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BTW, I just wanted to say, when you get the chance, save any and all PMs on your Word processor and delete them. See, I tried to PM you a few years back, but couldn't due to the fact that your PM mail box was full (It had to do with getting signatures.) Also, I made a series of Bring Misty Back videos which I think are unique, as they pretty much cover a reason other than Pokeshipping or anything. Here are the videos: part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0OowSxgEcE part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktzpEL8gWK8 part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjJSiydEu8 Did you get any signatures from your area? just asking, since you never responded to my PM on Serebiiforums. Also, we're going to be boycotting the Pokemon Company, oh, and the Boycott's participants will be international/global (sorry for having to make it blunt that global and international are the same thing, but certain people are quipping that when I say a global boycott, I mean a US american boycott, when that's NOT what I mean at all). I didn't want it to come about this way, but we tried reasoning with the writers and submitting petitions, but our pleas fell on death ears, we Warned them about the Boycott, they didn't listen, so we have to Boycott, as it's the only way to convince them to Bring Misty Back now (not counting possible redos). Basically, we were trying to do something similar to what the colonists did prior to the Revolution. Anyways, that's all for now. |
We definitely need a new topic. I wonder if in original japanese version are there songs like Misty's song, He drives me crazy and under the mistletoe? Maybe you know? I have never found the japanese version of these pokeshipping songs and I'm afraid it's just american imagination.
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btw Weedle, if I recall correctly, you mentioned you wanted everyone in your homestate of Georgia to sign the Misty petition.
Well, one of the people who mocked you at Bulbagarden is from Georgia too so good luck getting him to sign. Oh, I was watching a music video of a band I listen to sometimes when I spotted this gem. The odd thing is that I dont think the girl was cosplaying unless she's a closet Misty fan. |
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BTW, that reminds me. Crystal Claire, I know you may have felt I may have gone too far when I mentioned overthrowing Kasumi, Geodude, and some others from the Misty Club, but considering the fact that Kasumi and Geodude were abusing their power, using it to bully other Misty fans, be above the law, and place my post on the Hall of Shame without my knowledge or consent for the sole purpose of mocking me and others who might try and defend me, among other things, was probably enough to justify my reasons why they have to be overthrown. I mean, you know what it was like when some people mocked you for being a devout Misty Fan way back when (Cybercubed being a notable example), and I know you didn't like it back then. I hope you realize what I mean. Besides, even founders can be removed and still have their club go on. I mean, Silent Tattsu, the founder of this club, left a long time ago, and it still continued despite that. Oh, Misty Lover 17, in case you were wondering what I was talking about, early in May, some people, namely Kasumi (The BMGf Mod, I mean), Geodude, Habunake, and Matkin22 decided that, since I was a devout Misty fan who wanted her to be brought back, as well as my announcing a boycott to bring Misty back, decided to move my Global Boycott announcement post from the Misty club on that site onto the Hall of Shame thread, without my knowledge or consent, just to try and mock me in the most demeaning, hurtful manner. The Link is here (It's closed, thank goodness): http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=29059 This action angered me, and expanded an already growing emotional rift between me and Mods, as I have slowly come to realize that the mods on Serebiiforums and BMGf were nothing more than tyrants who use their position to bully new people, fanbases they dislike, and people who think Misty should return. It ultimately resulted in my removing myself from the BMGf Misty club because I was disgusted by the arrogance and bullying nature of the higher ups. I'll never forgive Kasumi, Geodude, Matkin22, Habunake, and a few others for what they did. I do forgive Crystal Claire for that, though. Ironically, a few months later, I was banned from Serebiiforums for a time (though only because a mod by the name of Rave decided to flame Misty and me, and start a flame war, with me as a scapegoat, with him getting away with it completely scot-free.). No matter what, though, I'm still determined to bring her back, nothing short of the show being cancelled will stop me from achieving our goal, from my master plan as documented in my youtube videoes. I mean, many people might say they are Misty fans, but we need proof as to whether they actually are (drawing fanarts of Misty isn't enough, because there are some fanarts of Misty being mutilated), we need to bring back Misty, as we are her supposed to be her loyal fanbase (I mean, there are several Misty fans all over the world, something that even you, CC, have said.) |
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What if Misty was a guy? http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/181/genderbenttr1.png First of all, I think he'd be Mitchy (even though it's awkward) or Brooke. Second, what would you think of his personality (Misty's personality in a guy basically) Weedle, if we had Brooke and he had Misty's fanbase, would you still want him back? I mean your bringing Misty back is because she's a positive female role-model. Would you feel Brooke was a positive male model? |
Well, let's see, if if Misty was Brooke (a Guy)... well, as long as this Brooke also isn't portrayed in a similar manner as Brock was or heck, how Gaston from BATB was portrayed, then, yes, I would feel he is a positive male rolemodel, and thus, also want him back (Because I also hate it when my own gender is portrayed as such. I mean, just because I'm straight doesn't mean that I must act the way they do about females [either going overboard, or saying the women are inferior to men, don't have rights in comparison to males, and don't have a choice in the matter.].). BTW, that's assuming he's heterosexual.
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What if Misty was a guy?
For whatever reason, I cannot picture her being a guy....So yeah |
I got my answer now for the topic.
I think the show would be pretty different if she a guy. We'd have a guy joining the group almost every region instead of a girl. |
^WOW, it's been almost a whole year since I've been here!! I missed this club a lot! TT___TT
Did you draw those, CClair? If you did, you've become even more amazing at drawing ;D ...if Misty were a guy, the side characters would be female, and she'd be the guy every girl is after xD |
I can only say one thing about that picture, CREEPY it is kind of a weird concept to begin with in terms of fan art that is and also the most unique bit I have ever seen. That is something I would welcome though, having a new guy join the group every generation but I can't say this until we know for sure that there is going to be a generation five anime. If anything it could be discontinued after the end of this generation while the video games and most likely the movies continue on which would be a good idea before the show becomes an embarrassment ratings wise.
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I mean, really, if it truly were the best show it ever was, wouldn't it be slightly less than Kanto? I mean, that would literally mean that it's the best. I mean, people have called Johto the worst saga ever, and yet, funnily enough, AG and especially DP seemed to be faring worse than Johto, as you and the Japanese ratings have said. BTW, welcome back, MWM!!! EDIT: you know, I'm really enraged by many of the fans on BMGf. I mean, they are deluding themselves into thinking that the shows not even in danger of being cancelled, and anyone who tries to convince them otherwise must be a "Hick misty fan who doesn't know anything". I mean, I tried explaining how it's actually in danger of being cancelled multiple times, even bringing in nickstr to help with this, and they still think I'm nuts. I mean, I never referenced Misty even once in terms of the ratings failing (aside from replying to that jerk, Scott85 due to his mocking me (Which even then, it was saying that I never referenced her at all).), I mean, honestly, DP is getting 5.5% in terms of ratings (Which is the lowest Pokemon can go), and they claim that it will continue. EXCUSE ME?! It's far too low! Why are they constantly, arrogantly deluding themselves in regards to it?! BTW, Crystal Clair, I sent you a PM on SPPf, just FYI, since you haven't responded yet. |
It WAS a weekly rating, the average for the year will be released next January or sometime after the season airs. Although it did hit 5.5% for a year average in 2006 which was Battle Frontier and it did drop a bit after a boost at the beginning of Diamond and Pearl. The weekly rating for last week was 6.1% and even then this still put the show at number 8 on that ratings chart for the week and was tied with two other shows for the same placement.
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You know, I did this project as to see whether Ash is actually the Central Character that everyone claims him to be, and I actually came up with some interesting results between Episode focus statistics tests.
From what I witnessed with my Original Series test, Ash and Misty, from what I've gathered in regards to episode focuses, Misty ranks 46 (as in, she had 46 episodes focused on her at least.), Ash, on the other hand, ranks 40 (as in, he had 30 episodes focused on him at least.). For a supposed Central Character, that's quite low. Of course, I had to hesitate in regards to Gym battles, as they can go either way (I mean, just because there's a Gym battle doesn't mean that Ash is going to be the main focus. In Brock's episode, for example, Ash had to share the focus, Misty's battle with Ash, same deal. Heck, in regards to Ash's battle against Rudy, it actually focused on Misty almost completely.). I also had to hesitate on Captures since some capture episodes didn't actually focus upon the characters who made said capture (in Charmander the stray Pokemon, Brock was actualy focused on more than Ash, even though Ash was the one who captured it. Hypno's naptime focused on Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy, and yet Misty caught Psyduck even though she wasn't the main focus of the episode.). I only focused on any of them if said episodes actually had major development on the main character participating in it or if said main character had a profound impact on the episode in question or if the character was focused upon in a significant amout of the time in the episode. I also plan on doing similar surveys on "Ash/May" and Ash/Dawn" Tomorrow. BTW, these surveys will only involve sagas in the main series where they are the main focus, meaning, their reappearances in the Mirage Kingdom arc, Ash's return to Pallet town for Battle Frontier, the Wallace Cup, and Pokemon Chronicles doesn't count, as Misty wasn't a major character in the AG series/DP series, and May isn't a major character in the DP series. Anyways, lets hope our veteran members can stay awhile. Heck, maybe they'll be of significant help to our Boycott of the franchise to try and bring her back to her rightful place on the show. So, uhhh, Misty Lover17, mistywishmaker, anime/mangalover247, Kasumi, how's life hanging? did you do anything that might impact Misty returning to the main cast? BTW, CrystalClair, I kinda found the guy you were talking about (Satoshi-kun), and, well, considering what he suggested for me to do that is going against my beliefs (he told me to read Playboy, which I vowed to never again read as I now know that it's depictions of females is sexist and demeaning), even IF he were wanting to bring Misty back, I won't have him sign, not unless he stops suggesting that people read Playboy or Playgirl, as it's offensive to both genders. I may be straight, but that does NOT mean that I should look at girls bodies at a lustful demeaning manner. Nickstr: I kinda found out about it being weekly ratings, but that's still very unsatisfactory. I mean, even IF the show's old audience grows out of favor, new kids should replenish all the empty seats, so to speak, and give something close to the Kanto ratings. But, even with the new kids, they are still steadily declining, which is bad news. Unfortunately, some people are being so arrogant that they actually think the show's doing very good when it actually isn't. Anyways, that's all for now. |
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As for my being delusional, even you were as you called it Delusional. And anyways, the "Contest" arcs, they never truly done away with the fillers. Heck, some of them were probably no different than fillers anyways. And there has been character development in Johto as well, In fact, even you admitted that Johto wasn't nearly as bad as everyone said it was, and that Misty did a lot in that saga. As for "popular characters", the only "Popular" Characters are Harley and May, and even then, he's popular because people think of him as a joke, not because they are actually loyal to him. And anyways, I also noticed that on several Poll results listed May as being the lowest in terms of popularity [meaning, in essence that May was the most unpopular girl in pokemon], so she's not even considered popular. Heck, Fabuvinny stated in the Tracey Talk Page that May had even more backlash than Tracey ever did. You know, Crystal Claire, you're starting to become more and more like Cybercubed every day now. I mean, you stated multiple times that you hated it that Cybercubed was mocking you as well as your bretheren, I mean, if you hated it when Cybercubed did this to you, why would you all of a sudden try to do the exact same things he's doing. I mean, you hated it being done unto you. I mean, my viewpoint is, If I hate it being done unto me, I don't try to do these same things unto others (especially my own group), and I try my absolute hardest to try and live up to that standard. I'm growing concerned for you, as a fellow comrade, and as a friend. Besides, even IF I didn't care about Misty at all, do you honestly think that a 5.5% in terms of ratings or a 6.1% even is even close to being "Safe from cancellation"? I mean, most people, when seeing that, would Panic. Quote:
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You're going to have to respect that other people aren't as attached and/or dedicated to the anime or to your favorite character as you are, even though they say like the character a lot. I like Hinata and Natane a lot but I don't get angry when people go around saying that they like Hinata for her tight uniform. I accept that some Shinji fans find Shinji hot or think he's a great rival but aren't exactly loyal or dedicated to him. And with fandoms, we joke about being obsessive and other stuff and you know what? Those people on Bulbagarden who were being "mean" to you, they were merely joking. Joking is a part of the internet. If you can't handle humor, then the internet is not the place for you. I have a friend who likes Misty a lot (even more than me) and he posted here once or twice and he thinks your train of thinking is highly ridiculous. Of course it's normal to be sad that your favorite character is gone from the show but sometimes you just have to accept those things eventually and sometimes it takes time for people, but that's life. And the more mature I get, the more things I realize and thus I can learn more about myself and my past actions. Weedle, I'm going to say that I agree with you that Johto is horribly underrated. A majority of the episodes from said series were full of key events or little things that made a lot of episodes hard to do away with in the Bulbagarden Johto crop thread where members decided what fillers were useless. And even some of the fillers with no character development at all were at least entertaining. However, the plots they opened up were poorly executed. Casey was treated poorly for a rival with only three episodes, Gary only appeared three times, the fillers were excessive, three gym leaders only got one episode, and the series was and is still generally hated by the majority of the fandom. So tl;dr. Johto had good stuff but it was poorly executed. And if you're curious, while browsing Serebii, I stumbled across many posts that show that DP is really pretty good. Spoiler:
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I mean, they showed us a film, "Secret Life of a Bulimic", whose motives for becoming a bulimic dealt with her working as a fashion model part time, as well as her feeling insecure about her own looks because of what she thinks people think of her. They also held a seminar about Bulimia and Anorexia during one of my health classes, and they even just flat out stating it. Also, when I had to read a newspaper for Algebra (For something called Math in the News), and in the article, the author of "Math doesn't suck" (she's the same person who played the girl in "wonder years") said that she wrote that book for girls because girls in this day and age think that they have to grow up to basically have an IQ of... one, two, maybe ten at most, be party animals, and do reckless decisions (because of certain... "incidents" that certain hollywood starlets got themselves into.), and the way she said it made it seem as though it was a pretty significant number. Heck, the way several teachers in middle school taught about the causes of Anorexia and bulimia made it seem as though a significant percentage of the girls in question get it as a result of society, via the media, the fashion industry, and the porn industry has convinced them that the only way you can have a perfect body is if they become super-thin and have big boobs. Heck, even Anime and any other fictional intertainment is at fault, as some kids are actually imitating certain stunts that would send them to the hospital just because they saw it on TV or saw it at some sort of stunt rally. And anyways, kids learn to swear because of TV (I mean, some kids are learning to swear because someone left "The Jerry Springer show" on, and someone I know learned the F-word from her sister because she was watching one of these "Nerd" movies, and when she said the phrase with said word in it one day while on the road, her mom nearly caused a car accident from the shock.). Also, a recent survey that my mom found on the net said that most of the sexual experiences from underage teens (and teen pregnancies that result from it) that have arrived mass-scale across the globe were a result of them watching Movies and shows that show sex on tv (Especially the out-of-wedlock kind.) I mean, if people were to mimic thse things, imagine the sheer onslaught that would happen if we don't bring Misty back (BTW, that's NOT my only goal. In fact, bringing her back is just a step towards that goal. my plans are to shut down the Porn industry (Starting with Playboy, and if I must keep that sham in business, then I'll place a prohibation ban on any leud pictures and only keep it as a journal magazine.), recall any FAS's merchandise or any animes where the majority of it's main characters are FAS's. I also plan on eliminating Fashion magazines, and Teaching women to think for themselves completely, and not act like total Airheads.) Quote:
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About the anorexia and bulhemia deal, and even the whole children imitating what's done on tv, I don't think a cartoon character from a children's show is going to make girls want to act girly. I think you should be frying bigger fish out there like Hannah Montana. Besides, Pokemon is mainly a boy's show.
I dont have the energy to reply to the rest of your post, except that you, a teenage Georgian boy who happens to have Aspergers, do not have the power to shut down or even affect the porn industry. And about these ratings, I find it hard to believe that Johto was up so high. Sorry but that site is either inaccurate or you're just making crap up. |
Weedle: Your post is full of so much BS, i had to come back just to give my thoughts. First of all, shutting down the porn industry is never going to happen, everyone likes to look at it sometimes, one person's little "Boycott" isnt going to do jack about it.
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If the Abolitionists back then were able to successfully abolish Slavery (especially in the 1960s, where they made sure that Blacks were actually treated like human beings), then the same would apply here. Secondly, there are many more people on my side, at least 900, if not more than that. Most of the people that watched my video at school thought I was very persuasive, and my points were very good. |
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