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Deathspector February 22nd, 2006 1:39 AM

Gary or Ash
 
Forgive me if this thread hs been posted here before, but I feel the need to justify a couple of points about these two. Also, feel free to vote in the poll, but please post as well. I don't only want this an opinion thread, but I want it a descussion thread, so start debating.

In my opinion, Gary far outsttrips Ash in all fields of Pokèmon training. Unlike Ash, he understands a lot more about Pokèmon training, and his goal is, unlike Ahs's of becoming a Pokèmon Master, remains unknown to the viewers of the animè.

He also has a team of Pokèmon that technically, can roll Ash over. What do y'all think?

Ravecat February 22nd, 2006 2:19 AM

I agree with you, Ash can be an... idiot... sometimes.

Crosman February 22nd, 2006 3:05 AM

I would vote Ash even know Gary has Golem, Blastoise and Alakazam. (three of my favorites)

Shiny Meganium February 22nd, 2006 3:14 AM

I like Gary. He has a cool Umbreon. Gary's Pokemon are a lot more supreme.

Drummershuff February 22nd, 2006 3:49 AM

I'd vote for Ash. I prefer his Pokemon to Gary's but I do think that Gary's Pokemon are maybe a bit stronger than Ash's.

Ejunknown February 22nd, 2006 7:35 AM

Definetly Gary. Not only did he start with an Eevee, he is stronger and smarter than Ash.

Imagination Ninja February 22nd, 2006 8:16 AM

id vote for Ash as i prefer him to Gary , I Know Garys smart and he has cool pokemon. But i prefer Ash as he is quite funny in the first series and he's pokemon are awesome his Pikachu's is cool and has quite powerful eletric attacks and i love his Grovlye because its sooooooooo cool. Anyway i vote for Ash,. Even though sometimes i also think Gary's pokemon are stronger than Ash's.

Crystal Clair February 22nd, 2006 10:05 AM

I voted Gary, even though I love Ash to bits. But I've liked Gary over Ash since the beginning, way back when I first saw him. Gary's character design was so cool and how he was so much better than Ash was so cool.
I just didn't like when Ash found out his Krabby was much smaller than Gary's, LET KRABBY BE!

Decepticon February 22nd, 2006 11:54 AM

Ash I guess, hes got Squirtle!!1
and in the first season i liked how they made him so stupid it always made me laugh. now that Ash is smarter the show isnt as good... but i do like alot of gary's pokemon *coughumbreoncough*

Lily February 22nd, 2006 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ejunknown
Definetly Gary. Not only did he start with an Eevee, he is stronger and smarter than Ash.

Actually, he started out with a Squirtle. I believe one of the episodes explained that part, although it's still vague. Starting out with an Eevee would be contradicting the first episode.

If we're talking about the first series, I'd vote for Ash. His character isn't bad, considering the growth of his so-called development, but it just doesn't appeal as much anymore.

...But if I had to choose, it'd still be Ash, for some odd reason. =P

Ravecat February 22nd, 2006 10:15 PM

Well, I still think Gary started with Eevee.

and Oak is his grandfather...

Decepticon February 22nd, 2006 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emerald Ex
Well, I still think Gary started with Eevee.

and Oak is his grandfather...

in the episode where ash fights gary in the johto league brock says "theres the blastoise that gary started with when he began his pokemon journey"
or somthing like that. so blastoise is his starter even though he seems to have more of a bond with eevee/umbreon in some episodes it shows.

*~Silver~* February 22nd, 2006 11:37 PM

Nope I remember that episode, he started with a Squirtle, Also yah I vote for Gary, he's got over 200 pokemon, he has lots of different strong pokemon, and he plain looks cooler. Also what happened to Gary? I don't think I've seen him all of Honen (He could at least appear once!!!)

Deathspector February 23rd, 2006 3:11 AM

Yep, lots of people think that Gary started with his Eevee that later evolved into Umbreon, but it's a fact that he started with Squirtle. In the Silver Conference, Gary battles Ash with a Blastoise, which was his starter, and that's another thing...Ash always seems to win, no matter what. he beat a Blastoise with a Charizard for Christ's sake.

And his first battle with Brock...unbelieveable.

In my opinion, if the Gym Leaders had gone on Ash with full force, he'd still be fighting Brock. The stubborn bastard...

ponyta rules February 23rd, 2006 5:37 AM

I like them both the same really.I like Ash as he's more friendlier than Gary but i think Gary is a bit better looking than Ash but i like their Pokemon much the same.

Deathspector February 23rd, 2006 11:58 PM

I thought that I'd put together this set of gymas that Ash batled in kanto, and see what happened.

Pewter City
Gym Leader: Brock
Outcome: Brock felt sorry for Ash.

Cerulean City
Gym Leader: Misty
Outcome: Team Rocket...bleah.

Vermillion City
Gym Leader: Lt. Surge
Outcome: He one fair and square, but Pikachu versus Raichu? Bullshit.

Saffron City
Gym Leader: Sabrina
Outcome: he made her laugh...what a strategy.

Celadon City
Gym Leader: Erika
Outcome: Team Rocket again.

Fuchsia City
Gym Leader: Koga
Outcome: Team Rocket, yet again...

Cinnabar Island
Gym Leader: Blaine
Outcome: Okay, this was one of my favourite gym battles, that was actually worthy. Charizard pwnz Magmar.

Viridian City
Gym Leader: Giovanni.
Outcome: Giovanni had to go on unexpected leave...honestly.

Hikarii February 24th, 2006 1:18 PM

Ah, but Ash is still learning, yes? That's why he's still on his Pokemon journey. ^^; Sure, Gary's smarter, and probably better at Pokemon than Ash is, but I still prefer Ash. (Forget the fact that I love him right now. XD) I guess... Probably because he's kind of stupid and makes lots of mistakes, and since he's still learning, he's making a great role model for me. xx; Never give up, heh.

Himawarii February 24th, 2006 1:42 PM

Finally,something diffrent from the May vs. Misty or Kikyo vs. kagome threads xDD

Well,I vote Gary.Badass boys are awesome.Plus he's a Pokemon team is pretty decent to my standards =D

fallen_natsumixx February 24th, 2006 2:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ejunknown
Definetly Gary. Not only did he start with an Eevee, he is stronger and smarter than Ash.

... Gary started with a Squirtle. 0_o They didn't show his Eevee until Johto.

Gary, definately. Gary should've beaten Ash but Ash being the main character, of course, wins. -_-U

At first, I didn't like Gary at all but later on, I began to like him more and more while I began to dislike Ash, Misty, Brock, May and Max even more and more.

Rai February 24th, 2006 2:20 PM

I never really liked Gary. Dunno why O.o

So, I say Ashy!! <3

=D

Aegis February 24th, 2006 4:27 PM

I have to say Ash, even though they made him WAY to mature in the new series

Spinor February 24th, 2006 5:30 PM

stupid people -_-gary is the stupid retardet idiotic(whatever retarded means @[email protected]) taking out the r spells gay which gary is...gay(whatever gay [email protected][email protected]/XD)ash is better than gary!gary is retired as a pokemon trainer anyway

also hikarii...ash is may's

Soul-Music February 24th, 2006 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandadvanceshipper
stupid people -_-gary is the stupid retardet idiotic(whatever retarded means @[email protected]) taking out the r spells gay which gary is...gay(whatever gay [email protected][email protected]/XD)ash is better than gary!gary is retired as a pokemon trainer anyway

also hikarii...ash is may's

Do you really have to bash any character or people before you answer a topic?

Ahem...

Ash definitely! He's cool and pretty determined. And beside I can see multiple personalities in him (personal perception), that's about it.

Mario The World Champion February 24th, 2006 9:58 PM

Ash or Gary?

I'm not voting because of two reasons.

1: Gary first makes himself out as an arrogant jerk at the start of the series and his skills as a Pokemon trainer could wipe the floor with Ash and all of his unevolved Pokemon.

2: Ash has been the show forever and is makes himself look like an idiot sometimes, which is good, but he never gets any cool Pokemon and when he does get a new one, they never evolve!!

So... I'm split on this one.

Deathspector February 24th, 2006 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grandadvanceshipper
stupid people -_-gary is the stupid retardet idiotic(whatever retarded means @[email protected]) taking out the r spells gay which gary is...gay(whatever gay [email protected][email protected]/XD)ash is better than gary!gary is retired as a pokemon trainer anyway

Listen dude, I don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not, but not knowing what retarded menas is just sad. Of course, it also means you're a retard. there's no reason to diss Gary that much. Look at everyone else. They're just poiting out their point of views without insulting the other character.

Now that that's over and doen with, I'd like to state one more thing. This isn't just a poll, but a debate thread, and I want everyone to keep on debating. Go for it!


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