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mew_rocks March 22nd, 2006 8:42 PM

Where is the best place to train for the elite 4?
 
Hi. I just started my third file on pokemon leafgreen and was wondering where you guys think the best place to train your pokemon for the elite 4 the first time round. Mine are all around 50-54.

Egyptian Sphinx March 22nd, 2006 8:44 PM

I suggest to get your team around level 60 or 65 which they would be better to beat the Elite 4

mew_rocks March 22nd, 2006 8:45 PM

Yes but i'm asking where. I have finished the game loads of times.

Egyptian Sphinx March 22nd, 2006 8:53 PM

The best place to train your Pokemon is Victory Road since that area has quite higher levled pokemon to battle against with

shanecdavis March 23rd, 2006 7:17 AM

If your Pokes are already Lv50-54, you don't need to train anymore.

Patamon_Master March 24th, 2006 3:27 AM

yeh i got 2 the elite 4 once my strongest was my charizard lvl 54 the rest were all lvl 47 or under

Smarties-chan March 24th, 2006 8:41 AM

The best place to train before the Pokéleague imo, is west from Lavender town. Just use the VS seeker near the the lasses and super nerds.
Most of them have low leveled Pokémon, but the lass on the bottom should have pretty high leveled Pokémon, like a level 47 Pidgeot.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ March 24th, 2006 1:02 PM

The only time you have to worry about leveling up to t 60-75level is when you want to beat the Elite 4 again after you finished solving the problems

:t003:Dark Venusaur

shanecdavis March 24th, 2006 1:11 PM

Actually, what you do is continually beat the E4 to get your Poke levels up before you even go to the Sevii Islands. That way your Pokes are already to go and you will far very well on the Islands and you will be more prepared for the second level of the E4.

BTW - I think having the second level of the E4 is awesome. I sure wish Emerald could have somehow incorporated that.

mew_rocks March 24th, 2006 8:27 PM

It's all good now i've beaten the elite 4. My strategy is vs. seeker all the bikers at the top of cycling road till all my pokemon are lvl 50. Then train on the elite 4. (Even though I lost a lot of money.) Cheers anyway.

Shining Salamence March 26th, 2006 3:47 PM

i find that the challenge is training for the e4 the second time. I'm trying to level up all my pkmn to 70-80 and I'm not even sure that'll work. *is nervous*

shanecdavis March 27th, 2006 8:27 AM

If you have a balanced team that is Lv70-80, you should be able to handle the E4 quite easily. Here is what you are going to face:

Lorelei:
Dewgong (Lv64) - Thunderbolt/Cross Chop
Piloswine (Lv63) - Surf/Flamethrower/Cross Chop
Cloyster (Lv63) - Thunderbolt/Cross Chop
Jynx (Lv66) - Flamethrower/Crunch/Shadow Ball
Lapras (Lv66) - Thunderbolt/Cross Chop

She has 2 Full Restores and will use them as soon as one of her Pokes drops below 1/3 HP. Cloyster will use Rain Dance, so feel free to use Thunder (100% accurate with RD) instead of Thunderbolt. Jynx is female and will use Attract, be aware. Lapras is a tank, so if you have Toxic, it will help.

Bruno:
Steelix (Lv65) - Surf/Earthquake
Steelix (Lv66) - Surf/Earthquake
Hitmonchan (Lv65) - Psychic/Aerial Ace
Hitmonlee (Lv65) - Psychic/Aerial Ace
Machamp (Lv68) - Psychic/Aerial Ace

He also has 2 FR. DO NOT use Flying-type Pokes against the last three, as they are equipped with Rock Slide. Your best bet is to use Aerial Ace with a non-Flying-type or better yet, Gengar with Psychic. It can blow through the last three with ease since it is Immune to 75% of their moves. Be aware though that Hitmonlee has Foresight as wel.

Agatha:
Gengar (Lv66) - Crunch/Shadow Ball/Psychic
Misdreavus (Lv65) - Crunch/Shadow Ball
Crobat (Lv66) - Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Psychic/Rock Throw
Arbok (Lv68) - Psychic/Earthquake
Gengar (Lv70) - Crunch/Shadow Ball/Psychic

2 FR. Misdreavus is male and will Attract on you. Crobat is VERY fast and can hit hard. Go with a fast Electric Poke or a Poke that can take a physical and hit back with TB/IB/RS. Arbok abuses Double Team. The second Gengar (Lv70) knows Thunderbolt and Psychic so plan accordingly. Tyranitar with TB owns Agatha.

Lance:
Gyarados (Lv68) - Thunderbolt/Rock Slide
Aerodactyl (Lv70) - Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Rock Slide/Surf
Dragonite (Lv66) - Ice Beam/Dragon Claw
Dragonite (Lv72) - Ice Beam/Dragon Claw
Kingdra (Lv66) - Dragon Claw/Earthquake

2 FR. Don't allow Gyarados any time to set up because it will first Thunder Wave, and then Dragon Dance in order to try to sweep you with Earthquake or finish your Poke off with Hyper Beam. Then again, this is the AI so you don't have to worry too much. A quick Electric Poke can handle it easily with its 4x weakness to Thunderbolt. DO NOT use an Electric Poke against Aerodactyl. It has Earthquake and it is one of the fastest Pokes in the game. Use a Water Poke with IB or Surf instead. Both Dragonite go down hard to IB, just be aware that the Lv70 version holds a Persim Berry and knows TB. Kingdra also likes to DD, and is only weak to Dragon-types moves. That said, its Def isn't that great so you can use EQ against it pretty well.

Gary:
Heracross (Lv72) - Aerial Ace/Flamethrower/Psychic
Tyranitar (Lv72) - Cross Chop/Earthquake/Surf
Alakazam (Lv73) - Crunch/Shadow Ball
Bulbasaur starter:
Gyarados (Lv73) - Thunderbolt/Rock Slide
Exeggutor (Lv73) - Flamethrower/Crunch/Aerial Ace/Shadow Ball/Ice Beam
Charizard (Lv75) - Rock Slide/Thunderbolt/Surf
Charmander starter:
Exeggutor (Lv73) - Flamethrower/Crunch/Aerial Ace/Shadow Ball/Ice Beam
Arcanine (Lv73) - Surf/Earthquake/Rock Slide
Blastoise (Lv75) - Thunderbolt
Squirtle starter:
Arcanine (Lv73) - Surf/Earthquake/Rock Slide
Gyarados (Lv73) - Thunderbolt/Rock Slide
Venusaur (Lv75) - Flamethrower/Aerial Ace/Ice Beam/Psychic

FOUR Full Restores. Heracross will use Counter, so either use a weak move to drop its HP down 1/3 before using a power move, or make sure you can OHKO it. Alakazam now has Calm Mind and Shadow Ball so plan accordingly. Tyranitar is a real ***** if you are not prepared. Naturally you would think to bring in a Water Poke, but that would be a mistake since this Tar knows TB. Go with Cross Chop. This Gyara is the same as Lance's. Exeggutor shouldn't pose much of a threat. Arcanine has Overheat, which is a good one shot, and it has Extremespeed that can be bothersome. Charizard knows Earthquake, so don't go running out an Electric Poke against it. Venusaur knows EQ too, but for some reason will never use it. Just roast it. Blastoise is just beginning for a Thunder/Thunderbolt.

It is very lame that when you beat Gary for the SECOND time, he still acts like he was the champion, but he can dream I guess. Don't think it would have been too hard for the developers to change that sequence, but what are you going to do, eh?

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ March 28th, 2006 4:30 AM

Cross Chop does have a very good crital hit ratio but people should use moves that have good accuracy like 100. Brick break's Power base is 70 and its accuracy is 100.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

shanecdavis March 28th, 2006 5:19 AM

That only applies to competitive battling. In-game, Cross Chop is much better than Brick Break, especially considering that you can replenish your PP during an in-game battle AND use healing items. Unlike Thunder, Fire Blast, and Blizzard which are only 70% accurate, CC is 80%, which is more reliable. Against the E4, you should definitely use CC over BB.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ March 28th, 2006 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis
That only applies to competitive battling. In-game, Cross Chop is much better than Brick Break, especially considering that you can replenish your PP during an in-game battle AND use healing items. Unlike Thunder, Fire Blast, and Blizzard which are only 70% accurate, CC is 80%, which is more reliable. Against the E4, you should definitely use CC over BB.

I know that *very annoyed*. All I said was that Brick break is good in certain places and like you said with Cross Chop you are right.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Shining Salamence April 2nd, 2006 9:11 AM

You can use my 1st hall of fame team:

L42 Dewgong
L45 Hypno
L49 Raichu
L47 Pidgeot
L52 Moltres
L55 Blastoise (If you don'thave blastoise you could always use slowbro)

also, i prefer brick break over Cross Chop, since it's easier to teach your pokemon

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ April 2nd, 2006 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shining Salamence
You can use my 1st hall of fame team:

L42 Dewgong
L45 Hypno
L49 Raichu
L47 Pidgeot
L52 Moltres
L55 Blastoise (If you don'thave blastoise you could always use slowbro)

also, i prefer brick break over Cross Chop, since it's easier to teach your pokemon

That really doesn't seem resonable to battle with since the highest level Pokemon there is in lv.63 or something like that. But you should show the moves of the Pokemon. Otherwise you really shouldn't put Pokemon's names up there with the levels that are too low to compete in the E4.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Patamon_Master April 5th, 2006 3:57 AM

one ilands trust me VS seeker there

shanecdavis April 5th, 2006 7:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Venusaur
That really doesn't seem resonable to battle with since the highest level Pokemon there is in lv.63 or something like that. But you should show the moves of the Pokemon. Otherwise you really shouldn't put Pokemon's names up there with the levels that are too low to compete in the E4.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Actually, SS is taking advantage of weak typing in the E4, so while the level of his Pokes appear to be low, he can still (and allegedly did) defeat the E4. I will assume that replenishing items were used, of course, but that team was thought out pretty well. I don't necessarily agree with his choices or suggest other to follow suit, but it definitely got the job done.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patamon_Master
one ilands trust me VS seeker there

Only battle at One Island if (a) you have not challenged the E4 yet, (b) you challenged the E4 and then got the National Pokedex from Professor Oak, or (c) you have returned Lorelei to the E4 from Four Island and your Pokes are not leveled up enough to handle the "stronger" E4 Pokes. Otherwise, the E4 is THE best place to train your Pokes. One Island is okay to level up with the VS Seeker, but there are just better places (read through this thread) that have already been mentioned that are better.

Fl0W:HHGURU April 5th, 2006 8:16 AM

I just packed shed loads of revives and full restores with all the money i had earned and then just went full out with my blastoise which was around level 60 i restarted my lg game after beating the e4 and trading my good pokes, i didnt realise there was something after, ill just do it when i go on holiday :laugh:

raichu_thunder April 6th, 2006 2:42 AM

I personally think the best place to train for the elite 4 is either cinnaber island or victory road, i think this because they have high levels!
good luck training!

Jack25 April 6th, 2006 4:20 AM

My charizard was level 80 when i beat the elite 4 and my brothers was level 82...he had a blastoice.

Xtacy April 6th, 2006 1:25 PM

Please don't tell me you're one of those people that have teams like:

Lv. 80 Charizard
Lv.7 Rattatta
Lv. 9 Pidgey
Lv. 10 Abra

etc...

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ April 6th, 2006 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtacy
Please don't tell me you're one of those people that have teams like:

Lv. 80 Charizard
Lv.7 Rattatta
Lv. 9 Pidgey
Lv. 10 Abra

etc...

That team has a good chance of winning if the Charizard has good moves just to knock out everyone

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Synchronize April 6th, 2006 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Venusaur
That team has a good chance of winning if the Charizard has good moves just to knock out everyone

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Unfortunately Charizard can't do that to all of the Elite Four. Fly/Aerial Ace/Wing Attack/Hidden Power Flying, even at level 80, doesn't OHKO Bruno's Machamp, and that just 1-2HKOs back with Rock Slide. And I know from experience, using a LONELY natured Charizard. I'm quite sure Lance's Dragons have something to say to Charizard as well.


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