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Latioscatcher March 11th, 2006 6:57 PM

Kingdom Hearts II (revived)
 
*sigh* I had to revive this topic lol..any way lets talk about the game shall we.. lemme try to summarize stuff like whats in jap version and whats in english.
*MAJOR SPOILERS MAYBE*
Well the game starts of with the BHK kid, Roxas, .you control him in twilight town, and when you start of as him you get a tutorial when you first start the game.
Sephiroth back in the game, and hes even harder to beat.
Mickey is appearing more often, and he has the same bad fashion as Sora
Thats all i can remember.
Its coming out March 28, 2006.
Differneces in us and jap versions
Us version:
its english
loads of detail are kinda gone.. i think
some of the stuff in the jap version is not there..i think
Jap version:
the dark city or so is nibelheim from ff7 and its only in the jap version ..i think
there two version of the game: Trinity masterpiece and regular.

Well now its you guys to talk now about the game ^^

Poke Mastr March 14th, 2006 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latioscatcher
*sigh* I had to revive this topic lol..any way lets talk about the game shall we.. lemme try to summarize stuff like whats in jap version and whats in english.
*MAJOR SPOILERS MAYBE*
Well the game starts of with the BHK kid, Roxas, .you control him in twilight town, and when you start of as him you get a tutorial when you first start the game.
Sephiroth back in the game, and hes even harder to beat.
Mickey is appearing more often, and he has the same bad fashion as Sora
Thats all i can remember.
Its coming out March 28, 2006.
Differneces in us and jap versions
Us version:
its english
loads of detail are kinda gone.. i think
some of the stuff in the jap version is not there..i think
Jap version:
the dark city or so is nibelheim from ff7 and its only in the jap version ..i think
there two version of the game: Trinity masterpiece and regular.

Well now its you guys to talk now about the game ^^

There's only one version. Trinity Masterpiece is just the complete set of the Kingdom Hearts series (KH, KH: CoM, KH2). Nothing different. And they said that the English and Japanese versions are completely the same. Dont difference is the language. Why the hell would the dark city be gone if the whole game is about that place? Same bad fashon as Sora? You stole that line from EGM. Mickey is in KH2 a hell of a lot more. But everyone knows that already.

Oh and guess what. MTV is actually good for something! On MTV Overdrive, they have a North American Kingdom Hearts II section with info and interviews of the voice actors. I personally hate the english voice acting. But once again, Riku's voice pwns.

http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/peep_show/index.jhtml

Pretty Boy Sean March 14th, 2006 8:03 PM

Only 2 more weeks until this AAA game comes out and I lose my life for a week or two.

Poke Mastr March 14th, 2006 8:16 PM

Me and my friend at school are counting down. Everytime we see each other in class or anywhere at any time, we always say the number of days left...13 days and 15 1/2 hours until I get English Kingdom Hearts II (has Japanese version [getting English version right after school])

Arcanine March 15th, 2006 3:26 PM

12 days, 5 hours, 29 mins.
There. XD

I can't wait till KH2 comes out, I've been waiting so long and now it's so close to being out. I've tried so hard to hold back on stuff happening in the game because I want to find out for myself. And now it's soooooooooooooo close to being out. I can't wait for it.

Latioscatcher March 18th, 2006 9:46 AM

Did anyone else preorder this game yet, i had it preorder for like a year now haha

Chase Leader March 18th, 2006 10:23 AM

I'm only gonna pre-order it if I get a poster or something free with it...regardless I am getting the second it comes out. Long ago I heard about the Trinity Compilation of all the games in one set...that would be sweet...since I don't actually own Kindgom Hearts 1 and I sold my Chain of Memories...

sketch March 19th, 2006 3:09 PM

I don't have a ps2 but I've played the first one before.It rocks!I hope I eventually get to play this one.The only KH game I have is Chain of Memories, bit it's still cool.I even just got the 2-disc soundtrack from the first one!

Wolf_Goddess March 19th, 2006 5:00 PM

Ah, I'm looking foward to the game...once I get (and finish) the original Kingdom Hearts. -blush-

At first, when it just came out, I thought the idea was stupid. Who wants to play a Disney Game? For many years I thought that (okay, not many. But you get what I mean) and when I finally played it at my friend's house...I'm hooked! I made my dad order it, and thus I shall play it. When I'm done, I'll probably get the sequal when the third (if there is any) comes out (Or maybe I'll get it when it comes out, beat KH1 and go straight to it. Therefore, no wait!). (Knowing how Final Fantasy turned out, I highly doubt they'd stop at two, or three for that matter.)

And another reason I'll get it is because this one has some of the best Disney movies! Lion King and Pirates of the Caribbean, for example!

Fr0st March 19th, 2006 6:50 PM

Quote:

Trinity Masterpiece is just the complete set of the Kingdom Hearts series (KH, KH: CoM, KH2).
All for one console? Or is it just a bundle of all the games for the original consoles??

Quote:

Me and my friend at school are counting down. Everytime we see each other in class or anywhere at any time, we always say the number of days left...13 days and 15 1/2 hours until I get English Kingdom Hearts II

I thought I was the onli one:P

Arcanine March 20th, 2006 8:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ice_blade
All for one console? Or is it just a bundle of all the games for the original consoles??

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6748/khtm2wx.jpg
^ Trinity Masterpiece Collection
It's all three games in one box.


7 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes, and 19 seconds left until Kingdom Hearts II is out.

Wolf_Goddess March 20th, 2006 2:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanine
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6748/khtm2wx.jpg
^ Trinity Masterpiece Collection
It's all three games in one box.


7 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes, and 19 seconds left until Kingdom Hearts II is out.

Ah...such a shmexy box. I would have gotten it, but I don't have a DS, therefore have no use for the second game! ^.^

Arcanine March 20th, 2006 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Goddess
Ah...such a shmexy box. I would have gotten it, but I don't have a DS, therefore have no use for the second game! ^.^

If you got a GBA then you can play it. Because KH: CoM is for the GBA, not the DS.

Wolf_Goddess March 20th, 2006 2:33 PM

Really? I always though it was for the DS...-hits self- stupid me. It seemed like a DS game...

Ah well, now I'm peeved at myself, but not spending my money on something that I already have (the original Kingdome Hearts)...

Sigh...Happy First day of Sping! That just makes me happy, knowing that so many good games are going to come out this year...^.^ (KH2, and Twilight Princess. But they held that back to September or something...boo!)

Arcanine March 20th, 2006 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Goddess
Really? I always though it was for the DS...-hits self- stupid me. It seemed like a DS game...

Ah well, now I'm peeved at myself, but not spending my money on something that I already have (the original Kingdome Hearts)...

If you think KH: CoM is just KH on the GBA then no, it's a whole other game. KH: CoM does have KH levels but the story line is further into the KH series. It links KH with KH2 (you'll understand KH2 more if you played KH: CoM).

Poke Mastr March 20th, 2006 4:13 PM

O.o "Understand more"? You need CoM to understand it all. Without it, you'll be all "What? Who the hell is that? Organization? Namine? What does 'Thank Namine' mean?" (you'll know what I'm talking about, when I said 'Thank Namine' in the beginning, as soon as you start with Sora)

Arcanine March 20th, 2006 5:25 PM

Yes, more. Because if it was a "have to get" they would have called it KH2, and made KH2, KH3. CoM links KH with KH2.

Kayleigh March 22nd, 2006 4:22 PM

It's less than a week now before it comes out... I've waited so long for this game! XD I became obsessed with the first one the moment I saw a commercial for it, and I've been a huge fan ever since. I've beaten it, as well as CoM, so I'm ready now! I've already got myself a copy reserved.

Anyway, I'm kind of curious to see how the characters' English voices will sound like. I'm not exactly ecstatic about Jesse McCartney voicing Roxas (He's a pop singer. T_T I just don't see it fitting well...) but I still won't complain, especially as long as Naminé, etc. don't sound too valley-girl-ish.

Brittany March 24th, 2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanine
Yes, more. Because if it was a "have to get" they would have called it KH2, and made KH2, KH3. CoM links KH with KH2.

But Square isn't exactly the smartest company when dealing with sequels... *thinks back to FFX-2*

Then again, the game starts off with numerous flashbacks to both games, so you're probably right. Personally, if KH's original corny humor and Disney's fantasy feel is still intact, I don't know if a poor transition between the games could hinder KH2's success.

And we've just got a couple days until it comes out! *dies of anticipation*

Mario The World Champion March 24th, 2006 10:30 PM

It's actually coming out on the 28th? That's not very long from now.

Heck, I'm getting my hands on it! XD

palabok March 25th, 2006 12:19 AM

Oh man, can't wait til the US version comes out. Played the Japanese version, and I LOVED it. I <3 Roxas.

djvolcom March 25th, 2006 1:26 PM

yah, i cant wait for this game to come out, i been waiting for KH2, since winter of 2004, but Summer 2005, now winter 2005, but now spring of 2006! i hope it does comesout!!!

Chase Leader March 25th, 2006 4:31 PM

Dude it comes out on Wednesday...right now I'm patiently waiting...

djvolcom March 25th, 2006 8:07 PM

i hope so!!! this game may pwn the old version

palabok March 25th, 2006 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by djvolcom
i hope so!!! this game may pwn the old version

Trust me, from experience with the japanese version, this game is a vast improvement from the first.

And btw, Ragnarok Online is fun. Do you play iRO?

Fr0st March 25th, 2006 8:14 PM

I just hope they change The roxas characters name. I even prefer the internet nickname BHK (blonde hair kid) more than roxas.

Latioscatcher March 28th, 2006 7:07 PM

er... they are not changing the name haha, and TODAY ITS OUT but there selling it tomorrow!! thank god i reserved it woooo picks it up skipping lunch of school hah and btw, whos namine? i played com but not much

Rubberbandman March 31st, 2006 12:58 PM

Namine is Kairi's nobody. (message too short)

SBaby March 31st, 2006 4:51 PM

OK... No major spoilers please (as if we didn't already know that, but still...). I got the game with the strategy guide (which I'll probably just use for item hunting). Just finished the Mulan world and am about to go to Beast's Castle.

I can't believe it's like four hours before you get to control Sora though. Longest tutorial ever. But the game rocks!

Chase Leader March 31st, 2006 9:19 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyyy Goooooooooodness...I haven't been on since the game came out...I have been playing it non-stop...well when I'm not at college or working...this game was all I'd hoped it could be...maybe a little short maybe it could have been harder...and I am playing proud mode so yeah that says something...but all in all I'd say it is equal maybe slighlty better than KH 1...BUY THIS GAME



Tinny Tiny Spoiler...highlight the line bellow.
Roxas has the letters sora in them hmmmmmmmm SORA...with an X...Yeah

Pretty Boy Sean April 1st, 2006 2:59 PM

Roxas also sounds like Rock Sauce...

Does anyone know the recommended order of the worlds?

Chase Leader April 2nd, 2006 1:18 AM

Well what I did was went to the worlds that had the higher level battles first, then went and did the easier ones...and enjoy the story without worrying about dying to the boss at the end of the level...But if you really care...it goes something like this:

1. Twilight Town
2. Hollow Bastion
3. Land of Dragons
4. Beasts Caslte
5. Olympus Coliseum
6. Disney Castle/Timless River
7. Atlantica doesen't really count
8. Port Royal
9. Agrabah
10. Halloween Town
11. The Pride Lands
12. Hollow Bastion/Space Paranoids...
That goes without saying you do have to revisit other worlds after this.

By the way I hate Oggie Boogy, for some reason I kept dying while fighting him, ohh yeah him and the guy with the guitar...the second time around anyways...

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ April 2nd, 2006 6:01 AM

I don't know anthing about Kingdom Hearts 2 but I heared its a really good game.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Chase Leader April 2nd, 2006 11:44 AM

Not just good, but incredible...if you still don't have the game its well worth 50 dollars.

Arcanine April 4th, 2006 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Venusaur
I don't know anthing about Kingdom Hearts 2 but I heared its a really good game.

:t003:Dark Venusaur

Well if you haven't played Kingdom Hearts (and KH: CoM. CoM isn't needed but it links the two together) then you need to play that before getting Kingdom Hearts. You'll see everyone go "Hey Sora, long time no see" and that sort of stuff. And if you haven't played KH then you won't know what's going on.

But KH 2 is worth 50 bucks. I'd gladly play more if I had to, it's that great.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 4th, 2006 9:36 AM

man... i want this game..... it hasn't been released in Norway yet.... HOW LONG MUST I WAIT????

Chase Leader April 4th, 2006 1:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lt. Surge's Raichu
man... i want this game..... it hasn't been released in Norway yet.... HOW LONG MUST I WAIT????

I feel for you, however Europe almost always gets the same game with new and better add ons...so...but I hear you...this game is so incredible and e10 times deeper than the first.

SBaby April 5th, 2006 7:50 AM

Not to mention the boss fights are some of the best I've seen in an RPG (even compared to Grandia III). There's one boss where you fall off a platform and have to throw your Keyblade into one of its attacks to stun it, then you can attack its head. And there's another where you swing around on a chandelier and knock it into a wall. But man, the stuff's so impressive that my descriptions aren't doing it justice.

Chase Leader April 5th, 2006 10:53 AM

I beat it a few days ago...has anyone else beaten it...Axel is so my new favorite RPG Character...even better than Squall.

pichugirl April 5th, 2006 11:19 AM

I only have KH 1 and I haven't beat it yet cause I always stop at alice and wonderland and I have no memory card

Chase Leader April 5th, 2006 11:26 AM

No Memory Card, man if you lived near me I'd so buy you one...its essential...Don't wory about KH 2 just Beat the first one then play the second.

pichugirl April 5th, 2006 11:27 AM

I can never find alice anyway or get past the stupid level

Arcanine April 5th, 2006 12:56 PM

KH2 does have one main let down for me. It's too easy, I haven't beat it yet because I don't want to beat it too quick.
Other then that it's great. Everything else is better then I thought. I love how they talk more on KH2. I love the whole Drive system. I love the new Gummi ship thing now. I love the story. I love the time pressed button actions. And tons of other things. KH2 is great and better then what I thought before I got it.

pichugirl April 7th, 2006 6:52 AM

Does anyone know how to skip levels in the game?

Arcanine April 7th, 2006 11:10 AM

Why would you want to skip levels? The reason for the game is the story, and the levels is the story. O_o;;

Cherrim April 7th, 2006 11:33 AM

If you're trying to speed through, you technically don't have to do Atlantica, 100 Acre Woods, or the Pride Lands. (I think, anyway. My friend apparently didn't do them.) But honestly, I'd suggest going through everything. It's far, far more enjoyable that way and then you don't have to worry about getting behind in levels or anything. o.o

Anyway...I beat the game a few nights ago. Only played on Normal mode though...and I'm taking a break before I go in and perfect everything to 100% since I didn't do anything productive in the week I played it. xD; I'm currently obsessed with the OST though...the music is so, so pretty.

Also, Demyx is the greatest~~ <3

`Matt April 7th, 2006 11:53 AM

I beat the game four nights ago on Proud; even the hardest level was an ease. I agree, the OST is splendid, but I prefer Passion to Sanctuary. .. The English lyrics don't capture me as much.

Demyx is funny, but how can you ignore Xigbar? A fifty-year-old surfer Nobody has to be the most hilarious creation in a video game. ♥

Cherrim April 7th, 2006 12:06 PM

Yeah, Xigbar was funny...but I found he got annoying pretty quick. I think his voice bothered me during the battle or something. o_O;

x_x I don't like Sanctuary very much. I don't like how the lyrics fit with the music since they...well...don't. oO; Utada has to fluctuate her voice too much with each word and she drags them on to match the melody and that just bugs me since it doesn't sound very professional. x_x;

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 7th, 2006 12:22 PM

I want kingdom hearts 2, it wont be released in norway before autumn...:(
All my m8s are crazy after that game.....i can't wait!!!!

Chase Leader April 7th, 2006 12:44 PM

Right now I am in the middle of rapping the game...you know getting everything maxed out...I think I am level 93 or something like that...I have synthisized everything and the only thing I really have left is beating the ever annoying Sephiroth.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 7th, 2006 12:46 PM

Yeh, hehe he is very annoying. I remember him from the first game, man i had some painfull hours, till i finally beat him

`Matt April 7th, 2006 1:03 PM

Sephiroth is more than annoying, he's nearly impossible to beat in that game. His American voice, also, can hardly be compared to his Japanese Advent Children voice. But, Xigbar's voice did became an irritance during battle.

Is it me, or did it sound like he said "Umm... Burrito!" during the fight? Lol.

Cherrim April 7th, 2006 1:35 PM

XDD! *dies laughing* I suppose that's when he said "Reload" but I didn't think burrito. T'would be hilarious if that's what he actually said. xDD

I don't like Aerith's voice. I think Mandy Moore did a much better job with her...her new one just BUGS me and I can't place why. x_X

Pretty Boy Sean April 7th, 2006 5:22 PM

w00t! I just finished it!

The S April 7th, 2006 6:59 PM

Is it even possible to beat Sephiroth? Even at Level 99, with High Potions, Elixrs, Curaga, and the like, as well as many powerful Abilities, he still slays me. The furthest I've gotten him down to is 3 life bars. And is there a way to counter/block/otherwise stop Sins of a Heartless Angel?

Chase Leader April 7th, 2006 8:29 PM

I think its possible...because I know you get the keyblade Fenrir(how ever you spell it) after doing so...and its considered a mission. I got half way thorugh his life meters and I screwed up once and he killed me...I am level 92...wtf...its going to drive me insane until I beat him.

Has anyone seen the hidden trailer...At first after playing it half way through I thought that there may not be another Kingdom Hearts...but after I saw the video...it could be interesting to see if the can force out another one...hmmm three keyblades stuck in the ground...hmmmmm

`Matt April 7th, 2006 8:33 PM

Well, the aspect of that is.. a prequel to Kingdom Hearts; it has already been stated that Kingdom Hearts II is the end of Sora's story. That doesn't mean, however, that there can't be the introduction of a new chosen wielder.

Also, yes, it is when Xigbar said "Reload!;" I only thought it resembled "Burrito!" for some reason. Lol.

Yes, Mena Suvari is extremely emotionless with Aeris; it strikes me as.. stepping on a cat's tail to force it into speaking. - Shrug. -

I also thought they should have included a "Gargoyles" world in Kingdom Hearts II, and.. added Mozenrath as an Agrabah villain. Shame they couldn't, since his voice actor no longer lives. :(

Sora X April 8th, 2006 6:04 PM

I love All the kingdom Hearts games even the japanese ones.

I always felt the same but, they are most likely to make KH3

They did not think about new names for the nobodies
xemnas/ansemx
roxas/sorax

Hmph...... It is really wierd
I guess it is supposed to be that way

youd think that kairi would remember Sora after 1 year

http://gameguruji.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/heartless-symbol-copy2.gif

I think she has short term memory...

http://gameguruji.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/heartless-symbol-copy2.gif
I think she's just stupid

Ill get outta here.........................


Arcanine: All posts meged. Don't do that again.

Arcanine April 8th, 2006 6:16 PM

Sora X, stop the spamming, double posting. RIGHT NOW

Sora X April 8th, 2006 6:26 PM

Sorry......
 
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Originally Posted by Arcanine
Sora X, stop the spamming, double posting. RIGHT NOW

Im sorry I did not see your post on my old thread when I did that.

The S April 8th, 2006 6:28 PM

I finally did beat Sephiroth. It is indeed possible, it's just really. Freakin. HARD! And I still can't find a way to stop Sins of a Heartless Angel. Right now, before I finish the game, I'm trying to complete all of the bonus missions, but some of them are freakin' nuts. I swear, certain ones like the junk destroyer or whatever it's called are almost as touch as Sephie himself! Under six swings? Give me a break! My lowest is 26! And the poster run is nuts as well; how is one supposed to do that in less than 30 seconds?

And what is this secret trailer you speak of?

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I also thought they should have included a "Gargoyles" world in Kingdom Hearts II, and.. added Mozenrath as an Agrabah villain. Shame they couldn't, since his voice actor no longer lives.
I agree on both accounts... actually I was thinking of both upon completion of the first game.

Sora X April 8th, 2006 6:47 PM

Sepheroth was hard he has 3000hp and his instant kill move he's like 3 times harder than zamnas final battle.

Cherrim April 8th, 2006 8:16 PM

I got nine swings on the Junkbuster one, I think. But that's because I spent like five or ten minutes moving them all close together by walking into them repeatedly so they'd knock into each other. XD;

The only minigame I can't beat is the one in Twillight Town where you have to hit the cargo-thingy up the hill and into the garage. The Journal wants 15 seconds...but the lowest I've been able to attain is 16 seconds exactly. ;__;

RaikouRider243 April 8th, 2006 8:23 PM

Leveling up a ton doesn't help you a heck of a lot so long as you have Second Chance, Once More, and just about every countering ability. Unlike in the original Kingdom Hearts, leveling does not raise your HP and there are no pieces of equipment that give you more HP. In the original, if you were at a decent level (65 or so) and had a set of Gaia Bangles equipped, Sephiroth wasn't that hard because he only had one big combo move, Omnislash (which was probably going to kill you if you didn't dodge most of it.) Not to mention he barely attacked you if you stayed away from him (at least until you took away his first two life bars anyway. He had a lot less life back then, only 6 bars as opposed to 15 this time.) This time around, he will go after you right away. From the moment the battle begins, he will spam like there's no tomorrow. Remember how much those Gaia Bangles helped the first time? Well, those +6 and higher defensive accessories and armors will be simply necessary this time.

Sora X April 9th, 2006 4:49 AM

that wasnt true for me my hp goes of the screen (255hp) and im level 99

And about Axel...Does it even say what number he is in the organization?

`Matt April 9th, 2006 11:59 AM

Axel, (wa)is Number Eight ( VIII ) within the Organization. You would have learned this, playing through Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. While the introduction video for the second Kingdom Hearts condenses and then shows all that would happen in CoM, there is still that necessity to play the game. That is, if you wish to fully understand all of it.

Such as.. members of the Organization turning on one another; why Sora only encountered a tiny portion of the Organization in II AND why Kairi could not remember whom Sora was.

Summarized: Play Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories.

Elusive April 9th, 2006 12:38 PM

I keep hearing about KH2. It's supposed to fun. My friend tells me to get 1 & 2 (I have Chain of Memories). So should I get them?

Kayleigh April 9th, 2006 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Elusive
I keep hearing about KH2. It's supposed to fun. My friend tells me to get 1 & 2 (I have Chain of Memories). So should I get them?

Definitely! It's a totally different experience playing the Kingdom Hearts games on the PS2, with the much cooler battles, voice acting, CG movies, etc. I'm sure you'd become a bigger fan if you played them... Or you'd atleast understand everything a lot more!

I'm glad to see that other people have the same opinion on Aerith's new voice as me. I don't like it at all, which is a shame since she's one of my favorite characters. Mandy Moore did a better job.

It didn't take my brother very long to beat Sephiroth on the first game, although he got the Ultima Weapon so that helped a lot. I still think he can do it this time! I'm not even going to try, after hearing that he's even harder on this one. XD

Anyway, I've gotten really far into the game, but I don't want to beat it so soon... I've decided to go ahead and finish all of the requirements to see the secret movie thing at the end, and maybe by then I'll be a little more ready to handle my depression. T_T The pace of the game is just quicker than I expected, but it still has definitely been worth the wait!

`Matt April 9th, 2006 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elusive
I keep hearing about KH2. It's supposed to fun. My friend tells me to get 1 & 2 (I have Chain of Memories). So should I get them?

If you want an experience worth your money, then yes. If you're more for action than a story.. then no. When playing Kingdom Hearts, you have to be adjusted to seeing more storylines than actual time in the game. Otherwise.. you'll become irritated.

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Originally Posted by Kayleigh
I'm glad to see that other people have the same opinion on Aerith's new voice as me. I don't like it at all, which is a shame since she's one of my favorite characters. Mandy Moore did a better job.

She did, very much so. Mena Suvari isn't exactly bad, it's merely the fact that she doesn't act. She talks.. emotionlessly. While Mandy Moore, she took the time to change her voice to an extent; take the character seriously and try not to stir the annoyance of real Kingdom Hearts fans. Once more.. Mena Suvari only talked.

Kayleigh April 9th, 2006 4:55 PM

Yes, the Kingdom Hearts series is really all about the story... You wouldn't be able to fully enjoy any of the games if you didn't understand what was going on. I'm glad that's the way that it is because the story is so interesting and very deep compared to most other games. That's what draws me to it so much!

And that's exactly true about Mena Suvari. It's a little obvious that she hasn't had very much experience voicing a character like that... I don't want to sound like I'm making fun of her voice, but she did make Aerith sound a lot younger than she actually looks, and most of the time it sounded like her throat was kind of hoarse. Mandy's voice is softer, and sounds more mature, which was perfect for the role!

Anyway, I won't rant any longer. =P

`Matt April 9th, 2006 5:00 PM

Aw, it's more than fine. Mandy's voice is much softer, and warrants the gentleness which is the Aerith character. However, we must tolerate Mena Suvari no matter. She's also handling the Flower Girl in Advent Children; shame, too.

I also happen to adore Haley Joe Osment; he portrayed Sora in the sequel amazingly. I miss the original Ansem's voice; this new one simply doesn't interest me. But, Ansem the Wise's voice actor supports his character beautifully. So, they casted their good and their bad. You can't truly complain; they tried.

Kayleigh April 9th, 2006 5:29 PM

Oh, she is? That's kind of disappointing, but like you said, we have to live with it so I shouldn't really complain anymore...

Anyway, I agree! Haley Joel Osment is just great for Sora. ^_^ At first, I wasn't sure how well his deeper voice would fit this time around, but after hearing it throughout the game I think it's perfect for him, especially after he gets his new outfit and appears older. I also agree about Ansem's new voice... His first one fit him so well.

I think that both Roxas and Axel have good voice actors, as well. It took me a while to get used to Axel's, because I kind of expected it to sound deeper, but now I think it's perfect!

Naminé April 9th, 2006 5:44 PM

Naminé believes that Kingdom Hearts 2 definitely spells the end of Sora's story... Organization 13, an inferior name in comparison to the original 13th Order, is the one who started the entire problem since Kingdom Hearts, and they're permanently put to rest for all 13 members already.

If they are going to make more games of Kingdom Hearts, then as mentioned by another poster before Naminé, they'll have to go backward in time, before the time of Sora. It won't be bad at all to see where the first keyblades come from and how the worlds came to be, especially Radiant Garden, and any other town that's inbetween light and darkness, such as Traverse Town and Twilight Town. Naminé always wonder about how there are towns that are inbetween the light world and the dark world. A person in such a situation, that Naminé, can understand, but not worlds... would love to hear them explain it in more details~

The S April 9th, 2006 6:26 PM

I just found out that if I want to see the secret ending, I've either got to beat the game and get Jiminy's Journal filled on Standard, or just beat the game on the final difficulty. Trouble is, since I hadn't played KH 1 in a long arse time, and I wanted to play without too much adjusting, I chose Beginner. So now, at nearly the end of the game, with my journal nearly full, I've got to effing do it all over again on another difficulty just to see the blasted video. ARGH!

Chase Leader April 9th, 2006 6:56 PM

Ahhh tis the price you pay for taking it easy and enjoying the story...still they should have made it so that you can see the hidden trailer by doing the beginner mode...Maybe you can download it from somewhere that way you don't have to play through the game again.

Naminé April 9th, 2006 7:18 PM

No I don't think they should, or else Square-enix will get a horde of mad hardcore gamers trampling their doors for no reward doing it the hard way. It's a smart and brilliant move. You always get gamers who complain about going through quests to make insanely powerful characters, and yet there is no worthy enemies to use the powerful character on. The other complain is how you only get a pointless item that "proves" your success. A bonus trailer as a reward is a brilliant marketing move beyond comparison.

Chuchino April 9th, 2006 7:25 PM

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She did, very much so. Mena Suvari isn't exactly bad, it's merely the fact that she doesn't act. She talks.. emotionlessly. While Mandy Moore, she took the time to change her voice to an extent; take the character seriously and try not to stir the annoyance of real Kingdom Hearts fans. Once more.. Mena Suvari only talked.

I couldn't agree more. To be honest, I didn't like Mandy Moore too much in the first game. In fact.. I didn't like her at all.

But after hearing Mena Suvari's version of Aerith, I WISH Mandy would come back. She's far better then Mena is. When he first heard Aerith's new voice, my brother oh-so-eloquently put it; " She sounds like she came out of a food processor." XP

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Anyway, I agree! Haley Joel Osment is just great for Sora. ^_^ At first, I wasn't sure how well his deeper voice would fit this time around, but after hearing it throughout the game I think it's perfect for him, especially after he gets his new outfit and appears older. I also agree about Ansem's new voice... His first one fit him so well.

I think that both Roxas and Axel have good voice actors, as well. It took me a while to get used to Axel's, because I kind of expected it to sound deeper, but now I think it's perfect!

I saw a bunch of people bashing Haley Joel Osment for his voice, and I was all "What on earth?!". For one thing, he couldn't stop his voice from changing, and another, I think he's incredible in this game.

Hayden Penettiere hasn't changed much in sound, but she's gotten better at acting for sure =3

I love Axel's voice! There's something about it that's echoey and drawling about it, and I love it! He's such a redeemed character <3 I never hated him, but I never thought I'd love him.

And as for Roxas, I NEVER expected Jesse McCartney to pull it off o o;; I cringed when I read that he would be doing Roxas's voice, honestly. But I ended up loving it XD

I've beaten the game, but I haven't completed Jiminey's Journal yet.. I think I'm far from that ^^;;

My biggest problems would definitely be the Poster Duty and Junk Sweep in Twilight Town.

Lady Demoonica Darkmoon April 9th, 2006 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The S
I just found out that if I want to see the secret ending, I've either got to beat the game and get Jiminy's Journal filled on Standard, or just beat the game on the final difficulty. Trouble is, since I hadn't played KH 1 in a long arse time, and I wanted to play without too much adjusting, I chose Beginner. So now, at nearly the end of the game, with my journal nearly full, I've got to effing do it all over again on another difficulty just to see the blasted video. ARGH!

Is the bolded part of the above quote true? Because if it is, I think spending another 45+ hours going through the game again would be easyer than fighting Sephiroth. So it it true? Please, let it be true. (Can't win battle against Sephy for my life, not even in the first game!)

Kayleigh April 9th, 2006 7:46 PM

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I saw a bunch of people bashing Haley Joel Osment for his voice, and I was all "What on earth?!". For one thing, he couldn't stop his voice from changing, and another, I think he's incredible in this game.

Hayden Penettiere hasn't changed much in sound, but she's gotten better at acting for sure =3

I love Axel's voice! There's something about it that's echoey and drawling about it, and I love it! He's such a redeemed character <3 I never hated him, but I never thought I'd love him.

And as for Roxas, I NEVER expected Jesse McCartney to pull it off o o;; I cringed when I read that he would be doing Roxas's voice, honestly. But I ended up loving it XD

I've beaten the game, but I haven't completed Jiminey's Journal yet.. I think I'm far from that ^^;;

My biggest problems would definitely be the Poster Duty and Junk Sweep in Twilight Town.

Of course, so they shouldn't be bashing him for something that he can't help! I think that it fits just fine, because it's not like Sora hasn't grown any, either. I can really tell that Haley's acting has improved in this game.

And I agree, although she definitely sounds more mature now!

I know, I love it, too! XD It goes just perfectly with the attitude that he has. I was also like that when I was playing CoM... I kind of disliked him because he seemed so mean, but after playing KH2 my opinion totally changed. He's so funny and amusing to watch. I think that getting to hear his voice and see more realistic expressions from him made a big difference. Now he's definitely one of my favorite characters!

Oh, I know! O_o I did the exact same thing. I just couldn't get past the fact that he was a pop star. I didn't even want to imagine him as Roxas. But now I think he's perfect for the role!

And ugh, I was horrible at all of the Twilight Town mini games. XD *sigh*

`Matt April 9th, 2006 7:47 PM

Actually, my friend, you're in luck. Secret ending.

But yes, the only way to truly continue is.. a prequel, which I would enjoy to see. Such as the Thirteenth Order as humans, find out more about them before they became Nobodies. See Ansem the Wise before his life became shambles.

Most importantly, see the birth of the keyblades; the war which was born from it and more. I think the idea of a prequel is truly remarkable, as long as its path isn't along the same stride as Devil May Cry's franchise; if Kingdom Hearts ends after the prequel, all will be fine.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 10th, 2006 12:54 PM

Am i the only one that have been stuck in this game on the Tarzan isle? I remember i gave up, and returned to the game some months afterwards....i just couldn't understand what to do, and when i finally found out how simple it was i became angry....so typical=)

Cherrim April 10th, 2006 6:02 PM

Mm, in the first one? Heh, I didn't get stuck in the Tarzan world, but I remember I skipped something in Wonderland...I think...so I couldn't progress for a while and I got really confused. The fact that I played a few hours into the game and couldn't play it again for almost a year due to the fundamental lack of a PS2 probably contributed to the confusion though. XD;

I do do that sometimes in games though...I overthink my missions and then forget them altogether and get really annoyed when it turns out to be easy. XD

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 11th, 2006 3:01 AM

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Mm, in the first one? Heh, I didn't get stuck in the Tarzan world, but I remember I skipped something in Wonderland...I think...so I couldn't progress for a while and I got really confused. The fact that I played a few hours into the game and couldn't play it again for almost a year due to the fundamental lack of a PS2 probably contributed to the confusion though. XD;

I do do that sometimes in games though...I overthink my missions and then forget them altogether and get really annoyed when it turns out to be easy. XD


Yeh, and when you are really stuck for a long time, the game's getting boring. And it's so freakin frustrating when you find out how easy it actually was after ? hours-_-

Kayleigh April 11th, 2006 6:19 PM

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Mm, in the first one? Heh, I didn't get stuck in the Tarzan world, but I remember I skipped something in Wonderland...I think...so I couldn't progress for a while and I got really confused.

Ugh, I always thought that Wonderland was such a boring level in the first game. XD I also wonder why the Hundred Acre Woods is a level on every single game, even CoM? Besides getting some good items, there really isn't any point to it, even though all of the characters are cute.

And there's never really been a point in any of the games where it took me forever to get past a certain level or whatever... but then again, I have the strategy guides for all of them. o_o *gets booed at* I got the Limited Edition one for KH2, and I haven't used it to cheat at all, though! I just wanted it for the pictures. <3

Naminé April 11th, 2006 8:03 PM

If you really need strategy guides (and for some games it's too tempting not to use them, or it's plain old beyond my ability), then I'll rather go to gamefaq over using money to buy an "official" strategy guide anyday. Though the official stuff looks better and got pretty pictures, its info compare to fan made guides simply pale in comparison.


Wonder when will Disneyland in Japan build a "Castle Oblivion" ride? (or simply a Kingdom Hearts one, but I'll much rather prefer it to be Castle Oblivion due to the simple direct connections with Naminé that the castle shares)

Jet Enduro April 12th, 2006 12:08 PM

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I got the Limited Edition one for KH2, and I haven't used it to cheat at all, though! I just wanted it for the pictures. <3

ENVY ENVY ENVY.

But um, going into Kingdom Hearts...is it just me, or does anyone else notice how sappy and uke Sora is with his reuinon with Riku? He hugs Kairi as if nothing has happened, but when he sees Riku he breaks down and cries D: I think I heard shonnen-ai fangirls screaming when I got to that cutscene.

Zelos April 12th, 2006 12:48 PM

*Reads over and notices things about the game...skips over them*

Anyway, I'm hoping to get this game today. My brother's going to a Target in a nearby town, and I asked him to see if they had it. Just in case they did, I gave him $50 to get it for me. XD

Chuchino April 12th, 2006 1:13 PM

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ENVY ENVY ENVY.

But um, going into Kingdom Hearts...is it just me, or does anyone else notice how sappy and uke Sora is with his reuinon with Riku? He hugs Kairi as if nothing has happened, but when he sees Riku he breaks down and cries D: I think I heard shonnen-ai fangirls screaming when I got to that cutscene.

That plus the ending with all it's sappy glory =O Sora and Riku turned all mushy sappy on us, what the heck happened?! The manly-man reunion I expected from them went flying out the window.

But still, it was rather touching to see so much emotion from Sora ^^ I rather like Sora and Riku friendshippiness.

Chikara April 12th, 2006 2:07 PM

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That plus the ending with all it's sappy glory =O Sora and Riku turned all mushy sappy on us, what the heck happened?! The manly-man reunion I expected from them went flying out the window.

But still, it was rather touching to see so much emotion from Sora ^^ I rather like Sora and Riku friendshippiness.

Yep, the ending was awsome! Though I would expect a bigger reaction from Sora when he found out about Roxas being inside him...At least I would have spazzed out or SOMETHING other than toutct my heart and go 'woah' -.-'

The S April 12th, 2006 6:22 PM

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Actually, my friend, you're in luck. Secret ending.
Is there any place that has it other than Youtube? Because, you know, streaming isn't exactly a good thing with dial-up. The Digimon Savers trailer (14 seconds) took me 20 minutes to stream.

Oh, and Lady Demoonica, I've seen it listed on many sites and in publication that that is true, so if it isn't, it's a widespread lie.

Naminé April 13th, 2006 9:42 AM

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He hugs Kairi as if nothing has happened, but when he sees Riku he breaks down and cries D: I think I heard shonnen-ai fangirls screaming when I got to that cutscene.

Hence why fanfiction.net for Kingdom Hearts is completely dominated by Yaoi if there's to be any romance in them... I want to see just ONE hetero-fanfic for Kingdom Hearts, and that can't be accomplished without scrolling at least couple of pages there.

All the girls really get ignored in Kingdom Hearts. Kairi the main heroine is basically absent in Kingdom Hearts 1, and isn't there at all for Chain of Memories. Naminé gets half of the fun in Chain of Memories and played a (in my biased opinion) rather important role in Kingdom Hearts 2, yet somehow her fanbase is small and dying... On the other hand, countless fanclubs of random yaoi Kingdom Hearts shipping out there. What's with that?

Arcanine April 13th, 2006 12:22 PM

Well a few hours ago I beat KH2. A 2 week wait was good enough for me (it was just too easy). Good ending, good plot twists, great great great story line. I love KH2, it was well worth the wait. Now I need to beat 100% of the game (or beat it in hard mode) to get the other ending. Not that the ending I got right now isn't good, it does leave the door open for a KH3 (I would have died if the ended was where Sora and Riku were stuck in that darkness place. The place where Sora got his message in a bottle from Kairi). I just hope that Square doesn't make everyone wait years and years for their next KH game (and there will be more KH games).

Jet Enduro April 13th, 2006 12:35 PM

I'd doubt that they would begin a project for KH3 on the PS2, with PS3's arrival and all :E

Naminé April 13th, 2006 12:46 PM

According to Square-Enix website, Kingdom Hearts is going to be one of their "3 main pillar" games (one of the other is Final Fantasy, and I forgot which series make up the last pillar.) I'm sure that there's going to be further additions to Kingdom Hearts. The only thing that's worth questioning is if KH3 is going to revolve around these characters again.

Arcanine April 13th, 2006 1:11 PM

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I'd doubt that they would begin a project for KH3 on the PS2, with PS3's arrival and all :E

It won't be on the PS2, a lot of games is being pushed to the PS3 (like FFXIII, I think Square said that FFXII will be the last FF game on the PS2). But, what I do know is that we will see more KH games out there, as said in the link below.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/kingdomhearts2/news.html?sid=6146677&mode=all

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According to Square-Enix website, Kingdom Hearts is going to be one of their "3 main pillar" games (one of the other is Final Fantasy, and I forgot which series make up the last pillar.) I'm sure that there's going to be further additions to Kingdom Hearts. The only thing that's worth questioning is if KH3 is going to revolve around these characters again.

Dragon Quest is their other big thing (FF is larger then DQ out of Japan, and in Japan DQ is larger then FF).
To me looks like they'd have to have ties to the ones from KH/Com/KH2. I mean how many out there would go "This is great!!!" if they found out that Sora, Riku, Kairi and the others didn't have a part in the game? They'd be killing a lot of their fanbase right there.
In some ways I like Roxas better then Sora, and sometimes I wish I had Riku and Roxas apart of my team and not going to say "Down with Donald and Goofy!!!", because they're apart of the game and it just wouldn't be right. So if Square went out and made a whole new game that has "Kingdom Hearts" on it yet the characters from the last ones not on it then it'd hurt them.
But I wouldn't mind a KH game that has Roxas and Naminé and the game be about them two. KH/2 the story is around Sora and getting back to Kairi (even more so in KH2). So why not have a KH game where Roxas and Naminé are the main ones (as well as others) in the game? And since the Blu-Ray CDs hold so much I'd like to see a dual KH game (sort of like KH: CoM, you had Sora's story line and you had Riku's). One storyline ties with Sora and the gang, and another ties with Roxas and Naminé etc (I know their parts on KH2 were short lived but I'd like to see more about them two). It'd be so great if they did something like that for the next KH game.

I hope you guys got all that. XD

Naminé April 13th, 2006 2:48 PM

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So why not have a KH game where Roxas and Naminé

I'm simply too much in a daze and happiness to read the rest of your message after that point. I apologize.

That's rather difficult though. After Naminé's "creation" she's almost immediately abducted to Castle Oblivion to carry on with Chain of Memories section of the game. Roxas's story got picked up pretty early on too by Kingdom Hearts 2 and Ansem Reports. The only room for that is how did Roxas join 13th Order, and what he (and Naminé) do before that point. There's little room for development there, I'm afraid.

As long as Naminé gets more of the spotlight, I'm happy with it.

(Just like how Roxas > Sora, Naminé > Kairi. Those two do need a little game together. It'll be so cute. Roxas x Naminé!)

Jet Enduro April 13th, 2006 3:09 PM

Squaresoft can always throw in a plot twist that seperates Roxas and Namine from Kairi and Sora. Not the first time Kingdom Hearts would pull something like that.

Predicting its plot is fairly difficult IMO :\

The S April 13th, 2006 6:31 PM

Yaoi fangirls will use anything as an excuse to get two guys to get their shwerve on together.

Lt. Surge's Raichu April 14th, 2006 3:53 AM

You guys are lucky that have this game......i have to wait until October:(

Arcanine April 14th, 2006 10:34 AM

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Squaresoft can always throw in a plot twist that seperates Roxas and Namine from Kairi and Sora. Not the first time Kingdom Hearts would pull something like that.

Predicting its plot is fairly difficult IMO :\

It's not SquareSoft anymore. XD
But yea, Square does do good on plot twists (FFX had sooooooooo many twists in it). They really could pull something off to make Roxas and Naminé split off from Sora and Kairi.


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