's just no defense except for the monsters' effect... ah well, can't have everything. Then again a *lot* of monsters here can destroy stuff (or revive stuff that can destroy stuff.) I added as much self-replacing monsters as possible to help out with the lack of choo-choos or camels. Hopefully they'll be enough. It's all about luck in this deck. If Dark Magician of Chaos comes to my hand really early (like, within first 5 turns at latest), then this deck will probably go on a very smooth ride...

So in the end, it's about bringing Dark Magician of Chaos with Magical Dimension, and utilize the numerous methods to bring out DDM as well to continously revive Dark Magician of Chaos for a very possible infinite loop.

Fix and Rate, please?

MegaDitto January 14th, 2006 6:29 AM

I see the combo but not a lot of abuse in the deck.

1 Chaos Sorcerer may not be enough for the deck. I don't really see a lot of lights in this deck though. The idea of the swarm can really make a OTK. I would try some more Mythical Beast Cerberus in the deck. I would try some Kycoo's in there. The deck may need more of a off stragety than what it is now. The tribute monsters are the main part of the deck, right?

Overall I like it.

Frostweaver January 14th, 2006 12:26 PM

I know. I do realize that there isn't enough light, and I did try to add more light/Chaos Sorcerer to make it chaos heavy. Then again... usually it's magical merchant as the other light monster, but this deck actually needs quite a bit of monster. Different Dimension Master itself is also light, which helps a bit there.

Actually I wanted to add another Cerberus for quite awhile because it's like one of those Wave Motion Cannon unwritten psychological effect of "don't play spells unless it's a smashing ground, or else." I think that I saw a spot for it...

-1 Pot of Avarice (why am I using it if this is chaos... blah)
+1 Mythical Beast Cerberus

Thanks for the help!

MegaDitto January 14th, 2006 4:31 PM

No thanks. I did'nt actuaully help with the deck. If lights are needed. You could use The Unhappy Maiden instead of the Old Vindictive Magician. Though it's monster desruction that would be taken out. The Unhappy Maiden ends the Battle Phase with no exepctions. So it's defensive. Like Waboku for example. Level 1, Spellcaster , life-saving and light? It's perfect for the deck.

Another useful light monster and one that will give speed and field control. Royal Magical Library. It fits well in the deck as another spellcaster. It's has 2000 defense. Also vestaile with Magician's Circle And with your look of the retriving spells it's counters will build up and give you drawpower to draw the cards that can help and finish the game. I would use it instead of the The Unhappy Maiden for this deck. But I'm not sure what would you want for the deck.

I would just suggest to take out the Apprentice Magician play and use

Royal Magical Library
Royal Magical Library
Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
Mythical Beast Cerberus/Chaos Sorcerer(another one to create the loop you planned for)

I know that the deck needs the Apprentice Magician as the dark monster in the graveyard for Chaos Sorcerer, but ins't Dark Magician of Chaos for that?

I suggest a Royal Decree instead of a 3rd Magician's Circle. For more defense anginst cards like Bottomless Trap Hole.

I would also suggest to take out Reinforcement of the Army since you only have 3 warriors in the deck.(call me crazy but I think it may be a bad topdeck in the deck) I would try Book of Moon instead.

I hope that helps.

Orochi Breakwing January 20th, 2006 11:32 PM

*shakes head back and forth*

No, no this wont do at all. Dimension Magic ( i blatently refuse to call it Magical Dimension. THough I really habve no choice...) IS a nice card and everything, but if you dont have a solid monster board, then its gonna go to hell.

This one seems to have issues all over the place, like 2x Toon TOC, lack of DM, stuff like that.
DM now has about 40 ways to summon him. USE A FEW.

A friend of mine built this. My version is incomplete.

EDIT: I am NOT sure how that happened, but yeah.

/// Mages ///

Sacred Pheonix of Nephthtys
Dark Magician of Chaos
Dark Magician

Skilled Dark Magician
Skilled Dark Magician
Skilled Dark Magician
Gravekeeper's Spy
Gravekeeper's Spy
Apprentice Magician
Apprentice Magician
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Old Vindicative Magician
Gravekeeper's Gaurd
Royal Magical Library
Hand of Nephthtys
Toon Gemini Elf
Magician of Faith
Tsukuyomi
Sangan

/// 19 Mages //

/// Magics ///

Toon Table of Contents
Toon Table of Contents
Toon Table of Contents
Magical Dimension
Magical Dimension
Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Mystical Space Typhoon
Nobleman of Crossout
My Body as a Shield
Premature Burial
Book of Moon
Heavy Storm
Dark Hole

// 14 Magics //

// Sharp Pointy Objects //

Sakurestu Armor
Sakurestu Armor
Sakurestu Armor
Ready for Intercepting
Bottomless Trap Hole
Call of the Haunted
Trap Hole

// 7 Daggers //


Im in love with that setup. It works ratehr well.

MegaDitto January 22nd, 2006 9:17 AM

Who are you shaking your head to?

It is exepctable that the build would have Nepthys in it. I know it has the spellcaster support thing in it but it cant be sure. Mabye a Mobius.

The build looks great overall.

But I would really add a Royal Decree in it. I would take out Ready for Intercepting. It seems that Mook of Moon and Tsukuyomi would seem good enough flip control. A Skilled Dark Magician out for another Toon Gemini Elf would be good. To make sure Toon Table of Contents would accurately thin.
The spell lineup is perfect, but mabye Creature Swap would fit.

Your decision though as said before.

I would use this deck in a Dark Magician of Chaos otk version if I had a build like this.

stefin February 1st, 2006 2:16 PM

omg
 
oh my god what kind of spellcaster deck id with out a dark magician girl, and chaos command magician?:shocked:

MegaDitto February 2nd, 2006 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefin
oh my god what kind of spellcaster deck id with out a dark magician girl, and chaos command magician?:shocked:

That easy............a spellcaster deck.

Many spellcasters decks are made in different ways. There are many in the game that has dominated the meta , but can they all fit into 1 deck. The 2 spellcasters you mentioned are helpful in their own decks but aren't for all themes.Chaos Command Magician gained massive play last format with it's effect that targets many monsters. One of the most used that targets,Black Luster Soldier-Envoy the Beginning. It depends on the meta also on how the cards are played and the ban list at that current time.

Mullet February 4th, 2006 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostweaver
Monsters (18)
Dark Magician of Chaos
Chaos Sorcerer
Different Dimension Master
Different Dimension Master

Mythical Beast Cerberus*
Toon Gemini Elf
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Apprentice Magician
Apprentice Magician
Apprentice Magician
Old Vindictive Magician
Old Vindictive Magician
Injection Fairy Lily
D. D. Warrior Lady
D. D. Assailant
D. D. Assailant
Magician of Faith
Sangan

Spells (17)
Magical Dimension*
Magical Dimension*
Magical Dimension*
Mystical Space Typhoon
Heavy Storm
Giant Trunade
Toon Table of Content
Toon Table of Content
Reinforcement of the Army
Nobleman of Crossout
Dark Hole
Smashing Ground
Smashing Ground
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
Premature Burial
Pot of Avarice

Traps (5)
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute
Magician's Circle
Magician's Circle
Magician's Circle

Okay I haven't posted in here in a while so here I go...

Great deck but is the Toon Gemini really needed?

Side board the Machine Gun!
:D

Orochi Breakwing February 5th, 2006 12:36 PM

I reappeared out of the dark to mention about DMOC + Magical Dimension's timing clash.

Keep in mind you will be able to use only ONE of the two optional effects, either pop a monster, or retrieve a spell. Not that that's that much of a downside, just keep it in mind.

Frostweaver February 5th, 2006 1:08 PM

If you got Dark Magician of Chaos out to the field, you'll definitely want to get a magic card over destroying a monster... afterall, the magic card that you retrieve can very likely do much more damaging stuff than just destroying one monster.

Sorry for not replying for a long time... yes I know that DM should be used now as it's finally usable in many ways, but then since everyone else is already making decks with him in it... let's give other spellcasters some light =D

I recognize the problem regarding the inability to really keep field presence that high without the apprentice toolbox dying a lot in this deck... and then realize that the magician's circle is really more pointless than I imagined =( They're better off in Dark Magician deck where they're a severe dead draw and does need the additional traps to bring it out even easier, to the point that they lose room for sakuretsu armor to protect the monsters.

I did think about using library but then I omitted it in the end... guess it's a mistake to think that Cerberus can really always boost its attack to the 1900 (that's just 1 magic card from the opponent) and maintain some field presence. However... that's a mistake as they'll much rather not using any magic card even if they can, and jsut normal attack that turn >>;

That Ready for Intercepting is a good tech... I completely forgot about the existance of that card *shall refuse the urge to copy that*

-3 Magician's Circle
+3 Sakuretsu Armor

-1 Chaos Sorcerer
+1 Toon Table of Content

-1 Mythical Beast Cerberus
+1 Royal Magical Library

-1 Giant Trunade
-1 Torrential Tribute
+2 Bottomless Traphole

Orochi Breakwing February 6th, 2006 7:16 PM

Cerberus > Library...

RML is a really, really bad idea. It hasnt worked...ever. Cerebus' power lies in his love for Rush Recklessly. Rush makes him 2600 and smashes on ANY big creature thats played often nowadays.

Also, Bottomless is a good idea, but lacking Torrential is a BAD idea.

-Bottomless
+Torrential

-RML
+Cerebrus..

Forci Stikane February 18th, 2006 11:17 AM

...MD's destruction is part of the same card effect, so DMOC shouldn't be missed because of it...

...And it might not be a DM deck, but with 3 Magician's Circles, you should go ahead and add a Dark Magician Girl or two, at least to the side. It's a good, quick beatstick, and since DM decks are probably going to pop up a lot more now with MD out, it can get a nice boost depending on the opponent.


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